bash uses shared libraries and sh doesn't. If you lose the/lib directory (or/usr/lib, or whatever), you lose the ability to log in if a system crashes to single user mode and the library file system didn't mount. Then it's boot to CD to recover which is great fun on a remote system (but not always impossible with virtual mounts, etc).
I'm curious as to the reasons behind this. Is there some inherent problem with perl that it's banned or is it just a requirement to maintain consistency?
Shell scripting is something I haven't felt the need to do in 5 years.
I'm guessing you're not a Unix Sysadmin any more?
If we were interviewing someone who said they hadn't written a shell script in 5 years, I'd have to spend some extra time querying the reasons and then think twice about hiring him. See, we use shell scripts. For init scripts, for simple tasks, for data gathering; loop through 300 systems getting the uptime for instance. Someone we hire would need to be able to perform maintenance on the scripts and hopefully not break an existing script or start using something like Python that the other sysadmins may not know and have to either learn in order to maintain your scripts or convert to regular shell scripts again.
See I've dealt with people who have their own little way of doing things. We had one sysadmin who felt Rexx was a great scripting language. Which was fine for him but when he left, we had to convert his scripts into a shell script in order to continue to maintain things.
So we have a rule that system scripts are done using a specific template, which is editable of course in case of need, which manages several aspects of system scripts including checking for multiple copies of the script and killing sessions if scp to a system hangs for some reason.
Then this past winter I got one when I found I was going to be "arm less" for six weeks due to shoulder surgery. I also wasn't sold on the device, but have quickly come around. In some ways it's actually more convenient to read than a paper book! And while my initial thought was "Buttons? I dunno, multi-touch is much better" - I now think the navigation buttons are a better way to go. You can easily turn pages on a Kindle using the same hand you're holding the "book", which is not true of an iPad - or even a paper book.
As a book hound as well, I have no problems turning pages on my iPad with one hand. A flick of the thumb and the page changes. And even in paperback as I hold a book in one hand and just relax the thumb a little to let a page go. Like both, it's not perfect as I don't give enough of a flick on the iPad for it to go or let too many pages go when relaxing my thumb.
Perhaps you should speak to your publishers to adjust book prices so they're not more expensive than paperback books. I have purchased some ebooks but only ones that I already have in hardback and love to read. Without a way to resell a book that doesn't appeal to me after purchase, I'm a lot less likely to purchase an ebook. I have purchased quite a few game PDFs because they're less than the paperback versions. Shadowrun core and supplements are $15 and $12 each on PDF.
The difference between them is that Elektro-L uses three bands in reflected light—red and two near infrared bands—while NASA's GOES doesn't have the near-infrared.
I pretty much get the same replies every time I mention it. "2002 is calling"."nVidia has bad drivers too." "I'm not having problems." "Troll." And of course folks who confirm they've had problems as well.
I have the current drivers for my cards. I've sent the card back and it's been returned as testing fine. I've been in computers for 31 years and built my share of systems so I'm no newb. The error is the atikmpag.sys video driver every time.
Even though the system has problems booting, once it's up it seldom has problems. The occasional screen reversing colors. I've suspected some heat related hardware issue (which was why I sent it back for testing) as it seems to be stable once up but even after running for a couple of hours, if I happen to reboot it, it can take a couple of blue screens before it finally comes up. And I have 50 Minidumps since Nov 17th and not every blue screen generates a minidump. At one point, it would simply cycle and power down.
Considering the limitations of Electronic Books; can't give them to friends or family to read, can't resell them, can't return them, can have them pulled without notice, the price is way too high.
I've purchased a few novels at the too high price since I got my iPad but so far only the ones I already have in paperback and really love to read. I have picked up a few 99 cent books at recommendation from others and generally they're an ok read.
I've spent a lot more on gaming PDFs, especially the non-watermarked DRM'd ones (Shadowrun from the Battlecorps website).
Ok, so this is a few years ago and anecdotal but there you go.
I got out of the Army in 82, spent a year doing odd jobs before landing a part time programming position in BASIC. In 1985 I went to Computer Learning Center to get better. Better training than the hobby and part time stuff I'd been doing and a chance at a better paying, full time job. The FORTRAN instructor was very good in teaching programming. The COBOL instructor was a screw-up who threw up on the grade book after a night of partying (the staff had to look at the grades from the reverse side) and lost several projects when they blew away in the parking lot (the affected folks had to redo their projects). In general I thought it was a pretty good set of training and even taught the COBOL Report Writer in class for extra credit.
Anyway, when I started looking for a full time position, I couldn't get past HR. This went on for several weeks until one HR woman said I should remove Computer Learning Center from my resume as they generally punted the resume once they see that.
I took it off and the next position I applied to offered me a programming position on an IBM System/23 and on the IBM PC AT programming Funeral Home and Point of Sales programs.
Depends. It could work either way. Either a queue of jokes (queue up the jokes) or cue the jokes. Taking it on face value, I suspect the OP meant "cue" but with English, dropping the "up" is common.
I would expect ethical behavior from any employee of mine. While spamming isn't illegal, it is pretty unethical. As an employer in the computer industry, I would likely not consider this person or any one who has worked at a spam related company. Ethical behavior is pretty high on most employers list of expected behavior, in part because it can adversely affect the company itself.
The problem with not being ethical is that he didn't think it was wrong. I'd hope that he learned that spamming wasn't ethical while in prison, but if he didn't or if it only identified spamming as unethical, who knows what else he has a problem understanding that it's wrong or unethical. He may not even associate the actual act of spamming as unethical, just using other folks' e-mails as the From or using garbage in messages to bypass filters. Unfortunately, he'll likely find himself working menial jobs for a long time.
I host my personal server with a Mosaic forum (Mosaic and Stained Glass.org) out of a CoLo in Florida. It's not the cheapest solution but I do get 100% access to the server to do what I want and a reasonable time on reboots when necessary.
Still, Microsoft will randomly block my mail for a month at a time with no recourse. I've attempted to contact them but they send me to a troubleshooting page which tells me I'm configured correctly but they still won't accept email. This wouldn't be too bad of a problem except that other ISPs use them to manage their e-mail. So I can't get any e-mail to Shaw.ca or AT&T in Canada. They don't even have a whitelist option for their users.
And there are a few smaller ISPs in the US that use anti spam blocking sites that don't have any way to let them know that I'm not spamming.
Most others though have contact information in their bounce and I've used it to check the various sites in the block list, then forward the results to the postmaster at the offended site. Then I get it opened up for the folks on the forum.
Heck, one ISP replied that I needed to get in touch with them and their Postmaster account won't accept further e-mail. I had to send them a note from my Yahoo account. Then they said it was a problem with my ISP and they should fix it. My ISP had no idea what they could do to fix it.
Even the company I work at, who uses MX-Logic can't receive e-mails from me because I'm not able to convince MX-Logic I'm not a spammer.
On the plus side, if I did want to spam Microsoft, they have a program where if I pay them, they'll open their servers up so I can send e-mail to their clients.
I'm not doing any real business on the server. I have my consulting website there but traffic is pretty much non-existent. The biggest impact is when the forum folk try to send the other folks e-mails (the PM notifications). I have a note in the Site Agreement to let folks know on shaw.ca, frontier, and the others that they might want to use a Yahoo e-mail to manage their forum account.
You're not looking at it correctly. They're pricing it based on the hard cover price, not the paperback price. If the hardcover book is $24.99, which they have out first for weeks or months, then a hardback sized paperback for $14.99 for another few weeks or months, _then_ the smaller paperback version for $7.99. They're looking at those prices and saying that $9.99 is between $8 and $15 on the cheaper side.
Since, according to several sources I've read, the cost of printing is minimal compared to the other costs involved (grain of salt and all of course).
I do have to say that I don't think I've seen any ebooks that are more expensive than the paperback copies. I have seen higher priced ebooks without the paperback copy available for it but a hardback edition is available.
And just to be clear, I'm not too pleased with the high cost either since I can't resell my ebooks.
Not that I'm infected or anything but I do have a growth on my scalp like a large pink mole. At one time it was quarter sized and fairly plump and even with warning the barbers it'd get caught by the comb. The past couple of years it's shrunk down to normal largish brown mole size but I still warn barbers that it's there and even so occasionally one will hit it with a comb drawing blood.
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Perhaps but if you're in single user mode and can't log in because the shared library isn't available, what do you do now?
At least that's where my pet peeve would come from. It doesn't happen often but when it does, it's a pain to get the system working.
[John]
bash uses shared libraries and sh doesn't. If you lose the /lib directory (or /usr/lib, or whatever), you lose the ability to log in if a system crashes to single user mode and the library file system didn't mount. Then it's boot to CD to recover which is great fun on a remote system (but not always impossible with virtual mounts, etc).
[John]
csh on Solaris? All scripts are generally in /bin/sh on my Solaris systems.
[John]
/usr/local/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
Shoot, perl is in /usr/bin and not in /usr/local/bin. So I'll have to ln -s /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/perl and hope it works.
[John]
I'm curious as to the reasons behind this. Is there some inherent problem with perl that it's banned or is it just a requirement to maintain consistency?
[John]
Why does anyone still use shell scripts anymore?
Because I'm a Unix Sysadmin?
Shell scripting is something I haven't felt the need to do in 5 years.
I'm guessing you're not a Unix Sysadmin any more?
If we were interviewing someone who said they hadn't written a shell script in 5 years, I'd have to spend some extra time querying the reasons and then think twice about hiring him. See, we use shell scripts. For init scripts, for simple tasks, for data gathering; loop through 300 systems getting the uptime for instance. Someone we hire would need to be able to perform maintenance on the scripts and hopefully not break an existing script or start using something like Python that the other sysadmins may not know and have to either learn in order to maintain your scripts or convert to regular shell scripts again.
See I've dealt with people who have their own little way of doing things. We had one sysadmin who felt Rexx was a great scripting language. Which was fine for him but when he left, we had to convert his scripts into a shell script in order to continue to maintain things.
So we have a rule that system scripts are done using a specific template, which is editable of course in case of need, which manages several aspects of system scripts including checking for multiple copies of the script and killing sessions if scp to a system hangs for some reason.
[John]
Then this past winter I got one when I found I was going to be "arm less" for six weeks due to shoulder surgery. I also wasn't sold on the device, but have quickly come around. In some ways it's actually more convenient to read than a paper book! And while my initial thought was "Buttons? I dunno, multi-touch is much better" - I now think the navigation buttons are a better way to go. You can easily turn pages on a Kindle using the same hand you're holding the "book", which is not true of an iPad - or even a paper book.
As a book hound as well, I have no problems turning pages on my iPad with one hand. A flick of the thumb and the page changes. And even in paperback as I hold a book in one hand and just relax the thumb a little to let a page go. Like both, it's not perfect as I don't give enough of a flick on the iPad for it to go or let too many pages go when relaxing my thumb.
[John]
Perhaps you should speak to your publishers to adjust book prices so they're not more expensive than paperback books. I have purchased some ebooks but only ones that I already have in hardback and love to read. Without a way to resell a book that doesn't appeal to me after purchase, I'm a lot less likely to purchase an ebook. I have purchased quite a few game PDFs because they're less than the paperback versions. Shadowrun core and supplements are $15 and $12 each on PDF.
[John]
Missed this bit, eh :)
The difference between them is that Elektro-L uses three bands in reflected light—red and two near infrared bands—while NASA's GOES doesn't have the near-infrared.
[John]
I pretty much get the same replies every time I mention it. "2002 is calling"."nVidia has bad drivers too." "I'm not having problems." "Troll." And of course folks who confirm they've had problems as well.
I have the current drivers for my cards. I've sent the card back and it's been returned as testing fine. I've been in computers for 31 years and built my share of systems so I'm no newb. The error is the atikmpag.sys video driver every time.
At the risk of being slashdotted:
http://www.schelin.org/jpgshow.php?DSCN2481.JPG
and
http://www.schelin.org/20081004/index.html
Even though the system has problems booting, once it's up it seldom has problems. The occasional screen reversing colors. I've suspected some heat related hardware issue (which was why I sent it back for testing) as it seems to be stable once up but even after running for a couple of hours, if I happen to reboot it, it can take a couple of blue screens before it finally comes up. And I have 50 Minidumps since Nov 17th and not every blue screen generates a minidump. At one point, it would simply cycle and power down.
[John]
Yea, I'm still getting blue screens on my AMDs. Yea, I'll get modded down by the AMD fanbois. Such is life.
[John]
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[John]
Or hell, just print it. Just like copied MP3 songs. They're not quite as good (relatively speaking) as the real thing.
[John]
Efficiency.
"Hey Bob, what's today?"
"It's the 14th of March"
vs
"It's March 14th"
There are two fewer words to say :)
[John]
I suspect this part explains it:
turning his loss lead into his biggest earner.
It's selling more copies than his other books.
[John]
Considering the limitations of Electronic Books; can't give them to friends or family to read, can't resell them, can't return them, can have them pulled without notice, the price is way too high.
I've purchased a few novels at the too high price since I got my iPad but so far only the ones I already have in paperback and really love to read. I have picked up a few 99 cent books at recommendation from others and generally they're an ok read.
I've spent a lot more on gaming PDFs, especially the non-watermarked DRM'd ones (Shadowrun from the Battlecorps website).
[John]
Ok, so this is a few years ago and anecdotal but there you go.
I got out of the Army in 82, spent a year doing odd jobs before landing a part time programming position in BASIC. In 1985 I went to Computer Learning Center to get better. Better training than the hobby and part time stuff I'd been doing and a chance at a better paying, full time job. The FORTRAN instructor was very good in teaching programming. The COBOL instructor was a screw-up who threw up on the grade book after a night of partying (the staff had to look at the grades from the reverse side) and lost several projects when they blew away in the parking lot (the affected folks had to redo their projects). In general I thought it was a pretty good set of training and even taught the COBOL Report Writer in class for extra credit.
Anyway, when I started looking for a full time position, I couldn't get past HR. This went on for several weeks until one HR woman said I should remove Computer Learning Center from my resume as they generally punted the resume once they see that.
I took it off and the next position I applied to offered me a programming position on an IBM System/23 and on the IBM PC AT programming Funeral Home and Point of Sales programs.
[John]
Depends. It could work either way. Either a queue of jokes (queue up the jokes) or cue the jokes. Taking it on face value, I suspect the OP meant "cue" but with English, dropping the "up" is common.
[John]
I would expect ethical behavior from any employee of mine. While spamming isn't illegal, it is pretty unethical. As an employer in the computer industry, I would likely not consider this person or any one who has worked at a spam related company. Ethical behavior is pretty high on most employers list of expected behavior, in part because it can adversely affect the company itself.
The problem with not being ethical is that he didn't think it was wrong. I'd hope that he learned that spamming wasn't ethical while in prison, but if he didn't or if it only identified spamming as unethical, who knows what else he has a problem understanding that it's wrong or unethical. He may not even associate the actual act of spamming as unethical, just using other folks' e-mails as the From or using garbage in messages to bypass filters. Unfortunately, he'll likely find himself working menial jobs for a long time.
[John]
They do suck but if you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you get the answers anyway.
[John]
Nothing like a programming language discussion to bring out the elitist snobs.
[John]
I host my personal server with a Mosaic forum (Mosaic and Stained Glass.org) out of a CoLo in Florida. It's not the cheapest solution but I do get 100% access to the server to do what I want and a reasonable time on reboots when necessary.
Still, Microsoft will randomly block my mail for a month at a time with no recourse. I've attempted to contact them but they send me to a troubleshooting page which tells me I'm configured correctly but they still won't accept email. This wouldn't be too bad of a problem except that other ISPs use them to manage their e-mail. So I can't get any e-mail to Shaw.ca or AT&T in Canada. They don't even have a whitelist option for their users.
And there are a few smaller ISPs in the US that use anti spam blocking sites that don't have any way to let them know that I'm not spamming.
Most others though have contact information in their bounce and I've used it to check the various sites in the block list, then forward the results to the postmaster at the offended site. Then I get it opened up for the folks on the forum.
Heck, one ISP replied that I needed to get in touch with them and their Postmaster account won't accept further e-mail. I had to send them a note from my Yahoo account. Then they said it was a problem with my ISP and they should fix it. My ISP had no idea what they could do to fix it.
Even the company I work at, who uses MX-Logic can't receive e-mails from me because I'm not able to convince MX-Logic I'm not a spammer.
On the plus side, if I did want to spam Microsoft, they have a program where if I pay them, they'll open their servers up so I can send e-mail to their clients.
I'm not doing any real business on the server. I have my consulting website there but traffic is pretty much non-existent. The biggest impact is when the forum folk try to send the other folks e-mails (the PM notifications). I have a note in the Site Agreement to let folks know on shaw.ca, frontier, and the others that they might want to use a Yahoo e-mail to manage their forum account.
[John]
You're not looking at it correctly. They're pricing it based on the hard cover price, not the paperback price. If the hardcover book is $24.99, which they have out first for weeks or months, then a hardback sized paperback for $14.99 for another few weeks or months, _then_ the smaller paperback version for $7.99. They're looking at those prices and saying that $9.99 is between $8 and $15 on the cheaper side.
Since, according to several sources I've read, the cost of printing is minimal compared to the other costs involved (grain of salt and all of course).
I do have to say that I don't think I've seen any ebooks that are more expensive than the paperback copies. I have seen higher priced ebooks without the paperback copy available for it but a hardback edition is available.
And just to be clear, I'm not too pleased with the high cost either since I can't resell my ebooks.
[John]
Not that I'm infected or anything but I do have a growth on my scalp like a large pink mole. At one time it was quarter sized and fairly plump and even with warning the barbers it'd get caught by the comb. The past couple of years it's shrunk down to normal largish brown mole size but I still warn barbers that it's there and even so occasionally one will hit it with a comb drawing blood.
[John]
Apple has a bunch of Flash games written by 3rd parties.
Wait. iDevices support Flash now? That's news to me, unless you're using the English definition of Flash of course.
[John]