"When you decide you're going to take revenge on anyone who pirates, all you are going to do is drive away people who might otherwise pay for the software."
What kind of head-up-your-ass thinking is this? No one who pirates is someone who "might otherwise pay" if you don't retaliate.
"Nobody says 'gee that guy wiped out my hard drive. I should pay for the software I stole from him.'"
No, but they might think "I won't steal from him again".
"Would you do it if you were in that position?"
The entire point would be that I would not be in his position.
Those who believe in gravitrons(gravity particles) believe that accelerating objects emit them in the same way accelerating charges emit photons (electromagnetic particles).
Of course you would. You want your toons free. If lots of people wanted to simply take whatever material property was laying around, it would still be wrong. Regardless if a mob of people (young geeks) want to download or rip games, music, etc., its still wrong. The author is not being compensated. You're still crippling the source of the talent.
Your example makes no sense other than crowing that hackers are more talented than big business.
"Fantasy is a sub-genere of Sci-fi. It was a reinvention of the dead heroic myth genere in the late 19th century after science fiction writers like Jules Verne (!) proved that the novel-reading audience would read blatantly not-true stories."
"Understand that terrorism is, first and foremost, a political act using theological and moral stances only to gain support among the unwashed masses."
Utter bullshit. Terrorism is, first and last, the use of violence to intimidate anyone into allowing the terrorist to get their way.
What you need to understand is that the terrorists do not care what you think, only that you serve them. They will kill you even if you appease (France). Read the papers for proof of this.
Sure. The moron environmentalist are those who can see no further than the very, very immediate circumstance.
In this case:
They assume they have the device.
They assume said device had no environmental impact.
They assume that because paper is made from plant fiber, it's bad.
They assume that the use of paper notes -- in toto -- will be worse than the use of technology -- in toto.
See? Simply. Just don't think past the moment
Note to the hippy disparagers. The author of the comment is apparently a techie. Environmental idiots come in all stripes.
"And I believe they'd be doing it whether there was an audience or not. "
On the money. Others should read up a bit on the history of this porn. Before the access explosion, ped's had sites with tons of this crap. No advertising, no limits. It was jollies, and those jollies will continue even with complete success at removing said content.
Those who remember CandyMan's spamming should also remember that he created site after site just for the perversion of it, not money. Every time they closed one -- Bam! -- an email with him crowing about how he'd set up another. He only stopped when he was physically busted.
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This whole post is just a lot of verbage to cover someone's opinion that it's ok to not pay someone for their labor because "I really didn't steal anything physical".
"If the public decides it can share copies..."
That's just it, bozo. The public decided that wanton copying of another's work without recompense is not what it wants. Get over it and buy the book, game, or whatever you're willing to rip off.
"If you can't put a fence around it or put chains on it, it does not belong to you. Like the air that we breathe, it belongs to nobody and everybody."
Horseshit. My writing belongs to me. I use a life-time of intellect and experience to produce it. Just who the hell are you to say it isn't mine? And by what logical argument. Just presuming so only makes you pompous.
The rest is nothing but a sophomoric rant, not worthy of real discussion.
Are we winning, as in "are we winning the war on crime"? Well, duh, no. It's an ongoing thing. Criminals will continue to exist, despite hard-leftist whining about giving everyone a break.
Are we winning, as in have we crippled al-Qaeda and reduced their impact? Yep.
For your meager information, asshat, terrorists were moving weapons around, killing children, blowing up innocent people, and trying to control areas for nefarious profit long befor 9/11.
Look around the world and realize it's not a fairy tale nice place.
You didn't say anything different than he, just a little more subdued.
"accept them and abide by them, or go in peace"
Perhaps you didn't think deeply enough to consider he might have been hypothetically speaking to someone at the border seeking entry. In that case, "abide by them" and "if you don't like them" are just instances of tact, not intent.
Or, did you mean, the individual could come in anyway and not abide by them? Hmmm?
Not really, no. The morals are rooted just as firmly in Greek, Roman and Germanic culture. Christianity itself is an assimilation of various cultural bits.
"...once you start making exceptions, where do you stop?"
Where it makes sense. You don't execute a shop-lifter.
"..."take revenge." That's exactly what the terrorists want..."
Wrongo, chum. The terrorists want exactly what happened in Spain, the redirection of a nation's decisions because of their threats. They certainly do not want to be snuffed out and the nation's resolve hardened against them.
"Suppose a completely uninvolved muslim..."
Shit happens in a war, but "suppose they find those that really put it there..." Anyone can construct a bad-resulting hypothetical, big deal.
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Yes, peace will ensue. Immediately after the first sword-wielder dies.
"When you decide you're going to take revenge on anyone who pirates, all you are going to do is drive away people who might otherwise pay for the software."
What kind of head-up-your-ass thinking is this? No one who pirates is someone who "might otherwise pay" if you don't retaliate.
"Nobody says 'gee that guy wiped out my hard drive. I should pay for the software I stole from him.'"
No, but they might think "I won't steal from him again".
"Would you do it if you were in that position?"
The entire point would be that I would not be in his position.
Those who believe in gravitrons(gravity particles) believe that accelerating objects emit them in the same way accelerating charges emit photons (electromagnetic particles).
"I think it is an expression of popular opinion."
Of course you would. You want your toons free. If lots of people wanted to simply take whatever material property was laying around, it would still be wrong. Regardless if a mob of people (young geeks) want to download or rip games, music, etc., its still wrong. The author is not being compensated. You're still crippling the source of the talent.
Your example makes no sense other than crowing that hackers are more talented than big business.
"...so please tell me how Java can easily, and naturally, without much string mucking,..."
Well, since source code is usually text, eliminating "string mucking" certainly makes it harder, don't you think?
Can you think of some other ways to ham-string your request?
"Given that fact: it is hard to dispute that the U.S. is the LEAST imperialistic country in the modern world"
"Hard to dispute because you put fingers in your ears and sing 'I can't hear you' I suppose?"
No, that would be because he provided good, sound reasoning for his opinion.
Unlike you.
"Before this invasion Saddam never threatened the US or any of it's neighbors. "
Perhaps you're just ignorant. Kuwait.
"Rome too wanted nothing more than to civilize the Gauls and bring them the Roman way of life."
Complete bullshit, and you know it. Rome took many thousands of slaves from Gual. Your equation belies you bias and ignorance.
"Fantasy is a sub-genere of Sci-fi. It was a reinvention of the dead heroic myth genere in the late 19th century after science fiction writers like Jules Verne (!) proved that the novel-reading audience would read blatantly not-true stories."
Oh, really? Then E.A.Poe (1809-1849) wasn't writing fantasy? Gulliver's Travels (1675) isn't fantasy?
Ummm, bullshit.
"Understand that terrorism is, first and foremost, a political act using theological and moral stances only to gain support among the unwashed masses."
Utter bullshit. Terrorism is, first and last, the use of violence to intimidate anyone into allowing the terrorist to get their way.
What you need to understand is that the terrorists do not care what you think, only that you serve them. They will kill you even if you appease (France). Read the papers for proof of this.
"Can anybody explain?"
Sure. The moron environmentalist are those who can see no further than the very, very immediate circumstance.
In this case:
They assume they have the device.
They assume said device had no environmental impact.
They assume that because paper is made from plant fiber, it's bad.
They assume that the use of paper notes -- in toto -- will be worse than the use of technology -- in toto.
See? Simply. Just don't think past the moment
Note to the hippy disparagers. The author of the comment is apparently a techie. Environmental idiots come in all stripes.
"And I believe they'd be doing it whether there was an audience or not. "
On the money. Others should read up a bit on the history of this porn. Before the access explosion, ped's had sites with tons of this crap. No advertising, no limits. It was jollies, and those jollies will continue even with complete success at removing said content.
Those who remember CandyMan's spamming should also remember that he created site after site just for the perversion of it, not money. Every time they closed one -- Bam! -- an email with him crowing about how he'd set up another. He only stopped when he was physically busted.
That's how.
"i so long for a time when one genius made all the laws, and they made sense"
Yeah, you would have loved Summeria.
What a butt-load.
Just because you haven't had an idea worth making into something significant, don't carp that this guy did.
Dying alone and silent in idealism is nothing to hawk to the masses. Or even individuals.
Then don't wind up with a warrant on you, simple.
This whole post is just a lot of verbage to cover someone's opinion that it's ok to not pay someone for their labor because "I really didn't steal anything physical".
"If the public decides it can share copies..."
That's just it, bozo. The public decided that wanton copying of another's work without recompense is not what it wants. Get over it and buy the book, game, or whatever you're willing to rip off.
"That goes against the original purposes of patent and copyright."
how it goes against. Be explicit.
"If you can't put a fence around it or put chains on it, it does not belong to you. Like the air that we breathe, it belongs to nobody and everybody."
Horseshit. My writing belongs to me. I use a life-time of intellect and experience to produce it. Just who the hell are you to say it isn't mine? And by what logical argument. Just presuming so only makes you pompous.
The rest is nothing but a sophomoric rant, not worthy of real discussion.
You go too far. It would mean that anyone could pay the patent owner a small fee (or large) to use their invention in their car model. Much the same.
Are we winning, as in "are we winning the war on crime"? Well, duh, no. It's an ongoing thing. Criminals will continue to exist, despite hard-leftist whining about giving everyone a break.
Are we winning, as in have we crippled al-Qaeda and reduced their impact? Yep.
For your meager information, asshat, terrorists were moving weapons around, killing children, blowing up innocent people, and trying to control areas for nefarious profit long befor 9/11.
Look around the world and realize it's not a fairy tale nice place.
You didn't say anything different than he, just a little more subdued.
"accept them and abide by them, or go in peace"
Perhaps you didn't think deeply enough to consider he might have been hypothetically speaking to someone at the border seeking entry. In that case, "abide by them" and "if you don't like them" are just instances of tact, not intent.
Or, did you mean, the individual could come in anyway and not abide by them? Hmmm?
Not really, no. The morals are rooted just as firmly in Greek, Roman and Germanic culture. Christianity itself is an assimilation of various cultural bits.
Uh, yeah. In context. Acetone is not safe in the wrong context. What's your point?
If it's me and a terrorist, I'd rather we were both blind than just me.
"...once you start making exceptions, where do you stop?"
Where it makes sense. You don't execute a shop-lifter.
"..."take revenge." That's exactly what the terrorists want..."
Wrongo, chum. The terrorists want exactly what happened in Spain, the redirection of a nation's decisions because of their threats. They certainly do not want to be snuffed out and the nation's resolve hardened against them.
"Suppose a completely uninvolved muslim..."
Shit happens in a war, but "suppose they find those that really put it there..." Anyone can construct a bad-resulting hypothetical, big deal.