Unless flash has come a _long_ way while I haven't been watching, if you want an 80GB, it'll have something spinning in it. I'm not sure that's really a problem; my HD-based iPod has bounced around quite a bit while running and doesn't seem to mind.
Protip: Use the left Apple Button. You can keep your left hand on the home keys and use it with your left thumb. This makes finding the right home keys easier. Um...wouldn't it be so much easier to just, you know, buy a 3-button mouse and use it? It's worked just fine for, oh, maybe a decade now?
And Slashdot readers are incredibly predictable in their kneejerk hostility to anything written by Dvorak. If you have a problem with his article address the article instead of making it a personality contest. Actually, I think this is the first time in years of posting that I've even acknowledged Dvorak one way or the other. So maybe it's predictable to you as an AC but, I was making an observation and stand by it. It's strange - even though I've felt that way for years, I keep going back to read his posts, only to find out that he's apparently living in some bizarro-universe where the opposite of logic applies.
As to being predictable in reactions - lots of people don't like, say, hurricanes. Doesn't mean we're sheeple, it just might mean that there are in fact more negative things than positive.
looks like you stopped reading them too soon, you should have read this article, or at least the summary, you might have been pleasantly surprised. Sorry, but "I don't agree with his POV" does not equal "I didn't read it".
I concur with the "software as a service sucks" sentiment he has in the article. It has its place. I see it as providing the same value as paying a hosting company to do the care & feeding of my webservers, rather than hosting them out of my basement (like I used to). Better infrastructure, remote/offsite backups of critical data - and more redundancy than I'll ever have to my own location. Capacity and upgrade concerns are also taken out of the picture. Specialization of services has value - if it didn't, we'd all still be hunter/gatherers.
I'm trying to think of the last time I read an article by Dvorak, and said "You know, he's got a good point". It's almost like he intentionally trolls his readership by stating the most outrageous possible point of view, just to stir up hits and discussion.
except the battery is fine. There's just some damn bit stuck somewhere that it's reading and setting off this ad/nag ware. My beef, and the GGP's beef is with the ad/nagware. I don't want it there, and I can't find a control panel item or other overt way to disable it, though it hasn't gotten annoying enough to send me registry hacking yet. Ah, you may have missed my point. I'm not defending the nagware, or saying the battery is crap, I'm saying that if their nagware is going to claim that the battery is crap, then they should have to pay (literally) for making the bad decision to inflict said crapware on their customers. Besides, free battery? You kidding? Why not.
Oh, and the laptop is one year old, so it was six months old when it started this crap.
Seems to me, that'd be a great time to call Dell for a warranty replacement of the battery. Make their advertising scheme cost them. "Your app tells me that my battery, which is only 6 months old, is already crap. Send me a new one."
What rock have you been under? 3rd party apps aren't a problem, doesn't even take a l33t haxx0r to install them. I've got apache webserver and a wiki running on mine, a Nintendo emulator (w00t! Haven't played Galaxians in years!), full shell access with ssh, and on and on.
I know it was delayed for long, and it sure looks like it. One year ago this phones feature set might have been more excusable.
OK sure, whatever. I went from a Palm Treo to the iPhone. Most of what the iphone does, the Palm does too. But without exception, the UI on the palm is clunky compared to how the iPhone does it. If you just want to check off items on a feature list, then I'm not surprised that you don't _get it_ when it comes to UI usability. MMS might be in the next release, that's the rumor. But by god, if I can't send text messages that include animated gifs, how ever will I live. GPS? Got one, never use it. Use(d) the iPod more. 3G? Yeah, OK, but to me worrying about the transport mechanism for my cell network isn't important. Can I get signal where I use it? Great. It's interesting to note that a friend of mine just got back from Hungary, where his iPhone worked just fine, but his blackberry with "global coverage", did not. It's a new one, no idea if that's 3G or not or who his carrier is but, doesn't add any value to me.
Much as I'd love to go on, I need to deploy some more content to my webserver on the iPhone.
sshd and Terminal.app have been out for the iPhone for several weeks already. I can either open up the app and be right in the shell on the phone, or I can ssh into it from any other system that can see it networkologically. No need to wire anything to a terminal. There's also a binkit (google Nate True and the word 'binkit' for link) with some Unix binaries that weren't on the phone when it shipped. I've got apache and a wiki running on mine, a couple games, and can serve up webpages (which I'm using for vacation and kid photos). Deploying files to it is just like any other Unix box, ssh in and work, or scp stuff over to it. Doesn't seem to be all that "locked out from the internals" as some people think.
I saw a video of what is probably this, on YouTube. Search terms "fake iPhone" I think. Can't get to the link from where I'm at right now to post a direct link.
That said, if this is the one in the video, the user interface is completely different, and the workflow looked not well thought out. So, there are two kinds of people when it comes to Apple or similar products - those who make a checklist of "Can I get to my voicemail (yes/no)", and consider all voicemail equal, would probably be just fine with the workflow that this gives you. But, the iPhone's voicemail app is _very_ nice, and is better executed than any other voicemail I've used. Other apps are similar, nice little surprises when you use them (traffic conditions in the Google Maps app, for instance). So, the guy who says "All keyboards/cases/power supplies are the same", won't want the premium hardware that Apple sells, and/or won't care about the usability differences.
To much to bear? Just let the parent post stand on its own; that one should go into some hall of fame somewhere. Trying to add to it just detracts from it. It's like taking the Mona Lisa and, you know, touching up some details a bit.
Tell me again why this is a revolution? The iPhone is a pretty cool toy, but remind me what's revolutionary about it?
Folks, Apple is a company that makes neat products. It's not a club or a religion. Well for starters, you're doing that whole "pretend to be speaking for the opposition" thing which, sorry, you're not. It's a great device that does everything it does very well. Yes, I could do pretty much everything this thing does with my Treo but, the iPhone does it all with a more logical, consistent GUI, well thought out process flow, and all sorts of other things that people who merely tick off a features list will miss the value of. It's the same old story - people who want a car to get from home to work won't understand why (insert brand name here) is a nicer car, while those who have said car value the differences that the other person does not.
That said, a terminal app on my iPhone? Are you kidding? Hell yes, I'll set it up. It's not so much that it gives me a command line interface, it's that it gives me access to the Unix system in my pocket. Again, if you don't value that and don't get it, it's _fine_, really, but that doesn't mean it's without value to those who understand the value of such a thing.
Am I the only one who thinks it's really silly that the only channel through which to update your phone (or, put in another way, your slightly-locked-down, general purpose hand-held computer and communications device) is... is... your MUSIC PLAYER!?
(it is called itunes, no?) Am I the only one who finds it amusing that people are so desperate to find something, anything, negative to say about the iPhone that they pick something like this to complain about? That, and if you're on a PC and going to sync an iPhone, which includes an iPod (needs iTunes), why would you want _another_ app to do the syncing of the stuff on the iPhone that isn't music? It's the most logical place for that functionality.
And yet, you're not forced to send it to Apple for replacement. So obviously Apple isn't blocking third-parties from selling products and services for their gadgets.
That's laughable and you know it. Good luck getting your iPod repaired or replaced under warranty when its nicely obvious, due to the ding or otherwise, or, y'know, the third party battery that's in it.
Oh Gosh! Apple doesn't do a warranty replacement if the product is abused or has parts that aren't theirs in it! Goodness me! How Shocking! How Terrible! How like every other vendor out there, who won't fix things under warranty that aren't, ahem, warranty items. Sheesh.
"Sure, Apple's not forcing you to use their services. They'll void your warranty if you don't, but still."
Your interpretation of my point is wrong to the point of being laughable. Think about the process here. IF your battery dies during the warranty period, THEN they will replace it under warranty. ELSE: If battery dies after warranty period, THEN they will replace it at the $79.00 price...which, in my experience with an iPod, gets you a refurb unit with new battery and case, looking brand new. ELSE IF you don't want to pay $79.00, you can go anywhere else and get it for maybe half that price or less.
So, if it's under warranty, there's no reason to pay to get it replaced, they'll replace it. It would be astonishingly stupid to pay for a third-party battery replacement into an iAnything that's under warranty, because you'd be voiding the warranty for that item _and_ paying money you don't have to. So it seems your point is all self-contradictory handwaving.
Yes, I realize (and amn't arguing) that they're within their rights to do so. But if you think it's not effectively the same thing to the average non-Slashdot reading person on the street, you're standing too close to the RDF.
Explain to me how, in your reality, you'd pay for a third party battery replacement on a unit which is under warranty. Because that seems to be the thing you're complaining about, right? On a side note, it is somewhat amusing to me that the thing people are whining about the loudest, is a complete non-issue. Unless you are proposing the battery chemistry is other than stated? I'll want a new phone LONG before this battery goes south on me.
Why should someone have to pay $29 extra for a new battery? Why would you even consider that an acceptable additional cost? You're right, Apple should've sold a "user-serviceable" version of the iPhone with a full-size removable battery and detachable back cover, for all those people who would never buy one anyway!
Wouldn't that add cost to the iPhone, and decrease unit integrity and battery life? No thanks, not interested. Me, I'd rather take my chances on not needing a new battery before I want to replace it with something newer, a few years from now, than to have a big hole in the back of the unit adding a huge physical opening in the case.
"They are NOT selling to education, government, business, or corporate customers. "
They're not even selling them to registered Apple developers. And yet, while I could qualify as any of those categories, I am able to buy one as an individual. So what's the problem?
The iPhone doesn't have a user-replaceable battery, but it is replaceable. This is the same as all iPods for the last several years.
So you ranted on and on (forever actually) about how the info was known in advance and can be found on the site. I don't think he was _ranting_, where did you get that impression?
Let me ask you: how does the fact that you KNOW the battery is soldered, is making it any better for you, as an iPhone owner, when you'll have to ship it to Apple for a $100 replacement? So short a sentence, so many problems. First - of course it's soldered. Any of the iPhone dissections will show you that. As far as why it's better - that is volume and weight that doesn't have to be lost to contact pads and battery case, so you can have more battery - so more capacity. I'm not sure how anyone could see that not to be a good thing. Also, I neither need to ship it to Apple for replacement, nor do I have to pay $100.00 for it. From the apple site, it's $79 plus $6.95 shipping. If you've ever used Apple's battery replacement, or read comments about it, you'd know that it's really an exchange/refurb program - you get back a new case, new battery, and it looks like a new unit. But, you don't have to go to Apple at all. As the grandparent post stated, chances are good you'll be on to your next gadget before the battery life makes this an issue, and if not, a simple google of "iphone battery" gives you lots of options for replacement who are _not_ Apple, and are significantly cheaper.
Is it? Does disclosing of intentionally crippled architecture of the device mean we can't be dissatisfied with the serviceability of the phone? Does it mean people are happy with their crippled iPod batteries (judging by the web, no, they aren't).
"Intentionally crippled" implies that they specifically did this to piss, apparently, specifically you, off. Sorry but, battery life, reliability (solder rather than press-together contacts), having the case not have built in weak points & openings, and all those other reasons, outweigh the "problem" of a battery that will last for the forseeable usage life of a product.
You need you to grow some balls and face the reality: Apple has intentionally crippled these products for no better reason than remain in tight control of the battery replacement procedure and get some cash from there too. And yet, you're not forced to send it to Apple for replacement. So obviously Apple isn't blocking third-parties from selling products and services for their gadgets.
This makes them somewhat sad, but the fact that you as a customer (I suppose you don't work at Apple) defend them, is even sadder. I don't expect this message to work any better than his did, but you might want to consider that the motivation to counter someone badmouthing a good product, isn't limited to having financial reasons for doing so. In my case, it's because you're both wrong, and belligerant about it. That's a bad combination.
OK, apparently this is one of those language things then because, from that same link, In the July 1999 poll, the overwhelming majority of Americans (89%) do not believe the U.S. government staged or faked the Apollo moon landing. Only 6% of the public believes the landing was faked and another 5% have no opinion.
So, sure, there are many people who think it didn't happen, or who for whatever reason didn't have an opinion when asked, but 89% is a, well, more huger-even number of folks who actually have a clue.
So...that still doesn't change the fact that poll numbers, no matter how favorable, don't enter into the usefulness or lack thereof of 40 year old technology. And they _certainly_ don't enter into the fact that trying to recall something that has been publically known for 40 years, just ain't gonna work.
Not only that, why bother taking it down? a huge portion of the population believes it didn't work and we faked it all. Really? A huge proportion? Can you post a cite for that? Seems more like one of those claims made by people who want to pretend that the masses are stupid and ignorant, than something based in reality. Also - what possible importance could there be in the opinions of the uninformed? It's workable technology as any reasonable person knows. It's also 40 year old technology. While there may be people who are 40 years behind us in rocket design, it's obviously impossible to remove all the materials and knowledge of the design from the public - if that's what's actually being done. The more hype I see people respond with, the more the whole thing smells like something that isn't what they're saying it is.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some reallllly smart marketing type people at Cisco ran some sort of study or something but, Linksys is consumer stuff. Cisco is enterprise stuff. Why dilute the brand for the enterprise stuff with consumer-grade equipment being associated with the name? Then again, where is there more money to be made? Not sure I have an answer but I'd be interested in hearing what others think about keeping the identity separate vs. combining them into one. Seems to me that "Linksys, a division of Cisco" would be as confidence-boosting as calling it Cisco, to the consumer. And I'd prefer to know that if something says Cisco, it's the real deal, not some 60 dollar best-buy grade piece of switchgear.
Good gravy. When did the iPhone become the Paris Hilton of gadgets? I don't want to hear about it every day, either. Just think back... how many "iPhone spotted at _____" stories have their been in the past 9 months? If only there was some way to see that the thread is about an iPhone so you don't have to go into it and read it. Like maybe a headline and summary or something - that could work. Anyone know if slashcode supports such a thing?
(More information at How to disable virtual memory / swap files. The line that I stated above is the one I found on my Mac OS X 10.4.10 machine.) Has anyone verified that that's how they're doing it? I haven't loaded the restore image into anywhere I can look through it (yet), probably would find same informative. If they're just not turning it on, seems like "so, turn it on" would be easy enough. Wonder why they turned it off, via whichever mechanism?
Remember though, that the iPhone has 128MB of RAM, with no swap.
No swap? Do you have somewhere I can read about that specifically? Seems like it'd be harder to de-implement that, than to leave it in. But anyway - point is, there's some really smart folks digging into this thing, and it's quite enjoyable to watch what they come up with. Am I likely to actually run one of my websites off of an iPhone? Of course not. But, from a geek factor - if I can get apache running on it (which I apparently can), and then use one of the javascript-based wikis, I could have a wiki running on my iPhone and yes, that would be quite useful. Not so much for others, but for my own stuff.
....is an application to send picture messages and maybe turn it into a modern phone. Right. Because if there's one app that makes or breaks the usability of a product, it's the ability to send that animated emoticon guy pooping.gif file.
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Unless flash has come a _long_ way while I haven't been watching, if you want an 80GB, it'll have something spinning in it. I'm not sure that's really a problem; my HD-based iPod has bounced around quite a bit while running and doesn't seem to mind.
Actually, I think this is the first time in years of posting that I've even acknowledged Dvorak one way or the other. So maybe it's predictable to you as an AC but, I was making an observation and stand by it. It's strange - even though I've felt that way for years, I keep going back to read his posts, only to find out that he's apparently living in some bizarro-universe where the opposite of logic applies.
As to being predictable in reactions - lots of people don't like, say, hurricanes. Doesn't mean we're sheeple, it just might mean that there are in fact more negative things than positive.
Bizarre, but, how is it any different, functionally, than having a one year license to use a software product? FlexLM anyone?
Sorry, but "I don't agree with his POV" does not equal "I didn't read it".
I concur with the "software as a service sucks" sentiment he has in the article.
It has its place. I see it as providing the same value as paying a hosting company to do the care & feeding of my webservers, rather than hosting them out of my basement (like I used to). Better infrastructure, remote/offsite backups of critical data - and more redundancy than I'll ever have to my own location. Capacity and upgrade concerns are also taken out of the picture. Specialization of services has value - if it didn't, we'd all still be hunter/gatherers.
I'm trying to think of the last time I read an article by Dvorak, and said "You know, he's got a good point". It's almost like he intentionally trolls his readership by stating the most outrageous possible point of view, just to stir up hits and discussion.
Ah, you may have missed my point. I'm not defending the nagware, or saying the battery is crap, I'm saying that if their nagware is going to claim that the battery is crap, then they should have to pay (literally) for making the bad decision to inflict said crapware on their customers. Besides, free battery? You kidding? Why not.
(and I say this as a minor shareholder in Dell)
Seems to me, that'd be a great time to call Dell for a warranty replacement of the battery. Make their advertising scheme cost them. "Your app tells me that my battery, which is only 6 months old, is already crap. Send me a new one."
What rock have you been under? 3rd party apps aren't a problem, doesn't even take a l33t haxx0r to install them. I've got apache webserver and a wiki running on mine, a Nintendo emulator (w00t! Haven't played Galaxians in years!), full shell access with ssh, and on and on.
I know it was delayed for long, and it sure looks like it. One year ago this phones feature set might have been more excusable.
OK sure, whatever. I went from a Palm Treo to the iPhone. Most of what the iphone does, the Palm does too. But without exception, the UI on the palm is clunky compared to how the iPhone does it. If you just want to check off items on a feature list, then I'm not surprised that you don't _get it_ when it comes to UI usability. MMS might be in the next release, that's the rumor. But by god, if I can't send text messages that include animated gifs, how ever will I live. GPS? Got one, never use it. Use(d) the iPod more. 3G? Yeah, OK, but to me worrying about the transport mechanism for my cell network isn't important. Can I get signal where I use it? Great. It's interesting to note that a friend of mine just got back from Hungary, where his iPhone worked just fine, but his blackberry with "global coverage", did not. It's a new one, no idea if that's 3G or not or who his carrier is but, doesn't add any value to me.
Much as I'd love to go on, I need to deploy some more content to my webserver on the iPhone.
sshd and Terminal.app have been out for the iPhone for several weeks already. I can either open up the app and be right in the shell on the phone, or I can ssh into it from any other system that can see it networkologically. No need to wire anything to a terminal. There's also a binkit (google Nate True and the word 'binkit' for link) with some Unix binaries that weren't on the phone when it shipped. I've got apache and a wiki running on mine, a couple games, and can serve up webpages (which I'm using for vacation and kid photos). Deploying files to it is just like any other Unix box, ssh in and work, or scp stuff over to it. Doesn't seem to be all that "locked out from the internals" as some people think.
I saw a video of what is probably this, on YouTube. Search terms "fake iPhone" I think. Can't get to the link from where I'm at right now to post a direct link.
That said, if this is the one in the video, the user interface is completely different, and the workflow looked not well thought out. So, there are two kinds of people when it comes to Apple or similar products - those who make a checklist of "Can I get to my voicemail (yes/no)", and consider all voicemail equal, would probably be just fine with the workflow that this gives you. But, the iPhone's voicemail app is _very_ nice, and is better executed than any other voicemail I've used. Other apps are similar, nice little surprises when you use them (traffic conditions in the Google Maps app, for instance). So, the guy who says "All keyboards/cases/power supplies are the same", won't want the premium hardware that Apple sells, and/or won't care about the usability differences.
That said, a terminal app on my iPhone? Are you kidding? Hell yes, I'll set it up. It's not so much that it gives me a command line interface, it's that it gives me access to the Unix system in my pocket. Again, if you don't value that and don't get it, it's _fine_, really, but that doesn't mean it's without value to those who understand the value of such a thing.
(it is called itunes, no?) Am I the only one who finds it amusing that people are so desperate to find something, anything, negative to say about the iPhone that they pick something like this to complain about? That, and if you're on a PC and going to sync an iPhone, which includes an iPod (needs iTunes), why would you want _another_ app to do the syncing of the stuff on the iPhone that isn't music? It's the most logical place for that functionality.
That's laughable and you know it. Good luck getting your iPod repaired or replaced under warranty when its nicely obvious, due to the ding or otherwise, or, y'know, the third party battery that's in it.
Oh Gosh! Apple doesn't do a warranty replacement if the product is abused or has parts that aren't theirs in it! Goodness me! How Shocking! How Terrible! How like every other vendor out there, who won't fix things under warranty that aren't, ahem, warranty items. Sheesh.
"Sure, Apple's not forcing you to use their services. They'll void your warranty if you don't, but still."
Your interpretation of my point is wrong to the point of being laughable. Think about the process here. IF your battery dies during the warranty period, THEN they will replace it under warranty. ELSE: If battery dies after warranty period, THEN they will replace it at the $79.00 price...which, in my experience with an iPod, gets you a refurb unit with new battery and case, looking brand new. ELSE IF you don't want to pay $79.00, you can go anywhere else and get it for maybe half that price or less.So, if it's under warranty, there's no reason to pay to get it replaced, they'll replace it. It would be astonishingly stupid to pay for a third-party battery replacement into an iAnything that's under warranty, because you'd be voiding the warranty for that item _and_ paying money you don't have to. So it seems your point is all self-contradictory handwaving.
Yes, I realize (and amn't arguing) that they're within their rights to do so. But if you think it's not effectively the same thing to the average non-Slashdot reading person on the street, you're standing too close to the RDF.
Explain to me how, in your reality, you'd pay for a third party battery replacement on a unit which is under warranty. Because that seems to be the thing you're complaining about, right? On a side note, it is somewhat amusing to me that the thing people are whining about the loudest, is a complete non-issue. Unless you are proposing the battery chemistry is other than stated? I'll want a new phone LONG before this battery goes south on me.Wouldn't that add cost to the iPhone, and decrease unit integrity and battery life? No thanks, not interested. Me, I'd rather take my chances on not needing a new battery before I want to replace it with something newer, a few years from now, than to have a big hole in the back of the unit adding a huge physical opening in the case.
They're not even selling them to registered Apple developers.
And yet, while I could qualify as any of those categories, I am able to buy one as an individual. So what's the problem?
The iPhone doesn't have a user-replaceable battery, but it is replaceable. This is the same as all iPods for the last several years.
So you ranted on and on (forever actually) about how the info was known in advance and can be found on the site.
I don't think he was _ranting_, where did you get that impression?
Let me ask you: how does the fact that you KNOW the battery is soldered, is making it any better for you, as an iPhone owner, when you'll have to ship it to Apple for a $100 replacement?
So short a sentence, so many problems. First - of course it's soldered. Any of the iPhone dissections will show you that. As far as why it's better - that is volume and weight that doesn't have to be lost to contact pads and battery case, so you can have more battery - so more capacity. I'm not sure how anyone could see that not to be a good thing. Also, I neither need to ship it to Apple for replacement, nor do I have to pay $100.00 for it. From the apple site, it's $79 plus $6.95 shipping. If you've ever used Apple's battery replacement, or read comments about it, you'd know that it's really an exchange/refurb program - you get back a new case, new battery, and it looks like a new unit. But, you don't have to go to Apple at all. As the grandparent post stated, chances are good you'll be on to your next gadget before the battery life makes this an issue, and if not, a simple google of "iphone battery" gives you lots of options for replacement who are _not_ Apple, and are significantly cheaper.
Is it? Does disclosing of intentionally crippled architecture of the device mean we can't be dissatisfied with the serviceability of the phone? Does it mean people are happy with their crippled iPod batteries (judging by the web, no, they aren't).
"Intentionally crippled" implies that they specifically did this to piss, apparently, specifically you, off. Sorry but, battery life, reliability (solder rather than press-together contacts), having the case not have built in weak points & openings, and all those other reasons, outweigh the "problem" of a battery that will last for the forseeable usage life of a product.
You need you to grow some balls and face the reality: Apple has intentionally crippled these products for no better reason than remain in tight control of the battery replacement procedure and get some cash from there too.
And yet, you're not forced to send it to Apple for replacement. So obviously Apple isn't blocking third-parties from selling products and services for their gadgets.
This makes them somewhat sad, but the fact that you as a customer (I suppose you don't work at Apple) defend them, is even sadder.
I don't expect this message to work any better than his did, but you might want to consider that the motivation to counter someone badmouthing a good product, isn't limited to having financial reasons for doing so. In my case, it's because you're both wrong, and belligerant about it. That's a bad combination.
OK, apparently this is one of those language things then because, from that same link, In the July 1999 poll, the overwhelming majority of Americans (89%) do not believe the U.S. government staged or faked the Apollo moon landing. Only 6% of the public believes the landing was faked and another 5% have no opinion.
So, sure, there are many people who think it didn't happen, or who for whatever reason didn't have an opinion when asked, but 89% is a, well, more huger-even number of folks who actually have a clue.
So...that still doesn't change the fact that poll numbers, no matter how favorable, don't enter into the usefulness or lack thereof of 40 year old technology. And they _certainly_ don't enter into the fact that trying to recall something that has been publically known for 40 years, just ain't gonna work.
Really? A huge proportion? Can you post a cite for that? Seems more like one of those claims made by people who want to pretend that the masses are stupid and ignorant, than something based in reality. Also - what possible importance could there be in the opinions of the uninformed? It's workable technology as any reasonable person knows. It's also 40 year old technology. While there may be people who are 40 years behind us in rocket design, it's obviously impossible to remove all the materials and knowledge of the design from the public - if that's what's actually being done. The more hype I see people respond with, the more the whole thing smells like something that isn't what they're saying it is.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some reallllly smart marketing type people at Cisco ran some sort of study or something but, Linksys is consumer stuff. Cisco is enterprise stuff. Why dilute the brand for the enterprise stuff with consumer-grade equipment being associated with the name? Then again, where is there more money to be made? Not sure I have an answer but I'd be interested in hearing what others think about keeping the identity separate vs. combining them into one. Seems to me that "Linksys, a division of Cisco" would be as confidence-boosting as calling it Cisco, to the consumer. And I'd prefer to know that if something says Cisco, it's the real deal, not some 60 dollar best-buy grade piece of switchgear.
If only there was some way to see that the thread is about an iPhone so you don't have to go into it and read it. Like maybe a headline and summary or something - that could work. Anyone know if slashcode supports such a thing?
No swap? Do you have somewhere I can read about that specifically? Seems like it'd be harder to de-implement that, than to leave it in. But anyway - point is, there's some really smart folks digging into this thing, and it's quite enjoyable to watch what they come up with. Am I likely to actually run one of my websites off of an iPhone? Of course not. But, from a geek factor - if I can get apache running on it (which I apparently can), and then use one of the javascript-based wikis, I could have a wiki running on my iPhone and yes, that would be quite useful. Not so much for others, but for my own stuff.
....is an application to send picture messages and maybe turn it into a modern phone. Right. Because if there's one app that makes or breaks the usability of a product, it's the ability to send that animated emoticon guy pooping