"PPS Killing the organization off entirely is the best way to change the future of Scientology."
I see no violent reference in the above quote. The annihilation of an organization does not involve the death of any humans. If you were to proclaim 'I'd love to kill off the KKK' that does not mean the same thing as 'I'd love to kill off all of the members of the KKK'. And you can not be arrested and incarcerated in a sane world for wishing for the downfall of an organization and even working towards that end. If someone believes christianity is wrong and pickets against it that is their right.
This guy did not make any threats, he was in a forum and within a thread which was making fun of scientology. Last time I checked it wasn't illegal to make fun of a religion.
As for the fact that slashdot is populated by people who wish to see Scientology eradicated, well we have good reason.
Scientologists are well known for their abusive tactics, brainwashing, and even murder of ex-members.
No good has come out of scientology, and much evil has been perpetrated by the cult. There are no redeeming features of scientology, and nothing which makes it valuable to humanity in the least.
Why would we wish to see it continue to blight our cultural landscape?
And guess what, it's perfectly legal for me to wish with every fiber of my being that the Cult of Scientology would vanish from the face of the earth. It's perfectly legal for me to exhort others to speak out against the CoS and it's perfectly legal for me to picket against the CoS.
It's ALSO perfectly legal for me to "threaten" to slay all members of the CoS with my +4 Spork of Mystic Annihilation. So there.
Kintanon
PS. I'm coming after you with my Mystic Spork! Better call a lawyer...
Well, what about my no-budget Kung Fu movie that me and my TKD friends put together and want to spread around to try to get our faces out into the martial arts stunt scene? It's perfectly legal for me to be distributing that movie to anyone and everyone I can get it to. But if all of my avenues of distribution are shut down I have to start either burning my own DVDs to pass out or making my own VHS cassettes, both of which are prohibitively expensive on our current budget. This kind of thing helps people like us who are just trying to get exposure just as much as it hurts the people who already have exposure and are trying to sell their image for money.
Except that I wasn't looking for RPG or Hack and Slash, I was looking for something with a continuous gamestate that could be played on a 6-8 person LAN that would be enjoyed by all of my friends who have quite diverse taste in gameing. D2 has filled that need quite nicely and now we can all stay up until all hours of the night playing it.
And just because something dosn't match your criteria doesn't make it a bad game. I dislike Starcraft quite a bit, but I still recognize that fact that it's a good game for people that like that sort of thing.
How odd, and here I've been playing D2 on the 1.05 patch for the last couple of months and haven't come across a single bug, nor anything that remotely resembles one, unless you count the blood golem/iron maiden combo a bug....
Ahh, so what you are saying is that since this isn't the type of game that you personally enjoy it is automatically dated and boring? Gee, and all this time I had no idea that you were the sole arbiter of game quality on the planet. Remind me to look you up next time I'm going to make a game purchase so I can make sure it lives up to your standards....
The fact that you don't like it doesn't automatically make it a bad game.
Kintanon
Incidentally, I signed up for the Beta about 20 minutes after signups opened. Beating out both Hemos AND neal.
He tried to kill them with RoundUp. They didn't die. He knew which ones to spray therefore he knew which were which (since he wouldn't spary RoundUp on the whole crop). End of story.
So Monsanto has made a form of wheat that can't be killed by the normal weedkiller they guy used, and they are complaining that he didn't get rid of it? What is he supposed to do to remove it?
Shouldn't it be Monsanto's responsibility to make sure their product doesn't distribute itself onto other peoples land and contaminate their crops?
I think the responsiblity in this issue is squarely on monsanto and that they should be forced to pay this guy damages for contaminating his crop.
Although as much as I hate it, its true, the man should be responsible for the plants. He could have destroyed them as soon as he saw them..
If he went to market and tried to sell them, then he's an idiot
Of course, I'd sue the truck and their company for damages.
Step right up folks! See the amazing Husaria who can distinguish the genetic heritage of a wheatstalk ON SIGHT! No fancy labs! No equipment, he just takes a look and Presto! He knows if the wheat is the genetic property of Monsanto or is just a regular non engineered wheat stalk like the other hundred million on the farm! Amazing eh?
But what are the farmers without your amazing talent supposed to do to distinguish engineered wheat from regular wheat? Unless the engineered wheat shows up some bizarre color or has 'Monsanto' imprinted on the stalk in big letters I doubt most people can tell them apart on sight.
How can poor Percy know if a seed is mutated or not? Ok, when it's obvious from the outside, then it's a no-brainer, but most modifications in plants are not visible from the outside. So a farmer has to DNA test all weedplants on his acres if there is SOMEHWERE a plant grown from a foreign seed? Yeah, that will be good for the world food economy! Can I borrow $100? I'd like to buy some bread.
The guy should take an armload of regular wheat and to or 3 gen engineered wheat stalks into the court room, dump it on the judges desk, and tell him to pick out the engineered stalks.
That should get him off the hook pretty quick.
So what's your idea of a "party" snagging a Keg and drinking until you can't stand up? You act like any other group of people has a better way to socially interact. Human contact is human contact, and whether it comes in the form of me screaming 'Eat Rockets Bitchboy!!' at my little brother while I blast him off of 'the longest yard' or in the form of 4 or 5 buddies getting drunk with their girlfriends at someones house you can't tell me that either of those is a totally invalid form of contact. People do the things they enjoy, there is nothing wrong with that. So yank your head out of your ass and look around, not everyone likes what you like.
Kintanon
BTW, I'm posting all of this stuff because I don't give a fuck about moderation, I stopped posting when I stopped being able to gain Karma because it was already hard enough to add to what little conversation their was and with the incentive to post intelligent thought gone I started lurking. The quality of discussion didn't really change after moderation stopped except that a few of the most prolific people stopped posting as much. So Moderate me 6 ways from sunday, I don't care! I have karma flowing out my ass.
Because poor people stink and are rude and have pretty much no interest in learning anything that doesn't involve them getting fed immediately. Also I have no desire to devote my life to making someone elses life better, I prefer to make my own life better. If they can't improve themselves well then that's not really my problem. All kinds of people grow up with less than I have and do just fine, equal numbers grow up with as much or more and also do fine. The amount of material posessions you have does not determine your ability to succede. So Everyone needs to stop bitching at people to 'help the poor', what we really should do is sterilize everyone that comes into a soup kitchen or homeless shelter, that would thin the ranks of the poor and homeless pretty quick. And while we're at it sterilize everyone on welfare who already has a child. If they only have 1 maybe they will devote enough time to the kid so that he or she will have some kind of drive to do well. And while we're at it, we need some public school reform. Take money out of various welfare programs and use it to repair the inner city schools that are falling apart and to buy books for the classes.
But me NOT going to a LAN party isn't going to accomplish any of these things. It's a matter of government redistribution and how crappy it is, which doesn't seem to be changing any time soon. So instead of bugging me about it, why don't you go write a letter to your senator, your congressman, and the president. If you aren't USian then write to your equivelant representatives.
Sure, I'll pick it up from my parents house tonight and post the author. There is a small chance that I misremembered the name and it's 'A' for Anything, but I was pretty sure I remember it as being an odd title because it didn't match up.
Good question. I don't think the book ever addressed the point of Land ownership at all...
And it didn't really occure to me until you mentioned it that Land really should be the most valuable item in a society like that... I think I'll reread the book tommorow and see if they mentioned it while I wasn't paying attention.
This reminds me of a book called "'A' For Everything" where an inventor created a duplicating device. You put the object you want duplicated on one side, and press a button, and a copy comes out on the other side. Within hours almost everyone had one. Within days the economy had reverted to Slaves being the only valuable form of property. From there people figured out how to clone other people using the device and a bizarre slave/owner hierarchy was born. A very interesting book, I recommend it to everyone.
No, he's saying that it would be impossible to design/manufacture a modern computer without the help of existing computers.
Which is completely beside the point. The question didn't have anything to do with modern computers. It was a question about how we would design differently if we could go back to the beginning with the knowledge we have now. IPv6 implemented from the ground up, firewire on everything, etc... etc... What if we could redesign the whole system with the knowledge to avoid the current pitfalls? What would we end up with....?
But that's just my point. In order to create blueprints, manufacturing facilities, infrastructure and the chips/computers themselves, the scientists NEED computers.
Hrmmm... So what you're saying is that computers can't exist because there is no way someone could have built/designed a computer without having a computer? I'm pretty sure there's a flaw in that position somewhere... if I could just put my finger on it....>:)
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Can you think of anything better for them to do with all of they money they have? I imagine most of them have been down the 'feed the hungry' path before, probably done the 'cure a major disease' thing too, so why not 'spread humanity to the stars' as this months charity event?
Personally I am eagerly awaiting the first incident in which someone is stabbed with a regular, plain, number 2 pencil. So we can watch the schools react to that. They can't very well ban regular #2 pencils. They've already banned mechanical pencils and in some cases pens because the casing can be used to build some rather fierce projectile weapons. Are we going to be reduced to doing our HS homework in Crayon?
Interesting thing about Zyban, it was originally, and still is, proscribed as an anti-depressant and as an alternative to ritalin for ADDers under the name Wellbutrin. And it costs about half as much under that name as it does under the name Zyban. It also can cause siezures if you've had siezures before. Overall it seems to be pretty effective, my wife just started on it and it seems to be doing her a world of good.
Ok, wasn't it recently ruled that you couldn't buy and sell Domain names like realestate? If so, would the same thing apply to Trademarks or any similar concept? And if not, what is the legal difference between the two? Why would one not be able to register a bunch of trademarks and then offer to sell them like realestate? Why not for domain names? Maybe I'm just feeble minded, but I don't see an appreciable difference between the two concepts.
I wonder... it seems like a very nifty idea, but I don't think these smart morphing robot appliances will be a practicality, not for a long, long time, perhaps not ever. Even if the robots can be made to intelligently morph themselves into an appropriate form for the job at hand, without "real" AI, they'll be incapable of any useful work. At best, they'll need constant supervision (do I really want my lawnmower to blithely slash through power lines, my garden hose, the flower bed, or my neighbour's garden?) And AI of the sort necessary for all but the simplest jobs is still very far off. Especially the sort of generic, non-specialized intelligence that would be required for this type of multi-purpose appliance.
I think the true commercial application for this technology beyond the benefits to military and scientific equipment will be the Multi-Shovel or some such thing. You have a little grey box, it has on it a panel with some selection mechanism. You can choose 'Rake', 'Shovel', 'Hoe', 'Hedge Clippers', 'Post Hole Digger', etc... And then you watch as the little thing constructs from pre defined plans the selected item.
That way you just spend 1500$ for this one item and it can act as a few dozen different tools. You could get updates to the plans to have it become new stuff, and you could increase or decrease the mass of the cube to have it make smaller or larger items by adding or removing blocks of the little bots.
I know this isn't doable now, but I think this technology might head in that direction for home use once it makes it down that far.
I was a Telemarketer for 3 months. I enjoyed it, the pay was good, and the more weird calls or ranting people I got the better. If someone had a good line to screw with me for a while it made my night interesting. I loved getting snappy comebacks before a hangup or anything out of the ordinary. So please, do Telemarketers a favor when they call you late at night, don't just hang up on them, say something witty or obscene THEN hang up on them. It actually does make the night more amusing.
In order to conserve power please leave your computers turned on. The biggest power draw from your machine is when you turn everything on and all of the drives spin up at once and everything. Just turn the monitor off and put the machine to sleep instead of turning it all the way off.>:)
Oh, and if anyone has any evidence that this is NOT the case, let me know. Because it's what I've always heard and it has proven true in my casual everyday usage of the theory.
Because your situation has changed since you've had a child. Maybe your spouse has died, been incarcerated, or left you to fend for yourself. Maybe the working spouse has been laid off and now can't find a job making more than half of what he/she did before, so in order to make up the difference, the spouse who was staying home needs to get a job.
Be aware that there are a lot of situations to consider. If you were in a situation where you were capable of being a parent, and then your situation changes, you can't go back and unhave the kids.
And these people don't have families? No retired grandmother to help out? I may be far from the norm, but I have a huge extended family. I've been helping raise my little cousins for so long I have no desire to have my own kids! Whenever my mom needed some help with me and my brother she could call one of her sisters, or her mother, or my dads mother. What happened to the american extended family?
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"PPS Killing the organization off entirely is the best way to change the future of Scientology."
I see no violent reference in the above quote. The annihilation of an organization does not involve the death of any humans. If you were to proclaim 'I'd love to kill off the KKK' that does not mean the same thing as 'I'd love to kill off all of the members of the KKK'. And you can not be arrested and incarcerated in a sane world for wishing for the downfall of an organization and even working towards that end. If someone believes christianity is wrong and pickets against it that is their right.
This guy did not make any threats, he was in a forum and within a thread which was making fun of scientology. Last time I checked it wasn't illegal to make fun of a religion.
As for the fact that slashdot is populated by people who wish to see Scientology eradicated, well we have good reason.
Scientologists are well known for their abusive tactics, brainwashing, and even murder of ex-members.
No good has come out of scientology, and much evil has been perpetrated by the cult. There are no redeeming features of scientology, and nothing which makes it valuable to humanity in the least.
Why would we wish to see it continue to blight our cultural landscape?
And guess what, it's perfectly legal for me to wish with every fiber of my being that the Cult of Scientology would vanish from the face of the earth. It's perfectly legal for me to exhort others to speak out against the CoS and it's perfectly legal for me to picket against the CoS.
It's ALSO perfectly legal for me to "threaten" to slay all members of the CoS with my +4 Spork of Mystic Annihilation. So there.
Kintanon
PS. I'm coming after you with my Mystic Spork! Better call a lawyer...
Well, what about my no-budget Kung Fu movie that me and my TKD friends put together and want to spread around to try to get our faces out into the martial arts stunt scene? It's perfectly legal for me to be distributing that movie to anyone and everyone I can get it to. But if all of my avenues of distribution are shut down I have to start either burning my own DVDs to pass out or making my own VHS cassettes, both of which are prohibitively expensive on our current budget. This kind of thing helps people like us who are just trying to get exposure just as much as it hurts the people who already have exposure and are trying to sell their image for money.
Kintanon
Except that I wasn't looking for RPG or Hack and Slash, I was looking for something with a continuous gamestate that could be played on a 6-8 person LAN that would be enjoyed by all of my friends who have quite diverse taste in gameing. D2 has filled that need quite nicely and now we can all stay up until all hours of the night playing it.
And just because something dosn't match your criteria doesn't make it a bad game. I dislike Starcraft quite a bit, but I still recognize that fact that it's a good game for people that like that sort of thing.
Kintanon
How odd, and here I've been playing D2 on the 1.05 patch for the last couple of months and haven't come across a single bug, nor anything that remotely resembles one, unless you count the blood golem/iron maiden combo a bug....
Kintanon
Ahh, so what you are saying is that since this isn't the type of game that you personally enjoy it is automatically dated and boring? Gee, and all this time I had no idea that you were the sole arbiter of game quality on the planet. Remind me to look you up next time I'm going to make a game purchase so I can make sure it lives up to your standards....
The fact that you don't like it doesn't automatically make it a bad game.
Kintanon
Incidentally, I signed up for the Beta about 20 minutes after signups opened. Beating out both Hemos AND neal.
He tried to kill them with RoundUp. They didn't die. He knew which ones to spray therefore he knew which were which (since he wouldn't spary RoundUp on the whole crop). End of story.
So Monsanto has made a form of wheat that can't be killed by the normal weedkiller they guy used, and they are complaining that he didn't get rid of it? What is he supposed to do to remove it?
Shouldn't it be Monsanto's responsibility to make sure their product doesn't distribute itself onto other peoples land and contaminate their crops?
I think the responsiblity in this issue is squarely on monsanto and that they should be forced to pay this guy damages for contaminating his crop.
Kintanon
Although as much as I hate it, its true, the man should be responsible for the plants. He could have destroyed them as soon as he saw them..
If he went to market and tried to sell them, then he's an idiot
Of course, I'd sue the truck and their company for damages.
Step right up folks! See the amazing Husaria who can distinguish the genetic heritage of a wheatstalk ON SIGHT! No fancy labs! No equipment, he just takes a look and Presto! He knows if the wheat is the genetic property of Monsanto or is just a regular non engineered wheat stalk like the other hundred million on the farm! Amazing eh?
But what are the farmers without your amazing talent supposed to do to distinguish engineered wheat from regular wheat? Unless the engineered wheat shows up some bizarre color or has 'Monsanto' imprinted on the stalk in big letters I doubt most people can tell them apart on sight.
Kintanon
How can poor Percy know if a seed is mutated or not? Ok, when it's obvious from the outside, then it's a no-brainer, but most modifications in plants are not visible from the outside. So a farmer has to DNA test all weedplants on his acres if there is SOMEHWERE a plant grown from a foreign seed? Yeah, that will be good for the world food economy! Can I borrow $100? I'd like to buy some bread.
The guy should take an armload of regular wheat and to or 3 gen engineered wheat stalks into the court room, dump it on the judges desk, and tell him to pick out the engineered stalks.
That should get him off the hook pretty quick.
Kintanon
So what's your idea of a "party" snagging a Keg and drinking until you can't stand up? You act like any other group of people has a better way to socially interact. Human contact is human contact, and whether it comes in the form of me screaming 'Eat Rockets Bitchboy!!' at my little brother while I blast him off of 'the longest yard' or in the form of 4 or 5 buddies getting drunk with their girlfriends at someones house you can't tell me that either of those is a totally invalid form of contact. People do the things they enjoy, there is nothing wrong with that. So yank your head out of your ass and look around, not everyone likes what you like.
Kintanon
BTW, I'm posting all of this stuff because I don't give a fuck about moderation, I stopped posting when I stopped being able to gain Karma because it was already hard enough to add to what little conversation their was and with the incentive to post intelligent thought gone I started lurking. The quality of discussion didn't really change after moderation stopped except that a few of the most prolific people stopped posting as much. So Moderate me 6 ways from sunday, I don't care! I have karma flowing out my ass.
Ok, I'll admit that. I just put that line in to be marked as flamebait or a troll. If I had left it out I'd probably be moderated up as insightful.
Kintanon
Because poor people stink and are rude and have pretty much no interest in learning anything that doesn't involve them getting fed immediately. Also I have no desire to devote my life to making someone elses life better, I prefer to make my own life better. If they can't improve themselves well then that's not really my problem. All kinds of people grow up with less than I have and do just fine, equal numbers grow up with as much or more and also do fine. The amount of material posessions you have does not determine your ability to succede. So Everyone needs to stop bitching at people to 'help the poor', what we really should do is sterilize everyone that comes into a soup kitchen or homeless shelter, that would thin the ranks of the poor and homeless pretty quick. And while we're at it sterilize everyone on welfare who already has a child. If they only have 1 maybe they will devote enough time to the kid so that he or she will have some kind of drive to do well. And while we're at it, we need some public school reform. Take money out of various welfare programs and use it to repair the inner city schools that are falling apart and to buy books for the classes.
But me NOT going to a LAN party isn't going to accomplish any of these things. It's a matter of government redistribution and how crappy it is, which doesn't seem to be changing any time soon. So instead of bugging me about it, why don't you go write a letter to your senator, your congressman, and the president. If you aren't USian then write to your equivelant representatives.
Kintanon
Sure, I'll pick it up from my parents house tonight and post the author. There is a small chance that I misremembered the name and it's 'A' for Anything, but I was pretty sure I remember it as being an odd title because it didn't match up.
Kintanon
Good question. I don't think the book ever addressed the point of Land ownership at all...
And it didn't really occure to me until you mentioned it that Land really should be the most valuable item in a society like that... I think I'll reread the book tommorow and see if they mentioned it while I wasn't paying attention.
Kintanon
This reminds me of a book called "'A' For Everything" where an inventor created a duplicating device. You put the object you want duplicated on one side, and press a button, and a copy comes out on the other side. Within hours almost everyone had one. Within days the economy had reverted to Slaves being the only valuable form of property. From there people figured out how to clone other people using the device and a bizarre slave/owner hierarchy was born. A very interesting book, I recommend it to everyone.
Kintanon
No, he's saying that it would be impossible to design/manufacture a modern computer without the help of existing computers.
Which is completely beside the point. The question didn't have anything to do with modern computers. It was a question about how we would design differently if we could go back to the beginning with the knowledge we have now. IPv6 implemented from the ground up, firewire on everything, etc... etc... What if we could redesign the whole system with the knowledge to avoid the current pitfalls? What would we end up with....?
Kintanon
Shouldn't it really be Micro$of~1?
Kintanon
But that's just my point. In order to create blueprints, manufacturing facilities, infrastructure and the chips/computers themselves, the scientists NEED computers.
Hrmmm... So what you're saying is that computers can't exist because there is no way someone could have built/designed a computer without having a computer? I'm pretty sure there's a flaw in that position somewhere... if I could just put my finger on it....>:)
Kintanon
Can you think of anything better for them to do with all of they money they have? I imagine most of them have been down the 'feed the hungry' path before, probably done the 'cure a major disease' thing too, so why not 'spread humanity to the stars' as this months charity event?
Kintanon
Personally I am eagerly awaiting the first incident in which someone is stabbed with a regular, plain, number 2 pencil. So we can watch the schools react to that. They can't very well ban regular #2 pencils. They've already banned mechanical pencils and in some cases pens because the casing can be used to build some rather fierce projectile weapons. Are we going to be reduced to doing our HS homework in Crayon?
Kintanon
Interesting thing about Zyban, it was originally, and still is, proscribed as an anti-depressant and as an alternative to ritalin for ADDers under the name Wellbutrin. And it costs about half as much under that name as it does under the name Zyban. It also can cause siezures if you've had siezures before. Overall it seems to be pretty effective, my wife just started on it and it seems to be doing her a world of good.
Kintanon
Ok, wasn't it recently ruled that you couldn't buy and sell Domain names like realestate? If so, would the same thing apply to Trademarks or any similar concept? And if not, what is the legal difference between the two? Why would one not be able to register a bunch of trademarks and then offer to sell them like realestate? Why not for domain names? Maybe I'm just feeble minded, but I don't see an appreciable difference between the two concepts.
Kintanon
I wonder... it seems like a very nifty idea, but I don't think these smart morphing robot appliances will be a practicality, not for a long, long time, perhaps not ever. Even if the robots can be made to intelligently morph themselves into an appropriate form for the job at hand, without "real" AI, they'll be incapable of any useful work. At best, they'll need constant supervision (do I really want my lawnmower to blithely slash through power lines, my garden hose, the flower bed, or my neighbour's garden?) And AI of the sort necessary for all but the simplest jobs is still very far off. Especially the sort of generic, non-specialized intelligence that would be required for this type of multi-purpose appliance.
I think the true commercial application for this technology beyond the benefits to military and scientific equipment will be the Multi-Shovel or some such thing. You have a little grey box, it has on it a panel with some selection mechanism. You can choose 'Rake', 'Shovel', 'Hoe', 'Hedge Clippers', 'Post Hole Digger', etc... And then you watch as the little thing constructs from pre defined plans the selected item.
That way you just spend 1500$ for this one item and it can act as a few dozen different tools. You could get updates to the plans to have it become new stuff, and you could increase or decrease the mass of the cube to have it make smaller or larger items by adding or removing blocks of the little bots.
I know this isn't doable now, but I think this technology might head in that direction for home use once it makes it down that far.
Kintanon
I was a Telemarketer for 3 months. I enjoyed it, the pay was good, and the more weird calls or ranting people I got the better. If someone had a good line to screw with me for a while it made my night interesting. I loved getting snappy comebacks before a hangup or anything out of the ordinary. So please, do Telemarketers a favor when they call you late at night, don't just hang up on them, say something witty or obscene THEN hang up on them. It actually does make the night more amusing.
Kintanon
In order to conserve power please leave your computers turned on. The biggest power draw from your machine is when you turn everything on and all of the drives spin up at once and everything. Just turn the monitor off and put the machine to sleep instead of turning it all the way off.>:)
Oh, and if anyone has any evidence that this is NOT the case, let me know. Because it's what I've always heard and it has proven true in my casual everyday usage of the theory.
Kintanon
Because your situation has changed since you've had a child. Maybe your spouse has died, been incarcerated, or left you to fend for yourself. Maybe the working spouse has been laid off and now can't find a job making more than half of what he/she did before, so in order to make up the difference, the spouse who was staying home needs to get a job.
Be aware that there are a lot of situations to consider. If you were in a situation where you were capable of being a parent, and then your situation changes, you can't go back and unhave the kids.
And these people don't have families? No retired grandmother to help out? I may be far from the norm, but I have a huge extended family. I've been helping raise my little cousins for so long I have no desire to have my own kids! Whenever my mom needed some help with me and my brother she could call one of her sisters, or her mother, or my dads mother. What happened to the american extended family?
Kintanon