That's funny but in the future please get the phone/recorder adaptor from rat shack, hook this up to your phone and a recorder or staight into your computer and then put an MP3 of the recorded deed on your.....BLOG.
Ahhahahahahaha.
The idea is to ge them to scream at you and make threats without doing any screaming yourself.
I need to sit down and do this up again for telemarketers and other market trash. SO:
You get a point for each minute you tie them up whether on hold or not, you CANNOT BE PAYING FOR THE CALL. You probably should not do this to a company you want to keep around.
Within what they say: 100 points for any FCC forbidden word. 200 points for any racist word. 5 points for derogatory words not included above.
If you raise your voice or scream or curse then you lose points, this can be fixed point loss or can be decided by the group you will form (see below).
Once you've fumbled around to the point the fish is going to escape you 'start to buy' the 'product' read off the numbers they want, they are fantasy numbers of course. Just tell them you'll grab some other card and try again and again and again. Time is on your side.
1000 points for Death threats 10000 points if you get a call back number that is valid.
Any other interesting occurance will be judged by committee.
Hints: If you can do an elderly confused voice it helps, immitations of Mr Drucker, Jed Clampett or any character they are not likely to know garners a 10 percent bonus. An older person brings out the predator in these people and makes it much easier to screw with them.
It's no fun to do this alone, you need a group to pool a fee then everyone gets together and plays back their conversation and votes on who gets what. It works well if booze and music is involved. Even without money involved this can be way too much fun at get togethers.
There are just so many problems with laser communication from orbit.
Another little known bit about satellites is that they will completely shutdown when a high power signal is detected. I don't know for how long but that would cloak the perpetrator.
I've donated to a local animal shelter for unadoptable furries, both money and a rather moldy PC.
They have absolutely no extra money, a lot of this couples income goes into the shelter and every contribution helps a great deal.
Your niche software really is helping shelters out, otherwise they either run on pieced together software or try and get something commercial that's specific at way too much money.
So be of good cheer the money that was not spent on the software goes to a good cause.
It would do some good to set up a site that evaluated different GNU software packages and then allowed subscribers to vote on which could get money and put a link for people to donate to the recommendation but also have the ability to search for others. I wonder if slashcode could do that?
I had some trouble finding the donation link, I was looking for an icon not text.
His writing in Alternate View in Analog is tops as are his novels, "Twistor" and "Einsteins Bridge".
In one a device that would need no fuel can propel a ship to near light speed using axion conversion. It's flawed in that it's efficiency goes down as light speed is approached but hey, it's free.
Don't know if some other discovery shot it down but there are a few more.
"It is certainly true that the class action joinder rule can take a relatively frivolous individual claim that an attorney would not pursue and transform it into a lucrative and dangerous claim with a potential for high recovery"
The difference between 1,000 small claims and a class action?
Potloads of money, a class action protects the one sued.
Sure in some cases lots of money is won but usually the sued party gets off much lighter and the people in the 'class' get screwed.
Personally I want a spammer to suffer the 1,000 claims, the paperwork and legal nightmare of it all rather than some tidy little 'class action'.
Which would cost the spammer more, 1,000 seperate small claims with or without an attorney or 1 case with 1 distributable claim with an attorney?
This happenened in California with the warranty centers for some consumer products. The manufacturers were pushing for a class action to settle some dispute over warranty claim amounts.
Instead they had to do 400 (times every consumer manufacturer) seperate actions negotiating with each individual servicer. The servicers came out far ahead on this.
It's one of those stupid things that happens, if you're not so lucky, once in a lifetime.
At one time I repaired televisions, VCRs and such, brrrr. Thankfully I no longer have to do this.
The shop had a good working relationship with a local commercial electronics dealer, we did all their warranty and after warranty repairs.
A couple of years earlier they'd gotten a contract to provide televisions of a certain size and specification to a local prison.
These TVs needed earphone jacks, so they gotten someone to install them "cheap".
Time passed and we started getting these for repair with such delightful comments as "I got shocked and then smoke came out, now it's not working."
The TV, a small B&W set, was directly connected to the AC line with no isolation internally, this of course means that the jack is now at 120VAC potential and the small screw on keeper nut sticking outside the set is just ripe for someone poor, downtrodden rapist to get shocked.
I personally was torn between keeping my mouth shut and announcing the problem and the solution. Money won, we got about 120 per set, for a 50 dollar new TV, mainly to fix them quickly and keep quiet about it. I chose the money because there was little chance of a fatal electrocution, dammit.
This happens every now and then in the bidness, someone will invariably try to do this.
PGP works and works well. It will allow the sender to be positively identified. Force such attachments to be at least signed so that an infected PC can be identified.
Fidonet had modules to allow zip files to be virus scanned, your mail gateway should too or you should dump it.
"of what it is they're programming, in the sense that do they know they are making a sensitive program for the NSA of the United States? If not then what could be the harm unless a backdoor gets thru unchecked? (I can only hope that some US officials or hired techies DO check this code for backdoors and the like.)"
Probably not very well depending on the amount of source code, to thoroughly scour the source code takes the same resources if not more as it does to make the code. I assume the requestor gets the source code, that it has not been obfuscated, that it is commented in some way, etc.
The database of names does piss me off because it was a marketing list, also that it exposes these employees to privacy invasion and perhaps some bit of danger.
Why are they using this particular company? Could features be added to Linux clustering tools to allow it to be used instead?
"Which reminds me: is hacking for profit considere an extraditable offence??"
If you commit a crime you can be extradited, I don't think there is any exclusion.
Hacking in general that crosses state lines is a Federal offense. I think if you break a state law across state lines there is a generic Federal law. I should look but I think there are specific Federal laws in place. State laws vary widely.
Since the supreme Court ruled that it is not double jeopardy to be convicted by Federal and state law you can serve time for both the Federal offense and the state offense. These are consecutive terms.
I'm pretty sure that any act that garners illegal monies is a crime at both the Federal and state level.
The amoral humans mentioned in the article are committing a felony to do so.
"But good god, man -- it's an email. Throwing someone into a place reserved for killers and rapists and then summarily depriving them of all modern forms of communication might make you feel better about your overly self-important sense of time, but that does not justify the evil of the deed."
It's not enough but it's a start.
"Repeat after me: your life, just like mine and most everyone else's, is inherently meaningless."
Just because you are willing to eat spam is no reason to consider your life meaningless.
We ARE going to have a police state with ubiquitous law enforcement so lets give the state some enemies to lock up, people who commit crimes doing things that annoy the hell out of us and fill up the jails so we can get out due to overcrowding.;-)
Try getting them to fix a card under warranty when you are in the US.
I got a really old one fixed once. ATI claimed "Canadian customs" had it for a couple of months. I got it back finally three months after shipping it.
The second time I sent it in under warrany I couldn't get them to acknowledge that they received it, I just got the "Canadian customs" line even though made damn sure I followed all their packaging proceedures. This went on long enough that I bought another card.
Then ATI had the gall to say that when they got the card it was out of warranty. When I shipped it there was only two months left and I had an RA number. After a lot of screaming and a few letters, I didn't get the card fixed but got a 'new' card with less features.
I buy Matrox, period, I don't need a game machine and don't need the headache of binary only drivers and closed hardware.
That's Quintillion I say.
l lion
Million
Billion
Trillion
Quadrillion
Quniti
Septillion
Sextillion (boys and girls like this one)
Octillion
Nonillion
Go there and read all of the thread. He just went in there cause a stink with no damned good reason for it.
Is everybody and his brother bugging, um, friends to set up P2P networks with IPSEC and SSH and other things?
I know Fincen is in operation with little control. There were some other databases lurking in legislation but I've not followed them recently.
Look for these to get glued together at some point.
Would any of these run Linux, would it matter? I've seen these and would like to get one of the multi-proc ones.
What is a Cobalt?
Getting people to transfer needs this till they can be weened from a fixed interface to one they can make work for them.
That's funny but in the future please get the phone/recorder adaptor from rat shack, hook this up to your phone and a recorder or staight into your computer and then put an MP3 of the recorded deed on your.....BLOG.
Ahhahahahahaha.
The idea is to ge them to scream at you and make threats without doing any screaming yourself.
I need to sit down and do this up again for telemarketers and other market trash. SO:
You get a point for each minute you tie them up whether on hold or not, you CANNOT BE PAYING FOR THE CALL. You probably should not do this to a company you want to keep around.
Within what they say:
100 points for any FCC forbidden word.
200 points for any racist word.
5 points for derogatory words not included above.
If you raise your voice or scream or curse then you lose points, this can be fixed point loss or can be decided by the group you will form (see below).
Once you've fumbled around to the point the fish is going to escape you 'start to buy' the 'product' read off the numbers they want, they are fantasy numbers of course. Just tell them you'll grab some other card and try again and again and again. Time is on your side.
1000 points for Death threats
10000 points if you get a call back number that is valid.
Any other interesting occurance will be judged by committee.
Hints: If you can do an elderly confused voice it helps, immitations of Mr Drucker, Jed Clampett or any character they are not likely to know garners a 10 percent bonus. An older person brings out the predator in these people and makes it much easier to screw with them.
It's no fun to do this alone, you need a group to pool a fee then everyone gets together and plays back their conversation and votes on who gets what. It works well if booze and music is involved. Even without money involved this can be way too much fun at get togethers.
Can't most of a c64 be crammed into a FPGA or some other programmable chip? I wonder if one of the emulators can be hacked to compile for one.
Mostly I just use an emulator for nostalgia.
From the fortune program, ask and ye shall be enlightened, sort of.
touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep
There are just so many problems with laser communication from orbit.
Another little known bit about satellites is that they will completely shutdown when a high power signal is detected. I don't know for how long but that would cloak the perpetrator.
I've donated to a local animal shelter for unadoptable furries, both money and a rather moldy PC.
They have absolutely no extra money, a lot of this couples income goes into the shelter and every contribution helps a great deal.
Your niche software really is helping shelters out, otherwise they either run on pieced together software or try and get something commercial that's specific at way too much money.
So be of good cheer the money that was not spent on the software goes to a good cause.
It would do some good to set up a site that evaluated different GNU software packages and then allowed subscribers to vote on which could get money and put a link for people to donate to the recommendation but also have the ability to search for others. I wonder if slashcode could do that?
I had some trouble finding the donation link, I was looking for an icon not text.
His writing in Alternate View in Analog is tops as are his novels, "Twistor" and "Einsteins Bridge".
In one a device that would need no fuel can propel a ship to near light speed using axion conversion. It's flawed in that it's efficiency goes down as light speed is approached but hey, it's free.
Don't know if some other discovery shot it down but there are a few more.
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/av_index.html
No one contributes to it cause their ain't a button to click and pay. ;-)
And I'm barely able to tell what this can do for me but I'm interested.
Just put a paypal or amazon or some other payment link on your page OR your special address to get mail from the internet jungle.
For groups you'll have to figure out how to divide the money, just give me a place to send the dough.
I donate all the time, it's small sure but I do.
In the past few months I've donated about 110 dollars. I donate to ANYTHING that gives me value and that has a way for me to do so.
I like doing it.
"It is certainly true that the class action joinder rule can take a relatively frivolous individual claim that an attorney would not pursue and transform it into a lucrative and dangerous claim with a potential for high recovery"
The difference between 1,000 small claims and a class action?
Potloads of money, a class action protects the one sued.
Sure in some cases lots of money is won but usually the sued party gets off much lighter and the people in the 'class' get screwed.
Personally I want a spammer to suffer the 1,000 claims, the paperwork and legal nightmare of it all rather than some tidy little 'class action'.
Which would cost the spammer more, 1,000 seperate small claims with or without an attorney or 1 case with 1 distributable claim with an attorney?
This happenened in California with the warranty centers for some consumer products. The manufacturers were pushing for a class action to settle some dispute over warranty claim amounts.
Instead they had to do 400 (times every consumer manufacturer) seperate actions negotiating with each individual servicer. The servicers came out far ahead on this.
It's one of those stupid things that happens, if you're not so lucky, once in a lifetime.
At one time I repaired televisions, VCRs and such, brrrr. Thankfully I no longer have to do this.
The shop had a good working relationship with a local commercial electronics dealer, we did all their warranty and after warranty repairs.
A couple of years earlier they'd gotten a contract to provide televisions of a certain size and specification to a local prison.
These TVs needed earphone jacks, so they gotten someone to install them "cheap".
Time passed and we started getting these for repair with such delightful comments as "I got shocked and then smoke came out, now it's not working."
The TV, a small B&W set, was directly connected to the AC line with no isolation internally, this of course means that the jack is now at 120VAC potential and the small screw on keeper nut sticking outside the set is just ripe for someone poor, downtrodden rapist to get shocked.
I personally was torn between keeping my mouth shut and announcing the problem and the solution. Money won, we got about 120 per set, for a 50 dollar new TV, mainly to fix them quickly and keep quiet about it. I chose the money because there was little chance of a fatal electrocution, dammit.
This happens every now and then in the bidness, someone will invariably try to do this.
They are mounted in the front of the unit, mostly commercial and I don't know of any company that really used them.
Actually there is an injectable pet identification system. It even has it's own cute little name, Microchipping.
http://www.chippet.com/moreinfo.htm
Comming soon to a child near you.
I wonder if you figured out how much RF to pump into one of these things (or RFID) to cause something painful and/or spectacular.
PGP works and works well. It will allow the sender to be positively identified. Force such attachments to be at least signed so that an infected PC can be identified.
Fidonet had modules to allow zip files to be virus scanned, your mail gateway should too or you should dump it.
"of what it is they're programming, in the sense that do they know they are making a sensitive program for the NSA of the United States? If not then what could be the harm unless a backdoor gets thru unchecked? (I can only hope that some US officials or hired techies DO check this code for backdoors and the like.)"
Probably not very well depending on the amount of source code, to thoroughly scour the source code takes the same resources if not more as it does to make the code. I assume the requestor gets the source code, that it has not been obfuscated, that it is commented in some way, etc.
The database of names does piss me off because it was a marketing list, also that it exposes these employees to privacy invasion and perhaps some bit of danger.
Why are they using this particular company? Could features be added to Linux clustering tools to allow it to be used instead?
Something like this has already been discussed on cypherpunks. It had to do with 'blacknet'.
m l
u nks/
c rypto/c ypherpunks/blacknet-key-broken.txt
Ah, this is a partial archive of this.
http://koeln.ccc.de/archiv/drt/blacknet.ht
This is good to, just good reading:
http://nerxs.com/Society/Groups/Cypherp
Blacknet key broken, some other good info:
http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6805/articles/
"Which reminds me: is hacking for profit considere an extraditable offence??"
If you commit a crime you can be extradited, I don't think there is any exclusion.
Hacking in general that crosses state lines is a Federal offense. I think if you break a state law across state lines there is a generic Federal law. I should look but I think there are specific Federal laws in place. State laws vary widely.
Since the supreme Court ruled that it is not double jeopardy to be convicted by Federal and state law you can serve time for both the Federal offense and the state offense. These are consecutive terms.
I'm pretty sure that any act that garners illegal monies is a crime at both the Federal and state level.
"What the fuck is your major malfunction?"
;-)
Not enough dead spammers in the world.
"So somebody sends out annoying emails."
The amoral humans mentioned in the article are committing a felony to do so.
"But good god, man -- it's an email. Throwing someone into a place reserved for killers and rapists and then summarily depriving them of all modern forms of communication might make you feel better about your overly self-important sense of time, but that does not justify the evil of the deed."
It's not enough but it's a start.
"Repeat after me: your life, just like mine and most everyone else's, is inherently meaningless."
Just because you are willing to eat spam is no reason to consider your life meaningless.
We ARE going to have a police state with ubiquitous law enforcement so lets give the state some enemies to lock up, people who commit crimes doing things that annoy the hell out of us and fill up the jails so we can get out due to overcrowding.
Be the parties who go to jail. I mean hard jail time for any person who causes this sort of nonsense to happen.
I want them in jail with a specific exclusion from any form of communication other than snail mail.
Try getting them to fix a card under warranty when you are in the US.
I got a really old one fixed once. ATI claimed "Canadian customs" had it for a couple of months. I got it back finally three months after shipping it.
The second time I sent it in under warrany I couldn't get them to acknowledge that they received it, I just got the "Canadian customs" line even though made damn sure I followed all their packaging proceedures. This went on long enough that I bought another card.
Then ATI had the gall to say that when they got the card it was out of warranty. When I shipped it
there was only two months left and I had an RA number. After a lot of screaming and a few letters, I didn't get the card fixed but got a 'new' card with less features.
I buy Matrox, period, I don't need a game machine and don't need the headache of binary only drivers and closed hardware.