So what? You said it yourself. It allows teachers to teach 'alternate views' of the Theory of Evolution. Such as that it's wrong, and they'd better read their Bibles. The protection from lawsuits is just a happy side-effect.
If you think that this will ever be used to teach anything other than creationism, then you are:
1) Hopelessly Naive. 2) Someone who has never been to Louisiana.
This law will ensure that no one from Louisiana will ever receive a real education.
Basically, they had high points of Science and Technology, but their rabid spiritualists tried to force every little thing to be expressed in terms of religion (Just like this bill is doing) until they became what they are today. They were once top in the world, and now they are firmly at the bottom.
It can happen to us too, and will happen unless we fight back.
Just about anyone in my town Baton Rouge), for one. They seem intelligent until anything like this comes up. They'd happily trade away their freedoms for some theater security, all in the name of "Patriotism".
Having worked in sales, I can comment on this. I was a salesman for years. I wasn't very good at it, because I was focused on solving the customer's problems. Those problems could frequently NOT be solved by using our services. The people who were very 'good' salesmen were great at figuring out their customer's problems, ingratiating themselves to the customers, and promising up and down that our stuff could solve their problems, regardless of the reality.
I've known a few legitimately good salesmen. My father is one. He sells industrial pumps and seals. When he was hired the first thing he requested was a month to work with the engineering and maintenance people. He was granted that, and studied the technical aspects intensely. He went on to become the best salesman in the company, and later split off to start his own company doing the same thing.
Is being a 'good' salesman hard? Yes, lying effectively can be a challenge. I have, however, no issue will a 'glass ceiling' for those who do not want to learn the technical aspects of their jobs.
Especially since much "computer forensics" is just people (including cops) trained to run a few perl scripts via a nice point-n-click gui. they wouldn't know how to do a sector-by-sector analysis of a drive if you held a gun to their kids' head.
I had a friend who worked in computer forensics. I can confidently say he needed to know a lot more than how to use a point-and-click gui. While I don't think he had access to a cleanroom or the training to pull apart a HDD and do a real sector-by-sector analysis of a dead HDD, as long as it was functioning he could recover pretty much anything that was recoverable.
By making a broad, stupid statement like that you've invalidated any actual merit you may have had.
The liberal mindset is that you are not allowed to choose, even if you actually are informed, since other uninformed people will frequently make "the wrong choice".
What a crock of propagandist crap.
The reason you have to have a medical license is that back when there was no such thing any snake oil vendor, phrenologist, or whatever other crackpot happened to be around was by default the local expert. When lots of people ended up dying, more sick, or just plain scammed, they demanded action. Because back then there was no way to confirm if you actually had any idea what the hell you were talking about. There was no internet, scientific knowledge was fairly uncommon, especially in rural areas, so they were easily suckered in by such charlatans. So a real medical association was formed which could give out reliable medical certifications, and it was made illegal to portray yourself as one if you were not. Because it would be tantamount to a breach of contract and malicious recklessness.
Like it or not, it makes sense. It was never some 'liberal' plot just to lock down society. We tried it without, and we've tried it with, and with works. If you don't like it go to Morocco, where anyone who can spell the word 'Dentist' can declare themselves to be one. They frequently work with rusty screwdrivers and pliers, with a bottle of tequilla.
And since you are interested in spreading misinformation, you can still seek alternative medical care all you like. Hell, my dad is an ultra-conservative guy and he primarily considers probiotics for that sort of thing. In fact I can think of a ton of alternative medical professionals out there, so you have lots of options. I'm not really sure what your beef is, unless you think that just about anyone should be permitted to perform surgeries or prescribe various medications.
Did you know that business meetings in France have to be in French ?
Yeah, and? Many Americans want it so that everything has to be in English, no Spanish allowed. I could see a large percentage from at least one party in the US in favor of a similar law here dictating what language all advertising and business meetings have to be in.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the basic gist I got was that the 'long tail' theory states there is a lot of money to be made in 'niche' or 'subculture' elements, and the critics say this is wrong. I can wholeheartedly disagree. It's not easy to extract the profit from niche markets, and the long tail probably doesn't add up to the 'head' so to speak, in most cases, but there is certainly a lot of money to be made.
Take TV for instance. Your 'Heads' there may be ABC, CBS, NBC, and you could call things like The Discovery Channel, The History Channel, Comedy Central, Sci-Fi Network, etc the 'tail', as I understand it. And there is quite the potential for the 'tails', in this instance, to make even more than the 'heads'.
Living as I do in what you might consider an extreme weather area, I might be able to answer this. I live in the deep south, southern Louisiana to be exact. It's about 70 miles northwest of New Orleans, which I am sure you've heard of. Our weather is basically the same. From about mid-April - October is Summer. Yes, I know, technically there's fall and spring and whatnot, but generally it goes from being cold to blazingly hot in a couple of weeks. The rest of the year is what I guess most places would consider 'fall'.
Ok, I'm going off track. The point is down here there is a TON of flora and fauna. Everything grows like wildfire. I've been to England, France and Germany, and I have to tell you, the very air felt like it was sucking the water out of me. We have humidity here, you see. Yes, you get fog, but it's not the same. While I was there I got several nosebleeds and had to have several bottles of water on me everywhere I went; the air was just so amazingly dry I became dehydrated in moments.
Off track again. What I am trying to get at is that the environment is perfect for growing things, raising things, hunting things. Basically all the food you could hope for, in abundance. In exchange the weather is hot compared to Europe. So your body adjusts to the weather because it's better than starving to death.
Whoever makes it into the WH will make a big show of giving an executive order to open the applications back up. As to whether this is a good thing or not, I'm not so sure. Solar has been making some big strides, but if everyone is forced to wait a couple of years, who knows what may come out, and what the current implementers will learn in that time? It may just save two years of shitty implementations with obsolete-before-it's-built tech.
Agreed. I think there should be very strict rules on any sorts of news coverage, including restrictions on campaign donations, and heavy, if not outright restrictions on parent companies 'owning' media networks. No good can come of one company owning a drug company and a news company who should 'investigate' it.
This explains why there's so much informative discussion here at slashdot. N o one knows much of anything, but if you throw enough wild assed guesses at something, one of them is bound to be right, right?
Surely the correct response would have been 'no, that was an artist's impression.'
The news anchor may be employed to use baby-talk, but there's no excuse for a supposedly informed correspondent to go along with the idiocy. The pride in ignorance is obviously annoying him, why doesn't he challenge it?
Because he would be labeled an 'elitist' if he did.
We all know that Scientists aren't Americans and don't speak English. They speak science and blaspheme against Gawd by saying that we dun came from apes. But without them our thinkin' machines don't work and then I can't mah titty movies fer free on that there internets so we keep 'em, but they shudn't be allowed to have opinions on important stuff like killin some ragheads.
The thing about life is it tends to spread. Chances are if we find nothing from taking a sampling from about 20 different areas and find nothing, there's a pretty good chance there is nothing.
Are you retarded? 'this forum gets awful silent when it's time to thank Republicans or blame Democrats'. Yeah, I guess having 1900+ posts on it, far beyond 5 times as many posts as normal as slashdot, is pretty fucking quiet in your eyes, eh?
Take your hate-filled glasses off, they're showing through.
D) The mugger is scared shitless and just wants the money. You whip out a gun, he gets scared and shoots you/your wife/your kid and where you may have just lost however much cash you had on you before and maybe your cell phone, now you've lost a life.
I'm sort of in the same boat. I'm very liberal, but I completely agree with this decision. I have no problems with everyone who is allowed to carrying guns. The only gun control I really agree with is prohibiting sale to minors/Mentally Ill/Criminals, and fully automatic weapons. Seriously, who needs an fully automatic weapon for home defense? The only purpose such guns have is killing a whole lotta people at once. If you make those legal you may as well make owning missiles legal, because they have pretty much the same use.
However, I digress. Ever notice how when the Supreme Court strikes down a law that Fox likes, it's all these 'activist judges flagrantly disregarding the will of the people' but when they strike down a law that they didn't like it's 'Finally getting it right'. What happened to the will of the people? I guess it doesn't count if the will of the people doesn't agree with them, eh?
Those were pretty much identical to the problems I had installing Linux on my home machine. I got tired of nothing working out of the box, and just finally got pissed off enough to install XP again. At least XP will install right from CD and after it comes up everything just fricking works.
It's like a never-ending spiral downward to see how absolutely slimy these people can be without actually getting forcibly ejected from the WH. Seriously, how badly do these bastards have to behave before they can be impeached? Bill got a hummer and has impeachment hearings brought against him, the Bush admins just flat out break law after law and absolutely nothing happens. What the hell?
Well, isn't the definition of conservative the 'safe and known'? Conservatives tend to be opposed to anything at all that's new, and will make mountains out of molehills at the slightest problems, generally speaking. More and more are understanding that we really have to get off of the oil teat, but it's slow going, as conservatives tend to also be deeply entrenched in big businesses (Especially oil companies). So basically it's principal, and because the environmentalists like it, so many conservatives will automatically hate it.
Of course, these are generalizations, and, as I said, many are starting to come around to the more practical benefits of alternative energy sources, other than just better environmental practices.
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So what? You said it yourself. It allows teachers to teach 'alternate views' of the Theory of Evolution. Such as that it's wrong, and they'd better read their Bibles. The protection from lawsuits is just a happy side-effect.
If you think that this will ever be used to teach anything other than creationism, then you are:
1) Hopelessly Naive.
2) Someone who has never been to Louisiana.
This law will ensure that no one from Louisiana will ever receive a real education.
No one has ever claimed that Dawkins DOES have all the answers.
Also, it's very common knowledge that Science doesn't currently have all the answers. That's more or less the point.
However, we ARE afraid that Science 'will lose the fight', and with good reason; It's happened before, with all the Islamic countries.
http://www.chowk.com/articles/9555
Basically, they had high points of Science and Technology, but their rabid spiritualists tried to force every little thing to be expressed in terms of religion (Just like this bill is doing) until they became what they are today. They were once top in the world, and now they are firmly at the bottom.
It can happen to us too, and will happen unless we fight back.
So that extends to here, yes? You're not actually responding to posts. You're just hallucinating wildly and thinking you are.
Just about anyone in my town Baton Rouge), for one. They seem intelligent until anything like this comes up. They'd happily trade away their freedoms for some theater security, all in the name of "Patriotism".
Ah, the great games of old...
I never played that many, I did play a few though.
Might and Magic I, M&M III, M&M IV (By time we got a PC that could handle 2, 3 was out...)
PoolRad was a great game. I got it just as I was learning about D&D. I remember so many great things about that game.
I was going to protest a few omissions till I remembered the starting criteria. The Space Quest games, Civilization I etc.
Having worked in sales, I can comment on this. I was a salesman for years. I wasn't very good at it, because I was focused on solving the customer's problems. Those problems could frequently NOT be solved by using our services. The people who were very 'good' salesmen were great at figuring out their customer's problems, ingratiating themselves to the customers, and promising up and down that our stuff could solve their problems, regardless of the reality.
I've known a few legitimately good salesmen. My father is one. He sells industrial pumps and seals. When he was hired the first thing he requested was a month to work with the engineering and maintenance people. He was granted that, and studied the technical aspects intensely. He went on to become the best salesman in the company, and later split off to start his own company doing the same thing.
Is being a 'good' salesman hard? Yes, lying effectively can be a challenge. I have, however, no issue will a 'glass ceiling' for those who do not want to learn the technical aspects of their jobs.
Especially since much "computer forensics" is just people (including cops) trained to run a few perl scripts via a nice point-n-click gui. they wouldn't know how to do a sector-by-sector analysis of a drive if you held a gun to their kids' head.
I had a friend who worked in computer forensics. I can confidently say he needed to know a lot more than how to use a point-and-click gui. While I don't think he had access to a cleanroom or the training to pull apart a HDD and do a real sector-by-sector analysis of a dead HDD, as long as it was functioning he could recover pretty much anything that was recoverable.
By making a broad, stupid statement like that you've invalidated any actual merit you may have had.
The liberal mindset is that you are not allowed to choose, even if you actually are informed, since other uninformed people will frequently make "the wrong choice".
What a crock of propagandist crap.
The reason you have to have a medical license is that back when there was no such thing any snake oil vendor, phrenologist, or whatever other crackpot happened to be around was by default the local expert. When lots of people ended up dying, more sick, or just plain scammed, they demanded action. Because back then there was no way to confirm if you actually had any idea what the hell you were talking about. There was no internet, scientific knowledge was fairly uncommon, especially in rural areas, so they were easily suckered in by such charlatans. So a real medical association was formed which could give out reliable medical certifications, and it was made illegal to portray yourself as one if you were not. Because it would be tantamount to a breach of contract and malicious recklessness.
Like it or not, it makes sense. It was never some 'liberal' plot just to lock down society. We tried it without, and we've tried it with, and with works. If you don't like it go to Morocco, where anyone who can spell the word 'Dentist' can declare themselves to be one. They frequently work with rusty screwdrivers and pliers, with a bottle of tequilla.
And since you are interested in spreading misinformation, you can still seek alternative medical care all you like. Hell, my dad is an ultra-conservative guy and he primarily considers probiotics for that sort of thing. In fact I can think of a ton of alternative medical professionals out there, so you have lots of options. I'm not really sure what your beef is, unless you think that just about anyone should be permitted to perform surgeries or prescribe various medications.
Did you know that business meetings in France have to be in French ?
Yeah, and? Many Americans want it so that everything has to be in English, no Spanish allowed. I could see a large percentage from at least one party in the US in favor of a similar law here dictating what language all advertising and business meetings have to be in.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the basic gist I got was that the 'long tail' theory states there is a lot of money to be made in 'niche' or 'subculture' elements, and the critics say this is wrong. I can wholeheartedly disagree. It's not easy to extract the profit from niche markets, and the long tail probably doesn't add up to the 'head' so to speak, in most cases, but there is certainly a lot of money to be made.
Take TV for instance. Your 'Heads' there may be ABC, CBS, NBC, and you could call things like The Discovery Channel, The History Channel, Comedy Central, Sci-Fi Network, etc the 'tail', as I understand it. And there is quite the potential for the 'tails', in this instance, to make even more than the 'heads'.
This is just as far as I understand it, mind you.
Living as I do in what you might consider an extreme weather area, I might be able to answer this. I live in the deep south, southern Louisiana to be exact. It's about 70 miles northwest of New Orleans, which I am sure you've heard of. Our weather is basically the same. From about mid-April - October is Summer. Yes, I know, technically there's fall and spring and whatnot, but generally it goes from being cold to blazingly hot in a couple of weeks. The rest of the year is what I guess most places would consider 'fall'.
Ok, I'm going off track. The point is down here there is a TON of flora and fauna. Everything grows like wildfire. I've been to England, France and Germany, and I have to tell you, the very air felt like it was sucking the water out of me. We have humidity here, you see. Yes, you get fog, but it's not the same. While I was there I got several nosebleeds and had to have several bottles of water on me everywhere I went; the air was just so amazingly dry I became dehydrated in moments.
Off track again. What I am trying to get at is that the environment is perfect for growing things, raising things, hunting things. Basically all the food you could hope for, in abundance. In exchange the weather is hot compared to Europe. So your body adjusts to the weather because it's better than starving to death.
Whoever makes it into the WH will make a big show of giving an executive order to open the applications back up. As to whether this is a good thing or not, I'm not so sure. Solar has been making some big strides, but if everyone is forced to wait a couple of years, who knows what may come out, and what the current implementers will learn in that time? It may just save two years of shitty implementations with obsolete-before-it's-built tech.
Agreed. I think there should be very strict rules on any sorts of news coverage, including restrictions on campaign donations, and heavy, if not outright restrictions on parent companies 'owning' media networks. No good can come of one company owning a drug company and a news company who should 'investigate' it.
Actually I was kidding, really. It just wasn't that funny.
This explains why there's so much informative discussion here at slashdot. N o one knows much of anything, but if you throw enough wild assed guesses at something, one of them is bound to be right, right?
Surely the correct response would have been 'no, that was an artist's impression.'
The news anchor may be employed to use baby-talk, but there's no excuse for a supposedly informed correspondent to go along with the idiocy. The pride in ignorance is obviously annoying him, why doesn't he challenge it?
Because he would be labeled an 'elitist' if he did.
We all know that Scientists aren't Americans and don't speak English. They speak science and blaspheme against Gawd by saying that we dun came from apes. But without them our thinkin' machines don't work and then I can't mah titty movies fer free on that there internets so we keep 'em, but they shudn't be allowed to have opinions on important stuff like killin some ragheads.
The thing about life is it tends to spread. Chances are if we find nothing from taking a sampling from about 20 different areas and find nothing, there's a pretty good chance there is nothing.
Are you retarded? 'this forum gets awful silent when it's time to thank Republicans or blame Democrats'. Yeah, I guess having 1900+ posts on it, far beyond 5 times as many posts as normal as slashdot, is pretty fucking quiet in your eyes, eh?
Take your hate-filled glasses off, they're showing through.
Because you forgot
D) The mugger is scared shitless and just wants the money. You whip out a gun, he gets scared and shoots you/your wife/your kid and where you may have just lost however much cash you had on you before and maybe your cell phone, now you've lost a life.
I'm sort of in the same boat. I'm very liberal, but I completely agree with this decision. I have no problems with everyone who is allowed to carrying guns. The only gun control I really agree with is prohibiting sale to minors/Mentally Ill/Criminals, and fully automatic weapons. Seriously, who needs an fully automatic weapon for home defense? The only purpose such guns have is killing a whole lotta people at once. If you make those legal you may as well make owning missiles legal, because they have pretty much the same use.
However, I digress. Ever notice how when the Supreme Court strikes down a law that Fox likes, it's all these 'activist judges flagrantly disregarding the will of the people' but when they strike down a law that they didn't like it's 'Finally getting it right'. What happened to the will of the people? I guess it doesn't count if the will of the people doesn't agree with them, eh?
Those were pretty much identical to the problems I had installing Linux on my home machine. I got tired of nothing working out of the box, and just finally got pissed off enough to install XP again. At least XP will install right from CD and after it comes up everything just fricking works.
It's like a never-ending spiral downward to see how absolutely slimy these people can be without actually getting forcibly ejected from the WH. Seriously, how badly do these bastards have to behave before they can be impeached? Bill got a hummer and has impeachment hearings brought against him, the Bush admins just flat out break law after law and absolutely nothing happens. What the hell?
$107/month is ridiculously low. Here in southern Louisiana it's at least around $200/mo for a mid-sized apartment.
Well, isn't the definition of conservative the 'safe and known'? Conservatives tend to be opposed to anything at all that's new, and will make mountains out of molehills at the slightest problems, generally speaking. More and more are understanding that we really have to get off of the oil teat, but it's slow going, as conservatives tend to also be deeply entrenched in big businesses (Especially oil companies). So basically it's principal, and because the environmentalists like it, so many conservatives will automatically hate it.
Of course, these are generalizations, and, as I said, many are starting to come around to the more practical benefits of alternative energy sources, other than just better environmental practices.