You can really insert any sort brand name here because the fact that this complaint deals with Apple and it's products is highly irrelevant.
The real problem can be summed us as following:
Company x does business in Norway and has to comply with Norwegian laws. The consumer law states that once a product is sold, you can not alter the terms under which the product was sold.
There. That is the problem in a nutshell.
Apple comes under fire in this scenario because song x was sold on the music store and when you bought it you were informed at you could burn it x many times, share it out in iTunes to for people to listen to etc.
Apple then retroactively (and without telling anyone to boot) changes the terms (the contract) and this change then affects a product that was already purchased under a different pretense.
Question: What is the point of Broadcast TV? Answer: To show quality shows that everyone can enjoy.
errrrrr
WRONG
An affiliate broadcast TV station has one goal: To create revenue for the stockholders. This is done through advertising. Lost/Cosby show/Nighstalker/Full house whatever the show is has one purpose: Attract viewers so they can watch more advertising.
To think that consumers can get content from broadcast TV without commercials and advertising will for sure cause a stirr when the reason affiliates exist is to make money.
The specs show that they'll be triband GSM phones.
Verizon is not GSM. Ofcourse, the phones can change or they make a Verizon version, but *those* specs make the incompatible with Verizon
Supreme Court prob. won't touch this one for two reasons:
1. This decision was not based on new laws. They only applied the ruling against existing laws.
2. The Supreme Court only deals with Constitutional cases. I fail to see how a copyright case has anything to do with our consitution.
Heck yeah! I'll take a somewhat manageable DRM any day of the week instead of some auto-loaded DRM crap that I can't control (or much-less know about) myself.
you are out of control
A quick look at GSM world shows that both ATT Wireless and Cingular is on the GSM 1900 network. All GSM phones support the 1900 band, so your phone works on both networks.
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.sht ml
right.....
Xbox live is the reason why EASports will not develop more games for Xbox. MS wanted to control all online content and gameply has to go through their servers. EASports said Fsck that and buh-bye Xbox.
>The US is currently supporting several Saddam-alike dictators in the region. The US is allied with Turkey (!)
And which dictators would that be?
Turkey is the only muslim country with a truly democraticly elected secular government. They have come to understand the importance of NOT mixing religion with politics. Yes, no country is flawless, and the Turks' defiant stance on Kurdish rights is less than impressive. But don't make the mistake of incuding Turkey in your rant and labeling a european democracy a dictatorship
Number Portability is incredibly useful for GSM users. Since all we have to do is switch SIM cards from one carrier to another, we NEVER have to worry about getting new phones and paying extra for that.
I'm euro, but has lived in Texas since 1995 and Tmobile/Voicestream has been my provider forever. They have NEVER blinked when I say I need my new phone unlocked, because they know that keeping customers happy will benefit them in the long run. Right now, with my unlocked Sony Ericsson t610, I can fly to Norway, Sweden, Germany and use my local SIM cards there and pay local rates instead of $2/minute while roaming.
GSM will truly take off here too, and good times for all of us. My wet dream would be if Cingular, T-mobile and AT&T wireless worked together on ONE kick ass nationwide GSM network, and competed on prices, customer service, callings plans and phones, instead of pissing customers off with shitty networks and dropped calls.
-out
That's because Sprint uses CDMA technology, and AT&T, T-Mobile, Cingular et.al uses GSM. Since GSM uses chip technology, number portability will be ultra easy since all your have to do is get another SIM card from your new carrier and stick it in your unlocked phone. Done deal.
I think Verizon and Sprint will get hurt since getting on their network would require getting a new phone. I can't think of a dual cdma/gsm phone on the market yet.
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yep. Check your contract.
You can really insert any sort brand name here because the fact that this complaint deals with Apple and it's products is highly irrelevant. The real problem can be summed us as following: Company x does business in Norway and has to comply with Norwegian laws. The consumer law states that once a product is sold, you can not alter the terms under which the product was sold. There. That is the problem in a nutshell. Apple comes under fire in this scenario because song x was sold on the music store and when you bought it you were informed at you could burn it x many times, share it out in iTunes to for people to listen to etc. Apple then retroactively (and without telling anyone to boot) changes the terms (the contract) and this change then affects a product that was already purchased under a different pretense.
Question: What is the point of Broadcast TV?
Answer: To show quality shows that everyone can enjoy.
errrrrr
WRONG
An affiliate broadcast TV station has one goal: To create revenue for the stockholders. This is done through advertising. Lost/Cosby show/Nighstalker/Full house whatever the show is has one purpose: Attract viewers so they can watch more advertising.
To think that consumers can get content from broadcast TV without commercials and advertising will for sure cause a stirr when the reason affiliates exist is to make money.
XM and Sirius are both publicly traded companies. They are most definitely not privately held companies.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SIRI&d=t/
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=XMSR&d=t/
Uhm...does that not look like Rick Moranis in Spaceballs?? Weird
This post and the immediate parent are two of the best posts I have read on Slashdot. Ever. Great posts.
The specs show that they'll be triband GSM phones. Verizon is not GSM. Ofcourse, the phones can change or they make a Verizon version, but *those* specs make the incompatible with Verizon
It means Wired is only one lawsuit away from RIAA...like they know what type of license it is, They know one thing: $$$
Supreme Court prob. won't touch this one for two reasons: 1. This decision was not based on new laws. They only applied the ruling against existing laws. 2. The Supreme Court only deals with Constitutional cases. I fail to see how a copyright case has anything to do with our consitution.
Heck yeah! I'll take a somewhat manageable DRM any day of the week instead of some auto-loaded DRM crap that I can't control (or much-less know about) myself.
hehe, do what I did...buy it on iTunes and don't worry about it ;)
you are out of control A quick look at GSM world shows that both ATT Wireless and Cingular is on the GSM 1900 network. All GSM phones support the 1900 band, so your phone works on both networks. http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.sht ml
For GSM phones the procedure would be: 1. Give the new owner your SIM card 2. change billing info on said SIM card.
Could Return of the King be the first fantacy movie to win an Oscar?
right..... Xbox live is the reason why EASports will not develop more games for Xbox. MS wanted to control all online content and gameply has to go through their servers. EASports said Fsck that and buh-bye Xbox.
>The US is currently supporting several Saddam-alike dictators in the region. The US is allied with Turkey (!)
And which dictators would that be?
Turkey is the only muslim country with a truly democraticly elected secular government. They have come to understand the importance of NOT mixing religion with politics. Yes, no country is flawless, and the Turks' defiant stance on Kurdish rights is less than impressive. But don't make the mistake of incuding Turkey in your rant and labeling a european democracy a dictatorship
Number Portability is incredibly useful for GSM users. Since all we have to do is switch SIM cards from one carrier to another, we NEVER have to worry about getting new phones and paying extra for that. I'm euro, but has lived in Texas since 1995 and Tmobile/Voicestream has been my provider forever. They have NEVER blinked when I say I need my new phone unlocked, because they know that keeping customers happy will benefit them in the long run. Right now, with my unlocked Sony Ericsson t610, I can fly to Norway, Sweden, Germany and use my local SIM cards there and pay local rates instead of $2/minute while roaming. GSM will truly take off here too, and good times for all of us. My wet dream would be if Cingular, T-mobile and AT&T wireless worked together on ONE kick ass nationwide GSM network, and competed on prices, customer service, callings plans and phones, instead of pissing customers off with shitty networks and dropped calls. -out
That's because Sprint uses CDMA technology, and AT&T, T-Mobile, Cingular et.al uses GSM. Since GSM uses chip technology, number portability will be ultra easy since all your have to do is get another SIM card from your new carrier and stick it in your unlocked phone. Done deal. I think Verizon and Sprint will get hurt since getting on their network would require getting a new phone. I can't think of a dual cdma/gsm phone on the market yet.