change the name to "gnaime" or "gnaim"? You could even take an audio cut from American Pie....I would love it if every time I logged onto AOL's IM service, I heard "Say my gnaim, bitch!" upon connecting.
There's a reason it doesn't do a box-by-box hardware check. Say you're porting linux to the PS2. Since the PS2 doesn't have python installed on it (or linux...), you need to compile the kernel on whatever box you normally run, then send it over to the PS2. So, it may not boot on the box you compiled it on, but it will boot...somewhere.
on kernel configuration. I think it was Keith Owens who spoke first, and after him it was ESR. ESR is working on a new python interface that will be based on deductive logic I think, and it will prevent people from creating an invalid kernel configuration.
There was some discussion as to why it had to be in Python. ESR said it could be done in C, but he declined to do it, since it would be _hard_. At any rate, it will be sweet when there is logic checking in the kernel and it won't be possible to start compilation of an invalid configuration - the idea is that with this logic, whatever you make will _boot_.
Now is they can just decrease my compile times from 20 minutes to under 1 minute...
It has nothing to do with doing a lousy job. You can do kick ass job, but when a deadline is three hours away, you tend to compile things until they work, without taking the time to understand the code.
With free software we have no deadlines; we can afford to take the time to understand the code, and instead of releasing something that just compiles and "works", we release things that work because we KNOW how they work.
Not really. Windows programmers get paid to write code, and laziness in this sense means getting the project done quickly and out to market. We in the Linux community write software in our free time because we love it, and do not release things until they kick ass.
I like the Slashdot crowd, and I recognize that most people here are only paranoid in an intelligent fashion, but it seems like every article I see on here anymore is people whining about how this new technology X is going to be used against us.
The problem with this viewpoint it that it flies in the face of the fact that most of us think DeCSS should be legal. We sit here and say that the new X technology is bad because it will be used against us; Judge Kaplan basically said the same thing when he ruled against DeCSS.
The fact of the matter is, this new corporate technology does have a legitimate business purpose. The same can be (and should be) said for DeCSS. We don't come down against DeCSS just because it can be used for piracy; we should not come down on this because it can be used for snooping.
If you are doing sketchy internet stuff at work, either use PGP for mail and browse the web through www.safeweb.com, or SSH to your home machine and be sketchy from there.
I wasn't talking about the linux that will be on these systems - I was referring to linux as it is today. The linux kernel is nothing without gcc, ls, bash, and all the other GNU utils. Linux is a kernel; GNU/Linux is a system for operating a computer (ie, an OS).
But I ask you to consider: as developers, even for some sort of newbie hand-holding sort of PS2Linux, we cannot do anything without GNU apps - we cannot compile the X or mozilla you mention. We also can't port them without binutils or emacs (I prefer vi). We can't even compile the kernel on the PS2 without the MIPS cross-compile of gcc (ie runix). I think MR. Stallman and those who have programmed in the name of GNU deserve some credit.
And its funny about Linus...I remember reading one of those first newsgroup posts he made announcing Linux - he tried to drum up support for it by telling everyone that he had gotten gcc to work on it. 'Nuff said.
Heh - "mission critical software that lives depend on." I don't think such a thing exists. When we (we being biomedical engineers) need a computational device that cannot fail, we do EVERYTHING in hardware - that way, it quite literally cannot fail.
I gotta ask: how are they getting the data off CDROM? THE PS1 can only read CD-XA format - you have to put a mod chip in it in order to get it to read cd's you've burned. How'd they do it?
I hope they did mod it. I'd love to know the next time I go to the Doc's office, that he's a hacker too.
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almost forgot - I don't care if he thinks Linus is from Holland, let's all thank this guy for using the term GNU/Linux.
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first off, X has already been ported to the PS2 - go to the japanese site, they have a shot of windowmaker running on it.
Secondly, all the PS2 really is, is a MIPS processor. Linux AND gcc run on MIPS. gcc has been ported to the ps2 as well.
The kernel does memory management. Having ported the kernel to the PS2, the job of memory management has been taken care of. Now you just havta compile stuff on it.
The Linux PS2 kit includes a special adapter for outputting to CRT's. Something about having to have a "Sync on Green" compatible monitor.
It's got 2 USB, 1 firewire (4 not 6 pin, you have to supply power), and 1 pcmcia slot. Its only limitation is that it does not have any PCI or ISA expansion slots.
That said, the damn thing can do 6.2 gigaflops. Plus, it's been custom designed for floating-point ops and graphics. Need I say more?
they tapped a line (not fiber) in the Sea of Okhotsk, to eavesdrop on Russian military ops. They tapped it by sending a sub in to Okhotsk - this is like the Russians putting a sub in the Chesapeake bay - then several years later, an ex-NSA agent told the Russians about it. The tapping device, with a large "Property of The US Government" seal on it, is now sitting in a Moscow museum.
Yes but you have to reboot the laptop every time you do something useful. With linux and DVD on the laptop, now even YOU can watch an entire DVD without having to reboot:)
Windows has detected that you have moved your mouse. Windows will now reboot in order for this change to take effect.
altogether. I remember wasting time in class, sleeping, waiting for hours while the teachers explained things I already knew. Individual education in much better for the kid - teach him the things he wants to learn, you can go at a pace best suited for him - quickly through the things he can grasp, slowly in the things he doesn't. Teach him calculus, dif Eq., multivariate, stats, etc - get him prepared for college well before college. Plus, since he's not in public school anymore, at least *you* don't have to worry about him getting hurt when a truly crazy kid shoots up his school.
First off, I want to thank each and every RH programmer for contributing to software that I use: THANK YOU:)
Second, I don't hate Redhat. In the words of our president, I feel ambivalent towards it. And thats the problem. I want to like it. I ant to use it. But I can't (or won't), because using it requires me to learn RH specific things.
Are you guys contributing to WINE? My assertion was that with all RH's money, wine should be a done deal by now, and I should be able to run all my windoze apps on RH.
Can gcc-2.96 compile code that I can use on any linux distro??
nah. 7.0 seems to lock itself pretty fine from what my RH-running friends say (Im running Suse 7.0...Germans, efficiency - how can you argue against that?).
sure is nice that Rob has stopped his karma-whore mongering of Debian, isn't it? For today anyway...
Since/. has for today turned into a big promo ad for RH7.1, can I make a few suggestions?
Xinetd is a superserver blah blah blah...some of us still like to edit inetd.conf by hand; i have no problem with xinetd, but cant it just parse a inetd.conf, which you could leave in place? You've done this with other rcfiles as well; now, a person has to know UNIX (which includes linux) as well as "Redhat", which pisses me off. Why don't you guys just get rid of/etc...hell, just change / to C:\ while you're at it...
Which brings me to another question: wtf haven't you people jumped into wine? With all the coders RH has running around ("fixing bugs" = introducing distro incompatibilites in RH speak), I would think you people would have done this already. If you wanna take over the world, charge $30 for a free OS that will run windoze apps. What do you RH people do at "work"?
That said, I will be happy if gcc-2.95.x is in there. If youve gone and shipped another CVS snapshot and called it a compiler, well, there's no hope for ya.
instead of having to ask, "What happens if Linus and Alan get hit by a bus?" we can simply ask, "What happens if a bomb goes off at the Linux Kernel Summit."
encryption? I have several sites that exist for myself and a few friends. Access is strictly on a password-only basis. None of my sites are named f***uck anything, but if they were, encryption would be my first priority. As to his perl mistake, well, s***hit happens.
At any rate, you can't blame the schools or the cops. It's better to harass a few "potentially suspect" students in order to prevent a Columbine, than it is to watch one on the news.
I don't think so. Linus owns the copyright on linux because he explcitly includes the copyright in the tarball. So unless someone prefaces a message to you with a copyright notice, you can forward away.
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It is legal to own a gun, but it is not legal to shoot someone with it. Guns have fair uses: hunting, self-defense, etc. But using the gun to murder someone with it is not a fair use, and is thus illegal.
Similarly we have the DeCSS program. Most of us here run Linux, and want to use DeCSS to watch movies on our operating system of choice. We are willing to legally buy a DVD-ROM drive, as well as legal copies of movies on DVD's, and the DeCSS program is a device that facilitates our watching these movies on computers that we have legally purchased. In the privacy of our own homes, we should be able to do whatever we want with things that we have legally obtained.
That argument understandably stops, however, the moment we begin making illegal copies of said material or upload it to the internet. But just having DeCSS on my computer does not necessarily imply that I am going to infringe on the copyrights of the things that I have purchased. Under our constitution, it is legal for me to do what I wish with things I own in the privacy of my home. This protection stops when I do illegal things with it.
In our land, people are innocent until proven guilty. The current ruling on the DeCSS case, however, implies the presumption of guilt, namely, that by having this software, you are automatically going to use it for illegal purposes. I just hope our judicial system at some point realizes that there are people like me, who wish to use DeCSS for legal purposes, and that the people who use it for illegal purposes are going to have to be brought to justice one at a time, just like murderers are caught one at a time.
The Constitution protects my right to privacy, and it presumes that I am innocent until I am proven guilty. The DeCSS ruling directly violates both of these constitutional tenets, and therefore cannot stand.
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change the name to "gnaime" or "gnaim"? You could even take an audio cut from American Pie....I would love it if every time I logged onto AOL's IM service, I heard "Say my gnaim, bitch!" upon connecting.
so the moderators ARE on crack...this is modded as redundant...its the 18th comment....
There's a reason it doesn't do a box-by-box hardware check. Say you're porting linux to the PS2. Since the PS2 doesn't have python installed on it (or linux...), you need to compile the kernel on whatever box you normally run, then send it over to the PS2. So, it may not boot on the box you compiled it on, but it will boot...somewhere.
There was some discussion as to why it had to be in Python. ESR said it could be done in C, but he declined to do it, since it would be _hard_. At any rate, it will be sweet when there is logic checking in the kernel and it won't be possible to start compilation of an invalid configuration - the idea is that with this logic, whatever you make will _boot_.
Now is they can just decrease my compile times from 20 minutes to under 1 minute...
With free software we have no deadlines; we can afford to take the time to understand the code, and instead of releasing something that just compiles and "works", we release things that work because we KNOW how they work.
Not really. Windows programmers get paid to write code, and laziness in this sense means getting the project done quickly and out to market. We in the Linux community write software in our free time because we love it, and do not release things until they kick ass.
The problem with this viewpoint it that it flies in the face of the fact that most of us think DeCSS should be legal. We sit here and say that the new X technology is bad because it will be used against us; Judge Kaplan basically said the same thing when he ruled against DeCSS.
The fact of the matter is, this new corporate technology does have a legitimate business purpose. The same can be (and should be) said for DeCSS. We don't come down against DeCSS just because it can be used for piracy; we should not come down on this because it can be used for snooping.
If you are doing sketchy internet stuff at work, either use PGP for mail and browse the web through www.safeweb.com, or SSH to your home machine and be sketchy from there.
I wasn't talking about the linux that will be on these systems - I was referring to linux as it is today. The linux kernel is nothing without gcc, ls, bash, and all the other GNU utils. Linux is a kernel; GNU/Linux is a system for operating a computer (ie, an OS).
But I ask you to consider: as developers, even for some sort of newbie hand-holding sort of PS2Linux, we cannot do anything without GNU apps - we cannot compile the X or mozilla you mention. We also can't port them without binutils or emacs (I prefer vi). We can't even compile the kernel on the PS2 without the MIPS cross-compile of gcc (ie runix). I think MR. Stallman and those who have programmed in the name of GNU deserve some credit.
And its funny about Linus...I remember reading one of those first newsgroup posts he made announcing Linux - he tried to drum up support for it by telling everyone that he had gotten gcc to work on it. 'Nuff said.
Heh - "mission critical software that lives depend on." I don't think such a thing exists. When we (we being biomedical engineers) need a computational device that cannot fail, we do EVERYTHING in hardware - that way, it quite literally cannot fail.
I hope they did mod it. I'd love to know the next time I go to the Doc's office, that he's a hacker too.
It's called USB. The PS2 has 2 USB ports.
almost forgot - I don't care if he thinks Linus is from Holland, let's all thank this guy for using the term GNU/Linux.
Secondly, all the PS2 really is, is a MIPS processor. Linux AND gcc run on MIPS. gcc has been ported to the ps2 as well.
The kernel does memory management. Having ported the kernel to the PS2, the job of memory management has been taken care of. Now you just havta compile stuff on it.
The Linux PS2 kit includes a special adapter for outputting to CRT's. Something about having to have a "Sync on Green" compatible monitor.
It's got 2 USB, 1 firewire (4 not 6 pin, you have to supply power), and 1 pcmcia slot. Its only limitation is that it does not have any PCI or ISA expansion slots.
That said, the damn thing can do 6.2 gigaflops. Plus, it's been custom designed for floating-point ops and graphics. Need I say more?
No, it's actually all true.
they tapped a line (not fiber) in the Sea of Okhotsk, to eavesdrop on Russian military ops. They tapped it by sending a sub in to Okhotsk - this is like the Russians putting a sub in the Chesapeake bay - then several years later, an ex-NSA agent told the Russians about it. The tapping device, with a large "Property of The US Government" seal on it, is now sitting in a Moscow museum.
Windows has detected that you have moved your mouse. Windows will now reboot in order for this change to take effect.
altogether. I remember wasting time in class, sleeping, waiting for hours while the teachers explained things I already knew. Individual education in much better for the kid - teach him the things he wants to learn, you can go at a pace best suited for him - quickly through the things he can grasp, slowly in the things he doesn't. Teach him calculus, dif Eq., multivariate, stats, etc - get him prepared for college well before college. Plus, since he's not in public school anymore, at least *you* don't have to worry about him getting hurt when a truly crazy kid shoots up his school.
Second, I don't hate Redhat. In the words of our president, I feel ambivalent towards it. And thats the problem. I want to like it. I ant to use it. But I can't (or won't), because using it requires me to learn RH specific things.
Are you guys contributing to WINE? My assertion was that with all RH's money, wine should be a done deal by now, and I should be able to run all my windoze apps on RH.
Can gcc-2.96 compile code that I can use on any linux distro??
nah. 7.0 seems to lock itself pretty fine from what my RH-running friends say (Im running Suse 7.0...Germans, efficiency - how can you argue against that?).
Since /. has for today turned into a big promo ad for RH7.1, can I make a few suggestions?
Xinetd is a superserver blah blah blah...some of us still like to edit inetd.conf by hand; i have no problem with xinetd, but cant it just parse a inetd.conf, which you could leave in place? You've done this with other rcfiles as well; now, a person has to know UNIX (which includes linux) as well as "Redhat", which pisses me off. Why don't you guys just get rid of /etc...hell, just change / to C:\ while you're at it...
Which brings me to another question: wtf haven't you people jumped into wine? With all the coders RH has running around ("fixing bugs" = introducing distro incompatibilites in RH speak), I would think you people would have done this already. If you wanna take over the world, charge $30 for a free OS that will run windoze apps. What do you RH people do at "work"?
That said, I will be happy if gcc-2.95.x is in there. If youve gone and shipped another CVS snapshot and called it a compiler, well, there's no hope for ya.
instead of having to ask, "What happens if Linus and Alan get hit by a bus?" we can simply ask, "What happens if a bomb goes off at the Linux Kernel Summit."
At any rate, you can't blame the schools or the cops. It's better to harass a few "potentially suspect" students in order to prevent a Columbine, than it is to watch one on the news.
had a software division? Wow...I thought they just sold books...Silly me.
I don't think so. Linus owns the copyright on linux because he explcitly includes the copyright in the tarball. So unless someone prefaces a message to you with a copyright notice, you can forward away.
Similarly we have the DeCSS program. Most of us here run Linux, and want to use DeCSS to watch movies on our operating system of choice. We are willing to legally buy a DVD-ROM drive, as well as legal copies of movies on DVD's, and the DeCSS program is a device that facilitates our watching these movies on computers that we have legally purchased. In the privacy of our own homes, we should be able to do whatever we want with things that we have legally obtained.
That argument understandably stops, however, the moment we begin making illegal copies of said material or upload it to the internet. But just having DeCSS on my computer does not necessarily imply that I am going to infringe on the copyrights of the things that I have purchased. Under our constitution, it is legal for me to do what I wish with things I own in the privacy of my home. This protection stops when I do illegal things with it.
In our land, people are innocent until proven guilty. The current ruling on the DeCSS case, however, implies the presumption of guilt, namely, that by having this software, you are automatically going to use it for illegal purposes. I just hope our judicial system at some point realizes that there are people like me, who wish to use DeCSS for legal purposes, and that the people who use it for illegal purposes are going to have to be brought to justice one at a time, just like murderers are caught one at a time.
The Constitution protects my right to privacy, and it presumes that I am innocent until I am proven guilty. The DeCSS ruling directly violates both of these constitutional tenets, and therefore cannot stand.