Yeah I definatly agree with the redhat vs debian argument. I've been looking very hard for a desktop distro, visiting many along the way...gentoo, debian, libranet, slackware, even considered using freebsd for a while. I had debian testing working pretty well, with the gnome 2.2 backports, but the gnome sound wasn't working and a few other things weren't, and it just didn't look like a coherent operating system. Yes I know if I would have spent probably like 5-10 hrs more on it, I probably could have gotten everything working, but I'm really sick of messing around trying to get things to work. So right now I've got redhat 9 on my computer, and I'm loving it so far. Sound worked out of the box, and it even set up my printer automagically using CUPS. I definatly would consider putting debian stable on a server though. I think that debian is a great distro, I just think it takes a little bit too much work for me to make it a usable desktop.
I just got it installed, and I can already tell that they've really shined it up. Granted I'm going to need to use it for a few days before I can decide if I completely like it or not, but for those saying they stay away from x.0 releases, at this point I'd say give this one a try, well especially since redhat isn't even doing point releases anymore. So far so good...
I just finished downloading it (having an on campus connection to my school's ftp where i get 2.1 MB/s, yes that's MEGABITS per second, is a wonderful thing).
I'm burning it now and I can't wait to try this out. It seems like it should be a pretty nice distro...hopefully this is the last one I put on for a while. I think i've had about 4 different distro's on my computer in the last month, its kind of getting out of control. So I'm making a promise to my self that this is it!
Ok, I'm not trying to start a flame war here, although it seem like one has already been started. I want pure facts (or at least as close as we can get). I've heard lots of talk about fbsd 5.0 vs linux 2.6 and even fbsd4.8 vs. linux 2.6. What about the current kernel? I want to know how does linux 2.4.20 plus the prememptive kernel and low latency patches compares to freebsd 4.8 on speed and desktop responsiveness. I know freebsd would kill linux as a server, but I dont care about that, I just want to run it as a desktop.
If anyone would have any benchmarks or something that would be great. If not people's own experience is good enought. I just really haven't seen any fair comparisons. I'm intrigued by this OS becuase I'm a computer science student and I want to run unix, I'm not just on the anti-microsoft train. I used to be, but after using linux for a while and having a unix class in school, i'm loving unix (well i do still hate microsoft;-) ). But I find my self using the command line to do things way more often then nautilus or anything like that. It just makes more sense to me for some reason than dealing with a mouse. Anyways sorry for the sidetrack, but i want to see what people think. Thanks.
why does someone post this for every freaking BSD post? Ok we get it already...FREEBSD IS NOT DEAD. I love linux, but I really want to give freebsd a go on an old machine I have. I'm just sick of seening these posts.
How exactly do you go about setting up your own repository. Does that mean that you could manually download something off the web, put it in your repository and then use apt to install it? That would be nice w/ things like mozilla and galeon.
Yes that was speculation on my part. Sorry for the microsoft analogy, I'm just a little bit frustrated. I'm trying to find the "dream" distro and its not working out. I've been considering gentoo, but I don't think I have time right now. I'm writing this from a debian unstable install that I had on this harddive, it's not bad, but honestly I really like the way redhat spruces everything up and makes it look like an "OS" not just a bunch of GNU software thrown together. And yes I do know how much work redhat has added to GNU projects, i know in particular they have one guy they pay to hack mozila, so they're not all bad. I know they could never become m$, but just some of their policies like the survey every 60 days now, and no mp3 support built in(before you say it, yes i know apt and freshrpms.net can solve both these problems). I'm just hoping they don't take Suse's approach and not offer iso's or something. Anyways...I guess I'm eagerly awaiting RedHat 9's release...see what all the marketing hype is about.
It just really seems like redhat is trying to become the next M$. Obviously in a few months they're going to end free updates, and now this crap. So basically now we're going to have reinstall redhat every couple of months to stay up to date, becuase they're no longer going to to update their products that are a year old, and it seems that with every release they are going to break binary compatitbility.
Please, someone point me in a sane direction for a good easy to update linux distro. I really can't decided what I want to run. I was thinking redhat 8.1, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with them much longer. I may give debian another shot, and hmmmmm FreeBSD 4.8 supposed to come out today....very tempting. I want to hear from people, what are you running, what do you like. Please help me out!
P.S. I'm not afraid of the command line and a ports system would be very nice.
I'm new to *bsd, but I've been using linux for a while now, and I'm strongly considering putting freeBSD on the new computer I'm building instead of linux. I'm a computer science student and I really want to LEARN UNIX, not just point and click my way through the latest Redhat distro. Would you recommend waiting for 4.8 or would it be safe to use 5.0? I guess I'm just wondering if anyone is using 5.0 at all now, or if that's pretty much a no no. Oh and please, don't anyone tell me to RTFHB or see the Early Adopter's Guide. The linux community's willingness to work with newbies is one of the the things that keeps me there....give me a reason to switch:-)
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This just makes the episodes of seinfeld and Sea Lab: 2021 even funnier. Damn dopplegangers.
Yeah I definatly agree with the redhat vs debian argument. I've been looking very hard for a desktop distro, visiting many along the way...gentoo, debian, libranet, slackware, even considered using freebsd for a while. I had debian testing working pretty well, with the gnome 2.2 backports, but the gnome sound wasn't working and a few other things weren't, and it just didn't look like a coherent operating system. Yes I know if I would have spent probably like 5-10 hrs more on it, I probably could have gotten everything working, but I'm really sick of messing around trying to get things to work. So right now I've got redhat 9 on my computer, and I'm loving it so far. Sound worked out of the box, and it even set up my printer automagically using CUPS. I definatly would consider putting debian stable on a server though. I think that debian is a great distro, I just think it takes a little bit too much work for me to make it a usable desktop.
I just got it installed, and I can already tell that they've really shined it up. Granted I'm going to need to use it for a few days before I can decide if I completely like it or not, but for those saying they stay away from x.0 releases, at this point I'd say give this one a try, well especially since redhat isn't even doing point releases anymore. So far so good...
ok yeah... bits, bytes, whatever....go screw ur self...at least have the balls to post logged in.
I just finished downloading it (having an on campus connection to my school's ftp where i get 2.1 MB/s, yes that's MEGABITS per second, is a wonderful thing).
I'm burning it now and I can't wait to try this out. It seems like it should be a pretty nice distro...hopefully this is the last one I put on for a while. I think i've had about 4 different distro's on my computer in the last month, its kind of getting out of control. So I'm making a promise to my self that this is it!
Ok, I'm not trying to start a flame war here, although it seem like one has already been started. I want pure facts (or at least as close as we can get). I've heard lots of talk about fbsd 5.0 vs linux 2.6 and even fbsd4.8 vs. linux 2.6. What about the current kernel? I want to know how does linux 2.4.20 plus the prememptive kernel and low latency patches compares to freebsd 4.8 on speed and desktop responsiveness. I know freebsd would kill linux as a server, but I dont care about that, I just want to run it as a desktop.
If anyone would have any benchmarks or something that would be great. If not people's own experience is good enought. I just really haven't seen any fair comparisons. I'm intrigued by this OS becuase I'm a computer science student and I want to run unix, I'm not just on the anti-microsoft train. I used to be, but after using linux for a while and having a unix class in school, i'm loving unix (well i do still hate microsoft;-) ). But I find my self using the command line to do things way more often then nautilus or anything like that. It just makes more sense to me for some reason than dealing with a mouse. Anyways sorry for the sidetrack, but i want to see what people think. Thanks.
why does someone post this for every freaking BSD post? Ok we get it already...FREEBSD IS NOT DEAD. I love linux, but I really want to give freebsd a go on an old machine I have. I'm just sick of seening these posts.
I don't know Lloyd...the French are assholes
How exactly do you go about setting up your own repository. Does that mean that you could manually download something off the web, put it in your repository and then use apt to install it? That would be nice w/ things like mozilla and galeon.
Yes that was speculation on my part. Sorry for the microsoft analogy, I'm just a little bit frustrated. I'm trying to find the "dream" distro and its not working out. I've been considering gentoo, but I don't think I have time right now. I'm writing this from a debian unstable install that I had on this harddive, it's not bad, but honestly I really like the way redhat spruces everything up and makes it look like an "OS" not just a bunch of GNU software thrown together. And yes I do know how much work redhat has added to GNU projects, i know in particular they have one guy they pay to hack mozila, so they're not all bad. I know they could never become m$, but just some of their policies like the survey every 60 days now, and no mp3 support built in(before you say it, yes i know apt and freshrpms.net can solve both these problems). I'm just hoping they don't take Suse's approach and not offer iso's or something. Anyways...I guess I'm eagerly awaiting RedHat 9's release...see what all the marketing hype is about.
It just really seems like redhat is trying to become the next M$. Obviously in a few months they're going to end free updates, and now this crap. So basically now we're going to have reinstall redhat every couple of months to stay up to date, becuase they're no longer going to to update their products that are a year old, and it seems that with every release they are going to break binary compatitbility. Please, someone point me in a sane direction for a good easy to update linux distro. I really can't decided what I want to run. I was thinking redhat 8.1, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with them much longer. I may give debian another shot, and hmmmmm FreeBSD 4.8 supposed to come out today....very tempting. I want to hear from people, what are you running, what do you like. Please help me out! P.S. I'm not afraid of the command line and a ports system would be very nice.
I'm new to *bsd, but I've been using linux for a while now, and I'm strongly considering putting freeBSD on the new computer I'm building instead of linux. I'm a computer science student and I really want to LEARN UNIX, not just point and click my way through the latest Redhat distro. Would you recommend waiting for 4.8 or would it be safe to use 5.0? I guess I'm just wondering if anyone is using 5.0 at all now, or if that's pretty much a no no. Oh and please, don't anyone tell me to RTFHB or see the Early Adopter's Guide. The linux community's willingness to work with newbies is one of the the things that keeps me there....give me a reason to switch :-)