To run a decent sized lcd at native resolution would be a start
A card two or three generations before that(tnt1 or tnt2) wouldn't have a problem running at a 1600x1200 His Gforce2 probably has 32 or 64 megs of ram, plenty for even a large LCD panel. I'd probably be interested in upgrading that CPU before the video card, but likely have to do both as newer boards are using pcix over agp.
How much are they going to save in licensing costs, does anyone know? (not just over Windows, but Office, Photoshop, etc.)
A HUGE amount. Microsoft's "educational" discounts are laugable. I don't know the exact numbers for Indiana, but I have experience in setting up a large linux network for a school and the money we saved on software allowed us to purchase much better hardware. All of our workstations are now equiped with flat panel monitors.
I remember MS claiming the TCO total cost of ownership is lower for Windows than for linux because of training...
MS's claims are just marketing garbage.
The school that I volunteer for has 2 ltsp servers and 60 thin clients. Since the thin clients have no hard drives, I never have to fix them. If there is a need for a new software package to be installed or account maintenance, I just remote into the server. Much easier solution for me personally than servicing 60 windows XP computers, regardless of how locked down they are.
As far as training goes.. well, the first year I just made the system look like windows : screenshot As the year went on, I noticed that neither students(k-8) nor teachers had any problems using the web browser or open office in linux. I can't imagine spending much money on training, becuase the system was more than intuitive enough. As far as training for any new network administrators goes, sure. However in this day and age it would be silly for a network administrator to not put some effort into learning linux.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never used Photoshop over a network) but wouldn't that run terribly slow from a terminal server since all the rendered graphics have to be sent over the network?
No slower than any other app. Photoshop is for doing 2D raster graphics. Even on very heavy rendering effects, the work is being done on the server, just the display is being exported. Something like Quake3, however would be a different story.
Letting someone else pay for the hosting costs would be a pretty big perk.
Barely. Compared to the money they spend on television advertising, web hosting is nothing.
Using a myspace.com/movie site is really stupid for another reason: Myspace.com tends to get filtered on networks where a movie site wouldn't be cosidered inappropriate.
That IP/MAC should belong to the WAN side of your WRT54GL with dd-wrt linux firware which is running in client mode and NAT using the ethernet ports. Put another another wireless AP off of one of those ports.
Why not? You don't have to apply a stylesheet and convert to xhtml on the client. You can simply read the DOM and create HTML from javascript. Or you could just send preformatted html. Or you could use JSON as has been mentioned.
Huh? I was asking a question based on previous experience, not slamming subeclipse.
SVN for eclipse doesent put any dependence on you using an eclipse project. In fact the plugin couldnt be more general purpose. I've used it for a year now.
Cool. That's the info I was looking for. I'll give it a shot and see if I like it better than smartsvn.
What I don't like is that IDE integration often means a project in the IDE = a project in source control. Worse, there might be a 1-to-1-to-1 with IDE project, source control project, and webapp.
If this plugin can act as a good svn client, without being to tightly coupled to eclipse projects, then I'd be glad to use it.
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Just do it the same way you do in every other language... execute a SQL statement.
Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
I know it's a pain in the ass to keep up with every database, but lots of persistence frameworks go throw the trouble of writing in a layer of abstraction to handle the differences in database servers like (NOW,CURRENT_TIME,SYSDATE). Considering that RoR has gotten so much press, I assumed something this simple was part of it.
I love this software, but the Linux client really is neglected. The documentation for Linux is not really there. There is no decent configuration tool for Linux. There are many bugs. For example, if you do any port forwarding, you must edit some nat.conf file. And if you reconfigure anything after that with vmware-config.pl, it completely wipes out all your changes to nat.conf without warning. I spent so much time dealing with these types of bugs while testing the beta, I should have simply purchased another solution.
I haven't noticed any significant difference in functionality on either vmware workstation on windows vs. linux or vmware server on windows vs. linux.
Also I haven't found much reason to set up a vmnet for NAT. What I typically do is set up a bridged vmnet for each physical NIC and then a couple of host only networks.
The key is to set up a vm like ipcop to do your NATing and routing between your physical networks and host only networks. Put three virtual NICs in the ipcop vm, one on a bridge for the red "WAN" interface, one on a host-only for the green "LAN" interface, and one host-only for the orange "DMZ" interface. You can easily set up all your routing rules using ipcop's web interface. If you add cop plus to ipcop you can even do web content filtering with dansguardian and squidguard. It has a pretty small footprint and is a nice addition to a home server.
BTW, there is one application of a NAT vmnet that I could see as kind of a cool thing: Using vmware player on an autorun cd to have a vm run in NATed mode without having to install the vmware player on the host
Maybe it's offtopic because 3D support is something they are working on for the workstation product. Today's announcment is for the release of the 1.0 version of the Server product.
The server product uses vnc or something like it to render the output to remote machines that use the vmware console.
I'm personally very happy about today's release. I've tested each beta release and have been quite impressed.
Hmmm...I guess people need to ask themselves if the are in love with this programming stuff or just doing it for a paycheck.
Absolutely. I've met plenty of both types of people. Its clear which people love to code and which people just consider it a job. When you love to code, you make time for reading programming books, having pet open source projects, getting into silly programming conversations on slashdot...
My advice is that if you don't love programming, find a different occupation.
They outsourced the Linux development to another company, and then that idiot company did stupid things like mix in proprietary SD card drivers right in. So now they're stuck between the proprietary people saying they can't release it, and the free software people saying they have to, and they're trying to figure out how to seperate the two and make us all happy.
You mean to tell me that they outsourced development under the premise that the developer is allowed to keep the intellectual property? I was kind of interested in picking one of these up, but that sounds really stupid. Do the GPX2 people have thier hands on all the code that they paid for?
That all depends on how the application is written, doesn't it?
Not really. The web app developer can only assume that AJAX HTTP requests are following the rules, and as such security on the server side is important which it should be regardless of issued the http request in the first place.
Shockingly, some even neglect to send XML entirely!
XML isn't really a requirment, you could use JSON, or even preformatted HTML if you'd like, but you'd lose the built in DOM parser that most javascript interpreters use these days. Also you might lose out on a potential bandwith savings if your xml schema is small with only relevant data is pulled down and formatted on the client side.
By "is operating" I assume you really mean "supposed to be operating". In any case it is the browser's fault if there is a security problem, so it's not like a developer should run away just because of the possibility of an exploit; if people thought like that, who would even use computers?
That's a little nitpicky isn't it? You build an application so that no what matter malformed request comes through it doesn't harm the server side. If you don't feel that the xmlhttprequest implementation is sloppy on your browser, that browser shouldn't be used. Ajax is helpful in many situations, just turning it off is burying your head in the sand.
and 3D acceleration in the guest (currently experimental, and requires DirectX in the guest for now). We have a lot in the works for the product, and the gap will widen.
Do you mean a linux host with nvidia/ATI drivers running a 3D accelerated windows guest?
Considerably more expensive than Cedega, but man that would be cool.
Additionally, it is not uncommon to see AJAX requests and responders bend or break the rules of HTTP also which can cause packet-inspecting firewalls some grief.
I can see XMLHttprequest breaking HTML data(as in using XML and parsed/rendered through javascript as opposed to preformatted HTML), but HTTP? How?
The same headers are sent as though you're doing an regular GET by typing a URL in the browser, therefore sessions,cookies,authentication/authorization, etc. remains the same. If your firewall is choking on it, its because its trying to parse an HTML document for bad or naughty text when that text could be in whatever xml schema the website author chooses. Packet inspection failing on xml should be considered a fault of the packet inspecting software. The XMLHttprequest is operating in a sandbox much like java applets. So far I've only managed to see people screaming FUD about security issues, because they are trying to sell an "enterprise" solution or services.
Sure, you can easily code up a little shopping site where you click 'show price' to load the price via AJAX, but it's no excuse for not making that same link do the right thing in browsers that do not have that capability.
I agree with that line 100%, but the use of AJAX as an enhancement to the shopping cart does not inherently bring up security issues.
>>Letting go of the grass roots Linux movement is where they screwed-up.
Huh? Are you whining because they had a desktop version that they sold on store shelves and let you download for free, and now they only let you download the free version, and you can't buy it in a retail outlet? The horror, they must be bad guys.
Fedora with its extra repositories is a much better desktop distro than the old red hat distro ever was.
In addition, because Red Hat sells and supports an Enterprise version, they are able to finance the development of many open source things like GCJ and kernel fixes.
If they changed the default theme to brown and sent out free CDs would it make you feel better about it?
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The analogy works just fine (which you seemed to have missed). The whip is not the horse: while a whip works well for telling a horse to move in the direction you want, a whip does not necessarily work well as a horse.
The bad part of the analogy is that it implies java can not be used for an embedded system, which it can. A whip can in no way be saddled or fed oats.
Java may or may not do a better job than what NASA is currently using, but at least there is room for speculation.
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I use VBScript to control my SQL Server: put records in it, retrieve records from it. What makes you think that it would then be a good idea to re-write SQL Server in VBScript and replace the SQL language with VBScript?
No offense, but that analogy is for shit.
First off, it would be stupid to write the database server engine in a scripting language. And as much as I personally can't stand vbscript, it might be appropriate to write stored procedures for MS SQL server in a vbscript syntax.
BTW, Oracle has long had the ability to run java stored procedures.
Replacing the structured Query language itself with an object oriented programming language is just silly and really has nothing to do with using embedded java to control a mars rover.
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To run a decent sized lcd at native resolution would be a start
A card two or three generations before that(tnt1 or tnt2) wouldn't have a problem running at a 1600x1200
His Gforce2 probably has 32 or 64 megs of ram, plenty for even a large LCD panel.
I'd probably be interested in upgrading that CPU before the video card, but likely have to do both as newer boards are using pcix over agp.
I'm not sure what the problem is, even the article you linked to mentions that Fedora's OO.o2 uses a 100% free(beer & speech) java stack.
How much are they going to save in licensing costs, does anyone know? (not just over Windows, but Office, Photoshop, etc.)
A HUGE amount. Microsoft's "educational" discounts are laugable. I don't know the exact numbers for Indiana, but I have experience in setting up a large linux network for a school and the money we saved on software allowed us to purchase much better hardware. All of our workstations are now equiped with flat panel monitors.
I remember MS claiming the TCO total cost of ownership is lower for Windows than for linux because of training...
MS's claims are just marketing garbage.
The school that I volunteer for has 2 ltsp servers and 60 thin clients. Since the thin clients have no hard drives, I never have to fix them. If there is a need for a new software package to be installed or account maintenance, I just remote into the server.
Much easier solution for me personally than servicing 60 windows XP computers, regardless of how locked down they are.
As far as training goes.. well, the first year I just made the system look like windows : screenshot
As the year went on, I noticed that neither students(k-8) nor teachers had any problems using the web browser or open office in linux. I can't imagine spending much money on training, becuase the system was more than intuitive enough.
As far as training for any new network administrators goes, sure. However in this day and age it would be silly for a network administrator to not put some effort into learning linux.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never used Photoshop over a network) but wouldn't that run terribly slow from a terminal server since all the rendered graphics have to be sent over the network?
No slower than any other app. Photoshop is for doing 2D raster graphics. Even on very heavy rendering effects, the work is being done on the server, just the display is being exported.
Something like Quake3, however would be a different story.
Letting someone else pay for the hosting costs would be a pretty big perk.
Barely.
Compared to the money they spend on television advertising, web hosting is nothing.
Using a myspace.com/movie site is really stupid for another reason:
Myspace.com tends to get filtered on networks where a movie site wouldn't be cosidered inappropriate.
"yum install wine"
That grabs the latest from the extras repository.
After that, it's not really fedora's fault or responsibility that the wine project doesn't run a particular game or application.
Or one really tall tank.
That IP/MAC should belong to the WAN side of your WRT54GL with dd-wrt linux firware which is running in client mode and NAT using the ethernet ports. Put another another wireless AP off of one of those ports.
you can't really do 'AJAX' without the XHTML
Why not?
You don't have to apply a stylesheet and convert to xhtml on the client. You can simply read the DOM and create HTML from javascript. Or you could just send preformatted html. Or you could use JSON as has been mentioned.
The original Diablo in all its 640x480 glory.
Maybe it was the soft string instruments in the background.
The intro movie was pretty good too.
You left out the part about the foil hat.
Huh?
I was asking a question based on previous experience, not slamming subeclipse.
SVN for eclipse doesent put any dependence on you using an eclipse project. In fact the plugin couldnt be more general purpose. I've used it for a year now.
Cool. That's the info I was looking for. I'll give it a shot and see if I like it better than smartsvn.
What I don't like is that IDE integration often means a project in the IDE = a project in source control. Worse, there might be a 1-to-1-to-1 with IDE project, source control project, and webapp.
If this plugin can act as a good svn client, without being to tightly coupled to eclipse projects, then I'd be glad to use it.
Just do it the same way you do in every other language... execute a SQL statement.
Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
I know it's a pain in the ass to keep up with every database, but lots of persistence frameworks go throw the trouble of writing in a layer of abstraction to handle the differences in database servers like (NOW,CURRENT_TIME,SYSDATE).
Considering that RoR has gotten so much press, I assumed something this simple was part of it.
I love this software, but the Linux client really is neglected. The documentation for Linux is not really there. There is no decent configuration tool for Linux. There are many bugs. For example, if you do any port forwarding, you must edit some nat.conf file. And if you reconfigure anything after that with vmware-config.pl, it completely wipes out all your changes to nat.conf without warning. I spent so much time dealing with these types of bugs while testing the beta, I should have simply purchased another solution.
I haven't noticed any significant difference in functionality on either vmware workstation on windows vs. linux or vmware server on windows vs. linux.
Also I haven't found much reason to set up a vmnet for NAT. What I typically do is set up a bridged vmnet for each physical NIC and then a couple of host only networks.
The key is to set up a vm like ipcop to do your NATing and routing between your physical networks and host only networks. Put three virtual NICs in the ipcop vm, one on a bridge for the red "WAN" interface, one on a host-only for the green "LAN" interface, and one host-only for the orange "DMZ" interface. You can easily set up all your routing rules using ipcop's web interface.
If you add cop plus to ipcop you can even do web content filtering with dansguardian and squidguard. It has a pretty small footprint and is a nice addition to a home server.
BTW, there is one application of a NAT vmnet that I could see as kind of a cool thing: Using vmware player on an autorun cd to have a vm run in NATed mode without having to install the vmware player on the host
Maybe it's offtopic because 3D support is something they are working on for the workstation product.
Today's announcment is for the release of the 1.0 version of the Server product.
The server product uses vnc or something like it to render the output to remote machines that use the vmware console.
I'm personally very happy about today's release. I've tested each beta release and have been quite impressed.
Not only does eclipse have a much, much larger feature set, JCreator costs 70 bucks
If they want something a little more lightweight with a similar feature set to jcreator, jedit is free and will run on a mac.
Hmmm...I guess people need to ask themselves if the are in love with this programming stuff or just doing it for a paycheck.
Absolutely.
I've met plenty of both types of people. Its clear which people love to code and which people just consider it a job. When you love to code, you make time for reading programming books, having pet open source projects, getting into silly programming conversations on slashdot...
My advice is that if you don't love programming, find a different occupation.
They outsourced the Linux development to another company, and then that idiot company did stupid things like mix in proprietary SD card drivers right in. So now they're stuck between the proprietary people saying they can't release it, and the free software people saying they have to, and they're trying to figure out how to seperate the two and make us all happy.
You mean to tell me that they outsourced development under the premise that the developer is allowed to keep the intellectual property?
I was kind of interested in picking one of these up, but that sounds really stupid.
Do the GPX2 people have thier hands on all the code that they paid for?
That all depends on how the application is written, doesn't it?
Not really. The web app developer can only assume that AJAX HTTP requests are following the rules, and as such security on the server side is important which it should be regardless of issued the http request in the first place.
Shockingly, some even neglect to send XML entirely!
XML isn't really a requirment, you could use JSON, or even preformatted HTML if you'd like, but you'd lose the built in DOM parser that most javascript interpreters use these days. Also you might lose out on a potential bandwith savings if your xml schema is small with only relevant data is pulled down and formatted on the client side.
By "is operating" I assume you really mean "supposed to be operating". In any case it is the browser's fault if there is a security problem, so it's not like a developer should run away just because of the possibility of an exploit; if people thought like that, who would even use computers?
That's a little nitpicky isn't it? You build an application so that no what matter malformed request comes through it doesn't harm the server side. If you don't feel that the xmlhttprequest implementation is sloppy on your browser, that browser shouldn't be used. Ajax is helpful in many situations, just turning it off is burying your head in the sand.
and 3D acceleration in the guest (currently experimental, and requires DirectX in the guest for now). We have a lot in the works for the product, and the gap will widen.
Do you mean a linux host with nvidia/ATI drivers running a 3D accelerated windows guest?
Considerably more expensive than Cedega, but man that would be cool.
Keep up the great work, ChipX86 !
Can you explain this:
Additionally, it is not uncommon to see AJAX requests and responders bend or break the rules of HTTP also which can cause packet-inspecting firewalls some grief.
I can see XMLHttprequest breaking HTML data(as in using XML and parsed/rendered through javascript as opposed to preformatted HTML), but HTTP? How?
The same headers are sent as though you're doing an regular GET by typing a URL in the browser, therefore sessions,cookies,authentication/authorization, etc. remains the same.
If your firewall is choking on it, its because its trying to parse an HTML document for bad or naughty text when that text could be in whatever xml schema the website author chooses. Packet inspection failing on xml should be considered a fault of the packet inspecting software.
The XMLHttprequest is operating in a sandbox much like java applets. So far I've only managed to see people screaming FUD about security issues, because they are trying to sell an "enterprise" solution or services.
Sure, you can easily code up a little shopping site where you click 'show price' to load the price via AJAX, but it's no excuse for not making that same link do the right thing in browsers that do not have that capability.
I agree with that line 100%, but the use of AJAX as an enhancement to the shopping cart does not inherently bring up security issues.
>>Only if they dropped their broke-ass RPM and got with something that actually handles dependencies sanely.
Huh?
Packages don't install if their dependent packages aren't installed. That's how things are supposed to work.
You can use yum on top of that to have it automatically pull down the dependencies. Not sure what the problem is. Can you give examples?
>>Letting go of the grass roots Linux movement is where they screwed-up.
Huh? Are you whining because they had a desktop version that they sold on store shelves and let you download for free, and now they only let you download the free version, and you can't buy it in a retail outlet?
The horror, they must be bad guys.
Fedora with its extra repositories is a much better desktop distro than the old red hat distro ever was.
In addition, because Red Hat sells and supports an Enterprise version, they are able to finance the development of many open source things like GCJ and kernel fixes.
If they changed the default theme to brown and sent out free CDs would it make you feel better about it?
The analogy works just fine (which you seemed to have missed). The whip is not the horse: while a whip works well for telling a horse to move in the direction you want, a whip does not necessarily work well as a horse.
The bad part of the analogy is that it implies java can not be used for an embedded system, which it can.
A whip can in no way be saddled or fed oats.
Java may or may not do a better job than what NASA is currently using, but at least there is room for speculation.
I use VBScript to control my SQL Server: put records in it, retrieve records from it. What makes you think that it would then be a good idea to re-write SQL Server in VBScript and replace the SQL language with VBScript?
No offense, but that analogy is for shit.
First off, it would be stupid to write the database server engine in a scripting language. And as much as I personally can't stand vbscript, it might be appropriate to write stored procedures for MS SQL server in a vbscript syntax.
BTW, Oracle has long had the ability to run java stored procedures.
Replacing the structured Query language itself with an object oriented programming language is just silly and really has nothing to do with using embedded java to control a mars rover.