So the three-letter-agencies and the local yokels will have to just continue using parallel construction. Isn't it amazing how many detailed and accurate "anonymous tips" the police receive?
You're fucking joking, right? I wouldn't have a car programmed by someone else to do who-knows-what if you paid me to use it.
Software glitches and shitty programming are fine on computers, hell, they keep me in a paycheck. But hurtling down the highway at high speeds with steel and glass all around me? No thanks.
You must be one of those mentally ill "transhumanists" or something, that somehow think machines programmed by humans are somehow more capable than humans themselves.
Expect it to be indexed and viewable at will by the United States or just about any other modern Western government. It doesn't matter if it's "archived" there or not, it's archived there. Once it hits a server and gets replicated for backups and redundancy, it exists forever. Deletion does nothing. A log is kept (even if it's just in the backups) of every email, chat, IM, SMS, etc. you've ever sent or received. You can bet on it.
If someone is interfering with a licensed station, why doesn't the FCC investigate the source of the interference? In the old days, if you were being a nuisance to a licensed station, you were in for a world of hurt if being intentionally malicious. At the bare minimum, and idiot user would have had their equipment confiscated for being clueless.
Is it too hard for them to actually go out and do the one thing they unquestionably have the authority to do? Or is this just another power grab by the FCC and the administration to quash tech freedom wherever they see fit in the name of "safety".
Swimming pools are used for recreation, to relax after a hard day at work, to provide some entertainment on the weekend and can be beautiful just to look at.
Guns are used only for racist white people to kill brown people with and are scary, haven't you been keeping up with the media's narrative?? (sarcasm off)
Never mind that the vast, vast majority of guns are never used in a crime, gun deaths are nearly half the level that they were in 1990, and that a large swath of the population use guns for hunting, sport, self-defense, protection in the wilderness, provide entertainment for people, and are collectible and can be beautiful just like anything anyone as a hobbyist may collect or be an aficionado of.
And that passing laws to ban something means that only people who don't care about the law will possess that item. But don't worry about all that, guns still have to be banned and stuff. For The Children(tm), remember. Are you a terrorist?
Besides, swimming pools will be on the list soon enough. I'm sure somewhere down on the list of recreational activities or items people enjoy, some nanny-stater has swimming pools on the roll of things to be banned from the common unwashed masses. We just have to wait for them to manage to take everything deemed more important away first. I really wish these control freaks would just go away already. It's really getting tiring having to hear their incessant childish bleating about guns all fucking day long.
If they think it's so scary to have guns in the hands of the citizenry, why don't they just move to the any number of wonderful gun-free utopias that they trot out every time this discussion comes up? Oh yeah, that's right. Because most of those places are shitholes, have violent crime problems of their own, and it's really not about safety or children or any of that drivel, it's about taking something away from someone else for their own good, because of course, they always know best!
Just like every meatspace annoyance turned into public hyperventilation when translated into computer annoyances, now every regular computer annoyance means public hyperventilation when translated into mobile annoyances.
Even for slashdot, calling this an "exploit" is a fucking stretch. But oh yeah, fuck Apple or something...
I love it! Volkswagen should just say "We didn't do it." Then sue whoever produces their code for reverse-engineering it. Then they can claim whatever "black-hat hacker" did it added the offending code to frame them. Prove otherwise without breaking the law!
Yeah, I'm not sure what everyone's so outraged about. I've never in my life considered buying a German car (I prefer Japanese), but after seeing VW give a big old middle finger to the dog-and-pony show that we call passenger vehicle emission regulations, I'll be giving them a second look.
I see this whole thing being "Good-Guy VW" myself.
Nothing more than another back room deal to keep the car dealerships and mechanics happy. It's 100% a tax on the poor, and something everyone should be against. Of course the average Slashdotter probably has a decent enough job to afford a new car every few years or to be able to properly repair their car when it breaks down. But what about those who work 2-3 part time jobs and drive a 15-20 year old beater with 250,000 miles that isn't worth $1000 but gets them to work and back every day to feed their kids?
Uh-oh! The check engine light came on, and the car needs sensors and this and that and the other and hit-or-miss trips to the mechanic in hopes they might actually be able to fix it and keep the light off long enough to get the test done. Repeat every couple years with whatever beater can be afforded. That could be the difference between the rent being paid and the kids eating food. Or a ticket for driving with expired tags, or not driving at all, losing their job, having their children taken away, and end up on the streets.
I've seriously known someone who had a perfectly good working car that needed some kind of sensors that were going to cost $1000 to fix. The car probably wasn't worth half that, but ran fine and got them where they needed to go. They had to keep driving the car after the test was due, and got pulled over enough times with expired tags to have the car impounded, lost their job, then lost their apartment and almost ended up homeless except I helped them get back on their feet. But score one for progressivism, a car that was probably generating minimal extra emissions was taken off the streets! The human cost be damned, we must save the EARTH!!!
It's tiring to think about, but the whole thing is a complete joke anyway, is one more thing that doesn't affect people with money, takes lots of perfectly good running cars off the road to have to be replaced with new ones (carbon footprint anyone?) just like the cash for clunkers scam that was just a bone thrown to automakers and had nothing to do with "pollution", and literally the next county over (as well as another state that is just one more county over) doesn't have to pass any form of smog test so people with relatives or addresses in those places just game the system and register them there. Not to mention all the cars in those places that are probably polluting, and you realize what a sham the whole system is.
Emission tests should be banned completely and anyone who supports them is supporting one more way to screw the poor and institute the "green police" at the expense of the working man, and should be ashamed of themselves.
I know if I was a journalist doing some "juicy expose" on, for example, Verizon or AT&T here in the good old US-of-A, I'd surely be using my T-Mobile line for any communication with a whistleblower. Even if that T-Mobile line was 100% traceable back to me, it would remove the ability for the company I'm exposing to see who I was talking to, at least directly.
Using a company's own services to communicate with internal employees who are leaking sensitive data is just plain dumb regardless of whether there are legal anonymous forms of communication available or not.
Even as much as I disagree with even bricking stolen equipment (it's extremely wasteful in many regards to make perfectly usable equipment unusable), I do understand the sentiment behind why it would be a good thing to do.
However, tracking stolen devices at coffee shops and public Wi-Fi? How could anything possibly go wrong?
Step 1. Give your "enemy" (or whoever) a new iPhone and a $10 Starbucks giftcard. Step 2. Report device stolen to local police and/or otherwise have it added to the naughty database Step 3. Said innocent person or person you (or the powers that be) deem undesirable is arrested for possessing stolen property, or at the very least detained. Step 4. Profit??
Not worth remembering AT ALL. The full force and credit of the mainstream media is NEVER used to discredit people working on projects that might cause embarrassment to the establishment, or worse find simple root-cause explanations for ailments that could have their symptoms managed with expensive drugs. Never, ever. Your example is the one and only time one of these crackpot, terrorist, conspiracy-theorist, tinfoil-hat frauds has ever been proven right.
sarcasm off
It's definitely worth remembering, and just think about how many people looking for the truth have been silenced or worse because they went up against the status quo. I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that the SA article from the 80s even had some form of the verbiage "the science is settled".
Translation: "I don't like a certain group of people. Even though they aren't breaking any laws, mother government MAKE THEM STOP!! WAAHHHHH MOMMY!!!!"
While I certainly agree that those guys are a bunch of jaggers, they're also mostly harmless losers who don't hurt anything. If you can't tell the difference between those jokers and a real cop, get out of the gene pool. You know what I hate, though, for real? Assholes who want the government to "whack" people who are not breaking the law but merely mildly annoying to them.
Life Tip: You can "think" you're entitled to do whatever you want. Plenty of people live in dreamland. Actually acting upon it is where the whacking should start. If a guy wants to drive around in an old cop car and think he's something other than a washed up loser from a trailer park, that's his opinion. It's a free country. If he tries to tell me what to do, then we'll see who's right and who's wrong.
Plus, many hams aren't this kind of asshole and are valuable assets during times of emergency.
I'm all for jumping on the good, old-fashioned Comcast hate train when it's deserved (like my increasingly saturated 105M cable connection that struggles to provide 50-60 during peak periods), but please explain to me how someone running the Xfinity hotspot on their router makes them have a "really vulnerable wifi connection"?
There are two separate networks being broadcast from the access point. One, which connects to the customer's LAN, is available for the owner to use at full speed. The other, which does not connect to the internal LAN, only to the outside world, and is rate limited to ensure full performance of the customer's provisioned speed and is available to outside users. Outside users must authenticate using their Xfinity credentials to connect. These credentials are logged, so if any nefarious activity originates from the connection it will be attributed to it's rightful owner.
The internal network is still password protected (well, as protected as any wireless network can be, I suppose) so no one will be connecting to your private network.
I agree that the Xfinity hotspot should be opt-in because it uses electricity and adds extra RF to what is usually an already noisy spectrum band, but this in no way, shape, or form, makes your wifi connection "really vulnerable". No more vulnerable that wifi already is, anyway. Stop fear-mongering.
Essentially the argument against free, anonymous speech is that people will show the world exactly how they feel deep down inside. They won't filter, they won't self-censor, they won't be politically correct. And that's A Bad Thing(tm) according to the powers that be, so we have to shut it down. What a cowardly fucking attitude to have.
Grow a fucking set and learn to deal with criticism. Some people don't like me for whatever reason. A few even probably HATE me. And that's absolutely their right to do so. In fact, it's a pillar of free society to be able to have whatever opinions you like, whether or not it hurts someone's feelings, or (gasp!) makes someone uncomfortable or shatters the fragile little ego of some useless millennial* leech who can't attain respect on their own merits so they have to demand respect from society through the control of thought and language to protect themselves from the truth.
I think pure, unadulterated, uncensored, open speech is the most beautiful thing in the world. As hateful or unpopular as much of that speech is, it's how someone really feels and that person deserves to have their say just as much as any special snowflake or "safe space" dweller. In fact those snowflakes are the majority amongst the millennials of my generation due to their narcissistic addiction to social media and their tendency to be "followers". Where are the safe spaces for the minority of us who can still think critically and for ourselves, peer pressure and popular opinion be damned?
And if comment sections are so overrun with said incorrect thoughts, you have to wonder if maybe the people censoring them are the ones that are "incorrect".
Every Verizon SMARTPHONE (did you even read the TITLE of the post?) being sold today has a SIM slot.
And no one ever said buying outright would historically (it will now) lead to a lower monthly bill. I said that you were always paying full price for the phone whether you were stupid enough to do it outright or take the subsidy which is what anyone with half a brain always did.
All modern Verizon LTE smartphones (2011+ or so) have been fully compatible with GSM/UMTS networks for years now. And yes, they're completely unlocked and can be used on any carrier worldwide. You are aware that LTE is a GSM-based standard, aren't you? And that Verizon uses SIM cards even for authentication to their CDMA network, right? And that Verizon phones are some of the MOST compatible phones on the market since they can be used on any GSM carrier for at least HSPA level connectivity AND Verizon, too? And that a modern Verizon LTE smartphone s fully compatible with the majority of T-Mobile's LTE service and can work fully on their network in most areas?
And even that you were paying "full price" for the phone even way back when Verizon was strictly an IS-95 CDMA network. It was baked into the cost of the service and was enforced through the 2-year contract. You did know that as well, didn't you?
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So the three-letter-agencies and the local yokels will have to just continue using parallel construction. Isn't it amazing how many detailed and accurate "anonymous tips" the police receive?
Will you give us a break with that shit?
You're fucking joking, right? I wouldn't have a car programmed by someone else to do who-knows-what if you paid me to use it.
Software glitches and shitty programming are fine on computers, hell, they keep me in a paycheck. But hurtling down the highway at high speeds with steel and glass all around me? No thanks.
You must be one of those mentally ill "transhumanists" or something, that somehow think machines programmed by humans are somehow more capable than humans themselves.
Fuck you.
How eloquently you have rebutted the GP's argument. Bravo, sir. Bravo.
Regardless, weather isn't climate, so fuck both of you.
Too little, yes, but it's never too late to stop being a Chrome clone and go back to the roots of a reliable browser.
Expect it to be indexed and viewable at will by the United States or just about any other modern Western government. It doesn't matter if it's "archived" there or not, it's archived there. Once it hits a server and gets replicated for backups and redundancy, it exists forever. Deletion does nothing. A log is kept (even if it's just in the backups) of every email, chat, IM, SMS, etc. you've ever sent or received. You can bet on it.
*looks over shoulder*
"Google. Is. The. Most. Ethical. Organization. In. The. World."
*looks back over shoulder*
Thank goodness they're gone.
So much fail.
[citation needed]
If someone is interfering with a licensed station, why doesn't the FCC investigate the source of the interference? In the old days, if you were being a nuisance to a licensed station, you were in for a world of hurt if being intentionally malicious. At the bare minimum, and idiot user would have had their equipment confiscated for being clueless.
Is it too hard for them to actually go out and do the one thing they unquestionably have the authority to do? Or is this just another power grab by the FCC and the administration to quash tech freedom wherever they see fit in the name of "safety".
Swimming pools are used for recreation, to relax after a hard day at work, to provide some entertainment on the weekend and can be beautiful just to look at.
Guns are used only for racist white people to kill brown people with and are scary, haven't you been keeping up with the media's narrative?? (sarcasm off)
Never mind that the vast, vast majority of guns are never used in a crime, gun deaths are nearly half the level that they were in 1990, and that a large swath of the population use guns for hunting, sport, self-defense, protection in the wilderness, provide entertainment for people, and are collectible and can be beautiful just like anything anyone as a hobbyist may collect or be an aficionado of.
And that passing laws to ban something means that only people who don't care about the law will possess that item. But don't worry about all that, guns still have to be banned and stuff. For The Children(tm), remember. Are you a terrorist?
Besides, swimming pools will be on the list soon enough. I'm sure somewhere down on the list of recreational activities or items people enjoy, some nanny-stater has swimming pools on the roll of things to be banned from the common unwashed masses. We just have to wait for them to manage to take everything deemed more important away first. I really wish these control freaks would just go away already. It's really getting tiring having to hear their incessant childish bleating about guns all fucking day long.
If they think it's so scary to have guns in the hands of the citizenry, why don't they just move to the any number of wonderful gun-free utopias that they trot out every time this discussion comes up? Oh yeah, that's right. Because most of those places are shitholes, have violent crime problems of their own, and it's really not about safety or children or any of that drivel, it's about taking something away from someone else for their own good, because of course, they always know best!
Translation: "I don't like people who are different from me, and they're scary! All our problems are Their Fault(tm)!"
It's not.
Just like every meatspace annoyance turned into public hyperventilation when translated into computer annoyances, now every regular computer annoyance means public hyperventilation when translated into mobile annoyances.
Even for slashdot, calling this an "exploit" is a fucking stretch. But oh yeah, fuck Apple or something...
I love it! Volkswagen should just say "We didn't do it." Then sue whoever produces their code for reverse-engineering it. Then they can claim whatever "black-hat hacker" did it added the offending code to frame them. Prove otherwise without breaking the law!
Yeah, I'm not sure what everyone's so outraged about. I've never in my life considered buying a German car (I prefer Japanese), but after seeing VW give a big old middle finger to the dog-and-pony show that we call passenger vehicle emission regulations, I'll be giving them a second look.
I see this whole thing being "Good-Guy VW" myself.
Nothing more than another back room deal to keep the car dealerships and mechanics happy. It's 100% a tax on the poor, and something everyone should be against. Of course the average Slashdotter probably has a decent enough job to afford a new car every few years or to be able to properly repair their car when it breaks down. But what about those who work 2-3 part time jobs and drive a 15-20 year old beater with 250,000 miles that isn't worth $1000 but gets them to work and back every day to feed their kids?
Uh-oh! The check engine light came on, and the car needs sensors and this and that and the other and hit-or-miss trips to the mechanic in hopes they might actually be able to fix it and keep the light off long enough to get the test done. Repeat every couple years with whatever beater can be afforded. That could be the difference between the rent being paid and the kids eating food. Or a ticket for driving with expired tags, or not driving at all, losing their job, having their children taken away, and end up on the streets.
I've seriously known someone who had a perfectly good working car that needed some kind of sensors that were going to cost $1000 to fix. The car probably wasn't worth half that, but ran fine and got them where they needed to go. They had to keep driving the car after the test was due, and got pulled over enough times with expired tags to have the car impounded, lost their job, then lost their apartment and almost ended up homeless except I helped them get back on their feet. But score one for progressivism, a car that was probably generating minimal extra emissions was taken off the streets! The human cost be damned, we must save the EARTH!!!
It's tiring to think about, but the whole thing is a complete joke anyway, is one more thing that doesn't affect people with money, takes lots of perfectly good running cars off the road to have to be replaced with new ones (carbon footprint anyone?) just like the cash for clunkers scam that was just a bone thrown to automakers and had nothing to do with "pollution", and literally the next county over (as well as another state that is just one more county over) doesn't have to pass any form of smog test so people with relatives or addresses in those places just game the system and register them there. Not to mention all the cars in those places that are probably polluting, and you realize what a sham the whole system is.
Emission tests should be banned completely and anyone who supports them is supporting one more way to screw the poor and institute the "green police" at the expense of the working man, and should be ashamed of themselves.
Or, I don't know, just not use Vodafone?
I know if I was a journalist doing some "juicy expose" on, for example, Verizon or AT&T here in the good old US-of-A, I'd surely be using my T-Mobile line for any communication with a whistleblower. Even if that T-Mobile line was 100% traceable back to me, it would remove the ability for the company I'm exposing to see who I was talking to, at least directly.
Using a company's own services to communicate with internal employees who are leaking sensitive data is just plain dumb regardless of whether there are legal anonymous forms of communication available or not.
Even as much as I disagree with even bricking stolen equipment (it's extremely wasteful in many regards to make perfectly usable equipment unusable), I do understand the sentiment behind why it would be a good thing to do.
However, tracking stolen devices at coffee shops and public Wi-Fi? How could anything possibly go wrong?
Step 1. Give your "enemy" (or whoever) a new iPhone and a $10 Starbucks giftcard.
Step 2. Report device stolen to local police and/or otherwise have it added to the naughty database
Step 3. Said innocent person or person you (or the powers that be) deem undesirable is arrested for possessing stolen property, or at the very least detained.
Step 4. Profit??
What a stupid idea.
Not worth remembering AT ALL. The full force and credit of the mainstream media is NEVER used to discredit people working on projects that might cause embarrassment to the establishment, or worse find simple root-cause explanations for ailments that could have their symptoms managed with expensive drugs. Never, ever. Your example is the one and only time one of these crackpot, terrorist, conspiracy-theorist, tinfoil-hat frauds has ever been proven right.
sarcasm off
It's definitely worth remembering, and just think about how many people looking for the truth have been silenced or worse because they went up against the status quo. I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that the SA article from the 80s even had some form of the verbiage "the science is settled".
Translation: "I don't like a certain group of people. Even though they aren't breaking any laws, mother government MAKE THEM STOP!! WAAHHHHH MOMMY!!!!"
While I certainly agree that those guys are a bunch of jaggers, they're also mostly harmless losers who don't hurt anything. If you can't tell the difference between those jokers and a real cop, get out of the gene pool. You know what I hate, though, for real? Assholes who want the government to "whack" people who are not breaking the law but merely mildly annoying to them.
Life Tip: You can "think" you're entitled to do whatever you want. Plenty of people live in dreamland. Actually acting upon it is where the whacking should start. If a guy wants to drive around in an old cop car and think he's something other than a washed up loser from a trailer park, that's his opinion. It's a free country. If he tries to tell me what to do, then we'll see who's right and who's wrong.
Plus, many hams aren't this kind of asshole and are valuable assets during times of emergency.
I'm all for jumping on the good, old-fashioned Comcast hate train when it's deserved (like my increasingly saturated 105M cable connection that struggles to provide 50-60 during peak periods), but please explain to me how someone running the Xfinity hotspot on their router makes them have a "really vulnerable wifi connection"?
There are two separate networks being broadcast from the access point. One, which connects to the customer's LAN, is available for the owner to use at full speed. The other, which does not connect to the internal LAN, only to the outside world, and is rate limited to ensure full performance of the customer's provisioned speed and is available to outside users. Outside users must authenticate using their Xfinity credentials to connect. These credentials are logged, so if any nefarious activity originates from the connection it will be attributed to it's rightful owner.
The internal network is still password protected (well, as protected as any wireless network can be, I suppose) so no one will be connecting to your private network.
I agree that the Xfinity hotspot should be opt-in because it uses electricity and adds extra RF to what is usually an already noisy spectrum band, but this in no way, shape, or form, makes your wifi connection "really vulnerable". No more vulnerable that wifi already is, anyway. Stop fear-mongering.
Essentially the argument against free, anonymous speech is that people will show the world exactly how they feel deep down inside. They won't filter, they won't self-censor, they won't be politically correct. And that's A Bad Thing(tm) according to the powers that be, so we have to shut it down. What a cowardly fucking attitude to have.
Grow a fucking set and learn to deal with criticism. Some people don't like me for whatever reason. A few even probably HATE me. And that's absolutely their right to do so. In fact, it's a pillar of free society to be able to have whatever opinions you like, whether or not it hurts someone's feelings, or (gasp!) makes someone uncomfortable or shatters the fragile little ego of some useless millennial* leech who can't attain respect on their own merits so they have to demand respect from society through the control of thought and language to protect themselves from the truth.
I think pure, unadulterated, uncensored, open speech is the most beautiful thing in the world. As hateful or unpopular as much of that speech is, it's how someone really feels and that person deserves to have their say just as much as any special snowflake or "safe space" dweller. In fact those snowflakes are the majority amongst the millennials of my generation due to their narcissistic addiction to social media and their tendency to be "followers". Where are the safe spaces for the minority of us who can still think critically and for ourselves, peer pressure and popular opinion be damned?
And if comment sections are so overrun with said incorrect thoughts, you have to wonder if maybe the people censoring them are the ones that are "incorrect".
Because hackers are such staunch Conservatives, right?
Every Verizon SMARTPHONE (did you even read the TITLE of the post?) being sold today has a SIM slot.
And no one ever said buying outright would historically (it will now) lead to a lower monthly bill. I said that you were always paying full price for the phone whether you were stupid enough to do it outright or take the subsidy which is what anyone with half a brain always did.
You must be the idiot.
All modern Verizon LTE smartphones (2011+ or so) have been fully compatible with GSM/UMTS networks for years now. And yes, they're completely unlocked and can be used on any carrier worldwide. You are aware that LTE is a GSM-based standard, aren't you? And that Verizon uses SIM cards even for authentication to their CDMA network, right? And that Verizon phones are some of the MOST compatible phones on the market since they can be used on any GSM carrier for at least HSPA level connectivity AND Verizon, too? And that a modern Verizon LTE smartphone s fully compatible with the majority of T-Mobile's LTE service and can work fully on their network in most areas?
And even that you were paying "full price" for the phone even way back when Verizon was strictly an IS-95 CDMA network. It was baked into the cost of the service and was enforced through the 2-year contract. You did know that as well, didn't you?