A) the PS3 does the home media player thing natively, without running any version of Linux, right from the XMB. I watch video and listen to music from my Linux media servers with it all the time.
B) the PS3 runs _full_ (not stripped-down) versions of Linux that will run within its memory limitations and don't require 3D acceleration. I fail to see how a media client requires 3D accelerated graphics.
Considering the raw power of the cell processor to do video processing and scaling, you should be able to stream and scale very high quality video in full 1080p using the PS3 from say MPlayer or something, but since the native XMB already does this (with scaling, with full DivX support), I don't think many people are bothering to try.
Would a weather channel and Tetris and E-mail app be cool? Sure. Oh yeah, those don't require 3D acceleration and will all run very happily in 256MB of RAM.
What's with the FUD exactly? Try "but the Wii's cheaper" next time -- at least that's true.
The PS3 does not have a spectacular video card. If you want to play with high end 3D graphics programming, go do it on your PC. The PS3 has a CBE chip and if you want to program one of those, you can do so on a PS3 freely and without breaking any rules.
If you'd like a PS3 development kit to try your hand at 3D game development, you can order one of those from Sony.
If you just want to do 3D on your desktop, then the PS3 is not the platform you're looking for. Yes, as a result of being designed primarily as a gaming system it has some limitations built in, some of which may very possibly be because of a certain third party's graphics hardware that that same third party won't release details on to Linux enthusiasts elsewhere either.
That said, no matter how much FUD you sling, the PS3 still allows you to legally and without violating any licenses or agreements, install alternate OSs on its hard drive running inside its hypervisor. Personally, that's pretty cool to hack around with and I know I'm not the only one who enjoys playing with SPE programming.
Feel free to believe that 3D graphics hardware is the be all and end all of systems programming though. You'd be wrong though.
Being a bigot can often invalidate one's argument. Perhaps not one's point, but one's argument for sure. Your point may be valid, but arguing it as a simple bigot makes you sound like you have no valid reasoning skills behind your viewpoint.
My 'red herring' was not one, as you obviously can't figure out that the ease of installation of MySQL is the very reason so many new and unprofessional SQL users choose the software. As a result, a great number of MySQL users are of this caliber. This does not reflect poorly on the product's quality, such as your original comment implied, but positively on its ease of use.
Being able to actually argue a point with actual refutable reasons gives one a reason to be listened to. Making wild accusations about quality and maturity of a project or its users with no actual facts on which to base them makes one a simple bigot. Perhaps a bigoted simpleton. And while I accept that many knowledgeable persons can become bigoted as a result of their knowledge, an inability to communicate their own reasoning which led to that bigotry does not implicitly make them right anywhere but in their own minds.
What's this proprietary thing you speak of? IBM has free SDKs for the CBE (Cell Broadband Engine), the PS3 itself can have Linux loaded on it (mine runs Ubuntu for the record) and the documentation on how to program it is very public.
Even the game development platform for the PS3 is highly based on open source and free software toolkits. Stop with the FUD.
Lots of things were introduced in 5.x that would require its use over 4.x. As for writing your own storage back-end, there are a lot of those already too. SQLite comes to mind, along with Zope's object storage which I use extensively in some applications and simple BDB file structures as well.
I'd love some proof on that 'children' comment. MySQL is a low rung in price, but there are much lower rungs to be had -- SQLite comes to mind even.
The fact that MySQL is easy to configure and easy to use should not be used against it -- and it is for those reasons that so many people with very little SQL skill have been introduced to a SQL server. Had Postgres' developers made it half as easy to install and manage on my machines 10 years ago, many people would now be using it instead.
As it stands today, MySQL is an excellent platform for relational database development. It has limitations, and there are better products, but not everyone is writing (for a random example) VISA's payment processing system.
Do your own homework. Price out a Wii with a nunchuck and a second controller set for a friend and a game.
Now price out a PS3 with a second controller and a game.
The Nintendo Wii is almost $300. The PS3 is available for $400. The price of Wii controllers is almost double the price of PS3 controllers. The math isn't that hard -- you're just believing some hype someone fed you over a year ago obviously.
I'm glad someone else is believing the hype they read online. Some of us aren't about the pixel count, but don't like our eyes going cross-eyed trying to read the text in adventure games or making out the targets in games involving shooters.
The PS3 is not expensive, percentage-wise its now very competitive with the Wii (not just with the 360). The PS3 has a base of excellent exclusive software that is very fun and unmatched elsewhere. So does the Wii. The 360 I must say has very few exclusives I find compelling.
PS, if you own an HDTV and don't see Blu-Ray as being valuable for your movie watching, then you need either new glasses or a new sound system for your livingroom.
The Wii is a great platform for its type of games, and the PS3 is a great platform for HD gaming, music listening, video watching, network video streaming (in HD), an open platform that can be used for software development and runs Linux, and is standards based and isn't restrictive like Microsoft or Nintendo. Look at photo exporting in Burnout, save game exporting in Burnout, level importing for Unreal III, etc. for developers who've benefited from openness on Sony's platform compared to the others.
But, in this story, Final Fantasy is going to be opened to a larger market this way, that's all its about. Final Fantasy was never about pushing a platform to its limits in-game. Maybe now cut-scenes will be real-time, but maybe not. I can't wait to see if it can render as beautifully as Ratchet & Clank or Uncharted for the PS3 though.
You validated my point for me though -- conviction should require knowing the contents of the packets. No music, no movies, no Copyrighted works in general, no conviction. The use of Torrents or a Torrent server is not enough.
I'm sorry, I missed the day that Groupwise and Lotus notes became the predominant personal E-mail programs of the day.
As a matter of fact, yes, it does matter because IMAP E-mail is IMAP E-mail no matter where you are, and the fact we, the computer community, allowed major companies to sell us proprietary server systems that don't work as well is still beyond me.
But hey, I'm still using mutt with PGP auto-signing at home on my IMAP servers, what do I know.
There are some dialogs that are IMPOSSIBLE to navigate completely with a keyboard. The button bar at the top of the network configuration panel comes to mind. Hitting the right arrow key jumps to the next section, not the next button. TAB goes to the next window area, and so on.
I used to be on the Gnome human interface mailing list. I dropped off when it became apparent that those running it weren't paying attention to anyone but themselves and really didn't care what worked for the vast majority of people at all.
It was in fact a lot like dealing with Apple, but without the intelligence.
No good RSA support was a result of government interference for years and export restrictions. By the time most of those were lifted, most companies had given up or implemented alternatives. There were some very good PGP support E-mail programs back in the day -- I think one was called Pegasus, with nice little lock symbols and a key manager even.
I'm obviously a masochist. IPSec is easier to deploy than SMTP service, or a properly configured Apache+PHP server. IPSec is much easier to design than a good firewall, or a decent routing architecture, or DNS systems. Obviously you haven't worked enough with other major Internet protocols.
Last I checked, it takes me about 15 minutes, including the download time to configure a strong Openswan connection between two machines using IPSec. Download, open each machine in separate SSH sessions, copy and paste key IDs to the two config files, enter the IP addresses, save and restart IPSec. Done.
OpenSwan also supports doing encryption with peers based on certificates. Assuming we geeks agreed on a set of certificate authorities, we could have our opportunistic encryption.
As someone who still runs opportunistic encryption, I wish it would have worked out. It would be nice to have secure P2P connections for all sorts of traffic, whether its E-mail, chat, video conference or file transfers.
Personally, I always thought an online registry system like dyndns would be an excellent way to distribute keys. Update your keying data to match your current IP address using a pre-negotiated certificate with a known entity or registrar. Its very similar to their registration of names to IP addresses.
It wouldn't exactly be military grade security, but it would be a lot better than what we have now.
Untrue and irrelevant. NAT or no NAT, don't open inbound ports to service ports like this, EVER unless you're running a server that needs it.
If you're a normal user, you'd open (for example) an outbound port 53 UDP and TCP for DNS queries, and inbound replies (source port 53, NOT destination port). Preferably, your firewall software would have been made in the last 5 years and simply allow inbound replies automatically (otherwise you're just wide open).
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My PS3 upscales DVDs and plays DivX from network shares. It also plays BD movies.
Just saying :-)
You're right, and you're wrong.
A) the PS3 does the home media player thing natively, without running any version of Linux, right from the XMB. I watch video and listen to music from my Linux media servers with it all the time.
B) the PS3 runs _full_ (not stripped-down) versions of Linux that will run within its memory limitations and don't require 3D acceleration. I fail to see how a media client requires 3D accelerated graphics.
Considering the raw power of the cell processor to do video processing and scaling, you should be able to stream and scale very high quality video in full 1080p using the PS3 from say MPlayer or something, but since the native XMB already does this (with scaling, with full DivX support), I don't think many people are bothering to try.
Would a weather channel and Tetris and E-mail app be cool? Sure. Oh yeah, those don't require 3D acceleration and will all run very happily in 256MB of RAM.
What's with the FUD exactly? Try "but the Wii's cheaper" next time -- at least that's true.
The PS3 does not have a spectacular video card. If you want to play with high end 3D graphics programming, go do it on your PC. The PS3 has a CBE chip and if you want to program one of those, you can do so on a PS3 freely and without breaking any rules.
If you'd like a PS3 development kit to try your hand at 3D game development, you can order one of those from Sony.
If you just want to do 3D on your desktop, then the PS3 is not the platform you're looking for. Yes, as a result of being designed primarily as a gaming system it has some limitations built in, some of which may very possibly be because of a certain third party's graphics hardware that that same third party won't release details on to Linux enthusiasts elsewhere either.
That said, no matter how much FUD you sling, the PS3 still allows you to legally and without violating any licenses or agreements, install alternate OSs on its hard drive running inside its hypervisor. Personally, that's pretty cool to hack around with and I know I'm not the only one who enjoys playing with SPE programming.
Feel free to believe that 3D graphics hardware is the be all and end all of systems programming though. You'd be wrong though.
It sure is in the USA. Modifying your devices in ways that defeat built-in Copyright protection schemes is illegal because of the DMCA.
Who gets to define Copyright protection schemes? You certainly don't.
Being a bigot can often invalidate one's argument. Perhaps not one's point, but one's argument for sure. Your point may be valid, but arguing it as a simple bigot makes you sound like you have no valid reasoning skills behind your viewpoint.
My 'red herring' was not one, as you obviously can't figure out that the ease of installation of MySQL is the very reason so many new and unprofessional SQL users choose the software. As a result, a great number of MySQL users are of this caliber. This does not reflect poorly on the product's quality, such as your original comment implied, but positively on its ease of use.
Being able to actually argue a point with actual refutable reasons gives one a reason to be listened to. Making wild accusations about quality and maturity of a project or its users with no actual facts on which to base them makes one a simple bigot. Perhaps a bigoted simpleton. And while I accept that many knowledgeable persons can become bigoted as a result of their knowledge, an inability to communicate their own reasoning which led to that bigotry does not implicitly make them right anywhere but in their own minds.
Its actually a stripped-down Cell processor with 4 SPEs, instead of 8 (or the 7 the PS3 uses) and no PPE because of the Intel primary CPU.
What's this proprietary thing you speak of? IBM has free SDKs for the CBE (Cell Broadband Engine), the PS3 itself can have Linux loaded on it (mine runs Ubuntu for the record) and the documentation on how to program it is very public.
Even the game development platform for the PS3 is highly based on open source and free software toolkits. Stop with the FUD.
Which has easy to use multi-server replication now?
Lots of things were introduced in 5.x that would require its use over 4.x. As for writing your own storage back-end, there are a lot of those already too. SQLite comes to mind, along with Zope's object storage which I use extensively in some applications and simple BDB file structures as well.
I'd love some proof on that 'children' comment. MySQL is a low rung in price, but there are much lower rungs to be had -- SQLite comes to mind even.
The fact that MySQL is easy to configure and easy to use should not be used against it -- and it is for those reasons that so many people with very little SQL skill have been introduced to a SQL server. Had Postgres' developers made it half as easy to install and manage on my machines 10 years ago, many people would now be using it instead.
As it stands today, MySQL is an excellent platform for relational database development. It has limitations, and there are better products, but not everyone is writing (for a random example) VISA's payment processing system.
Your bigotry is apparent, and its just bigotry.
Do your own homework. Price out a Wii with a nunchuck and a second controller set for a friend and a game.
Now price out a PS3 with a second controller and a game.
The Nintendo Wii is almost $300. The PS3 is available for $400. The price of Wii controllers is almost double the price of PS3 controllers. The math isn't that hard -- you're just believing some hype someone fed you over a year ago obviously.
I was picturing said rock being thrown at a helicopter pilot. But that's just me :-)
And to give kudos to the reviewer, there were no spoilers of any material kind in the review given.
The previews 'spoiled' more of the movie than that review did.
Of course, I have a friend who won't watch movie previews because they ruin the movie.
I'm glad someone else is believing the hype they read online. Some of us aren't about the pixel count, but don't like our eyes going cross-eyed trying to read the text in adventure games or making out the targets in games involving shooters.
The PS3 is not expensive, percentage-wise its now very competitive with the Wii (not just with the 360). The PS3 has a base of excellent exclusive software that is very fun and unmatched elsewhere. So does the Wii. The 360 I must say has very few exclusives I find compelling.
PS, if you own an HDTV and don't see Blu-Ray as being valuable for your movie watching, then you need either new glasses or a new sound system for your livingroom.
The Wii is a great platform for its type of games, and the PS3 is a great platform for HD gaming, music listening, video watching, network video streaming (in HD), an open platform that can be used for software development and runs Linux, and is standards based and isn't restrictive like Microsoft or Nintendo. Look at photo exporting in Burnout, save game exporting in Burnout, level importing for Unreal III, etc. for developers who've benefited from openness on Sony's platform compared to the others.
But, in this story, Final Fantasy is going to be opened to a larger market this way, that's all its about. Final Fantasy was never about pushing a platform to its limits in-game. Maybe now cut-scenes will be real-time, but maybe not. I can't wait to see if it can render as beautifully as Ratchet & Clank or Uncharted for the PS3 though.
You validated my point for me though -- conviction should require knowing the contents of the packets. No music, no movies, no Copyrighted works in general, no conviction. The use of Torrents or a Torrent server is not enough.
I'm sorry, I missed the day that Groupwise and Lotus notes became the predominant personal E-mail programs of the day.
As a matter of fact, yes, it does matter because IMAP E-mail is IMAP E-mail no matter where you are, and the fact we, the computer community, allowed major companies to sell us proprietary server systems that don't work as well is still beyond me.
But hey, I'm still using mutt with PGP auto-signing at home on my IMAP servers, what do I know.
Actually no, I specified very clearly using OpenSWAN on both ends of the link for a reason.
There is no interoperability (slow Jedi hand wave) ...
There are some dialogs that are IMPOSSIBLE to navigate completely with a keyboard. The button bar at the top of the network configuration panel comes to mind. Hitting the right arrow key jumps to the next section, not the next button. TAB goes to the next window area, and so on.
I used to be on the Gnome human interface mailing list. I dropped off when it became apparent that those running it weren't paying attention to anyone but themselves and really didn't care what worked for the vast majority of people at all.
It was in fact a lot like dealing with Apple, but without the intelligence.
No good RSA support was a result of government interference for years and export restrictions. By the time most of those were lifted, most companies had given up or implemented alternatives. There were some very good PGP support E-mail programs back in the day -- I think one was called Pegasus, with nice little lock symbols and a key manager even.
I'm obviously a masochist. IPSec is easier to deploy than SMTP service, or a properly configured Apache+PHP server. IPSec is much easier to design than a good firewall, or a decent routing architecture, or DNS systems. Obviously you haven't worked enough with other major Internet protocols.
Last I checked, it takes me about 15 minutes, including the download time to configure a strong Openswan connection between two machines using IPSec. Download, open each machine in separate SSH sessions, copy and paste key IDs to the two config files, enter the IP addresses, save and restart IPSec. Done.
OpenSwan also supports doing encryption with peers based on certificates. Assuming we geeks agreed on a set of certificate authorities, we could have our opportunistic encryption.
See my thoughts from earlier.
No, they get your information as you specified. That doesn't get them a conviction though.
A conviction SHOULD require proof that you actually DID something illegal. That would require knowing what was in those packets.
Last I checked, my BitTorrent downloads are primarily Linux ISOs -- can't wait to get busted for those.
Its pretty sad really, I was running it from the start -- still use it for VPNs to clients and between client sites actually.
See my other post too.
As someone who still runs opportunistic encryption, I wish it would have worked out. It would be nice to have secure P2P connections for all sorts of traffic, whether its E-mail, chat, video conference or file transfers.
Personally, I always thought an online registry system like dyndns would be an excellent way to distribute keys. Update your keying data to match your current IP address using a pre-negotiated certificate with a known entity or registrar. Its very similar to their registration of names to IP addresses.
It wouldn't exactly be military grade security, but it would be a lot better than what we have now.
Untrue and irrelevant. NAT or no NAT, don't open inbound ports to service ports like this, EVER unless you're running a server that needs it.
If you're a normal user, you'd open (for example) an outbound port 53 UDP and TCP for DNS queries, and inbound replies (source port 53, NOT destination port). Preferably, your firewall software would have been made in the last 5 years and simply allow inbound replies automatically (otherwise you're just wide open).