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Roomba Robot Vacuum Gets Siblings

Victor Tramp writes "Apparently, the cute little robot vacuum by iRobot has siblings now! An article over at Forbes.com goes into some detail about the new Roomba models; featuring the Roomba Pro, which 'is an improvement on the original Roomba, including an intelligent navigation system..', and the Roomba Pro Elite, which is the '...new flagship model. It comes with a remote-control unit that lets you navigate the Roomba around the room, changing cleaning options as it goes.' I have one of the original Roombas, and it actually does a really good job!"

204 comments

  1. Packs by rf0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now it would be cool that if you had some of these roming free in an office building and they communicated about what they had done the you could just havea small pack of the robots constatnly cleaning

    Some sort of redundant bug system

    Rus

    1. Re:Packs by CausticPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good idea, but imagine getting off the elevator and seeing a swarm of these things just sitting there waiting for you under the control of Gene Simmons.

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  2. Great but... by L-s-L69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I still need one that can go up and down stairs, and clean behind my servers on the floor.

    1. Re:Great but... by PrImED73 · · Score: 0, Funny

      Inbuilt chemical analysis would be cool, it could put my hash in a pre programmed safe place if i dropped it in a stoned stupor the night before.

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    2. Re:Great but... by L-s-L69 · · Score: 1

      Genius idea! Could also be good for picking up case screws etc.

    3. Re:Great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like my coffee like i like my women. Dark, full bodied and slightly bitter

      Sounds like my ex-wife (emphasis important), although she was a little more than slightly bitter :(

  3. This robot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...really sucks!! :)

    1. Re:This robot... by kfg · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, but a more tradtional vacuum with an attachement set can be easily converted to blow.

      KFG

    2. Re:This robot... by mt2mb4me · · Score: 0

      obligatory quote "Mega-Maid went from suck to blow!!!" --Space Balls

    3. Re:This robot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah ha, R2D2's great, great, great, great, ..., great, grandson: SUX2BU

    4. Re:This robot... by ianmorris · · Score: 1

      this reminds me of a quote i heard i while ago "the day microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make vacumes."

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  4. Dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ahh shit the vacuum got the cat again.

    1. Re:Dammit by hashwolf · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's what I call an intelligent vacuum cleaner!

      Not only it cleans, but it makes sure the floor stay cleaner, longer.

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    2. Re:Dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not only it cleans, but it makes sure the floor stay cleaner, longer.


      In Soviet Russia, vacuum cleaner cleans YOU!
  5. Outfits for the roomba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Roomba may do a good job cleaning, but I'm sure it doesn't look very good in a little french maid outfit....um..unless you have a robot fetish or something, I guess.

    1. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by demonbug · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah yes, the classic Geek problem: Robovacuum or French Maid, Robovacuum or French maid...

      Fortunately, I already have a girlfriend, so I guess I won't be needing that robovacuum.

      (Only one slashdot reader was seriously injured due to the posting of this comment)

    2. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like Schemmi in Luvliner?

    3. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by KillerLoop · · Score: 2, Funny

      please. thats *SO* wrong.

      I'd be: Robovaccum or Freedom Maid, Robovacuum or Freedom Maid... :)

    4. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by Surak · · Score: 3, Funny

      (Only one slashdot reader was seriously injured due to the posting of this comment)

      Due to his girlfriend slapping him? ;)

    5. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 1

      Well thank you captain obvious.

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    6. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by JamochasWitness · · Score: 1

      What does "having a girlfriend" have to do with this? Can she outperform the Roomba? *AND* the french maid? Sounds like a keeper to me!

    7. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by Guppy · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the classic Geek problem: Robovacuum or French Maid, Robovacuum or French maid...
      Fortunately, I already have a girlfriend, so I guess I won't be needing that robovacuum.


      OK, have to ask... which one would be capable of generating more suction?

    8. Re:Outfits for the roomba? by rleibman · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the first church of Apliantology.

  6. Cleaning options? by Martijn+Ras · · Score: 1

    As in: A) pigsty clean B) litttered C) neat D) dustfree

  7. Sounds like a great concept... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ...but does it run Linux??

    Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of autonomous vacuum robots?

    In Soviet Russia, the robot sucks YOU! (Insert Leslie Nielsen Naked Gun "Swedish Sure-Grip Suck Machine" quote here)

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  8. obligatory joke by mirko · · Score: 4, Funny

    If Microsoft made a vacuum cleaner, it'd be their only product which would not suck...

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    1. Re:obligatory joke by anethema · · Score: 3, Funny

      Careful with that joke..its an antique ;)

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    2. Re:obligatory joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if Linus made it, it would be years before anyone but vacuum cleaner techs could use it?

    3. Re:obligatory joke by caudron · · Score: 1

      If Microsoft made a vacuum cleaner, it'd be their only product which would not suck...

      Right. It would blow.

      BaDumBum.

      -Tom

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  9. Interesting... by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

    I'm interested in a Roomba, but it's still a bit pricey I think, and I'm not sure how well it would work on a short carpet. Buying it would be a no-brainer for a hardwood floor or other flat flooring.

    Maybe I'll pick up a used one on Ebay or something to play with and see how it works.

    N.

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    1. Re:Interesting... by nonmaskable · · Score: 5, Informative

      It works great on the medium thickness carpet (as well as the wood and tile) in my home. Cleaning carpet seems to hit the battery harder than cleaning wood, so you can pretty much only get one large and one small room on a charge.

      On any surface, it doesn't replace a once every few months hand cleaning with a regular vacuum, but for a once or twice a week cleaning, it really does work.

    2. Re:Interesting... by ramk13 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can head to a Sharper Image store if there's one nearby you and ask for a demo. I went with my cousin when he got one for my uncle. It works well for maintenance cleaning.

    3. Re:Interesting... by renegade600 · · Score: 1

      I have one and it works better on carpet. It does not do so well on hardwood floor - miss too much.

      I also looked at the new kids on the block and it does not look like theres any difference in the actual cleaning. The original is still 199. the pro is 229 and the pro elite is 249. IMO opinion the only difference for the price is the accessories.

      However, when I get my robomower http://www.robomower.com and my Sony AIBO http://www.us.aibo.com/ , I will have it made.

    4. Re:Interesting... by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is that on a hard floor nothing beats a broom and one of the new variety of "sticky" mops. They also have the advanage of being cheap, nonelectric and lasting for as long as you do.

      For carpet I've found nothing that beats a good set of Oreck products. You really need line power to do a good job here. Orecks are a bit on the expensive side compared to a Hoover or Eureka, but damned cheap compared to a Kirby or Electrolux ( you can get an Oreck upright, handheld AND steamer for the price of one Kirby)and competitively priced with the Roomba itself.

      The Roomba strikes me as an "intermediate" product. It'll do a kind of a good job between times when you do it properly. This may be a legitimate niche for some people, but I find I can do an equal job in only a handful of minutes ( like during television commercials) with the broom and a damp rag.

      Having an automatic floor cleaning "maid" is an old dream ( often fulfilled with an actual maid) but we aren't quite there yet.

      The convenience and the cost of the Roomba just don't quite add up to the amount of labor saved yet.

      KFG

    5. Re:Interesting... by cens0r · · Score: 1

      For someone like me it would be a godsend. We have three cats. To keep the house relatively hair free we need to vacum just about daily. If we had this thing, we could probably just do the couches and stairs once a week and do one big cleaning of the whole house on weekends.

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    6. Re:Interesting... by kfg · · Score: 1

      I understand the issue. I once shared my home with 15 cats, the odd rabbit or two and other various smaller forms of furball.

      Someone once asked my mother, "What do you do about all the cat hair?"

      To which she replied, "Do with it? I walk on it, breath it, sleep in it and eat it."

      I'm unconvinced that the Roomba is up to this sort of thing. Even with just one cat and one oriental rug frequent teardowns of my upright are required to keep it from smothering in the stuff. The fact that I wear my own hair long contributes to the problem, the cat isn't the only source of vacuum killing detritus.

      KFG

    7. Re:Interesting... by deanj · · Score: 1

      According to the website, the newer model can clean on all surfaces and automatically adjusts, and even has an arm to clean really close to walls. I'm betting it's a lot better at cleaning hardwood floors than the old one.

    8. Re:Interesting... by jfinke · · Score: 2, Informative
      I too have 3 cats. I bought a roomba. It couldn't keep up. I spent more time cleaning the roomba then I would have vacuuming by hand.

      I bought at Dyson Animal the other month. It is pretty amazing. It is actually disgusting how much crap it picks up. I got it for $450 from amazon (they were having a Friday special). It also has a little attachment for pet hair. It works pretty well.

    9. Re:Interesting... by child_of_mercy · · Score: 1

      dude, in my place we vacuum twice a year tops.

      not because we're poor, just because we're lazy and busy.

      this could be a big help.

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  10. I want one with a camera by heironymouscoward · · Score: 3, Funny


    - It can lurk in the dark corners at night and photograph burglars using its infrared lights.

    - It can monitor the light levels and tell the lights to brighten or dim accordingly.

    - I can surf to it (of course it has wifi and an IP address) and if we get two of them, we can play "robowars" in the hallway.

    - The camera can rotate upwards and ... uh-oh, the boss is here, gotta get back to work.

    "Just cleaning the floor, boss!"

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    1. Re:I want one with a camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I just want a frieken' Roomba with a frieken' laser beam on its head. Is that too much to ask?

    2. Re:I want one with a camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - I can surf to it (of course it has wifi and an IP address) and if we get two of them, we can play "robowars" in the hallway.

      well... if I wasn't the typical fat geek, I'd love to surf ON it!

  11. does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by kaltkalt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if it doesn't automatically move over to the re-charging unit when it's running low on power, self-recharge, and then automatically start cleaning again when fully charged, it's worthless IMO.

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    1. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by ramk13 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Have you seen one? I've used the original. As far as I know they have no 'auto charging' capability. You pick it up when it dies and then plug it into the charger. It's very far from worthless though.

      You just clean one or two rooms a day, and you don't have to watch it while it's doing it. It's very convenient, even without the auto recharge feature you are talking about. Features like intellegent autocharging and networking probably won't be in consumer vacuums for a little while. (Especially since a viable Roomba competitor hasn't popped up.)

    2. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by MoobY · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've seen a demonstration of a robot vacuum cleaner a couple of weeks ago (I can't remember the brand, but it was a yellow robot). This vacuum robot did manage to go back to the recharger. But that was not the only thing it could do, it also dumped the collected dust into a container sitting in the recharger, so you never had to actually do anything with the robot, as it was able to feed itself and get rid of the dust. It was however a tad more expensive than the the roomba (but I can't remember the correct price tag either).

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    3. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Here's something for you:

      http://trilobite.electrolux.co.uk

      Regards!
      Darko

    4. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by edalytical · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the ability to dump itself, as well as adjust itself for different types of carpet and it absolutely has to be able to go up stairs. Oh yeah and run on a schedule. If it doesn't do all that so I can think about and do more important things then it's worthless.

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    5. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by allanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if it doesn't automatically move over to the re-charging unit when it's running low on power, self-recharge, and then automatically start cleaning again when fully charged, it's worthless IMO.


      Are you seriously saying that not having to actually vacuum, but merely recharge and empty the thing, is worthless? The actual vacuuming is by far the most timeconsuming part of cleaning the floors.


      Have you heard of the law of diminishing returns? One interpretation says that solving most of the problem is easy (and cheap), but solving the entire problem is hard (and costly). I'm pretty sure that devices such as you've required does exist (other posters refer to such units, but I have not seen specific links yet), but it probably costs WAAAY more than the lowly Roomba. Not to mention the fact that devices with more advanced capabilities - such as those mentioned by you - are more likely to fail because of unexpected situations that the developers were not given enough time to properly deal with.

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    6. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Sanctuary · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do you mean this?
      Cye Personal Robot

    7. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by clifyt · · Score: 2, Informative

      "You pick it up when it dies and then plug it into the charger. It's very far from worthless though"

      Yeah -- but unless you have the rapid 2.5 Hour Recharger -- this is VERY annoying. I think even the new Pro models come without this important piece.

      I just picked one up the original this weekend and its VERY cool. But the fact that I can get a single large room and half of my hallway in a day is a problem. It takes 12 hours to recharge otherwise. On weekdays -- this isn't as bad as on the weekend -- on the weekend, I spend a lot more time at home and I know I'm going to kill the battery by doing half charges.

      Still a GREAT machine -- I'm just pissed I got caught behind the curve for once exactly how my friends always scream they are going put off buying something because 'a new version is just around the corner' -- with me telling them they are idiots. I've wanted one of these for over a year now and I had a little extra money, so I don't feel bad about the purchase -- but I'm SERIOUSLY thinking of taking the standard back in for a Pro as soon as the local Sharper Image has one in stock.

    8. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i saw it too, it is a karcher or something i think.
      But i still think it is no competitor for the roomba, because it costs at least 1000$.
      The is another (big) brand company that does make a cleaner like the roomba but it also costs more than 1000$.

      I have no roomba at the moment but only saw good comments(have been watching it for few months now).
      When the new model is available in europe i definetely gonna buy one, although it costs 350$ just for the base model overhere.

      Best buy until now ever was our dishwasher and i think the roomba will also buy me lots of extra free time. Me and my girlfriend work both in the IT, so we have little free time(certainly no time for cleaning).

    9. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by a_timid_mouse · · Score: 0

      No, he probably meant this.

    10. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by cacheMan · · Score: 1
      Worthless? It has changed vacuming to just pushing a start button, emptying a dust bin, and plugging back in when done. As I said before, I love my roomba.


      As for the remote control, I would never buy one of these. The beauty of the roomba is that it cleans while you go do something else. If you are going to sit there and control the vacume, you might as well get off your butt and push an normal vacume around.

    11. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I have one (the first robotvacuumcleaner) that
      does this. It's the Swedish Electrolux Trilobite.

      Works very well. The only feature the roomba has
      that it lacks is the sensor for stairs. But this
      can be solved with some magnetic tape...

    12. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by MoobY · · Score: 1

      That's indeed the one. Karcher. Should've remembered.

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    13. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by molarmass192 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Karcher one looks very cool but it's $3000 AUD (~$2000 USD). I'm not paying $2K for a vacuum cleaner unless it does a heck of a lot more than just sweep the rugs.

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    14. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by a_timid_mouse · · Score: 1

      Heh. And yet I get modded down from "1" as "overrated". Go figure.

    15. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Rob+Parkhill · · Score: 1

      While I do like my Roomba, there is one thing that it simply can't handle: dog hair. The little edge-sweeper gets completely tangled in it, and I can spend upwards of 20 minutes cleaning the Roomba of all the tangled dog hair after running it through the living room. Most annoying is that the Roomba video showed a Newfoundland dog laying there as the Roomba runs by, and talked about how it was great at picking up the dog hair. What they don't mention is cleaning it out afterwards is a PITA! (I have a Newf...)

      This isn't limited to the Roomba, I have an upright vacuum that has the same problem, but it doesn't take nearly as long to detangle.

      I wish the Roomba used a back-and-forth agitator (like a Rug Doctor carpet shampooer) instead of the spinning agitator. This would solve most of the problem.

      Oh, and the original Rooomba has serious issues with long stairs/ledges. I have a sunken living room, with an 8 foot long step between the rooms. The Roomba falls off this step all the time. If it is running -almost- paralell to the step, it will end up tipping over the edge and stopping, making it's "I'm in trouble" call. On smaller steps, it has no problem.

      But hey, it still beats cleaning the floor the old fashioned way.

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    16. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by invisik · · Score: 1

      Just like with a TiVo or ReplayTV box, you have to change the way you vacuum or watch TV. One or two rooms per day, charge it overnight. Within a few days everything is done. Wait your desired dirtiness interval, and repeat.

      It's a huge time saver even over a few days because you put it in a room, turn it on, hit the room size, go to work and forget about it. Or have it drive around while you are watching TV.

      -m

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    17. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      why would it be WAAAY more expensive? it is a trivial thing to do.

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    18. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by Odinson · · Score: 1
      Mod Up Parent!

      TY

    19. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by zptdooda · · Score: 1

      Well I hope I get a chance to meta- that one. Maybe their hand slipped - on a banana peel - when they were modding. (monkey and typewriter syndrome)

      Anyway thanks for the info. I'm deciding which to get and the review you pointed to is useful.

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    20. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by MegaFur · · Score: 1

      Alright, I'm stepping out into theoretical (and shakey) ground, but here goes:

      For Roomba to do what it does (even Roomba Pro Elite), it doesn't have to be very bright. Specifically, it doesn't have to know the shape or size of the room(s) and it doesn't have to have a "mental map" of the terrain.

      For Roomba to be able to go back to it's charger, it would have to know where it's charger is. This requires it to make (or have programmed into it) a "mental map" of the terrain. Possibly also a homing signal just to help make sure it gets there. And/or something approximating "eyesight". It also would have to have an algorithm to let it know that if it's x distance away from the charger, then it can vacuum for y more time before it needs to head back. (In other words, it has to calculate how much charge it has left based on distance from the charging station to make sure it gets back before it runs out of juice.)

      Now it doesn't sound so easy does it? Remember, the people responsible for Roomba are a company intending to make money (at least in theory). At this time, the Roomba people probably don't feel that automatic recharging is a cost-effective feature for them to include. It looks like the remote control feature is intended as an in-between solution.

      If the company doesn't die, I imagine they'll eventually branch out into producing a more general house robot that will be significantly more advanced than Roomba. At that time, it's likely that self recharging along with many other features will be added. For now though, it's really just a semi-automated vacuum cleaner.

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    21. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by mlrtime · · Score: 1


      Yea, and when someone creates something that does all that and charges $1000 you will say it is too expensive, and then by the time it is affordable you will want it to do the windows!

    22. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by clifyt · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, with the cats -- I'm thinking I either need 2 Roombas or the rapid recharger. They trash one room a day with their fur, and unless I ONLY use the roomba in their favorite room, I don't think I'm going to get much use out of it (though the living room no longer has the white sheen over the red carpet :-)

    23. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by TekPolitik · · Score: 1
      I'm not paying $2K for a vacuum cleaner unless it does a heck of a lot more than just sweep the rugs.

      Most vacuum cleaners suck and blow too, which is pretty good considering most people can't get their wives to do that.

    24. Re:does it go to the recharger when low on juice? by child_of_mercy · · Score: 1

      depends which rug you ask it to sweep no?

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  12. Hopefully by kinnell · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hopefully the Super Roomba Pro Elite 300 Deluxe will have suckers on its wheels, so it can also climb up walls and suck the bugs of my ceiling. Otherwise, I'll stick with a regular vacuum cleaner.

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    1. Re:Hopefully by Leif_Bloomquist · · Score: 1

      I need this too, as the previous owners of my house put carpet on the ceiling in the basement!

      Pic

      (Must have been a 70's thing)

    2. Re:Hopefully by kinnell · · Score: 1

      Groovy. You should nail some old furniture to the ceiling to confuse visitors.

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  13. Seems cheaper than we think by neglige · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [...] but it's still a bit pricey [...]

    I thought so, too - at first. But the article mentions that the Pro Elite (the 'flagship', other models might be even cheaper) will sell at $250. And that is - to my mind - an acceptable price. A good vacuum cleaner won't be much cheaper.

    I really have to start thinking about getting one. Earlier models sold for several hundred or even thousand dollar. A test would be nice though, because my robo would have to deal with 2 cats (bonus points for hovering up to the sofa and cleaning all the hairs off it)...

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    1. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by Blnky · · Score: 1

      Having two cats myself I can vouch for the ability for the original roomba to handle the cat fur very nicely. My floors stay much cleaner than when I did it myself. It also fun to watch the cats run like mad when they think it's chaseing them. Grated, I still have to do the sofa myself, but I would rather do a sofa than the whole house anyday. If the newer models show that they really are an improvement over the original then they are definately worth the money.

    2. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      will sell at $250. And that is - to my mind - an acceptable price. A good vacuum cleaner won't be much cheaper

      Yeah, but a 'good vacuum cleaner' generates a vacuum and sucks up dirt. According to the recent dissection we saw on slashdot, the only motor in a Roomba turns the wheels. This this is a broom, not a vacuum.

    3. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      A test would be nice though, because my robo would have to deal with 2 cats (bonus points for hovering up to the sofa and cleaning all the hairs off it)...

      Just buy a Roomba at your nearest Sharper Image store. No hassle two month return policy, especially at the Raleigh store.

    4. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhhh... roomba has always been $200.

    5. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      According to the recent dissection we saw on slashdot, the only motor in a Roomba turns the wheels. This this is a broom, not a vacuum.


      Actually. it's the robosweep that has only one motor.

      I took apart my Roomba and found five motors in it, One is the vacuum impeller, one for the main brush, one for the little side brush (small, but very important), and the two independantly driven wheels. I've started hooking up a microcontroller to mine, and have gotten it to drive, so far(about an hour with a scope and an hour soldering so far)

      It really does work well on carpet though. I have carpet and tile and it works better than my old vacuum, and it doesn't hurt my back like the "real" vacuum did. (I have two roombas, one to use, the other to take apart)

      I also heard that HSN has had the new models on, if you want to see them work. I think they are selling them with remotes.

      People have mentioned the Trilobyte from electrolux... it's not cheap... 1000 (about $1600USD)

      --AC
    6. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by deanj · · Score: 1

      Earlier models of Roomba? No, those always cost $200. You must be thinking of another brand...

    7. Re:Seems cheaper than we think by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      Build a ramp and it will have no problems ascending to your couch. I have it vacuum my raised areas in this manner, just requires some thinking in the shape of the ramp.

  14. Siblings... by watzinaneihm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently, the cute little robot vacuum by iRobot has siblings now!
    I knew these things were intelligent and all, but procreating robots!!!
    Cute, my foot!! Anyone knows how to neuter them thingies ?

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    1. Re:Siblings... by jolshefsky · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, no ... thankfully the 40-something Electrolux I have was impotent.

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  15. What if they turn against us? by ExEleven · · Score: 2, Funny

    Didnt anyone learn anything by watching The Animatrix DVD Part 1 and 2.

    1. Re:What if they turn against us? by ExEleven · · Score: 1

      I ment 2 and 3, but anyway.

  16. I told a friend by cra · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . about this robot, and since he is single, he said that this would be the perfect product for any single guy. Until he found out that it is powered on only 30 wats. Then he found out that it probably don't suck that well. :-)

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  17. Actually by I+KNOW+MARTIAL+ARTS · · Score: 1

    I think it would be more interesting if they could manage to recharge themselves. All I would have to do is keep the floor clear enough. Then, just program a time when you are always away, and automated vacuuming.

  18. I for one... by Channard · · Score: 3, Funny

    .. am creeped out by the idea of sentient cleaner robots running around, ever since I saw the 'Paradise Towers' episode of Dr Who where the robots took to cleaning up humans. It's a short step from cleaner robots to plasma gun toting Terminators. Honest (adjusts tin foil hat)

    1. Re:I for one... by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      "...plasma gun toting Terminators."

      To keep your analogy in context shouldn't it be Daleks rather Terminators?

    2. Re:I for one... by Peldor · · Score: 0

      Clean up humans? Talk about a killer app! Though if it was programmable...

  19. Dyson DC06 Robot? by EddWo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whatever happened to the Dyson DC06? That was the first robot vacuum I've seen presented and it seemed to have the most intelligence. They don't seem to have sold very many though. Maybe the price put people off.

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    1. Re:Dyson DC06 Robot? by Cynicx · · Score: 1

      It doesn't have a filter though ... imagine the carnage if it were cracked.

    2. Re:Dyson DC06 Robot? by timbloid · · Score: 1

      The DCO6 is currently on home trial.

      It does look nice though :-) I particularly like the hand attatchment, so you can do it manually when needs be...

      All of the Roomba users seem to say that you have to do a manual clean every month or so, which surely requires you to have 2 hoovers?

      1 hoover is a necessity, 2 an extravagance IMO

    3. Re:Dyson DC06 Robot? by misterpies · · Score: 1

      ll of the Roomba users seem to say that you have to do a manual clean every month

      Since I only vacuum once a month anyway, doesn't look like a Roomba will save me any work...

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    4. Re:Dyson DC06 Robot? by wjsteele · · Score: 1

      They haven't sold any... it's been in "Home Trials" for a couple years now.

      Bill

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    5. Re:Dyson DC06 Robot? by jtregear · · Score: 1

      I also like the hand attachment. I often have a need to do it manually.

  20. DIY roomba by MoobY · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm currently working on a project to mount my handheld vacuum cleaner on top of a robot made with my Lego Mindstorms set. You can program the bot yourself, add some extra intelligence. I'm pretty sure I'll have a robot vacuuming my floors pretty soon, without having to spend the $200 on it. And as an extra, it's great fun building and programming one!

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    1. Re:DIY roomba by ramk13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to knock the project, which sounds super cool, but doesn't the cost of a mindstorms set + a handheld vacuum easily approach $150-200? Maybe if you can get a smaller mindstorms set, or if you already have one, it would make sense.

    2. Re:DIY roomba by wjsteele · · Score: 1

      Without having to spend $200 on it??? Let's do the math.

      - $199 for Lego Mindstorm kits (MSRP and the price you see in every store.)
      - $19-$199 handheld vacuum cleaner.
      - $30 - For additional sensors which are need to do everything the Roomba already does.

      Ooops!!! We're over $200... plus you have to build the damn thing.

      I'll stick with my Roomba (Classic?) for now.

      Bill

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    3. Re:DIY roomba by bpb213 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course, doing it yourself is very fun, and possible to stay under $200 by avoiding legos.
      Just look here for a competition for this type of stuff:
      http://www.botlanta.org/rally2003/vac_phot os.html

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    4. Re:DIY roomba by MoobY · · Score: 1

      For all those computing the price of my new robot vacuum cleaner, I already have a handheld vacuum cleaner and a lego mindstorms set, so it doesn't cost me anything extra to build one. Also note that a robot vacuum cleaner is not the only thing one can do with a set of lego mindstorms.

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    5. Re:DIY roomba by toddestan · · Score: 1

      ...and call it the "Cannibal" for whenever it sucks up all the Legos you carelessly left on the floor.

    6. Re:DIY roomba by neglige · · Score: 1

      - $199 for Lego Mindstorm kits (MSRP and the price you see in every store.)
      - $19-$199 handheld vacuum cleaner.
      - $30 - For additional sensors which are need to do everything the Roomba already does.

      - The face of your cat when it's sucked in by a bunch of Legos: priceless.

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  21. Blah Blah Blah, God Damn Product Leverage by Delifisek · · Score: 1

    So why I have to buy a virtual wall unit, or a remote control unit ? What is that damned Pro, Elite, Fanatic, Zealot models ?

    This just selling same thing, for more bucks....

    Wanna upgrade this one.

    Add auto dump system. Perhaps adding Wifi system to attach this lidle rat into home wifi network for improve guidenance using some kind of home planning program.

    Uh no. This upgrades makes this robot too useful !!! But this is Capitalism, before the reach of this usability you have to sell 5 more versions to profit enough.

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  22. A mature product already exists by CoderByBirth · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Swedish house appliance manufacturer Electrolux has a model called Trilobite which has been around for a couple of years.

    I haven't seen this sucker in action, but if memory serves me correctly it should be able to move around your home on flat surfaces, avoid obstacles and return to the power station.

    1. Re:A mature product already exists by EddWo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice use of Flash here.
      http://trilobite.electrolux.co.uk/

      They say it can recharge itself automatically.
      It must build an internal map remember how far it moved to return to recharging station.

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    2. Re:A mature product already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, nice, trilobite just costs over 1000e.

    3. Re:A mature product already exists by bhima · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is one on display at one of the stores here in Graz, I don't remember exactly how much, but I think it was over 700 Euros. Which is much more than roomba.

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    4. Re:A mature product already exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have one and it works very well!

      It's a bit more expensive, but looks much better and
      finds the chargestation automatically when needed.

    5. Re:A mature product already exists by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      "I haven't seen this sucker in action"

      Stealth pun.

    6. Re:A mature product already exists by Judge_Fire · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's quite advanced. It builds a map, but isn't tied to it. For navigation, it has a sonar which crackles in a wickedly robotic way, when it tries to find the power station.

      If you accidentally nudge it, when its loading, it will bleep in a slightly annoyed tone and replace its, umm, hindside on the connectors.

      So it actually has a bit of personality and really feels like a semi-sentient robotic pal.

      J

  23. Re:More info required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Has anybody got any suggestions?

    Yes. Check your Roomba's bag.

  24. Only one problem... by kikai+suki · · Score: 0, Redundant

    They all suck.
    (*ducks to avoid flying objects*)

  25. Modding? by Cynicx · · Score: 1

    ... mod the damn thing to blow instead of suck ie. roboblow. Would make a convenient lazy-boy to fetch drinks, crips etc - all controlled by the remote.

    Of course you'd need someone to load the beer/coffee onto it ... but a minor details.

  26. If only.. by Sunnan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...I could manage to keep our floor uncluttered enough for these to be useful. (In which case I wouldn't need them because it wouldn't be too hard to do it myself.)

    1. Re:If only.. by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ya, that was my other concern :P

      I just picture it swinging by the computer in the livingroom and getting all caught up in the cabling and such :|

      N.

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    2. Re:If only.. by Blnky · · Score: 1

      I know how you feel. My floors are are usually cluttered as well. I just grab everyting real quick and toss it up on the couch before I start it up. As for cabeling, I had the exact same concern. However, it does surpriseingly well. If it hits a single cable it usually jusy drives right over it and goes on. When it gets under my desk and encounters the five foot long run of power, network, video, mouse, keyboard, sound, usb, and other miscelaneous cables it typically changes direction as if it hit a wall. Mine doesn't tend to get stuck and it has never caused things to come unplugged. I no longer worry about it any more. I love being able to say I am vacumeing while I am playing unreal tournament at the same time. Also, its a lot quieter than most other vacumes (and many pc systems these days).

  27. Durability of Roomba? by Channard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One thing occurs to me regards the Roomba - just how well does it stand up to kids? It sounds like a great invention but knowing how much stress kids can put on pieces of equipment. Especially equipment that might attract their attention by moving around of its own accord? Clearly it can't be expected to withstand Little Billy pushing it downstairs just to see what would happen, but can the Roomba's withstand bumps and knocks?

    1. Re:Durability of Roomba? by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      After intentionally disabling the ledge sensors in mine and having it take a tumble down a flight of stairs I can tell you that this is one of the most durable mobile appliances in my house, easily tougher than my normal vacuum cleaner.

    2. Re:Durability of Roomba? by randomaxe · · Score: 1

      But if you've got kids, who needs a roomba? Put the little bastards to work, already.

    3. Re:Durability of Roomba? by jtregear · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have kids and it hasn't been a problem. The Roomba just vacuums them right up along with all the other stuff.

  28. This one does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.megapool.nl/site/modules/showhtml.asp?s trCondition=a&intGroepID=557 From Karcher, site is in Dutch. Mod me up, this thing is much cooler than a Roomba.

    1. Re:This one does by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

      yeah, indeed, it clearly is better/cooler than Roomba. I don't see why slashdotters support the roomba so greatly when this product is clearly superior. May have to get one of these.

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    2. Re:This one does by child_of_mercy · · Score: 1

      "I don't see why slashdotters support the roomba so greatly when this product is clearly superior.

      PRICE

      I can buy a Roomba with weekly mad money and its a choice between that or taking my girlfriend on a nice date.

      (she doesn't mind staying home and would probably appreciate the gadget)

      A Karcher would cost so much that i'd have to be *certain* it would work.

      And i might get better service buy paying a nice phillipino woman (mexican to most of you i guess) to come clean the house for $40/week instead.

      The Karcher probly won't do my dishes and iron my shirts.

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  29. The Karcher RoboCleaner is much better by markus_baertschi · · Score: 5, Informative

    I prefer the Karcher RoboCleaner for one important reason:

    It requires almost no manual intervention

    You just tell it how often it should go out and clean and once in a while you empty the dirt in the base station. No other interventions are necessary.

    Il empties its dirt container itself and recharges itself automatically et the base station.

    Details here

    Markus

    1. Re:The Karcher RoboCleaner is much better by bobbyque · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice unit, but did you check the price? $2995. Ten Roombas could do a whole lotta cleaning...

    2. Re:The Karcher RoboCleaner is much better by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      Ten? Try 17. Sharper Image has Roombas available for $170 often (I got 3 at that price last Christmas).

  30. Electrolux has a better one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Electrolux has a better one! by browman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it costs 1000... that's 800 for the luxury of it scooting off and recharging itself...

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  31. This one does! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:This one does! by leinhos · · Score: 1

      I think the Electrolux version costs upwards of $1k (US), while the Roomba is $200. The Electrolux version also doesn't have "cliff" sensors to keep it from falling off stair edges.

  32. Bah! by MoeMoe · · Score: 1

    Who needs a Roomba, the RoboSweep is all I need to keep my place clean... Now why are there squirrels rummaging in my clothing pile?

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  33. Sucks for me... by CheapScott · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...but in a good way!

    I bought a Rooma a couple of weeks ago after the last article that mentioned about the cheap (money-wise and quality-wise) competitor. We have two cats, two dogs, and hardwood floors. We "set it free" each morning as we go out to work. We didn't do it yesterday, and I noticed it as I was lying on the floor...sand and hair. It really does a good job for us.

    As far as having the ability to go back and recharge itself when it's done...yeah, it'd be nice, but it works fine for us how it is. Otherwise, we (i.e. my wife) would have to be dragging out the regular vaccuum every day. It does great in terms of just maintaining a sane level of cleanliness.

    I can see a future of fleets of these things roaming a hotel cleaning all of the rooms. Sort of reminds me of the robots from Minority Report.

    1. Re:Sucks for me... by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      With my schedule I set it free when I get home. It hasn't finished charging when I leave for work in the morning.

      The only problem I have had is that with two dogs the dog hair tends to get wrapped around the brush and roller, and not get tossed into the refuse bin. Either every recharge, or at worst every other recharge I have to take about 10 or 20 min and clean them up.

      It does help in another way as well. Because I Know that it needs a relatively clean space to work, I have done a better job of getting clutter off of my floor. Still not perfect, but better.

      I am contemplating naming it 1811, as I don't think it is quite as capable as 1812. 1776, might be a better name however.

      -Rusty

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  34. Check also these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the Italian company Zucchetti, check the models listed on the left of this page. The page is in Italian but there are also some illustrated .pdf files available.

  35. But.. by browman · · Score: 1

    ..where's the robot to pat you on the back when you choke on a cherry pip.

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  36. Roomba vs Aibo? by nai · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Next match on battlebots! A $200 vacuum versus a $2000 dog? Let's place your bet!

  37. Roomba doesnt have any suction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Compare its wussy suction to that of a 12 amp vacuum. Lots of crap stays in the carpet. After a while the crud becomes permanently locked in your carpert (ie, you carpet ages faster). Roomba is nice but they need to make it as powerful as the 12 amp vacuums.

  38. Two questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does a circle shaped robot with a smaller circle shaped vaccuuming area get to clean in corners ?
    Are there infinitely smaller versions that specialise in corners to finish off the job ?

  39. It's time for a Robotics category by Onnimikki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With so many robotics stories lately (Japan's Proposed 30-Year Robot Program, Robots for Air Force Protection, Swimming Cockroach Robot Developed, etc.), it's time that Slashdot made up a new category as opposed to filing them under "Upgrades".

  40. Obsolete already??? by bobetov · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm used to my computers going obsolete while still in transit from the seller, but my vacuum cleaner??? I just bought a "standard" model Roomba last week!

    Dammit.

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    1. Re:Obsolete already??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sucks, huh?

    2. Re:Obsolete already??? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      We have a word for people like you....

      Sucker!

  41. Linux? by UtilityFog · · Score: 1

    Actually, iRobot does use Linux in their higher-end robots.

  42. Cheaper alternatives available... by cherokee158 · · Score: 1

    ...like the robot I have, which patrols the house tirelessly cleaning up all the food the kids drop. It is self-recharging, and can resist any amount of abuse the kids dish out. It will even retrieve certain items for me, and doubles as a securioty system. Best of all, it was free! On the down side, she does get hair on the couch, but what can you expect from a Golden Retriever?

    1. Re:Cheaper alternatives available... by bluGill · · Score: 1

      I don't know golden retrievers well, but if they are anything like my black lab (and most people tell me they are different, but close) the only security you will get is from likcing a burgler to death.

      My lab is perfectly happy to point out the TV, computer, and so on to a thief. Just throw a stick in return please.

    2. Re:Cheaper alternatives available... by valkraider · · Score: 1

      How are they "self recharging"? Mine require Iams battery replacements every day or so, and they produce nauxious by-products in seemingly unending quantities... But they are funny when you give them Atomic Fireballs... Their "security" system goes off at the slightest thump from anywhere in the neighborhood - and the sensitivity, timing, volume, or length of alarm is random and can't be adjusted. And for some reason the vacuum system refuses to pick up peas.

    3. Re:Cheaper alternatives available... by bandy · · Score: 1

      They self-recharge given the foodstuffs the chilluns drop and if you supply bulk nutriments in a standard location, they will make up any shortfall without being asked to. Perhaps your offspring are too neat.

      Hm. Probably time to replenish the nutriment stores.

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  43. Re: I for one by Channard · · Score: 1
    To keep your analogy in context shouldn't it be Daleks rather Terminators?

    Not really - The Terminator and HKs in The Terminator themselves were esentially robots, albeit with an organic covering some cases. And Skynet became self aware on its own. The Daleks on the other hand had a living brain as an essential organic component without which it could not function. And clearly the Roomba would have no way of aquiring such organic materi... hey, anyone seen the cat?

  44. Price Points by bhima · · Score: 1
    The real problem is the price points. Sure the Roomba is not so smart, and it doesn't auto recharge, but it only cost 250 USD. The three other contenders I've seen are all over 700 Euro, with some over 1.500,00 Euro.

    Yes I am lazy, but I'm not that lazy!

    Seriously though, I only have a 45 m2 flat, so one of these would be perfect, and I like the Trilobite and the Karcher. But for the money I'd spend I'd really expect them to be much more intelligent.

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  45. Roomba review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's not getting, under around the smaller, shorter table there. It's not getting up around the edges of the walls and the legs of even the table it keeps going under. It doesn't have enough suction."

    http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/news/073103_TS_roomb a. html

  46. Didn't like my Roomba by Laur · · Score: 5, Informative
    I bought a Roomba as soon as it came out and ended up returning it within a week. My experiences were thus:

    1. It sucked at sucking. It would roll over the same piece of fuzz on the carpet several times and still not pick it up. It just plain didn't work too well. At best it could be a supplement to a regular vacuum, but I didn't think it was worth it.

    2. It wasn't much quieter then a regular vacuum. You couldn't really do much while it was working, such as watch TV in the next room. You couldn't ignore it, it was just too loud. This might be okay for people who leave the house often and run it then, but if you're home and just don't like to vacuum this isn't gaining you much.

    3. The heuristics didn't work to well. Maybe they worked great in the lab with a perfectly square room, but when it needs to work in the real world and go around furniture it seems to fail miserably. It would go over the same patch of floor 5 or 6 times, yet never go over the patch 5 feet away within the time allowed.

    4. It couldn't transition from tile to carpet as advertised. It tried to go over at an angle, got stuck with one wheel on, one off, and proceeded to start rubbing a black rubber mark in my carpet (yes, the carpet/tile transition height was within advertised limits).

    I know other people have these and love them, but these are my experiences (YMMV). I found that manually vacuuming and sweeping took much less time and did a much better job. Further, the Roomba can't replace manually sweeping and vacuuming, it can only supplement it, and IMHO the price is too high for that.

    I certainly wish iRobot the best of luck with the Roomba, since success with this early model will lead to continuously improved products. I am certainly not against robotic appliances, I also have a Robomower and love it. It has many advantages over a manual mower and no drawbacks (except a bit higher price tag, but the benefits far outweigh this IMHO). It's very quit (I can run it at night), nearly maintenance free (it mulches while it cuts, no bag to empty, no engine to maintain), and completely replaces a standard mower. I long for the day when we have more products like this, but I just didn't think the first gen Roomba was it.

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    1. Re:Didn't like my Roomba by technomancerX · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Interesting... I wonder if there was something wrong with your unit. We've had ours for about 2 weeks and it works great, picking up fuzz and even our dog's hair and leaving clean carpets and hardwood floors. Also, we've run it in an odd shaped hallway as well as in a living room and dining room full of furniture and it did hit everything, you just need to let it run until it tells you it's finished.

      I will agree that the transitions are a bit rocky going from one surface to another. The solution is to use the virtual wall units to block transition spots and run it once on each side of a transition. For example our kitchen is linoleum and our living room is carpeted, so we run it separately in the lving room and kitchen.

      What's really nice about it is that you can close it in a room and let it go and then come back later when it's finished running. That's what we do with the bedrooms in our house. The thing has decreased the time we spend vacuuming by about 90%.

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    2. Re:Didn't like my Roomba by ashultz · · Score: 2, Interesting


      I had the same problems. It sometimes treated a floor to carpet edge as a wall. It couldn't deal with complicated geometries created by furniture. It didn't pick up anything bigger than a speck.

      If your home already looks like Martha Stewarts - clean, neat, organized - you might want a Roomba. If it doesn't, you'll have to move the furniture and stuff until it does, at which point running the vaccum yourself will take only a few moments and do a better job.

      This is a product for people whose perfect houses have dust, not for people who really would want a robot vaccum.

  47. Doh! by invisik · · Score: 1

    I just bought one when the original Roomba story ran a few weeks ago. Maybe I'm still within the 30 days return period!

    It is an amazing machine. It does quite well for not actively remembering where it has gone or really knowing the layout of the room. Worth the $200 for the original and DEFINATELY going to be worth the extra $50 for the Elite.

    And who doesn't want to have something that's called "Elite"?

    Run out and get one, only after I've got mine....

    -m

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  48. More Marketing by Daddio · · Score: 1

    Outside of the extra virtual wall I really see nothing here but standard marketing proceure. change the color and call it enhanced, ohh yea and charge more. I want to see some improvements, not just colors and exta flashing lights.

    1. Re:More Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also added a wall mounting unit for storing it and a remote control, which lets you start it and even drive it around manually. [Product Description]

      Most people don't think the remote is useful, but my kids love it, and my mother (who can't vacuum due to back problems) is now alot more satisfied with how clean the floor is, which also keeps her allergies down and gives her time to do the little remaining work like the kitchen counter.

      All in all - a great product, not just for the lazy, but for the allergic and the disabled.

    2. Re:More Marketing by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      Are you looking for it to be larger? Smaller? have a longer battery life? Be programmed to actually keep track of where it has been using a trailing wheel with dead reconing so that it does provide better coverage?

      What "improvements" do you want to "See"? Most of the improvements I can envision would not be visable. Most of what I can visualizes as "visable" changes don't strike me as improvements.

      -Rusty

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  49. We need a robovacuum shootout by atheist666 · · Score: 1

    Seems that there are at least four of these robot vacuum cleaners... Who do we get to test them head-to-head?

  50. There Will Come Soft Rains by skarth · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, I can't help but be reminded of the fate of the dog in Ray Bradbury's short story "There Will Come Soft Rains" whenever I read reports about the Roomba.

    Two-fifteen.
    The dog was gone.


    (shiver)

    Thanks to high school English class, I may never own a Roomba. Ever.

  51. JC Penney has something similar by revscat · · Score: 1

    Several years ago I worked at the JC Penney corporate offices in Texas. At the time the building was new, and one of the cool gadgets they had were mail robots. They would load up the robots with mail, the robot would roll to the elevator, call the elevator, and then follow a special strip in the carpet of each floor, stopping every so often to deliver mail.

    Well, about a week into this people started complaining about the elevators being extremely slow, like a 5 minute or more wait. Turned out that the mail robots were fighting over the elevators: if there was a robot on 3, and one in the basement, and both called the elevator at the same time, the elevator would get stuck.

    Actually, this is not at all similar, now that I think about it.

    1. Re:JC Penney has something similar by Fjord · · Score: 1

      At BNR, we used to like to take up the tiles witht he robot guidance on them and swap them around so that the mail robot would go into a coworkers cubicle. Well, the coworker wouldn't like it.

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      -no broken link
  52. Peace and Quiet . . . by Dausha · · Score: 1

    With Roomba you can always go into another room, or leave the house entirely for complete quiet while Roomba cleans. (Web FAQ) (Emphasis Mine)

    This is good general advice you can use to handle any noisy problem in the home (spouse, dog, etc.), not just the Roomba.

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    What those who want activist courts fear is rule by the people.
  53. My daydream Roomba Hack: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Arrr. I'll gets me an Off-Road, GPS enabled metal detecting roomba. let them loose on the wild shores of the Carribian and rake in the doubloons.Aye, Matey! ARR...

  54. Future siblings proposed by Wvyern · · Score: 1

    How about one that wipes my ass for me? One that wipes the rim of the toilet for me would make my wife happy. One to take the garbage out too, I hate taking garbage out, and Roomba will not suck it up when the pile gets too high.

    --
    "Sheep just follow the easiest path and run from scary noises and intimidating creatures." - Me
  55. And then the robomower... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would complete my basic homecare requirements (http://www.usa.husqvarna.com/Folder_263/node563.a sp?id=4)

  56. iRobo by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
    "Apparently, the cute little robot vacuum by iRobot has siblings now!

    I got the RoboSweep, which is kind of like the retarded cousin that your family doesn't talk about.

  57. Re:Electrolux Trilobite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FYI it's called the Trilobite

  58. Re:Electrolux Trilobite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Trilobite has actually been around since 1997 and been through numerous successively improved versions.

  59. Something's amiss here by mark-t · · Score: 1
    I recall reading a story about this sort of thing just last May... but the site where I read about said that Electrolux was selling them in Britain for a thousand British pounds.

    Now I'm seeing an improved version, one that's smart enough *NOT* to tumble down the stairs without having to set up magnetic tape boundaries on the floor, for only $250 US???

    I know that technology prices can fall, but this sort of price drop in that short a time is beyond credibility. My "if it sounds too good to be true then it is" alert meter has just gone into the red.

    1. Re:Something's amiss here by Bleck · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why Electrolux would be selling them in Britain for so much, but the standard version of Roombas have been cheap here for quite a while. We picked ours up at a "Bed Bath & Beyond" shop in January. It was listing at $200.00, with a 20%-off coupon (widely available), so that was $160.00, over six months ago.
      --Tom

    2. Re:Something's amiss here by bandy · · Score: 1

      I believe it's the principle known as "what the market will bear".

      --
      "You might as well get your son a ticket to hell as give him a five string banjo." -unknown minister
  60. What about dirt amount? by dlettermen · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, unless its just much bigger in person than it looks online... maybe we have a weird household, but, with two golden retrievers, we have ALOT of dog hair, and just vacuuming with a regular vacuum it fills up the vacuum bag/bagless container real quick. This thing looks like it has a thimble for a container for the dirt. It might be good for an apartment or a house with no kids/pets, but, with any kids or pets where your getting alot of dirt and otherwise in the house, I'd think you'd need a bigger compartment (otherwise your following it around anyway's the whole time to empty it).

    1. Re:What about dirt amount? by Sparr0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The dirt compartment is about the size of a VHS tape (give or take). Yes, it fills up quickly if you vacuum once a month. This is not a problem because the idea of the Roomba is to run it every day, sometimes twice a day. Go vacuum your living room with a fresh bag, then put another fresh bag in it and vacuum again the next day. See how much dirt/hair is in the second bag. That is all the Roomba needs to handle.

  61. Getting your house "Roomba-ready" by leinhos · · Score: 3, Informative

    We got a Roomba last December, and it took a little while to get our 1st floor completely "roomba-ready". All the kid's toys get thrown in baskets, I pick up a tassled rug and throw it over a radiator, and I use a virtual wall unit to block a threshold that the Roomba *always* gets stuck on (even though it's below the advertised limit). Now, after dinner, we get our entire 1st floor roomba-ready (pick up toys, move chairs, etc.), and all go upstairs for the kid's baths + stories + bedtime. By the time the kid's are in bed, the Roomba's done (45-60 minutes or so). We still have to vacume every other week or so, but the Roomba keeps the floors cleaner between manual cleaning. Sure, I could sweep every night, but the Roomba does it while I'm doing something else. I figure it saves me 10-15 minutes each day, which is great for those of us with small children. So in the past year, I figure the Roomba has saved me 60-90 hours of free time, which translates to about $2-3/hour. If the thing lasts another year without any maintenance costs, then we're talking about $1-1.50/hour. Would I spend a dollar for an extra hour of free time? (I guess I already do!)

    It's gotten to the point where my 3-year-old daughter can pick it up, put it in the middle of the floor, and turn it on by herself.

    1. Re:Getting your house "Roomba-ready" by child_of_mercy · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing I'm not the only /.'er who finds this idea of cleaning the house *EVERY NIGHT* a teensy bit, shall we say, excessive? or perhaps disturbing?

      I *think* the floors of my place were cleaned some time in 2002 when a flatmate's mother stayed for a week (it felt like a month).

      what i'm after is a dev ice i can set free once every week and will do a better job than no cleaning at all.

      --
      'There is a Light that never goes out.'
    2. Re:Getting your house "Roomba-ready" by rueba · · Score: 1

      The guy has two small kids.

      I would guess the place would probably be a royal mess if he only cleaned once a week. If he cleans everyday, then he can spend less time on the weekly cleaning.

      Plus, the daily cleaning thing is probably his wife's idea. As a generalization, women tend to like things a bit neater than your average slashdotter.

      --
      The only reason all cover-ups appear to fail is that you never hear about the ones that succeed.
    3. Re:Getting your house "Roomba-ready" by leinhos · · Score: 1

      Pretty much on the mark. The daily cleaning thing, however, is my idea -- mostly as a maintenance thing for our hardwood floors. The one thing that will destroy your hardwoods is dust an dirt that is ground in when you walk on it. Also, by the time dinner is over, there is a debris field scattered throughout the entire first floor (Cheerios, crumbs, etc). If the Roomba doesn't get it, my 10-month-old daughter will certainly the next day.

  62. I'm gonna try and hold out by JVert · · Score: 1

    I really want one but if it doesn't go back into its charger on its own, you lose alot of efficiency from the whole idea.

  63. The Promise of AI by amightywind · · Score: 1

    After almost 50 years of research into artificial intelligence what do we have to show for it? A vacuum that can do a random walk. How pathetic. The average set of automobile brakes has more brains than Roomba. For anyone who has seen 2001: A Space Odyssey, the future was supposed to be more interesting than this.

    --
    an ill wind that blows no good
  64. "Pet clause" in warranty? by pierreg0 · · Score: 1

    Does it have a warranty that covers pet-inflicted damage? I imagine that if I didn't keep a constant eye on this thing, my dog would tear it up. It's the ultimate dog toy!

  65. insert obligatory robot joke here.. by aaronvegh · · Score: 1
    ...I for one welcome our new robot vacuuming overlords!

    --
    You can have my one-button mouse when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
  66. Now look here... by GrodinTierce · · Score: 1

    ...all of this Roomba jiggery-pokery is fine, but when it comes to intelligent floor cleaning, nothing beats the RoboSweep.
    Tierce

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    Tierce
    Who sponsors your feelings?
  67. Other missing features by TheOldBear · · Score: 1

    An automated floor cleaner was described in some detail in Heinlein novel

    • The Door into Summer
    Compared to Heinlien's idea, the Roomba is missing

    Auto return to charging station

    auto emptying of dust container

    Avoidance of occupied rooms

    A claw to pick up small, potentially valuable items [change, jewlery] before being sucked into the vacumn

    The claw would be the most difficult to implement [image recognition, design and manipulation of the claw]

    Wet cleaning [spray & squegee] would be nice too, matching the capabilites listed in the book.

    --
    Caution: Do not stare into laser with remaining eye.
    1. Re:Other missing features by child_of_mercy · · Score: 1

      Yes but if we're going to go about replicating Heinlien then why not make me a "Friday" and she can tidy up around the house when she's not busy?

      --
      'There is a Light that never goes out.'
  68. Where the Roomba doesn't work by Sandor+at+the+Zoo · · Score: 1

    We picked up an original Roomba a couple of weeks ago in an Amazon Gold Box special. I shoulda known they'd come out with new models...but we still got a good deal.

    Anyway, we have hardwood floors with oriental rugs. The Roomba does great on the rugs, and on the floor, but at the interface it chokes.

    First, you have to tuck the fringe under the edge of the rugs because the Roomba's rollers will grab them. Fair enough; you have to be careful with a regular vacuum anyway.

    But, our oriental rugs are fairly thick, and we have a foam pad under them which makes them even thicker, so when the Roomba goes from floor to rug, half the time it bounces off instead of climbing up onto the rug.

    Worse yet, there's an 8" gap between the rug and the couch, and the roomba goes into that trench and has serious problems getting out.

    Having said that, using the Roomba in places that it's better suited to is awesome -- set it up, go shopping, come back, and the floor's spotless. It rocks.

  69. PLEASE HELP - CAT STUCK IN ROBO by greymond · · Score: 1

    Ok, well maybe thats not true, but I do have an important question to ask those that own one of these Robo Vacs (whatever they're called) How well do they get along with cats? I currently have a little 1 floor condo that I think this would work well on, but I wouldn't want my cat to get eaten by it well I was away. As well as I wouldn't want my cat to kill $250 worth of gears on my carpet. Any ideas, comments, true stories?

    1. Re:PLEASE HELP - CAT STUCK IN ROBO by sbszine · · Score: 1

      It's supposed to be very noisy, so if your cat is anything like mine I imagine it will flee from the terrifying Roomba and curl up in a different room.

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      Vino, gyno, and techno -Bruce Sterling

  70. Get the Roomba here for a discount... by mlrtime · · Score: 1



    Linen 'n Things has the iRobot Roomba automatic Vacuum cleaner for $199.99 - 20% off code:
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    www.lnt.com = Linen n things

  71. I like my version better by fingerbear · · Score: 1

    Yesterday, I read about these Roomba things and decided I'd only buy one if they were cuter. Here's a Photoshopped version of what I want.

  72. wiFi interference by dgerman · · Score: 1

    The only real issue I have with my Roomba is that I can't sit in the living room while Roomba is vacuuming it and expect to have an Internet wireless connection. Roomba creates enough interference to bring my connection down. On the other side, it is the first time in my life that the spaces under the bed and couch are being vacuumed on a regular basis. Yes, the recharging is a pain in the butt, and I guess a good reason to buy another one (as I usually remember to vacuum the day that I need the house too look clean, and roomba gives up too quickly :(

  73. I read that title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...As "Robot woman gets offspring."

    I really need to sleep.

  74. Yes there is, there are 2 different robots by gear6468 · · Score: 1

    One is Electorlux's model, selling for ~1000-2000 $, i think, the other is Roomba, with 200/230/250 for Roomba/Roomba Pro/Roomba Pro Elite, made by iRobot.