If CD's are infact going the way of vinyl... that means we've got 20+ more years of cd's... I still buy vinyl on occasion and turntables are still easy to find.
SACD is not inherently more expensive than CD. DVD-A and SACD also offer features above and beyond what is on an MP3 or CD (high quality sound, multi-channel music, music videos, etc). The only reason that SACD and DVD-A are expensive now, is that they are new. If they take off they soon will be the same price as a CD (not that they aren't over priced). I remember paying $600 for my first DVD player... but no one bought DVD players because they were more expensive than VHS and that format died didn't it.
Even the FBI needs a warrant to search or bug anything and that sure sounds like bugging to me. So who died and made the RIAA a government agency more powerful than the FBI? Why does the FBI need a warrant to bug the Mafia's telephones but these guys are:
You're missing a fundamental difference. If you were transfereing these files to friends over a VPN, or a secure FTP server, or some other secure method they would need a warrant. In the case of P2P you're broadcasting what you own to the whole world. As soon as you sign on to the public network, you've lost all expectation of privacy. The FBI needs a warrant to tap your phone or your house, however they don't need a warrant to follow you around and listen to what you say.
There are two parts, one is the part that converts the fuel into electricity. It's probably about the same size and shape of your regular laptop battery. The second part is the fuel tank. That's what is the size of the bic. That's the part that you replace. The only question is whether the fuel tanks are disposable, recyclable, or refillable. I would guess you can recylce them and they are sold cheap, just a few bucks.
LP's have a lot of media for them. And the players are getting harder and harder to find.
So, about 25 years after cd is introduced it's getting harder to find a turntable. That's hardly a suprise. But I can still buy one, and I can still buy new media. It wouldn't suprise me that in 25 years new players might not all play cd's, but do you really think I won't be able to buy a CD player?
VCR's are on the decline as well. CD's will be replace by new technology. Just like everything else.
I agree CD's will eventually be replaced. Although if they're replaced by another 5" disc (SACD, DVD-A), I don't think the players will stop supporting them any time soon. That's not the arguement I was responding too however. The parent stated that all new players could stop supporting red book cd. My response was that there is no way that is going to happen in the near future.
No, he's not. He's saying it's perfectly possible that the government will set a cut off date, after which point new CD players are required to support some sort of DRM.
Bullshit. He's saying new players will not play all the media that is already out there. And people will stop making red book players. This may happen over the next 20 or 30 years, but not anytime soon. I can still very easily go buy a VHS tape or recorder. I can buy SVHS tapes and recorders. I can still buy beta tapes pretty easily. I can buy a turntable and LP's.
Well then, you don't watch TV... Remember? Those analog devices that are legally required to quit working in a few years?
Once again, bullshit. Part of the law says that when analog broadcasting stops, devices will be made available at low cost that allow analog TV's to pick up digital broadcasts. If you have cable, it will probably be built in to your cable box.
If he had said red book cd's are going to slowly be phased out, I could buy it. But he said new players were going to purposely be unable to play red book cd's. That's not going to happen. Too many people have too many cd's right now. The hardware manufacturers aren't going to stop building devices unless they are forced.
I'm pretty sure that they are sending all the channels at one time. It's easy to tell which channels are compressed more than other (VH1 classic, and MTV Hits are unwatchable). If they were only sending on channel at a time, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in the quality of the channels. It would also be a true on demand system.
I believe the delay when switching channels is caused by the cable box switching streams and starting to decode the new mpeg stream.
I probably have watched every movie I own at least 3 or 4 times. That barely makes the cost of buying them worthwile. However, I have also loaned each movie to a friend or family memeber on average 3 or 4 times. You may think it doesn't help me to do that. I'm saving them the rental cost, not myself. But then, they're willing to loan me their movies which I may want to see.
Of course I have a few movies that I've watched many more than 3 or 4 times... bottle rocket, rushmore, the big lebowski...
Your two examples are completly irrelevant. You're saying that the goverment is going to decide overnight that no new CD players can be manufactured. Leaving 100's of millions of CD's that become worthless pieces of plastic.
I can't think of an example in US history where the goverment has passed legislation that stopped hundreds of millions of devices from working.
I do have a problem with in-demand. Maybe I'm not the average user but I much prefer the video store. My problems are as followed:
The selection sucks. If it wasn't a recent blockbuster I'm not going to get to see it on PPV. Some days I might want to see the matrix. But other days I'd like to see something like spellbound.
The quality sucks. They compress the shit out of all my channels on comcast. It's only gotten worse since they added more HD content. The DVD simply looks better.
Only a few of the movies are actually in OAR. I will not watch any movie that has had it's aspect ratio changed. It makes me sick to do so. Usually only those movies that are in widescreen are broadcast in DD5.1. So, a small list gets even smaller
Never in a million years will standard red book cd players dissapear. There is too much media out there. There may be new players that don't play red book, but the hardware companies will not stop selling regular cd players. The only way to make them stop would be to legislate them as illegal. And the populace just wouldn't stand for that.
When A licenses to B, B is the customer, A is the supplier. More importantly, however, A's success is dependant on the success of the game.
I think you should reverse this. Once A has licensed the character (for a fee), the success of the game is not as important to them. All the money is free money, and they can continue to license the charachter to C, D, and E. Although a successful game will make future games easier.
When A hires B, it's the other way around. A doesn't really care about the sales of the game, because it [the royalty payments] is basically free money to them. B is now dependant on the game's success.
Again, backwards. When A hires B to do the programming A cares about the sales of the game because that's where their money is to be made. B would like success too (it helps make them look better), but regardless B has still been paid.
For someone like me it would be a godsend. We have three cats. To keep the house relatively hair free we need to vacum just about daily. If we had this thing, we could probably just do the couches and stairs once a week and do one big cleaning of the whole house on weekends.
You're thinking of starwars. in star trek they always try to explain stuff... whether it's dilithium, or tachyon, or neutrinos, they always have some techno babble to explain everything.
I always thought that made it more believable. Things rarely just ignite into fireballs on impact, unless of course it's hollywood. I think you may just have gotten so used to seeing it, it's assumed to be true.
...And they never said that a giant spider would be able to lift a car. But they did show some interesting science about genetically enhancing people to be stronger, and showed the results they've had in mice. They also had an interesting demonstration of the strength of spider silk.
Actually it's the reverse. Distributing MP3's without a copyright is a crime. Downloading is only a crime if you know that the source did not have the right to distribute. It can be argued that it's common knowledge no one on Kazza has that right, but it's still a tougher arguement to make than the person sharing files.
Actually what you rent at the video store is private. There is a law to say as such. This was a big deal in Oklahoma when the police got the list of names of everyone who had tin drum rented.
Ask and you shall recieve:
A Duke University study found... "The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life." ( The costs of processing murder cases in North Carolina / Philip J. Cook, Donna B. Slawson ; with the assistance of Lori A. Gries. [Durham, NC] : Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy, Duke University, 1993.)
"The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level." (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).
"A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 )
"Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution."
(Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).
"Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000."
(The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6)
Figures from the General Accounting Office are close to these results. Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.
(GOA report and testimony FY-97 GGD-97-15 )
That didn't take more than 5 minutes on google.
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If CD's are infact going the way of vinyl... that means we've got 20+ more years of cd's... I still buy vinyl on occasion and turntables are still easy to find.
SACD is not inherently more expensive than CD. DVD-A and SACD also offer features above and beyond what is on an MP3 or CD (high quality sound, multi-channel music, music videos, etc). The only reason that SACD and DVD-A are expensive now, is that they are new. If they take off they soon will be the same price as a CD (not that they aren't over priced). I remember paying $600 for my first DVD player... but no one bought DVD players because they were more expensive than VHS and that format died didn't it.
Even the FBI needs a warrant to search or bug anything and that sure sounds like bugging to me. So who died and made the RIAA a government agency more powerful than the FBI? Why does the FBI need a warrant to bug the Mafia's telephones but these guys are:
You're missing a fundamental difference. If you were transfereing these files to friends over a VPN, or a secure FTP server, or some other secure method they would need a warrant. In the case of P2P you're broadcasting what you own to the whole world. As soon as you sign on to the public network, you've lost all expectation of privacy. The FBI needs a warrant to tap your phone or your house, however they don't need a warrant to follow you around and listen to what you say.
There are two parts, one is the part that converts the fuel into electricity. It's probably about the same size and shape of your regular laptop battery. The second part is the fuel tank. That's what is the size of the bic. That's the part that you replace. The only question is whether the fuel tanks are disposable, recyclable, or refillable. I would guess you can recylce them and they are sold cheap, just a few bucks.
LP's have a lot of media for them. And the players are getting harder and harder to find.
So, about 25 years after cd is introduced it's getting harder to find a turntable. That's hardly a suprise. But I can still buy one, and I can still buy new media. It wouldn't suprise me that in 25 years new players might not all play cd's, but do you really think I won't be able to buy a CD player?
VCR's are on the decline as well. CD's will be replace by new technology. Just like everything else.
I agree CD's will eventually be replaced. Although if they're replaced by another 5" disc (SACD, DVD-A), I don't think the players will stop supporting them any time soon. That's not the arguement I was responding too however. The parent stated that all new players could stop supporting red book cd. My response was that there is no way that is going to happen in the near future.
No, he's not. He's saying it's perfectly possible that the government will set a cut off date, after which point new CD players are required to support some sort of DRM.
Bullshit. He's saying new players will not play all the media that is already out there. And people will stop making red book players. This may happen over the next 20 or 30 years, but not anytime soon. I can still very easily go buy a VHS tape or recorder. I can buy SVHS tapes and recorders. I can still buy beta tapes pretty easily. I can buy a turntable and LP's.
Well then, you don't watch TV... Remember? Those analog devices that are legally required to quit working in a few years?
Once again, bullshit. Part of the law says that when analog broadcasting stops, devices will be made available at low cost that allow analog TV's to pick up digital broadcasts. If you have cable, it will probably be built in to your cable box.
If he had said red book cd's are going to slowly be phased out, I could buy it. But he said new players were going to purposely be unable to play red book cd's. That's not going to happen. Too many people have too many cd's right now. The hardware manufacturers aren't going to stop building devices unless they are forced.
I'm pretty sure that they are sending all the channels at one time. It's easy to tell which channels are compressed more than other (VH1 classic, and MTV Hits are unwatchable). If they were only sending on channel at a time, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in the quality of the channels. It would also be a true on demand system.
I believe the delay when switching channels is caused by the cable box switching streams and starting to decode the new mpeg stream.
I don't know that CD is the last good audio format. I've been pretty impressed by what I've heard of DVD-A and SACD.
don't forget the flying cars! I'm still waiting on my flying car!
I probably have watched every movie I own at least 3 or 4 times. That barely makes the cost of buying them worthwile. However, I have also loaned each movie to a friend or family memeber on average 3 or 4 times. You may think it doesn't help me to do that. I'm saving them the rental cost, not myself. But then, they're willing to loan me their movies which I may want to see.
Of course I have a few movies that I've watched many more than 3 or 4 times... bottle rocket, rushmore, the big lebowski...
Your two examples are completly irrelevant. You're saying that the goverment is going to decide overnight that no new CD players can be manufactured. Leaving 100's of millions of CD's that become worthless pieces of plastic.
I can't think of an example in US history where the goverment has passed legislation that stopped hundreds of millions of devices from working.
Never in a million years will standard red book cd players dissapear. There is too much media out there. There may be new players that don't play red book, but the hardware companies will not stop selling regular cd players. The only way to make them stop would be to legislate them as illegal. And the populace just wouldn't stand for that.
Also, all they are trying to build is a vehicle that can cary 3 people up a few million miles and right back down
try a few hundred km and you'll be closer... they aren't going to mars or anything.
I think you're backwards.
When A licenses to B, B is the customer, A is the supplier. More importantly, however, A's success is dependant on the success of the game.
I think you should reverse this. Once A has licensed the character (for a fee), the success of the game is not as important to them. All the money is free money, and they can continue to license the charachter to C, D, and E. Although a successful game will make future games easier.
When A hires B, it's the other way around. A doesn't really care about the sales of the game, because it [the royalty payments] is basically free money to them. B is now dependant on the game's success.
Again, backwards. When A hires B to do the programming A cares about the sales of the game because that's where their money is to be made. B would like success too (it helps make them look better), but regardless B has still been paid.
For someone like me it would be a godsend. We have three cats. To keep the house relatively hair free we need to vacum just about daily. If we had this thing, we could probably just do the couches and stairs once a week and do one big cleaning of the whole house on weekends.
You're thinking of starwars. in star trek they always try to explain stuff... whether it's dilithium, or tachyon, or neutrinos, they always have some techno babble to explain everything.
I always thought that made it more believable. Things rarely just ignite into fireballs on impact, unless of course it's hollywood. I think you may just have gotten so used to seeing it, it's assumed to be true.
Don't lump starship troopers in their. It's campy yes, but an excelent book. And the book actually makes the movie better.
...And they never said that a giant spider would be able to lift a car. But they did show some interesting science about genetically enhancing people to be stronger, and showed the results they've had in mice. They also had an interesting demonstration of the strength of spider silk.
Actually it's the reverse. Distributing MP3's without a copyright is a crime. Downloading is only a crime if you know that the source did not have the right to distribute. It can be argued that it's common knowledge no one on Kazza has that right, but it's still a tougher arguement to make than the person sharing files.
Actually what you rent at the video store is private. There is a law to say as such. This was a big deal in Oklahoma when the police got the list of names of everyone who had tin drum rented.
That'd be a good guess... except since I don't eat meat, there has never been any meat in my skillet or on my grill :)
And McDonald's Fries were never fried in beef tallow... the grease used to have a small component of tallow (10% if remember). I used to work there.
Actually the new Grillers Prime and Diner Deluxe from Garden Burger are quite tasty. Especially when grilled, or cooked in a cast iron skillet.
Ask and you shall recieve: A Duke University study found... "The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life." ( The costs of processing murder cases in North Carolina / Philip J. Cook, Donna B. Slawson ; with the assistance of Lori A. Gries. [Durham, NC] : Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy, Duke University, 1993.) "The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level." (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988). "A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 ) "Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution." (Miami Herald, July 10, 1988). "Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000." (The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6) Figures from the General Accounting Office are close to these results. Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year. (GOA report and testimony FY-97 GGD-97-15 ) That didn't take more than 5 minutes on google.