are you high or simply "ignant" of history? Who do you think opened the world's first bank? Answer, the prostitutes of Babylon. They were the high-priestesses in Babylon, which definitely made their church services a whole lot more enjoyable than any Christian denomination (sic), alligator wrestling or not. You might also look to ancient Greek civilization. They practically worshipped a prostitute class of women who actually were educated.
Make mine Nvidia! (on the x86 platform)... Otherwise, its Mac all the way... So how much money does everyone think Phoenix is receiving from Microsoft for this Palladium-esque *feature*?
Does anyone else think the reason HP won't automatically install Linux on these offerings is because they are trying to shield themselves from any litigation from SCO while trying to make a quick buck of Linux enthusiasts? (or, perhaps their contract with Microsoft states HP cannot ship any PCs with any other installed operating systems or they'd lose their special pricing on Windows). If they [HP] ship them [PCs] without Mandrake installed, I guess they [HP] can claim they are only selling bare-bones systems and that liability for the Linux OS would fall upon Mandrake (who quite possibliy is paying HP a bundling expense) and the end user for installing it of their own free choice. Therefore HP would escape any liability of directly distributing the allegedly IP infringing Linux operating system...
I'd love to see the RIAA claim that the MP3's of the late Wesley Willis I downloaded the other day are worth $150k per violation. I think they'd [the RIAA] would be laughed out of the courtroom if the Judge allowed me to play "Rock n Roll McDonalds" or some of the artist's other charming ditties...
HP invests a lot of money into research and development. HP funds Debian. What does Dell do? Sponge off the industry. For all that myself and many others here on Slashdot say about Microsoft, they too spend a lot of their money on R&D. Dell does none of this. Just as the personalities at Sun claim, Dell is a bank (or, more like a pawn shop). They used the same case for their midrange PCs for almost 4 years! At least for a while with Gateway they used AMD Athlons while Dell continues to string AMD along. In my eyes, Dell is no better than the federal government; the companies that win contracts to supply Dell with parts for their PCs are the lowest bidder. Someone send me an email when Alienware starts bundling a Linux distribution with their machines...
Does anybody know if they've encoded the documents to where you cannot convert them to PDF format? Microsoft, afterall, is trying to promote their own PDF version at the expense of Adobe by integrating it into the new verison of Office from my understanding...
Considering how much the European Commission (EC) has advocated open source software in their own common market, you'd think they'd be going after the European subsidiaries of SCO. The EC certainly is not afraid of Microsoft, Boeing or AOL, so why should they be afraid to go after the pipsqueaks that constitute SCO? Their [SCO's] business/legal behaviors have to run counter to some European trade law somewhere on the books.
The last time Microsoft got behind in developing a consumer edition of Windows (XP), they brought out another edition of the previous OS (Win9x), that having been the failure known as WinME. With Longhorn delayed again, this is going to present Microsoft with a challenge in convincing Joe Blow to buy a new PC with a shiny "new" OS. I think this means we'll see shrink-wrapped editions of XP Media Center Edition with some other cosmetic changes hitting the stores shelves in Q4 2004... I guess that means Earthlink will once again blame Microsoft for not giving them ample enough time to rewrite their software so it works with the new edition (Earthlink's software, especially for DSL users, wouldn't work with WinME for weeks after the release - they blamed Microsoft for that - yet AOL was patched up quickly in comparison)...That is, if Earthlink is still in business by then...
I guess its time (since this sparked my interest) to get a Wacom writing tablet and start taking advantage of the handwriting recognition built into OS X Jaguar...:0
The last time I checked, bottled water costs a whole lot more than water from the tap. And the markup is far more excessive than the cost of the plastic bottle. Brand name T-shirts may cost pennies to produce in a third-world country, but still will cost you $20 to purchase at the mall. Our world is full of inconsistencies.
Perhaps Apple should decree that all gaming for Macs should be certified to run better with SMP...perhaps create an incentive program for designers/publishers to take advantage of this... Come to think of it, Microsoft could do the same in the PC marketplace. This would be a great reason to move up to WinXP Pro...
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Uhm, fact check, you can run Linux on Mac *proprietary hardware* (ie. non-x86). It even made it to Slashdot news that the U.S. Navy bought Mac hardware recently specifically to run Linux...
what do you define as *useful*? To my knowledge, id Software games have always supported dual processors. I believe Unreal and other FPS type games support dual processors if the user is running WinXP Pro (and prior "Pro" editions). I'm sure other readers will point out that dual-processors have never boosted gaming performance as greatly on the Windows platforms as what would've taken place on say the BeOS platform (when it was PPC based) since that particular OS was designed from the ground-up for dual processor support. Or...say on the Atari "Gaza" computer that used a pair of Motorola 68000 chips running in parallel and a custom version of C/PM68k, but I won't go any further since that system never made it out of "secret" lab...:) Here's a link: http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/16bits/sierra.html
I was actually giving SCO a benefit of the doubt (ha ha!) and assume they actually have new products in the backburner... As it stands, customers might be scared into 1. not trusting Linux and won't use Unix either; 2. won't purchase Sun's IP-protected Solaris offerings due to expensive hardware; 3. cannot trust IBM because they might not legally be able to offer AIX coupled with them [IBM] not indemnifying their own customers; 4. might not trust HP to continue to support HP-UX in light of these lawsuits; 5. still won't give Apple a chance with their IP-protected Mac OS X (BSD) offerings for the very same reason offered in No. 2. Who wins under those assumptions? Microsoft.
D, thanks for the info on that. Unfortunately, while those boards do offer some of the features I mentioned, none of them offer dual chip support. Nvidia has a reputation amongst gamers, and they could shore up their marketshare amongst gamers who build their own PCs by offering chipsets with the features I mentioned along with dual processor support. Removing legacy components is crucial for saving space on the mobos so that dual chip solutions are possible. Perhaps offering a mobo design like I mentioned with 6 PCI slots might asking for too much, considering not only spacing issues for the second processor, but also heat issues. I'd go for 5 or 4 PCI slots if there was adequate spacing inbetween the start of the PCI row and the end of the AGP slot since graphics cards are notorious for "spilling over" and thus wasting the first PCI slot anyway. Keeping a large number of PCI slots on the board ensures the end user has choice; perhaps they want some of the legacy components so they could purchase a PCI card that offered serial or parallel connections and still have enough slots guaranteed for a modem (don't make it a standard feature of the mobo please!), a soundcard (they might want to stick with the Soundblaster line), or something else that has completely slipped my mind (a good MPEG2/4 decoder card). And with that, I would like to prognosticate here: I predict a return of SLI mode to videocards once PCI-X becomes the marketplace standard...
Are we viewing this whole situation too narrowly? We all know Microsoft wants Linux and the GPL discredited and that is why they "licensed" (ahem...opinion here, money laundering) SCO's intellectual property. But isn't this a two-front business war they are playing? Think about it. They provide the capital to fund SCO's drive to discredit Linux. But in turn, SCO has destroyed any corporate goodwill they might've had in the process, thus discrediting independent Unix (not tied to hardware, such as HP, IBM and Sun) as a solution. So in effect, Microsoft through its proxy combatant [SCO] is effectively hurting Linux AND Unix all at the same time. I understand now why Microsoft indemnified its customers, conveniently before SCO raised their asking price from $1 billion to $3 billion in the lawsuit against IBM...
I think Nvidia should bring to the market an NForce chipset not only supporting dual Athlon64 chips, but also the AthlonXP/MP series. With 64bit WindowsXP delayed until next year, they [Nvidia] could really score with gamers with the dual XP chipset rig...perhaps AMD should give them a call...And please, Nvidia, go Apple's route and drop the legacy support. Drop the floppy port, the serial/PS2 ports, the parallel port, etc. The market needs USB2, Firewire, Wifi, Ethernet (some might wish for Gigabit)Bluetooth, SATA (and with RAID), 4 DIMM slots (not 3), and 5 or 6 PCI slots...thank you...
No it wasn't. The first computer virus for personal computers appeared on the Commodore Amiga, NOT the Apple Macintosh. Maybe you got those two systems confused since they both came standard with *useful* GUIs long before the x86 market did. Or perhaps because they also shared the same CPU, the Motorola 68000. And let us not forget about the Atari ST line either...
What is the screen resolution they [Sun] were displaying Mad Hatter at? Now the main thing to remember is how small a price Linux is compared to keeping up with Microsoft licensing. Maybe Sun is showing that a corporation can remain vibrant while keeping their old IT purchases whereas renewing the Microsoft licensing and keeping up with their OS releases would require purchasing new machines with Pentium IV's (or if they are lucky, AthlonXP's). But if Linux is going to be the best barring price alone, it is going to have to come out with a better GUI. My parents just bought a Mac and I am very impressed with how the GUI uses OpenGL/hardware accelleration for even the most basic things. And of course Longhorn will have its own version using DirectX in late 2005...just some points to consider...
the other helpful thing to point out is Linux is free, whereas to get Mac OSX, you have to buy a Mac...and Macs still have more marketshare than the free alternative... This is not meant to be flamebait, its meant to state fact as based upon commonly held statistics...
great analogy. And it fits with the real world because only about 2 to 3% of the Slashdot readers will actually have an attractive woman that has the looks and performs as well as Mac OSX... It exactly matches Apple's market share!
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are you high or simply "ignant" of history? Who do you think opened the world's first bank? Answer, the prostitutes of Babylon. They were the high-priestesses in Babylon, which definitely made their church services a whole lot more enjoyable than any Christian denomination (sic), alligator wrestling or not. You might also look to ancient Greek civilization. They practically worshipped a prostitute class of women who actually were educated.
...How'd Joss pull this one off? This property [Firefly] is deader than the parents on *Party of Five*! (props to the Bloodhound Gang)...
Make mine Nvidia! (on the x86 platform)... Otherwise, its Mac all the way... So how much money does everyone think Phoenix is receiving from Microsoft for this Palladium-esque *feature*?
Go from 1996 to 2000. Speaking of the year 2000, I bet you voted in Florida, didn't you?
Does anyone else think the reason HP won't automatically install Linux on these offerings is because they are trying to shield themselves from any litigation from SCO while trying to make a quick buck of Linux enthusiasts? (or, perhaps their contract with Microsoft states HP cannot ship any PCs with any other installed operating systems or they'd lose their special pricing on Windows). If they [HP] ship them [PCs] without Mandrake installed, I guess they [HP] can claim they are only selling bare-bones systems and that liability for the Linux OS would fall upon Mandrake (who quite possibliy is paying HP a bundling expense) and the end user for installing it of their own free choice. Therefore HP would escape any liability of directly distributing the allegedly IP infringing Linux operating system...
I'd love to see the RIAA claim that the MP3's of the late Wesley Willis I downloaded the other day are worth $150k per violation. I think they'd [the RIAA] would be laughed out of the courtroom if the Judge allowed me to play "Rock n Roll McDonalds" or some of the artist's other charming ditties...
HP invests a lot of money into research and development. HP funds Debian. What does Dell do? Sponge off the industry. For all that myself and many others here on Slashdot say about Microsoft, they too spend a lot of their money on R&D. Dell does none of this. Just as the personalities at Sun claim, Dell is a bank (or, more like a pawn shop). They used the same case for their midrange PCs for almost 4 years! At least for a while with Gateway they used AMD Athlons while Dell continues to string AMD along. In my eyes, Dell is no better than the federal government; the companies that win contracts to supply Dell with parts for their PCs are the lowest bidder. Someone send me an email when Alienware starts bundling a Linux distribution with their machines...
The computer simply does not recognize members of the "attractively challenged" brigade...
Does anybody know if they've encoded the documents to where you cannot convert them to PDF format? Microsoft, afterall, is trying to promote their own PDF version at the expense of Adobe by integrating it into the new verison of Office from my understanding...
Considering how much the European Commission (EC) has advocated open source software in their own common market, you'd think they'd be going after the European subsidiaries of SCO. The EC certainly is not afraid of Microsoft, Boeing or AOL, so why should they be afraid to go after the pipsqueaks that constitute SCO? Their [SCO's] business/legal behaviors have to run counter to some European trade law somewhere on the books.
The last time Microsoft got behind in developing a consumer edition of Windows (XP), they brought out another edition of the previous OS (Win9x), that having been the failure known as WinME. With Longhorn delayed again, this is going to present Microsoft with a challenge in convincing Joe Blow to buy a new PC with a shiny "new" OS. I think this means we'll see shrink-wrapped editions of XP Media Center Edition with some other cosmetic changes hitting the stores shelves in Q4 2004... I guess that means Earthlink will once again blame Microsoft for not giving them ample enough time to rewrite their software so it works with the new edition (Earthlink's software, especially for DSL users, wouldn't work with WinME for weeks after the release - they blamed Microsoft for that - yet AOL was patched up quickly in comparison)...That is, if Earthlink is still in business by then...
I guess its time (since this sparked my interest) to get a Wacom writing tablet and start taking advantage of the handwriting recognition built into OS X Jaguar... :0
The last time I checked, bottled water costs a whole lot more than water from the tap. And the markup is far more excessive than the cost of the plastic bottle. Brand name T-shirts may cost pennies to produce in a third-world country, but still will cost you $20 to purchase at the mall. Our world is full of inconsistencies.
Perhaps Apple should decree that all gaming for Macs should be certified to run better with SMP...perhaps create an incentive program for designers/publishers to take advantage of this... Come to think of it, Microsoft could do the same in the PC marketplace. This would be a great reason to move up to WinXP Pro...
Uhm, fact check, you can run Linux on Mac *proprietary hardware* (ie. non-x86). It even made it to Slashdot news that the U.S. Navy bought Mac hardware recently specifically to run Linux...
You wouldn't deny that Solaris runs best on Sun hardware, right? I'd venture to say the same thing about Darwin (OS X)... :)
what do you define as *useful*? To my knowledge, id Software games have always supported dual processors. I believe Unreal and other FPS type games support dual processors if the user is running WinXP Pro (and prior "Pro" editions). I'm sure other readers will point out that dual-processors have never boosted gaming performance as greatly on the Windows platforms as what would've taken place on say the BeOS platform (when it was PPC based) since that particular OS was designed from the ground-up for dual processor support. Or...say on the Atari "Gaza" computer that used a pair of Motorola 68000 chips running in parallel and a custom version of C/PM68k, but I won't go any further since that system never made it out of "secret" lab... :) Here's a link: http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/16bits/sierra .html
I was actually giving SCO a benefit of the doubt (ha ha!) and assume they actually have new products in the backburner... As it stands, customers might be scared into 1. not trusting Linux and won't use Unix either; 2. won't purchase Sun's IP-protected Solaris offerings due to expensive hardware; 3. cannot trust IBM because they might not legally be able to offer AIX coupled with them [IBM] not indemnifying their own customers; 4. might not trust HP to continue to support HP-UX in light of these lawsuits; 5. still won't give Apple a chance with their IP-protected Mac OS X (BSD) offerings for the very same reason offered in No. 2. Who wins under those assumptions? Microsoft.
D, thanks for the info on that. Unfortunately, while those boards do offer some of the features I mentioned, none of them offer dual chip support. Nvidia has a reputation amongst gamers, and they could shore up their marketshare amongst gamers who build their own PCs by offering chipsets with the features I mentioned along with dual processor support. Removing legacy components is crucial for saving space on the mobos so that dual chip solutions are possible. Perhaps offering a mobo design like I mentioned with 6 PCI slots might asking for too much, considering not only spacing issues for the second processor, but also heat issues. I'd go for 5 or 4 PCI slots if there was adequate spacing inbetween the start of the PCI row and the end of the AGP slot since graphics cards are notorious for "spilling over" and thus wasting the first PCI slot anyway. Keeping a large number of PCI slots on the board ensures the end user has choice; perhaps they want some of the legacy components so they could purchase a PCI card that offered serial or parallel connections and still have enough slots guaranteed for a modem (don't make it a standard feature of the mobo please!), a soundcard (they might want to stick with the Soundblaster line), or something else that has completely slipped my mind (a good MPEG2/4 decoder card). And with that, I would like to prognosticate here: I predict a return of SLI mode to videocards once PCI-X becomes the marketplace standard...
Are we viewing this whole situation too narrowly? We all know Microsoft wants Linux and the GPL discredited and that is why they "licensed" (ahem...opinion here, money laundering) SCO's intellectual property. But isn't this a two-front business war they are playing? Think about it. They provide the capital to fund SCO's drive to discredit Linux. But in turn, SCO has destroyed any corporate goodwill they might've had in the process, thus discrediting independent Unix (not tied to hardware, such as HP, IBM and Sun) as a solution. So in effect, Microsoft through its proxy combatant [SCO] is effectively hurting Linux AND Unix all at the same time. I understand now why Microsoft indemnified its customers, conveniently before SCO raised their asking price from $1 billion to $3 billion in the lawsuit against IBM...
I think Nvidia should bring to the market an NForce chipset not only supporting dual Athlon64 chips, but also the AthlonXP/MP series. With 64bit WindowsXP delayed until next year, they [Nvidia] could really score with gamers with the dual XP chipset rig...perhaps AMD should give them a call...And please, Nvidia, go Apple's route and drop the legacy support. Drop the floppy port, the serial/PS2 ports, the parallel port, etc. The market needs USB2, Firewire, Wifi, Ethernet (some might wish for Gigabit)Bluetooth, SATA (and with RAID), 4 DIMM slots (not 3), and 5 or 6 PCI slots...thank you...
No it wasn't. The first computer virus for personal computers appeared on the Commodore Amiga, NOT the Apple Macintosh. Maybe you got those two systems confused since they both came standard with *useful* GUIs long before the x86 market did. Or perhaps because they also shared the same CPU, the Motorola 68000. And let us not forget about the Atari ST line either...
What is the screen resolution they [Sun] were displaying Mad Hatter at? Now the main thing to remember is how small a price Linux is compared to keeping up with Microsoft licensing. Maybe Sun is showing that a corporation can remain vibrant while keeping their old IT purchases whereas renewing the Microsoft licensing and keeping up with their OS releases would require purchasing new machines with Pentium IV's (or if they are lucky, AthlonXP's). But if Linux is going to be the best barring price alone, it is going to have to come out with a better GUI. My parents just bought a Mac and I am very impressed with how the GUI uses OpenGL/hardware accelleration for even the most basic things. And of course Longhorn will have its own version using DirectX in late 2005...just some points to consider...
the other helpful thing to point out is Linux is free, whereas to get Mac OSX, you have to buy a Mac...and Macs still have more marketshare than the free alternative... This is not meant to be flamebait, its meant to state fact as based upon commonly held statistics...
great analogy. And it fits with the real world because only about 2 to 3% of the Slashdot readers will actually have an attractive woman that has the looks and performs as well as Mac OSX... It exactly matches Apple's market share!