Open Office can save to all of those formats. It isn't scriptable, but all those outputs are done easily enough. Has that been taken into consideration or am I off base on what you are looking for?
I'll be buying it regardless of it working on my hardware or not. A game that works natively in Linux that I'd be interested in regardless is definitely something I am going to support. My friends who aren't Linux users are even excited about it, not even through me. Should be fun hopefully. If it sucks in the long run, so do most other games.
I'm not too worried about the demo not working, I've got other pcs in the house that I'm currently switching my os on that I'll be trying it on. Going out to buy a copy of the game with a friend today, and will be worrying about setting it up then. Thanks for the help, I'm definitely excited to get the game working, just didn't have the time last night and didn't want to waste it if it wasn't going to work with the card. Thanks again.
Tried to get it to work on my Gentoo Linux install, using a Radeon 7200 with xfree drm... Ran it as root to make sure it wasn't a problem with anything in a normal user blocking it, and it rendered like complete crap. The mouse cursor was a block, none of the graphics had color or textures, and it was completely unplayable. Anyone able to make it work with an older Radeon?
A trap? What would be the method of detection and selection for those that go into the trap? I don't understand what you are trying to get at with that comment. If it's a trap that would detect "You're not supposed to be able to do this" and 2% of players do... You just banned 1000+ legit players for no reason. That's the issue at hand with that kind of a detection method.
As I've said, they aren't detecting it. This is FUD, and they just banned groups of botters.
I agree, it's a complete FUD campaign. Target people who they obviously can target, and scare the others.
There are lots of reasons for being tagged. You used to get tagged if you would hit too many monsters too fast. I saw this in full effect with a whirl wind barb I had... Very retarded.
You'd think they would go after the people doing the malicious hacks, not the people doing self helping or hacks that actually help others, wouldn't you? Shows where their priorities are.
How difficult would it be to objectively do this for thousands of accounts? It's obviously doable, but that's not the way Blizzard has made it sound. They are acting as if they can detect it through another method. Other than recording every action a player does and analyzing it to see if she can go from point A to point B too quickly, it's not doable. Do you honestly believe that it would make sense for a large company to view all that data just to ban its players? Or do you believe a company that can't even patch its own game would make a server side program to analyse all that data so reliably to be able to ban people based on it?
Hehe... Really? Was it a script issue with setting it up or just getting the program to run in general? If you looked at the credits, I have somewhat of a vested interest in that bot considering I wrote it... Hehe
I don't play anymore, so this doesn't effect me in the least other than to scoff at the fact that they are doing this for PR and to conserve bandwidth... What better way to do than get rid of the "undesirables", even though they're leaving people that are even worse to go along their merry way. A blanket deletion of dupes and then a change in gameplay to prevent botting would be more than welcomed by me and most players I believe. It's only an issue where to be on level with another player, you have to find some way to gain an advantage. Normal play does not cut it anymore. Which is sad, and needs to be fixed.
It's a money issue. Your bot uses bandwidth, their dupes are static and don't require any of that bandwidth, which means money. By the way, what bot were you running?
They most definitely have NOT touched any of the duped items. It's just a move to preserve their bandwidth at this point. They want people to move on to other games, and stop playing the ones that are no longer making money. This is the third round of Diablo II bannings, but they haven't taken the time to do a wipe of accounts that have bugged or duped items. It wouldn't be hard to do such a detection. They just choose not to.
First off, the current map hack is just fine. There is no part of it that is detectable unless they scan resident memory. I was just talking with the guy who made that program today, and his accounts are fine, along with other people who used it. The accounts that got banned were using other things, such as bots for the game. When a program sends no packets, and in no way changes anything besides what is on a display client side, there is no way to detect it without scanning that client, something they are not doing to anyone's knowledge at this point.
He's talking about Nintendo struggling, but isn't the Xbox having a battle with Nintendo for second place for worldwide sales? If Nintendo is struggling and lagging behind, and the fight for gaming hardware supremacy is between the Xbox, PC, and PS2, why isn't the Xbox outselling the Gamecube? Last time I heard, wasn't Nintendo slightly ahead of them?
I'm convinced with Thunderbird. I'm using it on my Linux and my dad's Windows box. Imported his Outlook Express contacts into Thunderbird without a hitch, and then did the same with the old messages. It didn't get the attachments though, but that's a minor thing in my opinion unless your mail consists mainly of that.
I haven't had a crash or an annoying problem yet, and it has white list support, and a bayesian spam filter built in. Plans are in place for black lists as well, and it has most of the nice features of Mozilla Firebird including extensions and themes. It looks to be shaping up to be a great client.
That's the issue... No outside communication from the destroyed areas to the outside areas. It doesn't do enough good to be able to communicate in that area, transmissions being relayed out is the key.
So if Joe Blow posts Windows Server 2000 (or whatever) on Kazaa, and I download it, am I free to use it in a production environment?
Standard IANAL applies, but if you don't install it, most likely you would be in a lot less trouble. The difference being, that there is an agreement you have to click to use Windows 2000. It's different from unknowingly using a piece of something from someone else. You are knowingly agreeing to your rights involving that software.
Anyhow, it's comparing parts to a whole... If something is free or cheap, and someone demands an outrageous amount of money from the users because small portions could be something they created... How does that make sense compared to stealing an entire operating system? The issue at hand is more closely related to Joe Blow distributing Windows with a sprinking of some Solaris code, and then Solaris demanding that you pay for their entire operating system.
Yes, the way Gentoo comes it completely bare bones. It doesn't even come with X compiled after all the initial installs to get the main os running. With the media player though, it isn't so much dependency hell as it is that the open source mplayer can't distribute the propietary drivers along with it, so they have to be installed seperately to get the drivers that are actually going to work with those files.
Use flags could handle that possibly, but also to emerge realplayer you have to go download the realplayer package from their site because of the forms you have to fill out. There are a lot of annoying issues with the media players right now which I think make it difficult for a source distro to be able to distribute the proper codecs and drivers for the files to play properly.
If you're talking about multimedia support, a lot of the problems with that have to do with the fact that you CAN'T package drivers for Quicktime and Realplayer directly. It's the exact same reason that Windows Media Player has dropped support.
You get around this easily with the binary distros just because they package everything in there. That includes the Realplayer and Quicktime junk, but you can't download the mplayer or Xine source along with those codecs to my knowledge.
I assume that is what you were meaning since you mentioned Quicktime in there. If there are other problems, I haven't ran into them yet with my Gentoo install. Any problem you may have anyhow is most likely documented someplace on the gentoo.org website anyhow.
Oh so very true. Jag would have been glad to work with great programmers like Cigamit and Smoke. Both definitely know what they are doing. As it were, the people in charge of the website kicked njaguar out, because both webmasters could not read his code, and assumed it was a trojan.
How sad is that? Think of the potential of things had it not been for the idiocy of 2 people. d2jsp came after JED. Why? Because njaguar was banned for writing good code. A lot of people followed him over to his new project, and many more sense.
That's where we stand today. A petty war between children, started by adults, at this point. Could it have been handled better by everyone? Yeah sure... Does it matter at this point? No, not at all. We accomplished what we set out to do, and we had fun doing it. Regardless of what could be said, we got what we wanted, and any of the true upstanding adults on the other side did as well.
Thanks for starting out everything Smoke. It was your code that initially got me heavily into the tech world. Regardless of what has been said between people, thanks for that.
Everyones opinion on this seems to be negative, but what is so horrible about it? It has made money for many people involved... For kids that just want to find items, but don't have the time to sit there and do a boring task to get them, they can have the bot play the boring part while they do the fun part. Is there something wrong and horrible with that? Everyone involved has had a great time coding or playing the part of the game they want to... Not every aspect of a video game is meant for everyone, so why force yourself to do the boring part to compete at the fun part?
If something could do your job for you (better than you), and all you wanted to do was spend time with your significant other or party, would you take that oppurtunity? For someone who loves a game, it's the same thing.
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Open Office can save to all of those formats. It isn't scriptable, but all those outputs are done easily enough. Has that been taken into consideration or am I off base on what you are looking for?
I'll be buying it regardless of it working on my hardware or not. A game that works natively in Linux that I'd be interested in regardless is definitely something I am going to support. My friends who aren't Linux users are even excited about it, not even through me. Should be fun hopefully. If it sucks in the long run, so do most other games.
I'm not too worried about the demo not working, I've got other pcs in the house that I'm currently switching my os on that I'll be trying it on. Going out to buy a copy of the game with a friend today, and will be worrying about setting it up then. Thanks for the help, I'm definitely excited to get the game working, just didn't have the time last night and didn't want to waste it if it wasn't going to work with the card. Thanks again.
Tried to get it to work on my Gentoo Linux install, using a Radeon 7200 with xfree drm... Ran it as root to make sure it wasn't a problem with anything in a normal user blocking it, and it rendered like complete crap. The mouse cursor was a block, none of the graphics had color or textures, and it was completely unplayable. Anyone able to make it work with an older Radeon?
A trap? What would be the method of detection and selection for those that go into the trap? I don't understand what you are trying to get at with that comment. If it's a trap that would detect "You're not supposed to be able to do this" and 2% of players do... You just banned 1000+ legit players for no reason. That's the issue at hand with that kind of a detection method.
As I've said, they aren't detecting it. This is FUD, and they just banned groups of botters.
I agree, it's a complete FUD campaign. Target people who they obviously can target, and scare the others.
There are lots of reasons for being tagged. You used to get tagged if you would hit too many monsters too fast. I saw this in full effect with a whirl wind barb I had... Very retarded.
You'd think they would go after the people doing the malicious hacks, not the people doing self helping or hacks that actually help others, wouldn't you? Shows where their priorities are.
How difficult would it be to objectively do this for thousands of accounts? It's obviously doable, but that's not the way Blizzard has made it sound. They are acting as if they can detect it through another method. Other than recording every action a player does and analyzing it to see if she can go from point A to point B too quickly, it's not doable. Do you honestly believe that it would make sense for a large company to view all that data just to ban its players? Or do you believe a company that can't even patch its own game would make a server side program to analyse all that data so reliably to be able to ban people based on it?
Hehe... Really? Was it a script issue with setting it up or just getting the program to run in general? If you looked at the credits, I have somewhat of a vested interest in that bot considering I wrote it... Hehe
I don't play anymore, so this doesn't effect me in the least other than to scoff at the fact that they are doing this for PR and to conserve bandwidth... What better way to do than get rid of the "undesirables", even though they're leaving people that are even worse to go along their merry way. A blanket deletion of dupes and then a change in gameplay to prevent botting would be more than welcomed by me and most players I believe. It's only an issue where to be on level with another player, you have to find some way to gain an advantage. Normal play does not cut it anymore. Which is sad, and needs to be fixed.
It's a money issue. Your bot uses bandwidth, their dupes are static and don't require any of that bandwidth, which means money. By the way, what bot were you running?
They most definitely have NOT touched any of the duped items. It's just a move to preserve their bandwidth at this point. They want people to move on to other games, and stop playing the ones that are no longer making money. This is the third round of Diablo II bannings, but they haven't taken the time to do a wipe of accounts that have bugged or duped items. It wouldn't be hard to do such a detection. They just choose not to.
First off, the current map hack is just fine. There is no part of it that is detectable unless they scan resident memory. I was just talking with the guy who made that program today, and his accounts are fine, along with other people who used it. The accounts that got banned were using other things, such as bots for the game. When a program sends no packets, and in no way changes anything besides what is on a display client side, there is no way to detect it without scanning that client, something they are not doing to anyone's knowledge at this point.
He's talking about Nintendo struggling, but isn't the Xbox having a battle with Nintendo for second place for worldwide sales? If Nintendo is struggling and lagging behind, and the fight for gaming hardware supremacy is between the Xbox, PC, and PS2, why isn't the Xbox outselling the Gamecube? Last time I heard, wasn't Nintendo slightly ahead of them?
I'm convinced with Thunderbird. I'm using it on my Linux and my dad's Windows box. Imported his Outlook Express contacts into Thunderbird without a hitch, and then did the same with the old messages. It didn't get the attachments though, but that's a minor thing in my opinion unless your mail consists mainly of that.
I haven't had a crash or an annoying problem yet, and it has white list support, and a bayesian spam filter built in. Plans are in place for black lists as well, and it has most of the nice features of Mozilla Firebird including extensions and themes. It looks to be shaping up to be a great client.
That's the issue... No outside communication from the destroyed areas to the outside areas. It doesn't do enough good to be able to communicate in that area, transmissions being relayed out is the key.
Standard IANAL applies, but if you don't install it, most likely you would be in a lot less trouble. The difference being, that there is an agreement you have to click to use Windows 2000. It's different from unknowingly using a piece of something from someone else. You are knowingly agreeing to your rights involving that software.
Anyhow, it's comparing parts to a whole... If something is free or cheap, and someone demands an outrageous amount of money from the users because small portions could be something they created... How does that make sense compared to stealing an entire operating system? The issue at hand is more closely related to Joe Blow distributing Windows with a sprinking of some Solaris code, and then Solaris demanding that you pay for their entire operating system.
Since Disney is involved with Linux, I can tell her that those bastards at SCO are trying to find Nemo too... So they can sue him.
Yes, the way Gentoo comes it completely bare bones. It doesn't even come with X compiled after all the initial installs to get the main os running. With the media player though, it isn't so much dependency hell as it is that the open source mplayer can't distribute the propietary drivers along with it, so they have to be installed seperately to get the drivers that are actually going to work with those files.
Use flags could handle that possibly, but also to emerge realplayer you have to go download the realplayer package from their site because of the forms you have to fill out. There are a lot of annoying issues with the media players right now which I think make it difficult for a source distro to be able to distribute the proper codecs and drivers for the files to play properly.
If you're talking about multimedia support, a lot of the problems with that have to do with the fact that you CAN'T package drivers for Quicktime and Realplayer directly. It's the exact same reason that Windows Media Player has dropped support. You get around this easily with the binary distros just because they package everything in there. That includes the Realplayer and Quicktime junk, but you can't download the mplayer or Xine source along with those codecs to my knowledge. I assume that is what you were meaning since you mentioned Quicktime in there. If there are other problems, I haven't ran into them yet with my Gentoo install. Any problem you may have anyhow is most likely documented someplace on the gentoo.org website anyhow.
Oh so very true. Jag would have been glad to work with great programmers like Cigamit and Smoke. Both definitely know what they are doing. As it were, the people in charge of the website kicked njaguar out, because both webmasters could not read his code, and assumed it was a trojan. How sad is that? Think of the potential of things had it not been for the idiocy of 2 people. d2jsp came after JED. Why? Because njaguar was banned for writing good code. A lot of people followed him over to his new project, and many more sense. That's where we stand today. A petty war between children, started by adults, at this point. Could it have been handled better by everyone? Yeah sure... Does it matter at this point? No, not at all. We accomplished what we set out to do, and we had fun doing it. Regardless of what could be said, we got what we wanted, and any of the true upstanding adults on the other side did as well. Thanks for starting out everything Smoke. It was your code that initially got me heavily into the tech world. Regardless of what has been said between people, thanks for that.
Everyones opinion on this seems to be negative, but what is so horrible about it? It has made money for many people involved... For kids that just want to find items, but don't have the time to sit there and do a boring task to get them, they can have the bot play the boring part while they do the fun part. Is there something wrong and horrible with that? Everyone involved has had a great time coding or playing the part of the game they want to... Not every aspect of a video game is meant for everyone, so why force yourself to do the boring part to compete at the fun part? If something could do your job for you (better than you), and all you wanted to do was spend time with your significant other or party, would you take that oppurtunity? For someone who loves a game, it's the same thing.