"On what grounds does SCO base this license on? They have proven nothing legally."
It is surely not a legal contract, so what are we buying from SCO? Nothin but thin (hot) air, and the US government is allowing this kind of business to take place. Even though the SCO lawyers are completely out of their minds, they are playing the US govt for fools and doing a damn good job of it. In the end, it is the governments fault for allowing this to continue unchecked. Microsoft is another great example of a government who is turning a blind eye to corporations of America walking all over the consumers. To eliminate lunacy such as this, our government NEEDS to intervene. Period. Where the hell is our tax money going anyway? Iraq? WTF
Quit using MS Outlook. It's address book is a well written virus cannon capable of well-aimed bursts or scatter shot that can cover the globe in days. Outlook Express is no different. It may be a crippled version of Outlook but we all know it's cannon functions exactly the same way.;-)
Maybe I spoke too soon... looks like this is not an MS product, but even still, how does this all tie in to the Windows OS? Or is it even a form of Windows OS? I am tired and confused;)
Possible? Oh yeah! I have personally seen to it that the secret roadmap for this 'scaled down' OS was delivered right to my door this morning. Even though I will probably suffer a fate worse that death itself for disclosing it here, I am willing to take that chance for/.
If I didn't have my beloved Zaurus, I might try Lycoris... but only if you threatened me at gunpoint of course. Or maybe poked me with a sharp stick a few times:)
You have made some excellent points, jonadab. Microsoft will never just 'go under'... at least not as far as I can forsee. Personally, I think Microsoft will eventually just turn into a hardware company. This is just my own $0.02 of course, but when comparing their software and hardware offerings, once cannot overlook the fact that their hardware (for the most part) is well though out and built. Their software, on the other hand, is not. Very strange for a company whose main product line consists almost entirely of software products.
You have to look at the common life cycles of technology and the companies that drive it. In the technology sector, there has never been one company who has remained consistant through the course of time... Microsoft coming the closest of course. You must also consider that these life cycles are getting shorter as technology moves ahead on both hardware/software planes. Let's look at the proprietary software model, for instance. Most proprietary models are developed in a 'clean room' enviromnent by a limited number of engineers on a limited amount of hardware. While this may, in some cases, produce a very tight product, the release cycle is very slow and the chances of hardware incompatibilities are greater (depending on their budget of course).
Open source software, on the other hand, is developed at a mind numbing rate and developed by thousands of programmers around the world. Given the ever-shrinking techology life cycles and the rate of development for both models, the winner is clear. Microsoft can not compete. This is not to say that they will simply die, because they won't. What we will see is a form of mutation of the company as they reorganize and refocus their energies on the products that they know are strong. In my opinion, this will be in the hardware sector, but like any opinion.. I could be dead wrong.
"UnitedLinux enables more rapid adoption of Linux in the enterprise, which, in turn allows customers to reap the benefits of Linux with lower risk and cost."
This info directly copied from SCO's site. WTF? What about lower risks???? HAH.
Doesn't this seem a bit absurd for them to be parading around wearing slogans such as this? I mean, what exactly is the point of this convention? From an innocent bystander it appears to be a propaganda vehicle... which, as it appears, they were having trouble even getting people to accept free passes to ride.
Well, at least the head count was low. Not too many people looking like complete idiots.
Yes it would actually, but our idea is to build a system that "runs out of the box". Something so simple to set up and use that most windows and mac converts will be able to be instantly productive. In speaking with Bero from Ark, we will probably also package a suite as an additional ISO... probably for the Ark distro, but I don't see why we couldn't further that effort for other distros as well.
As far as hits go, we have received 27158 from slashdot today so far while the site was active (3:36PM PST). I am not sure of the bandwidth yet... still waiting for a resonse from our provider. I'll give you more when I get it.
You know, I'm not sure yet. I had to move the site to another hosting provider after it ate up all of my bandwidth on my own pipe. The hosting provider hasn't made the logs available to me yet, but as soon as they do, I'll gladly post here for you;)
All I know is that the site would start to choke at around 750-775 connected users. While changing settings, I think the provider broke something on their end with sql. Probably a permission issue... at leat it looks like that to me. MadPenguin is down completely now. Snowball effect.:(
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"On what grounds does SCO base this license on? They have proven nothing legally."
It is surely not a legal contract, so what are we buying from SCO? Nothin but thin (hot) air, and the US government is allowing this kind of business to take place. Even though the SCO lawyers are completely out of their minds, they are playing the US govt for fools and doing a damn good job of it. In the end, it is the governments fault for allowing this to continue unchecked. Microsoft is another great example of a government who is turning a blind eye to corporations of America walking all over the consumers. To eliminate lunacy such as this, our government NEEDS to intervene. Period. Where the hell is our tax money going anyway? Iraq? WTF
Quit using MS Outlook. It's address book is a well written virus cannon capable of well-aimed bursts or scatter shot that can cover the globe in days. Outlook Express is no different. It may be a crippled version of Outlook but we all know it's cannon functions exactly the same way. ;-)
Maybe I spoke too soon... looks like this is not an MS product, but even still, how does this all tie in to the Windows OS? Or is it even a form of Windows OS? I am tired and confused ;)
"Fear the penguin"
What about MS licensing? what are the limitations of distributing something like this? Knowing Microsoft It can't be free..... can it?
"Fear the penguin"
Windows XP Shortcut Edition
Top Secret Roadmap
If I didn't have my beloved Zaurus, I might try Lycoris... but only if you threatened me at gunpoint of course. Or maybe poked me with a sharp stick a few times :)
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it was their AOL bill that wasn't paid? hmmmm...
You have made some excellent points, jonadab. Microsoft will never just 'go under'... at least not as far as I can forsee. Personally, I think Microsoft will eventually just turn into a hardware company. This is just my own $0.02 of course, but when comparing their software and hardware offerings, once cannot overlook the fact that their hardware (for the most part) is well though out and built. Their software, on the other hand, is not. Very strange for a company whose main product line consists almost entirely of software products.
You have to look at the common life cycles of technology and the companies that drive it. In the technology sector, there has never been one company who has remained consistant through the course of time... Microsoft coming the closest of course. You must also consider that these life cycles are getting shorter as technology moves ahead on both hardware/software planes. Let's look at the proprietary software model, for instance. Most proprietary models are developed in a 'clean room' enviromnent by a limited number of engineers on a limited amount of hardware. While this may, in some cases, produce a very tight product, the release cycle is very slow and the chances of hardware incompatibilities are greater (depending on their budget of course).
Open source software, on the other hand, is developed at a mind numbing rate and developed by thousands of programmers around the world. Given the ever-shrinking techology life cycles and the rate of development for both models, the winner is clear. Microsoft can not compete. This is not to say that they will simply die, because they won't. What we will see is a form of mutation of the company as they reorganize and refocus their energies on the products that they know are strong. In my opinion, this will be in the hardware sector, but like any opinion.. I could be dead wrong.
Oh.. and I quote:
"UnitedLinux enables more rapid adoption of Linux in the enterprise, which, in turn allows customers to reap the benefits of Linux with lower risk and cost."
This info directly copied from SCO's site. WTF? What about lower risks???? HAH.
the meaning of this?
http://www.sco.com/unitedlinux/
I mean, doesn't SCO think Linux is built on pure evil? Why are they still a part of this coalition?
Us too.
We wrote them a letter questioning them and have thus far been met with silence. Here's the letter... That sure tells alot about them, doesn't it.
This was the most amusing and amazing thing to me, as simple as it was:
"Got Unix in your Linux?"
Doesn't this seem a bit absurd for them to be parading around wearing slogans such as this? I mean, what exactly is the point of this convention? From an innocent bystander it appears to be a propaganda vehicle... which, as it appears, they were having trouble even getting people to accept free passes to ride.
Well, at least the head count was low. Not too many people looking like complete idiots.
My $0.02
MadPenguin out >:)
http://www.thewaxmonkey.com/madpenguin.org/sld10.h tml
Just in case ;)
http://www.madpenguin.org/slashdot/sld10.html
is inappropriate ;)
That would be nothing different than his normal BS. I'd put money on hearing a buzzword at least every fourth or fifth word. Any takers on that? ;)
Both of you guys are absolutely correct. Hats off to Sean Reilly!
Their day of reckoning ?!?!
:(
Is this guy for real? I guess lawsuit cash is better than no cash as far as McBride is concerned... though not in my book.
Too bad that everyone has to put up with shit like this.
And how does that relate? heheh :)
Ok, but the problem with that is that most providers offer mysql :(
:)
Anyone know any good cost-effective providers who offer other alternatives that can handle to connections needed for a serious slashdotting
Yes it would actually, but our idea is to build a system that "runs out of the box". Something so simple to set up and use that most windows and mac converts will be able to be instantly productive. In speaking with Bero from Ark, we will probably also package a suite as an additional ISO... probably for the Ark distro, but I don't see why we couldn't further that effort for other distros as well.
Keeping our fingers crossed this time. Sorry for the inconvenience /. :)
As far as hits go, we have received 27158 from slashdot today so far while the site was active (3:36PM PST). I am not sure of the bandwidth yet... still waiting for a resonse from our provider. I'll give you more when I get it.
We're trying! Some serious db issues now... not related to /. so to speak, but a definate OUCH :)
You know, I'm not sure yet. I had to move the site to another hosting provider after it ate up all of my bandwidth on my own pipe. The hosting provider hasn't made the logs available to me yet, but as soon as they do, I'll gladly post here for you ;)
All I know is that the site would start to choke at around 750-775 connected users. While changing settings, I think the provider broke something on their end with sql. Probably a permission issue... at leat it looks like that to me. MadPenguin is down completely now. Snowball effect. :(