"fixes it for you before you've finished typing the mail."
no need to exaggerate here.
the differences between jails and zones should be quite clear, but I can see how someone not having a Sun engineer on the clock to explain it to them might not get it.
zones should be used for a completely different purpose than jails. chrooted 'jails' are for restricting the runtime and filesystems environments for a particular process. in most cases, chrooted jails have nothing but the bare minimum libs and binaries, but it spawned from the original kernel which the parent machines runs.
zones are more like vmware in the way that it is a self-contained runtime environment that has its own protected memory space and kernel...these can then be restricted and allowed for full destruction, since the parent OS is not ifluenced in the same way as a chrooted jail.
in my opinion, Sun's support has never been worse or better than SGI's, HP's or DEC's...and that is still true today. the guy asked a question about the differences between jails and zones, not which is better from a support standpoint. it's a digression, and somewhat of a trolling one at that.
you're not happy with the kernel because of the config/build process ? you can change how verbose the make is, you know that, right ?
man...the 2.6 series has SO much more than 2.4 that being upset by the building seems like being upset about the color of the battery in your new ferrari.
of course, it's a valid point, I guess it's just not very important to me as asyncronous I/O, new virtual memory management, etc.
and then the black helicopters came swooping down after cross referencing my purchase of a BudLight with my 4th grade book report on Animal Farm.
seriously. the social networking efforts are going to be no worse than people's subscription to magazines and owning a credit card.
what is actually disturbing, here in reality, is the privacy policies that each company declares on their site. Yes, Orkut has an INSANE privacy policy, but Tribe, Friendster and some smaller others look like they mean to make privacy a selling point to the users, not a liability.
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While I agree that we shouldn't be mimicking Windows, what do you mean by this:
"You'd think that a good GUI would be trivial."
When in fact, it's not. Very rarely are UI engineers actually have any background in human factors, when they should be experts. UI engineers are more often software engineers, and may or may not have any knowledge of human factors or user interface design.
I assume that you do know that by mimicking Windows, these projects can get more traction with existing Windows users ? I really don't think that you're suggestion that both the GNOME or KDE teams should focus entirely on building a new and non Windows-like (or Mac, for that matter) UI....are you ?
The problem with that is that while it's a great idea to put contributors up on TV and give the layperson's description of Linux together...that promotes OpenSource, and Linux, but not specifically a Linux from a certain company. So....who's gonna pay for it ??
The reason why the Aryan child is on TV is because IBM pays for it. Who's going to pay for TV time, forget about prime-time broadcast costs ? RedHat ? GNU ? I doubt it.
again...it's a good idea, but it's not going to happen.
not to mention that almost every intel-based piece of hardware coming out of IBM these days is running Linux, and they are betting the farm on it. Oracle's main development platform now includes Linux.
Not to mention that every Microsoft product that uses the TCP/IP suite uses free software....it is using code from BSD's implementation, and you can see the UC Berkeley mention in the binaries.
Don't flatter yourself. Take a look at your own posting history and replies to them...I wasn't aware of how much a wiseass curmudgeon you were until someone else pointed it out to me. Ironically, I seem to remember it being in a thread where you accuse some other jamoke for "following" you. Apparently there's a trend.
Get over yourself. If you're gonna post idiotic statements, you're gonna get flamed, simple as that. The fix: post something that has some sort of intelligent fact, not self-centered diatribe.
You deserve all the shit and disrespect you receive here. Isn't it clear to you yet that your opinion isn't worth crap here ?
No, you're probably too busy trying to make goofy aqua crap that no one will use, making 4th grade anime jokes, whining about outsourcing, sobbing about RedHat and pretending to be Jakob Nielsen to notice that.
A- Conceited without reason B- Self-interested to astronomic proportions C- Frustratingly condescending and tunnel-visioned D- Doesn't matter, it's all idiocy to me.
and they are hilarious, well done, and much different from what anyone would think of as a PowerPoint presentation.
For those people who have only read the article, his "presentations" (if you can call them that) are cooler than I doubt any Microsoft or Apple could put together.
Smarten up, folks...forget the medium, it's his content that is genius.
But in this case, it's correct, because the intention is to place suspicion on the word 'advances'.
Maybe you ought to make a new year's resolution to reduce the number of things that bother you. It'd be better on the rest of us who are constantly reading your dumb pet peeves. Hate to be a grammar Nazi my ass, you love it.
I suspect that you haven't worked at a place where the admin is a genuine sysadmin, then.
relative to developers where I have worked, designing/building and performance tuning webserver farms, fileservers, compute servers, and managing security on all of it was WAY beyond the knowledge of any developer in the organization. it's just not their job.
sysadmin-ing is modern-day plumbing like software development is modern-day line cooking.
design, performance, security, efficiency, and economics can all be a daily part of an admins job, just like it can be of any developer.
Again, I suspect that your personal experience is where you're getting your opinion on admins. being a senior admin at some large online magazines, universities, biotech, and the US govt, I can tell you that the scope of a real admin's position can greatly exceed that of your standard developer.
I've been a senior sysadmin at 3 large online magazines, university, the US govt, and a biotech company....I can say without a doubt, here in San Francisco, finding sysadmins who *prefer* opensource tools is like finding sand in the desert.:)
I do know, tho, that that what goes on here in the Bay Area is not what is in Nebraska or even France.:)
"Surely a good sysadmin should be practically invisible to their users."
in the world where nothing can go wrong, that's correct. in the real world, that's just not true. of course, in many environments, developers can be pretty high profile in a company as well.
I never suggested that admins should also be developers. the environments where I have worked, many admins were competent to work alongside developers, and vice versa.
about developers not being hired in developed countries...what are you talking about ? have you even seen the software engineering listings on dice recently ? developers here in the US are a lot more in demand than good (senior) syadmins.
"Most sysadmins are dumb. So are most programmers."
no, to say that is to be a bitter pessimistic person.
saying "If you were technically inclined, you'd be a software engineer, not a fucking administrator." implies that administrators aren't technically inclined, which i took to mean that you're saying admins are dumb. forgive me if that wasn't your point, but it's a popular view taken by developers, as this article supports.
and to be correct, qualify your statement by saying that most developers/admins *YOU* have met are dumb, which is quite different than making generalized blanket statements.
the fact is, both jobs are not counter to each other, they are different, plain and simple. if developers see admins as being in their way, then it's the admin, not the admin's position or occupation that makes it that way.
same goes for admins who view developers as being in their way. in either case, neither is doing there job correctly.
and developers grow to be sysadmins, because it's a very different job, with different goals. please don't suggest that administration is stepping stone to becoming a developer. it's just not true.
come on. it works both ways, and the ability to recognize that is proportional to how successful developers or sysadmins will be.
i'm not defending clueless sysadmins, but the finger for bad development should be pointed in the right direction, not just at the sysadmin.
there are still a lot of developers around from the boom that got their job because they've proven in an interview nothing that can't be learned from "Learn C/Perl/Java in 24 Hours".
it goes both ways. having been a sr sysadmin in many environments, I can say that the variety exists everywhere.
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well with Friendster now getting more traffic than Expedia.com and Craigslist.org....I don't see how it's no longer cool, for many people.
so if you have weekends off and you get paid "well", you have no problem being a porn spammer ?
How about a garbage collector ?
What about a factory worker ?
"fixes it for you before you've finished typing the mail."
no need to exaggerate here.
the differences between jails and zones should be quite clear, but I can see how someone not having a Sun engineer on the clock to explain it to them might not get it.
zones should be used for a completely different purpose than jails. chrooted 'jails' are for restricting the runtime and filesystems environments for a particular process. in most cases, chrooted jails have nothing but the bare minimum libs and binaries, but it spawned from the original kernel which the parent machines runs.
zones are more like vmware in the way that it is a self-contained runtime environment that has its own protected memory space and kernel...these can then be restricted and allowed for full destruction, since the parent OS is not ifluenced in the same way as a chrooted jail.
in my opinion, Sun's support has never been worse or better than SGI's, HP's or DEC's...and that is still true today. the guy asked a question about the differences between jails and zones, not which is better from a support standpoint. it's a digression, and somewhat of a trolling one at that.
which is different from other for-profit companies ?
It should be shameless.
you're not happy with the kernel because of the config/build process ? you can change how verbose the make is, you know that, right ?
man...the 2.6 series has SO much more than 2.4 that being upset by the building seems like being upset about the color of the battery in your new ferrari.
of course, it's a valid point, I guess it's just not very important to me as asyncronous I/O, new virtual memory management, etc.
and then the black helicopters came swooping down after cross referencing my purchase of a BudLight with my 4th grade book report on Animal Farm.
seriously. the social networking efforts are going to be no worse than people's subscription to magazines and owning a credit card.
what is actually disturbing, here in reality, is the privacy policies that each company declares on their site. Yes, Orkut has an INSANE privacy policy, but Tribe, Friendster and some smaller others look like they mean to make privacy a selling point to the users, not a liability.
While I agree that we shouldn't be mimicking Windows, what do you mean by this:
"You'd think that a good GUI would be trivial."
When in fact, it's not. Very rarely are UI engineers actually have any background in human factors, when they should be experts. UI engineers are more often software engineers, and may or may not have any knowledge of human factors or user interface design.
I assume that you do know that by mimicking Windows, these projects can get more traction with existing Windows users ? I really don't think that you're suggestion that both the GNOME or KDE teams should focus entirely on building a new and non Windows-like (or Mac, for that matter) UI....are you ?
The problem with that is that while it's a great idea to put contributors up on TV and give the layperson's description of Linux together...that promotes OpenSource, and Linux, but not specifically a Linux from a certain company. So....who's gonna pay for it ??
The reason why the Aryan child is on TV is because IBM pays for it. Who's going to pay for TV time, forget about prime-time broadcast costs ? RedHat ? GNU ? I doubt it.
again...it's a good idea, but it's not going to happen.
Free software HAS expanded the industry in many different ways.
One way is that the vast majority of the internet runs on it. the major installations of:
DNS-- (bind)
Email-- (sendmail)
Apache-- (webserver)
not to mention that almost every intel-based piece of hardware coming out of IBM these days is running Linux, and they are betting the farm on it. Oracle's main development platform now includes Linux.
Not to mention that every Microsoft product that uses the TCP/IP suite uses free software....it is using code from BSD's implementation, and you can see the UC Berkeley mention in the binaries.
the web frontend is not so great, but rest assured once you get ssh access, everything works excellently, actually.
He's the only one with any really good ideas.
Don't flatter yourself. Take a look at your own posting history and replies to them...I wasn't aware of how much a wiseass curmudgeon you were until someone else pointed it out to me. Ironically, I seem to remember it being in a thread where you accuse some other jamoke for "following" you. Apparently there's a trend.
Get over yourself. If you're gonna post idiotic statements, you're gonna get flamed, simple as that. The fix: post something that has some sort of intelligent fact, not self-centered diatribe.
You deserve all the shit and disrespect you receive here. Isn't it clear to you yet that your opinion isn't worth crap here ?
No, you're probably too busy trying to make goofy aqua crap that no one will use, making 4th grade anime jokes, whining about outsourcing, sobbing about RedHat and pretending to be Jakob Nielsen to notice that.
My mistake. Go back to crying and whining.
Or...how to categorize anything they say:
A- Conceited without reason
B- Self-interested to astronomic proportions
C- Frustratingly condescending and tunnel-visioned
D- Doesn't matter, it's all idiocy to me.
Get your votes in fast.
and they are hilarious, well done, and much different from what anyone would think of as a PowerPoint presentation.
For those people who have only read the article, his "presentations" (if you can call them that) are cooler than I doubt any Microsoft or Apple could put together.
Smarten up, folks...forget the medium, it's his content that is genius.
But in this case, it's correct, because the intention is to place suspicion on the word 'advances'.
Maybe you ought to make a new year's resolution to reduce the number of things that bother you. It'd be better on the rest of us who are constantly reading your dumb pet peeves. Hate to be a grammar Nazi my ass, you love it.
"Sure, but it's only about 10% of them"
bullshit. not in the Bay Area, anyway.
"The systems in an average small or medium-sized company are run by morons"
what do think "small" is ? or "medium" ?
"Having worked both sides of the fence"
having worked for over 10 years as an admin, I'll say that's b.s.
I suspect that you haven't worked at a place where the admin is a genuine sysadmin, then.
relative to developers where I have worked, designing/building and performance tuning webserver farms, fileservers, compute servers, and managing security on all of it was WAY beyond the knowledge of any developer in the organization. it's just not their job.
sysadmin-ing is modern-day plumbing like software development is modern-day line cooking.
design, performance, security, efficiency, and economics can all be a daily part of an admins job, just like it can be of any developer.
Again, I suspect that your personal experience is where you're getting your opinion on admins. being a senior admin at some large online magazines, universities, biotech, and the US govt, I can tell you that the scope of a real admin's position can greatly exceed that of your standard developer.
I've been a senior sysadmin at 3 large online magazines, university, the US govt, and a biotech company....I can say without a doubt, here in San Francisco, finding sysadmins who *prefer* opensource tools is like finding sand in the desert. :)
:)
I do know, tho, that that what goes on here in the Bay Area is not what is in Nebraska or even France.
"Surely a good sysadmin should be practically invisible to their users."
in the world where nothing can go wrong, that's correct. in the real world, that's just not true. of course, in many environments, developers can be pretty high profile in a company as well.
I never suggested that admins should also be developers. the environments where I have worked, many admins were competent to work alongside developers, and vice versa.
about developers not being hired in developed countries...what are you talking about ? have you even seen the software engineering listings on dice recently ? developers here in the US are a lot more in demand than good (senior) syadmins.
sorry about that, apologies from here, too. :)
"Most sysadmins are dumb. So are most programmers."
no, to say that is to be a bitter pessimistic person.
saying "If you were technically inclined, you'd be a software engineer, not a fucking administrator." implies that administrators aren't technically inclined, which i took to mean that you're saying admins are dumb. forgive me if that wasn't your point, but it's a popular view taken by developers, as this article supports.
and to be correct, qualify your statement by saying that most developers/admins *YOU* have met are dumb, which is quite different than making generalized blanket statements.
the fact is, both jobs are not counter to each other, they are different, plain and simple. if developers see admins as being in their way, then it's the admin, not the admin's position or occupation that makes it that way.
same goes for admins who view developers as being in their way. in either case, neither is doing there job correctly.
"Admins grow to become programmers."
and developers grow to be sysadmins, because it's a very different job, with different goals. please don't suggest that administration is stepping stone to becoming a developer. it's just not true.
come on. it works both ways, and the ability to recognize that is proportional to how successful developers or sysadmins will be.
i'm not defending clueless sysadmins, but the finger for bad development should be pointed in the right direction, not just at the sysadmin.
there are still a lot of developers around from the boom that got their job because they've proven in an interview nothing that can't be learned from "Learn C/Perl/Java in 24 Hours".
it goes both ways. having been a sr sysadmin in many environments, I can say that the variety exists everywhere.
be careful there. developers don't automatically equal smart, and admins don automatically equal dumb.
to say any different reveals your ignorance about either field.