hopefully this will give some of the trolls something else to do.
but, to remain on topic, it doesnt even seem much of a question of whether or not the show will succeed, its more of the same question every other "Reality Show" faces:
If they want to put a barrier between me and their product, I won't waste my time or money on it.
not to mention the fact that alot of their product SUCKS. media hyped, filled with innuendos and subliminal bullshit to make people buy crap they dont need and behave like robots... sorry, that one hit a nerve.
This means we won't be able to trust the current generation of P2P networks for authentic news
like someone said before on this board, its a crapshoot and always has been. i hate it when i try to find a decent rip of "revolutions" to stream and half way through the motherfucker some stupid ass movie like "sea biscuit" comes on.
it just pisses me off because they arent paying for my bandwidth, i am, and this kind of bogus activity soaking up electricity should be punishable with the same sentencing as illegal pirating itself.
people keep asking about whether or not these "inventors" will sue various organizations for infringement. the article seems very ambiguous about their intentions, but it seems logical that they will attempt lawsuits, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the patent to begin with.
i just want to say that i am particularly fond of rare unreleased versions of songs that you simply cannot buy anywhere - that is to say i cant complain about what they are doing except to say that bandwidth is expensive and id rather be able to find what i like in an environment free of punitive repercussions by vengeful record labels. i dont see anything wrong with downloading these files because its my belief that the artists wouldn't perform if they didn't want the world to hear it - they would just package up canned recordings and never set foot on stage.
you wont find me having to wade through gobs and gobs of b.s. files because all i want to hear is "ratm - killing in the name of - live in amsterdam with tool and NiN.mp3" and the like. the nsync cucoo files wont affect me not only because the word "nsync" will never make the search box on my copy of gnutella, but because if it did it would be in the context of a much more affinitive and personal search.
so have at it, pricks. send your dummy files all day long, but start your own damn p2p to do it on. IMHO the *AA's of the world are on the wrong track so to speak. look at MS and all the problems they have with pissed off worm authors gifted enough to bring down power grids. once they get bored with trashing an operating system thats allready crippled out of the box, they might turn towards more entertaining endeavors.
ok so maybe im the kind of person the laws are out to get, but i can say that i own alot of CD's and a large percentage of the songs in my rare and live collections have a canned counterpart somewhere in here haha...
the ALU in my toyota dumps maybe a meg of cmos. at most, out of the modern import, you might have 50 signals to deal with. a pc can have thousands. put a laptop in the console and tell me exactly what the difference is between burning gas and number crunching. malleable, tangible, an engine can be sculpted; what it runs on is much more of a challenge...
glad you came around. the use of snort and perl, especially in combination with iptables, etc. can make something pretty hard to break if its done right. the great thing about the combination of the three is the flexibility allowed; the different ways to accomplish the same effect on traffic are literally endless, so you see where a flooded job market is still starved for real talent.
one of the things i thought of, that nobody has even brought up that i could find on this post, is the fact that this "Billy Goat" only benefits microsoft in the long run. why should they change now when they can let big ass IBM fork out the funding for this kind of R&D?
after all, hasn't an entire industry spawned in the wake of microsofts neglegence? and to what avail? microsoft needs to either be held accountable or they need to release source code. these are the only 2 ways, and mark the words, one day it will come to that.
This article is just scary. Not that I am suprised. Not that we haven't been informed. Not that there isn't enough knowledge at our fingertips to inform ourselves... It's the fact that nothing is done about any of it.
"It?", you ask? The world is one big company. What contribution the average man makes to its net profit is but a speck of dust on an infinite beach. Where are those people who can and do make differences? Why do most people feel so helpless? What are we going to do in the long run? Problems of this nature only plague humanity while we strive to treat the symptom but not the cause.
Speaking of problems... WHY ADD TO MINE with your petty grudge bearing comments. At least a few people with considerable intelligence have told me to stop bothering with this site. Maybe I'll start my own, ZenDot.org or something. Suggestions on that are NOT welcome.
Ok, I am 0 for 0 this week but I have the satisfaction of knowing that I can recommend to those who would deserve so such a service as MCI or Microsoft, Verizon, Cingular, Phillip Morris, Anhueser Busch, OPEC, NATO, AT and TEE, SCO, the RIAA, the MPAA, the TWCable, the Yahoo!s... geez just shoot me, im the guy wearing the "no i will not fix your computer" shirt...
I like that about Europe. It seems like the people there really have a voice. If they can pull this one off, I'm on the next boat.
If I tried to organize something like that here, depending on who I was, I might either a) be taken into custody and labeled a terrorist, b) be taken into a custody and labeled a lunatic, or c) be taken into custody and shot in the back of the head.
Microsoft has the bucks to pay big minds just to think up shit like how to avoid this. I'd be willing to bet that those few heads that get paid by Microsoft to sit around and do just that have a combined higher IQ than the entire British Parlaiment.
A crappy post, I gotta admit, but I'm tired and this article is cool. FreeBSD and Mozilla here too...
Now to your point about how people can't learn to use KDE or GNOME...
If they can't, THEY should be shot.
It would be more of a challenge than when Windows 95 came out -everything all new- the crazy little mouse thingy that did all new shit; except KDE is just great and way better and it kicks ass, even though I prefer Blackbox and hotkeys. KDE and GNOME have 1000's of toys and ways to make it work that blow away windows GUI forever and ever.
KDE is way better than XP interface;P. Even my mom likes it, and she can barely use an imac.
They make those "Obscure X-11 Window Managers For Dummies" books. I think. Well they should if they don't.
The "oh no it will cost a bazillion to train everyone" argument is crap. Full desktop environment is pretty mature now. Look at OSX, just look at it. Who can complain?
Anyway, more power to them. I know one thing is for sure, I'd hate to see the number that the US governement spends on Windows. Imagine all the hungry kids it could have fed. I wonder how that makes Microsoft feel. Probably very fat. If the American public knew about it all I'm sure we'd see bumber stickers like "God Bless America AND Linux", but thats about as far as the support would really go. What makes us tick makes us tick. If our own country is so full of stupid people who can't discern a hamburger from some broccoli when it comes to the prospect of a quadruple bypass, lettem rot I say.
The only argument now is about how incompatable Windows 2003 is going to be with our b0x3n. Only this time, we have a little hindsight to reckon with before we let the chance to make an early difference slip through our hands.
ok, so the dialogue was almost "offtopic", if you have brain density similar to that of petrified oak. whoever got pissed at it must not have understood the first half... geez. what are we up against here...
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers"
I guess We are all doomed to exticntion! After reading what would follow through, this is all a simple matter of engineering. And financial support. It seems all too often they are one in the same. The technology only becomes cheap when someone else stumbles upon something more simplistic in order to reach a different goal.
Yota: "Much to learn, have you, Count DuKu."
DuKu: "Money talks, bullshit walks."
Yota: "Go ahead, punk, make my day."
DuKu: "Don't make me bitch slap you, ho."
Yota: "Fuck it, I heard that drinking Corona can get you laid on a beach in Mexico."
With the recent purchase of 140k windows boxen (servers too;D) for use by Uncle Scam... oh well, I don't know what I'm saying... its just funny to think that Microsoft could possibly adhere to a policy like this when a seriously compromised Windows machine will need formatting, reinstalling, or at least rebooting before it can be (for lack of a better word) safely used again.
Slashdot Mirror
maybe this will help:
it takes light from the sun about 8 minutes to reach our planet.
this means that the sun could have blown up 7 minutes ago, but it will still appear normal for about another minute or so.
then you will be toast.
regards,
sam
100k nodes doesnt mean anything if half of them were part of the original DARPA project.
i wont even blink until they actually find a way to build the eludium-Q-36 explosive space modulator.
Microsoft is probably pushing for the data contract, so the fate of the world will rest in his hands once and for all.
Yes I agree.
i just want funding to support an operation to keep the sight offline. i find it offensive.
good one.
hopefully this will give some of the trolls something else to do.
but, to remain on topic, it doesnt even seem much of a question of whether or not the show will succeed, its more of the same question every other "Reality Show" faces:
who REALLY gives a shit?
so i get a "0". what for? saying bad words? go tell on me lol.
If they want to put a barrier between me and their product, I won't waste my time or money on it.
not to mention the fact that alot of their product SUCKS. media hyped, filled with innuendos and subliminal bullshit to make people buy crap they dont need and behave like robots... sorry, that one hit a nerve.
This means we won't be able to trust the current generation of P2P networks for authentic news
like someone said before on this board, its a crapshoot and always has been. i hate it when i try to find a decent rip of "revolutions" to stream and half way through the motherfucker some stupid ass movie like "sea biscuit" comes on.
it just pisses me off because they arent paying for my bandwidth, i am, and this kind of bogus activity soaking up electricity should be punishable with the same sentencing as illegal pirating itself.
people keep asking about whether or not these "inventors" will sue various organizations for infringement. the article seems very ambiguous about their intentions, but it seems logical that they will attempt lawsuits, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the patent to begin with.
i just want to say that i am particularly fond of rare unreleased versions of songs that you simply cannot buy anywhere - that is to say i cant complain about what they are doing except to say that bandwidth is expensive and id rather be able to find what i like in an environment free of punitive repercussions by vengeful record labels. i dont see anything wrong with downloading these files because its my belief that the artists wouldn't perform if they didn't want the world to hear it - they would just package up canned recordings and never set foot on stage.
you wont find me having to wade through gobs and gobs of b.s. files because all i want to hear is "ratm - killing in the name of - live in amsterdam with tool and NiN.mp3" and the like. the nsync cucoo files wont affect me not only because the word "nsync" will never make the search box on my copy of gnutella, but because if it did it would be in the context of a much more affinitive and personal search.
so have at it, pricks. send your dummy files all day long, but start your own damn p2p to do it on. IMHO the *AA's of the world are on the wrong track so to speak. look at MS and all the problems they have with pissed off worm authors gifted enough to bring down power grids. once they get bored with trashing an operating system thats allready crippled out of the box, they might turn towards more entertaining endeavors.
ok so maybe im the kind of person the laws are out to get, but i can say that i own alot of CD's and a large percentage of the songs in my rare and live collections have a canned counterpart somewhere in here haha...
really. apples and oranges...
the ALU in my toyota dumps maybe a meg of cmos. at most, out of the modern import, you might have 50 signals to deal with. a pc can have thousands. put a laptop in the console and tell me exactly what the difference is between burning gas and number crunching. malleable, tangible, an engine can be sculpted; what it runs on is much more of a challenge...
they can export the manufacturing of parts and source code, but they cant export the jobs installing and configuring it here yet.
nuts, bolts, and cables. gotta love 'em.
I bet Bill Gates is PISSED.
glad you came around. the use of snort and perl, especially in combination with iptables, etc. can make something pretty hard to break if its done right. the great thing about the combination of the three is the flexibility allowed; the different ways to accomplish the same effect on traffic are literally endless, so you see where a flooded job market is still starved for real talent.
one of the things i thought of, that nobody has even brought up that i could find on this post, is the fact that this "Billy Goat" only benefits microsoft in the long run. why should they change now when they can let big ass IBM fork out the funding for this kind of R&D?
after all, hasn't an entire industry spawned in the wake of microsofts neglegence? and to what avail? microsoft needs to either be held accountable or they need to release source code. these are the only 2 ways, and mark the words, one day it will come to that.
This article is just scary. Not that I am suprised. Not that we haven't been informed. Not that there isn't enough knowledge at our fingertips to inform ourselves... It's the fact that nothing is done about any of it.
"It?", you ask? The world is one big company. What contribution the average man makes to its net profit is but a speck of dust on an infinite beach. Where are those people who can and do make differences? Why do most people feel so helpless? What are we going to do in the long run? Problems of this nature only plague humanity while we strive to treat the symptom but not the cause.
Speaking of problems... WHY ADD TO MINE with your petty grudge bearing comments. At least a few people with considerable intelligence have told me to stop bothering with this site. Maybe I'll start my own, ZenDot.org or something. Suggestions on that are NOT welcome.
Ok, I am 0 for 0 this week but I have the satisfaction of knowing that I can recommend to those who would deserve so such a service as MCI or Microsoft, Verizon, Cingular, Phillip Morris, Anhueser Busch, OPEC, NATO, AT and TEE, SCO, the RIAA, the MPAA, the TWCable, the Yahoo!s... geez just shoot me, im the guy wearing the "no i will not fix your computer" shirt...
no shit man. i like slashdot and i dont want a -1 on here, but i have one question... ARE THEY FUCKING BLIND? we are not alone...
simple mistake. the sentiment still remains though. it was late, get over it.
I like that about Europe. It seems like the people there really have a voice. If they can pull this one off, I'm on the next boat.
;P. Even my mom likes it, and she can barely use an imac.
If I tried to organize something like that here, depending on who I was, I might either a) be taken into custody and labeled a terrorist, b) be taken into a custody and labeled a lunatic, or c) be taken into custody and shot in the back of the head.
Microsoft has the bucks to pay big minds just to think up shit like how to avoid this. I'd be willing to bet that those few heads that get paid by Microsoft to sit around and do just that have a combined higher IQ than the entire British Parlaiment.
A crappy post, I gotta admit, but I'm tired and this article is cool. FreeBSD and Mozilla here too...
Now to your point about how people can't learn to use KDE or GNOME...
If they can't, THEY should be shot.
It would be more of a challenge than when Windows 95 came out -everything all new- the crazy little mouse thingy that did all new shit; except KDE is just great and way better and it kicks ass, even though I prefer Blackbox and hotkeys. KDE and GNOME have 1000's of toys and ways to make it work that blow away windows GUI forever and ever.
KDE is way better than XP interface
They make those "Obscure X-11 Window Managers For Dummies" books. I think. Well they should if they don't.
The "oh no it will cost a bazillion to train everyone" argument is crap. Full desktop environment is pretty mature now. Look at OSX, just look at it. Who can complain?
Anyway, more power to them. I know one thing is for sure, I'd hate to see the number that the US governement spends on Windows. Imagine all the hungry kids it could have fed. I wonder how that makes Microsoft feel. Probably very fat. If the American public knew about it all I'm sure we'd see bumber stickers like "God Bless America AND Linux", but thats about as far as the support would really go. What makes us tick makes us tick. If our own country is so full of stupid people who can't discern a hamburger from some broccoli when it comes to the prospect of a quadruple bypass, lettem rot I say.
The only argument now is about how incompatable Windows 2003 is going to be with our b0x3n. Only this time, we have a little hindsight to reckon with before we let the chance to make an early difference slip through our hands.
ok, so the dialogue was almost "offtopic", if you have brain density similar to that of petrified oak. whoever got pissed at it must not have understood the first half... geez. what are we up against here...
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers"
all semblances to real people are purley coincedental.
I guess We are all doomed to exticntion! After reading what would follow through, this is all a simple matter of engineering. And financial support. It seems all too often they are one in the same. The technology only becomes cheap when someone else stumbles upon something more simplistic in order to reach a different goal.
Yota: "Much to learn, have you, Count DuKu."
DuKu: "Money talks, bullshit walks."
Yota: "Go ahead, punk, make my day."
DuKu: "Don't make me bitch slap you, ho."
Yota: "Fuck it, I heard that drinking Corona can get you laid on a beach in Mexico."
DuKu: "No shit?"
Yota: "Fuckin A d00d. I got the first round!"
DuKu: "Yeah! Screw this intergalactic bullshit!"
Yota: "Live long and prosper!"
Duku: "D00d, your drunk..."
Haha. Mod this up...
With the recent purchase of 140k windows boxen (servers too ;D) for use by Uncle Scam... oh well, I don't know what I'm saying... its just funny to think that Microsoft could possibly adhere to a policy like this when a seriously compromised Windows machine will need formatting, reinstalling, or at least rebooting before it can be (for lack of a better word) safely used again.
I guess Preparation H wouldn't place well in the middle of an episode of Barney.