Let's see. When somebody posts about an Cisco security exploit, it's a good thing. When somebody posts about a workaround to get past Microsoft's licensing it's a bad. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Cisco's situation is completely unrelated here because they are using intimidation tactics to try and stop any future exploit notifications from being released so their "reputation" isn't tarnished more than it already has been.
Microsoft's new license verification *scheme* isn't a security risk and if anything they are going to *welcome* these reports so that they can quickly close open holes that may allow "malicious" folks out there to continue to receive software updates.
If you RTFA you'd know that the RFID devices are for individuals and not for vehicles. You merely place your document on the dashboard to be scanned for a preliminary screening.
Yup, there are many ways in which this particular setup can be used in a sinister manner (i.e. deciding to find out why a particular RFID isn't moving, why it's in a different car, or just randomly stopping a car that contains an RFID tag under false pretenses to see what the occupant is up to).
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security will install radio frequency technology at five border posts with Canada and Mexico to track foreigners driving in and out of North America.
It will start with only five, pushing those that really want to get in to the other posts that do not issue the tags. It could also create a situation where potential criminals would leave their tagged car parked at a metropolitan hotel and use mass transit or even steal a completely different car so that they would be able to continue their mission without being tracked. This plan accomplishes nothing but making RFID tags seem like a viable terrorism fighting tool. Thanks for yet another worthless band-aid that is only meant to ease the public's notion of what RFIDs do.
The mandatory program will apply, however, to all foreigners with U.S. visas--including those from the 27 countries whose citizens don't need visas for short U.S. visits--who cross into the United States at those points.
Of course this only applies to everyone else and not US Citizens. First they came for foo, then they came for you, and because skewed data about these tags seem to make our country safer we will be "asked" to add them to our cars so that the government can track if someone else commits a crime w/our automobile...then they came for me as I was the only one left.
As long as they keep tightening the reigns under the guise of "stopping terrorism" the sheep will continue to herd happily under the darkening skies.
Web usage isn't exactly declining, malicious code or no.
You're confusing two completely different things here. Web usage != browsers. Please don't fall into the Microsoft marketing ploy that equates "The Web" with "The Browser". They aren't the same.
Isn't that what started the downfall of browsers in the first place?
People are becoming increasingly annoyed by the increasing problems associated with client side scripts. They might not be aware of what's causing the problem but they do know one exists.
Before people start complaining, it is important to remember that google maps is still at this juncture considered beta.
Who's complaining? The software works remarkably well and is probably one of the most innovative web applications ever. The fact that it requires no client side program and that it works so incredibly smooth is what makes it amazing...
Yeah, it's not as great as it could be but they are currently taking the appropriate steps to make sure that it continues to lead the field (i.e. the API).
The downside is that browsers don't give programmers full access to a computer's resources such as memory, process power and hard disk space. This is a bottleneck the engineer sees being removed in future, although he thinks the simplicity of the current Web browsing experience needs to be maintained.
Isn't that what started the downfall of browsers in the first place? The fact that malicious code could be executed client side by attackers through websites? I have a feeling that either the quote isn't written in its entirety or was modified in some way that changed what Rasmussen originally intended. I really doubt that someone of his level wouldn't acknowledge the dangers in doing what that quote proposes.
"It's quite good," he grudgingly admitted.
Luckily Google came out with it first so Microsoft again looks like the one copying what others are doing - right?;-)
c'mon... you're telling me that out of 5+ billion people on this planet, that only the person that found the exploit is the one that knows about it?
We know, from the last time a story about this topic was posted, that Cisco was alerted to the issue and had supposedly "been working on a fix" during that time.
So, no, we aren't that dumb -- what's dumb is that they believe that they can threaten people with lawsuits to keep them quiet.
This is nothing but a corporate scare tactic to keep people from disclosing issues w/their shit in the future.
Because they were told in the media that IE is full of holes where spyware and trojans can squeeze in and that Firefox doesn't have any. They switch because, for all intents and purposes, it is the same.
Popping up a window on USB mass storage insert isn't the same as a browser.
They expect each web site have its own window, right?
Uhh, you can still use Firefox exactly the same way you use IE so the tabbed browsing thing is moot.
Do we have to wait for all the Boomers to die before we can get back to small government?
You're kidding right? Don't you see the young political activists out there supporting their party? There are tons of morons out there voting for The New Aged GOP and their "conservative family values" and "killing those same families overseas" because "it's the right thing to do!"
I work in a technical college which normally should be full of left-wing pro-Union people voting Democrat because the New-Aged GOP is even more pro-business than they ever thought they *wouldn't* be.
Guess who was in here every day leading up to the elections trying to get people to register to vote? The New-Aged GOP people. Guess what their age ranges were? 18 to 25.
The New-aged GOP is young, molded, and powerful. They are ready to wage war on us *true* Republicans and have already been effective in wiping what Republicans used to stand for out of the minds of many of their future voters.
Of course, I admit that there's one charge against video games that is a slam dunk. Kids don't get physical exercise when they play a video game, and indeed the rise in obesity among younger people is a serious issue. But, of course, you don't get exercise from doing homework either.
heh, sure, those kids are really spending all that time doing homework and not nearly as much as becoming more aggressive playing after-school sports or killing, fucking, and carjacking!
Down with homework and more carjacking! Oh wait.
The most amazing thing about this is that Hillary can get so many people up-in-arms and pissed off about a stupid fucking video game and no one else can mobilize parents to "protect their children" from real harms that go virtually unnoticed in the political arena.
Someone really needs to link serious environmental issues to religion-based morality. Maybe then people will get mobilized. Afterall, it seems to be quite the rage recently...
What'd be nice is an option for either no notification, or a simple "Your device is ready" popup that slides up from the corner of the screen like thunderbird/trillian/other software pops up then slides away without interfering.
That's what we would prefer with our understanding of the computer world. It doesn't work like that for other people's viewpoint.
They see a window show up telling them what to do and the second that another OS doesn't do exactly that they don't feel comfortable.
If OSS wants to become a widely used desktop, then it needs to be better than the status quo, rather than a copy.
It needs to come up with something more useful before the other OSs come up with it. If people see that Windows pops up with a window notifying them that their SD card is now ready to be read they will expect that everywhere else.
People don't consider it an "interruption" they expect that window to appear and if it doesn't it's not acceptable.
By the way, DMB's record label is RCA Records, a member of the RIAA. John Mayer's label is Sony BMG, also an RIAA member. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
Not sure what you're confused about but let me help you to understand: What I said was that people should support artists that permit the free distribution of their music. The bands I listed do just that, regardless of what music they *sell* via the RIAA's channels.
And when was the last time you heard a Pearl Jam song on the radio?
Sometime on my drive in this morning, my drive home last night, and probably sometime last week.
People will support what they want. Apprantly the **AA's are making a ton of money, so the majority of people do not care what you or I care about.
Then you shouldn't even question what I am doing. People need to be educated that what the RIAA is doing/saying is non-sense. There are legal, viable, and possibly better alternatives out there.
How would they ever know if they weren't told be someone who does? We have the power, the medium, and the message. Don't just shut down and give up because you think it's a lost cause.
They know that most people will burn out and they know they can win that way. Don't let them win. For everyone's sake.
But we should *not* stand down in the face of their tactics as that's exactly what they are hoping for. We, the educated public, should continue to spread the anti-conglomorate message to those people that might have been swayed by the rhetoric being passed along by the RIAA.
Tell people that there are viable alternatives out there for them to listen to the music they enjoy. There are bands that do support free distribution of their music and *those* are the bands that need to have our continued support.
The more we support bands that do allow us to freely trade their music the more will come along.
Finding quality alternatives to major-label music is just too much work.
Ahem:
Dave Matthews Band, Los Lonely Boys, Wilco, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, and Pearl Jam (just to name a few) are all "well known" bands that are distributed and listened to on radio stations daily around the world.
Yes thats it, the RIAA/MPAA are enforcing their copyrights by seeking legal justification and that makes them evi. Well yea, why didn't I think of that. Sort of like the police who are enforcing the local/state/federal laws - that must make them evil too.
You're confusing things here so let me help you sort it out:
The RIAA is not the same as the police and shouldn't be enforcing laws.
I don't download music illegally so I'm not doing anything wrong by advocating that others shouldn't either.
People should not support a conglomorate that claims they are losing millions to these pirates yet spend thousands in legal fees trying to prosecute them.
Rather than taking legal action against downloaders, the music industry needs to entice them to use legal alternatives, the report said.
By chasing down people for using P2P they just cement my opinion that we should be downloading free music via legal alternatives like etree, dimeadozen, etc.
I just can't imagine why people would be enticed to further support the RIAA's actions rather than dropping support for them all together.
It's the sad nature of the public. They love to be abused.
Even though I typically use autorouting on my GPS, I find that entering a request for directions on Google Maps to be far easier than clicking links and farting around on Mapquest (and others).
"55124 To 16 6th St South, 55402" is a ton easier to get directions than tabbing through multiple text boxes. YMMV.
Trusted Software could be allowed to run on TS VirtualPC on TH mac though couldn't it?
With an emulation layer of DRM'd hardware it is possible that an attacker might be able to gain access to the keys that are negotiated thus rendering the DRM worthless.
The software and hardware communities watched the debacles that plagued the movie and music industry and they are going to try and do what they can to limit those same issues from occuring again.
As with everytime I post a comment about DRM, someone has to come along and say, "but see, there's a way around it!" Wrong.
DRM'd OSs will not work if the hardware they run on isn't DRM'd as well. This initiative (along with others that may flurish if this doesn't work -- i.e. Phoenix BIOS) is to make certain that the hardware is protected as well so that people won't be able to easily circumvent the restrictions.
Why would they bother to go through all of this if it didn't matter?
I'm going fully Mac when the x86 powermacs come out anyway so Windows is just going to be something I use for emulation purposes.
An obvious troll but I'll respond anyway: Windows will not run in emulation because of DRM. Sure, they might get an emulation layer up and running but it certainly won't be able to do anything that you would be able to do w/the "appropriate" hardware/software... Software will be trusted. Trusted software will not run on emulation layers.
Well, I played with it for five minutes and couldn't see much use.
For someone that has *never* used an RSS feed I see a benefit: I don't need a program to see the RSS feeds as my browser goes straight to this page when it opens and I can see everything I need to see in one shot (except Slashdot which isn't up-to-date enough for me).
Being that I don't know any better, with regards to how RSS feeds can be modified, I am quite happy with it. I can keep up w/my friends' RSS shit and I don't have to remember to go to their pages.
Is this the beginning of Trusted Computing for all? How do they expect to get customers to purchase an EFI system when a PC BIOS one is still well supported?
1) New Microsoft products will not boot on machines not installed with a DRM'd loader.
2) The "regular" Internet will not work with those people that aren't using trusted computing (i.e. online banking, music stores, etc).
3) People are buying new computers instead of cleaning off spyware because it's more cost effective.
4) Microsoft is now creating "anti-spyware" software (*cough* the recent Claria reports *cough*) so that people may end up going down the road listed in #3.
I know that most of you don't run IE but for those of us that do, Apple's HQ didn't appear as an empty lot, instead it looked like a fiery inferno with Jobs sitting on a throne of iPods!
I tried to find Google's campus on the map but all I could find was a serpent and a tree holding the most succulent fruit. Strange, I didn't think that their campus looked anything like that...
Microsoft's HQ, OTOH, was the Garden of Eden with little rabbits and naked nymphs running around. Bill was sitting there laughing because another person bought a copy of Windows and the fire grew brighter where Apple's HQ was supposed to be.
I was thinking God, I really need to switch to another browser, these exploits are of Biblical proportions and then I watched as Bill reached out from MSN Maps, grabbed me by the throat and said, "THEY AREN'T EXPLOITS!"
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Let's see. When somebody posts about an Cisco security exploit, it's a good thing. When somebody posts about a workaround to get past Microsoft's licensing it's a bad. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Cisco's situation is completely unrelated here because they are using intimidation tactics to try and stop any future exploit notifications from being released so their "reputation" isn't tarnished more than it already has been.
Microsoft's new license verification *scheme* isn't a security risk and if anything they are going to *welcome* these reports so that they can quickly close open holes that may allow "malicious" folks out there to continue to receive software updates.
Do you have any 'facts' to back your assertion up, or is it a simple Karma whore to the 'aways hate MS crowd'.
Umm, I don't need to karma whore to the "always hate MS crowd".
I just karma whore to everyone.
If you RTFA you'd know that the RFID devices are for individuals and not for vehicles. You merely place your document on the dashboard to be scanned for a preliminary screening.
Yup, there are many ways in which this particular setup can be used in a sinister manner (i.e. deciding to find out why a particular RFID isn't moving, why it's in a different car, or just randomly stopping a car that contains an RFID tag under false pretenses to see what the occupant is up to).
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security will install radio frequency technology at five border posts with Canada and Mexico to track foreigners driving in and out of North America.
It will start with only five, pushing those that really want to get in to the other posts that do not issue the tags. It could also create a situation where potential criminals would leave their tagged car parked at a metropolitan hotel and use mass transit or even steal a completely different car so that they would be able to continue their mission without being tracked. This plan accomplishes nothing but making RFID
tags seem like a viable terrorism fighting tool. Thanks for yet another worthless band-aid that is only meant to ease the public's notion of what RFIDs do.
The mandatory program will apply, however, to all foreigners with U.S. visas--including those from the 27 countries whose citizens don't need visas for short U.S. visits--who cross into the United States at those points.
Of course this only applies to everyone else and not US Citizens. First they came for foo, then they came for you, and because skewed data about these tags seem to make our country safer we will be "asked" to add them to our cars so that the government can track if someone else commits a crime w/our automobile...then they came for me as I was the only one left.
As long as they keep tightening the reigns under the guise of "stopping terrorism" the sheep will continue to herd happily under the darkening skies.
Web usage isn't exactly declining, malicious code or no.
You're confusing two completely different things here. Web usage != browsers. Please don't fall into the Microsoft marketing ploy that equates "The Web" with "The Browser". They aren't the same.
Isn't that what started the downfall of browsers in the first place?
People are becoming increasingly annoyed by the increasing problems associated with client side scripts. They might not be aware of what's causing the problem but they do know one exists.
Before people start complaining, it is important to remember that google maps is still at this juncture considered beta.
Who's complaining? The software works remarkably well and is probably one of the most innovative web applications ever. The fact that it requires no client side program and that it works so incredibly smooth is what makes it amazing...
Yeah, it's not as great as it could be but they are currently taking the appropriate steps to make sure that it continues to lead the field (i.e. the API).
The downside is that browsers don't give programmers full access to a computer's resources such as memory, process power and hard disk space. This is a bottleneck the engineer sees being removed in future, although he thinks the simplicity of the current Web browsing experience needs to be maintained.
;-)
Isn't that what started the downfall of browsers in the first place? The fact that malicious code could be executed client side by attackers through websites? I have a feeling that either the quote isn't written in its entirety or was modified in some way that changed what Rasmussen originally intended. I really doubt that someone of his level wouldn't acknowledge the dangers in doing what that quote proposes.
"It's quite good," he grudgingly admitted.
Luckily Google came out with it first so Microsoft again looks like the one copying what others are doing - right?
c'mon... you're telling me that out of 5+ billion people on this planet, that only the person that found the exploit is the one that knows about it?
We know, from the last time a story about this topic was posted, that Cisco was alerted to the issue and had supposedly "been working on a fix" during that time.
So, no, we aren't that dumb -- what's dumb is that they believe that they can threaten people with lawsuits to keep them quiet.
This is nothing but a corporate scare tactic to keep people from disclosing issues w/their shit in the future.
Why do regular people switch to Firefox?
Because they were told in the media that IE is full of holes where spyware and trojans can squeeze in and that Firefox doesn't have any. They switch because, for all intents and purposes, it is the same.
Popping up a window on USB mass storage insert isn't the same as a browser.
They expect each web site have its own window, right?
Uhh, you can still use Firefox exactly the same way you use IE so the tabbed browsing thing is moot.
Do we have to wait for all the Boomers to die before we can get back to small government?
You're kidding right? Don't you see the young political activists out there supporting their party? There are tons of morons out there voting for The New Aged GOP and their "conservative family values" and "killing those same families overseas" because "it's the right thing to do!"
I work in a technical college which normally should be full of left-wing pro-Union people voting Democrat because the New-Aged GOP is even more pro-business than they ever thought they *wouldn't* be.
Guess who was in here every day leading up to the elections trying to get people to register to vote? The New-Aged GOP people. Guess what their age ranges were? 18 to 25.
The New-aged GOP is young, molded, and powerful. They are ready to wage war on us *true* Republicans and have already been effective in wiping what Republicans used to stand for out of the minds of many of their future voters.
Sad.
Of course, I admit that there's one charge against video games that is a slam dunk. Kids don't get physical exercise when they play a video game, and indeed the rise in obesity among younger people is a serious issue. But, of course, you don't get exercise from doing homework either.
heh, sure, those kids are really spending all that time doing homework and not nearly as much as becoming more aggressive playing after-school sports or killing, fucking, and carjacking!
Down with homework and more carjacking! Oh wait.
The most amazing thing about this is that Hillary can get so many people up-in-arms and pissed off about a stupid fucking video game and no one else can mobilize parents to "protect their children" from real harms that go virtually unnoticed in the political arena.
Someone really needs to link serious environmental issues to religion-based morality. Maybe then people will get mobilized. Afterall, it seems to be quite the rage recently...
What'd be nice is an option for either no notification, or a simple "Your device is ready" popup that slides up from the corner of the screen like thunderbird/trillian/other software pops up then slides away without interfering.
That's what we would prefer with our understanding of the computer world. It doesn't work like that for other people's viewpoint.
They see a window show up telling them what to do and the second that another OS doesn't do exactly that they don't feel comfortable.
If OSS wants to become a widely used desktop, then it needs to be better than the status quo, rather than a copy.
It needs to come up with something more useful before the other OSs come up with it. If people see that Windows pops up with a window notifying them that their SD card is now ready to be read they will expect that everywhere else.
People don't consider it an "interruption" they expect that window to appear and if it doesn't it's not acceptable.
By the way, DMB's record label is RCA Records, a member of the RIAA. John Mayer's label is Sony BMG, also an RIAA member. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
Not sure what you're confused about but let me help you to understand: What I said was that people should support artists that permit the free distribution of their music. The bands I listed do just that, regardless of what music they *sell* via the RIAA's channels.
And when was the last time you heard a Pearl Jam song on the radio?
Sometime on my drive in this morning, my drive home last night, and probably sometime last week.
People will support what they want. Apprantly the **AA's are making a ton of money, so the majority of people do not care what you or I care about.
Then you shouldn't even question what I am doing. People need to be educated that what the RIAA is doing/saying is non-sense. There are legal, viable, and possibly better alternatives out there.
How would they ever know if they weren't told be someone who does? We have the power, the medium, and the message. Don't just shut down and give up because you think it's a lost cause.
They know that most people will burn out and they know they can win that way. Don't let them win. For everyone's sake.
We're convinced - but they are never going to be.
But we should *not* stand down in the face of their tactics as that's exactly what they are hoping for. We, the educated public, should continue to spread the anti-conglomorate message to those people that might have been swayed by the rhetoric being passed along by the RIAA.
Tell people that there are viable alternatives out there for them to listen to the music they enjoy. There are bands that do support free distribution of their music and *those* are the bands that need to have our continued support.
The more we support bands that do allow us to freely trade their music the more will come along.
Finding quality alternatives to major-label music is just too much work.
Ahem:
Dave Matthews Band, Los Lonely Boys, Wilco, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, and Pearl Jam (just to name a few) are all "well known" bands that are distributed and listened to on radio stations daily around the world.
Next?
You're confusing things here so let me help you sort it out:
- The RIAA is not the same as the police and shouldn't be enforcing laws.
- I don't download music illegally so I'm not doing anything wrong by advocating that others shouldn't either.
- People should not support a conglomorate that claims they are losing millions to these pirates yet spend thousands in legal fees trying to prosecute them.
Hope that helps.Rather than taking legal action against downloaders, the music industry needs to entice them to use legal alternatives, the report said.
By chasing down people for using P2P they just cement my opinion that we should be downloading free music via legal alternatives like etree, dimeadozen, etc.
I just can't imagine why people would be enticed to further support the RIAA's actions rather than dropping support for them all together.
It's the sad nature of the public. They love to be abused.
but I still stick to MapQuest for directions.
Even though I typically use autorouting on my GPS, I find that entering a request for directions on Google Maps to be far easier than clicking links and farting around on Mapquest (and others).
"55124 To 16 6th St South, 55402" is a ton easier to get directions than tabbing through multiple text boxes. YMMV.
Trusted Software could be allowed to run on TS VirtualPC on TH mac though couldn't it?
With an emulation layer of DRM'd hardware it is possible that an attacker might be able to gain access to the keys that are negotiated thus rendering the DRM worthless.
The software and hardware communities watched the debacles that plagued the movie and music industry and they are going to try and do what they can to limit those same issues from occuring again.
As with everytime I post a comment about DRM, someone has to come along and say, "but see, there's a way around it!" Wrong.
DRM'd OSs will not work if the hardware they run on isn't DRM'd as well. This initiative (along with others that may flurish if this doesn't work -- i.e. Phoenix BIOS) is to make certain that the hardware is protected as well so that people won't be able to easily circumvent the restrictions.
Why would they bother to go through all of this if it didn't matter?
I'm going fully Mac when the x86 powermacs come out anyway so Windows is just going to be something I use for emulation purposes.
An obvious troll but I'll respond anyway: Windows will not run in emulation because of DRM. Sure, they might get an emulation layer up and running but it certainly won't be able to do anything that you would be able to do w/the "appropriate" hardware/software... Software will be trusted. Trusted software will not run on emulation layers.
Sorry, welcome to the future.
Well, I played with it for five minutes and couldn't see much use.
For someone that has *never* used an RSS feed I see a benefit: I don't need a program to see the RSS feeds as my browser goes straight to this page when it opens and I can see everything I need to see in one shot (except Slashdot which isn't up-to-date enough for me).
Being that I don't know any better, with regards to how RSS feeds can be modified, I am quite happy with it. I can keep up w/my friends' RSS shit and I don't have to remember to go to their pages.
YMMV.
Is this the beginning of Trusted Computing for all? How do they expect to get customers to purchase an EFI system when a PC BIOS one is still well supported?
1) New Microsoft products will not boot on machines not installed with a DRM'd loader.
2) The "regular" Internet will not work with those people that aren't using trusted computing (i.e. online banking, music stores, etc).
3) People are buying new computers instead of cleaning off spyware because it's more cost effective.
4) Microsoft is now creating "anti-spyware" software (*cough* the recent Claria reports *cough*) so that people may end up going down the road listed in #3.
I know that most of you don't run IE but for those of us that do, Apple's HQ didn't appear as an empty lot, instead it looked like a fiery inferno with Jobs sitting on a throne of iPods!
I tried to find Google's campus on the map but all I could find was a serpent and a tree holding the most succulent fruit. Strange, I didn't think that their campus looked anything like that...
Microsoft's HQ, OTOH, was the Garden of Eden with little rabbits and naked nymphs running around. Bill was sitting there laughing because another person bought a copy of Windows and the fire grew brighter where Apple's HQ was supposed to be.
I was thinking God, I really need to switch to another browser, these exploits are of Biblical proportions and then I watched as Bill reached out from MSN Maps, grabbed me by the throat and said, "THEY AREN'T EXPLOITS!"
Scary!