Apple is an American company that makes macs. Don't you think it would be easiest to start the system in America with macs? FYI, they are working on expanding to windows as well as to the rest of the world. My understanding is that they wanted to get the system up and running with this small group (that would be the easiest for them to cater to right away) and get everything working smoothly and have all the kinks worked out before opening up this (what looks to be) hugely popular service to another 5 billion people. Perhaps since this is slashdot, the following will explain how they plan to become popular:
Step 1: Make service good first Step 2: Open up now seamless service to whole world Step 3: PROFIT!
(I know it doesn't quite fit the joke, but you've gotta expect Jobs to have a better business model than some silly gnomes...)
You're right, eating was a bad example. And I'm sorry if I'm just being complete dense here, but here's how I'm seeing it: A person file-shares (let's consider this the behavior). They get sued (an unfavorable stimulus gets added to the environment). Their original behavior of file-sharing then no longer occurs (obviously decreasing the likelyhood that the behavior will be repeated). I'm really failing to see how this is not operant conditioning.
"Operant conditioning is a proces sby which the consequences of a response increase or decrease the likelihood that the response occurs again."
The increased (or decreased chance) you'll do something based off of the consequneces of a response...
Isn't this exactly what's happening to that person?
Negitive reinforcement promotes a behavior by removing an undesirable stimulus making it occur more. Positive reinforcement promotes a behavior by rewarding with a positive stimulus. Positive punishment deters a behavior by adding an undesirable stimulus (adding a lawsuit), while negative punishment deters a behavior by taking away a positive stimulus (a parent refusing a child their allowance).
I did a quick Google Search for sources that back this up. This is a good example.
Sorry, I've gotta be a semantic off-topic bastard here. (on/., what? since when...?)
Classic conditioning, you eat and hunger goes away.
That's another example of operant conditioning. You eat, the negative stimili of hunger goes away. It's negative reinforcement--you'll be more likely to repeat the behavior in the future. Classical conditioning is where you associate an additional stimuli into the equation. For example, X=getting drilled at the dentist, Y=sound of the drill, Z=wincing from pain. X causes Z, while Y occurs every time X happens. Eventually, Y (Even though it doesn't really cause any pain--X does this), can still make Z happen. (sorry for the letters, I'm lazy...) The suing the one person is sill operant conditioning. They do a behavior (file-share), get a big 'ol conditioning lawsuit (positive punishment), and are thus less likely to repeat said behavior. Just a little technical correction, your main point was very insightful.
Very good point, and since the new standard in media seems to be mp3, the record companies must be not too happy that we can "upgrade" ourselves (ripping). without paying them. Although it's not really an improved media (in terms of quality, not versatility, I mean), as you said, it's "good enough" for me and most people.
Perhaps, but it would be a hard case to sell that to a review board when I appeal on grounds that I'm being discriminated against because I have a computer.
C'mon now--you can't really think that is "discrimination" can you? You can choose to bring a notebook to class, what is stopping you? Unless you require it because of some disablity, I don't understand how you can consider it such. I think this is kind of an insult to people who face discrimination daily because of things outside their control, personally. Hey, if I can afford a massage chair and a prof won't let me bring it to class, that's discrimination, right? Other people get to sit, just because I can afford a massage chair, he has to let me have it in class, right? It's discrimination otherwise... I'm a college student and I think that a prof should be able to set whatever kind of *reasonable* limitations on his classroom that he wants. I think that not allowing laptops fits.
A public university *is* a legally defined public place.
Not everybody goes to a public university, I don't think anyone said it happened specifically in one. Don't profs hold some sort of intellectual property rights over their lectures?
Sorry, I could have been more clear. I didn't mean that I had "no clue about computers"; I was just sure that a great deal of people that read slashdot know more than I do about such things and that I would be receptive to clarification if I was mistaken. It wasn't intended to be a mindless posting, but, rather, a relevant fact that pertained to the conversation at hand. If my horrible taste in computers offends you, I apologize. I spent my money on a computer with the software, stability, and capabilities I was looking for. I wish you the best of luck in finding a computer that will not categorize you in an unfavorable manner. Furthermore, I don't have any real desire to lick Steve Jobs' asshole. As such, I expect I will refrain from such behavior in the future. I hope this clears up most of these points for you. *ahem*
Good point. I forgot to mention that, you're absolutely right. I've had some more advanced pages that also wouldn't load. I do have hope that this will get worked out (it is still only a beta, after all). I have confidence that apple will be able to get this browser to be a pretty seemless way to view the internet in not long. It's my main browser already.
It seems to me that Apple already has a workaround for problems like this in the works (I apologize, if I'm reading into this wrong, I'm probably not the most computer literate person on slashdot...). But anyway, I've got the newest Safari public beta, and in the debug menu there is an option called "user agents." I believe you can use this to make it imitate IE for these websites. If not, I'm sure I can expect a correction very shortly. I hope this helps.
There's actually one less step for the mac than you listed...so the PC has more than double the steps! You said:
2. Plug power into the monitor.
3. Plug the monitor into the tower.
If you use a pretty apple monitor you only have to plug the monitor to the tower and it gets power through there. It's beautiful, really. (oh, and you can plug the keyboard into the monitor, I've found that more convenient) Your point is even better than you thought.
If so we have the solution! For the low price of $54,233,232.00 you too can purchase a computer, music player, and music service that says you ARE AN INDIVIDUAL. As more and more individuals by these products it only FURTHER affirms your individuality!
Hey, it's still a lot cheaper than the alternative... Oh, and congrats on the $27 million bargain computer there....
I know this has been mentioned before, but, IIRC, Steve Jobs mentioned a windows compatable version coming "by year's end." Also, I read of a possibility of AOL adapting this. Hope this helps...
etcreed
I think the only people who will think that their monitor can also function as a sweet speaker, are the same people who cannot differentiate between a C.D and a 128kbps MP3, and sadly they still do exist.
Sadly they still exist? Please. Just because somebody doesn't live up to audiophile standards doesn't mean they're complete idiots, or even lesser music fans. This isn't just your comment that I'm referring to. I wonder what the reaction will be to this, but I usually use the internal speaker in my G4 tower to listen to music. It's good enough for me. I can hear the music and it doesn't take up any more room in my dorm room. If I really need to hear a part with complete clarity (in order to learn it, for example, yes I am a musician, too), then I can put in headphones. My personal opinion is that audio equipment that costs thousands of dollars in unnecessary. I have friends that disagree. That does not make either of us wrong or "idiots" (not in the post that I'm replying to, but in another one somewhere...). I'm sorry if this is taken as a flame, it wasn't intended as one. I just want to assert the view that just because people have differing needs when it comes to audio, they're not any less intelligent. Personally, this would be very cool for me. This is a tech that would be perfect for someone like me. Sadly, we do still exist.
Slashdot Mirror
I'm thinking you didn't remove the space. Try this link.
Apple is an American company that makes macs. Don't you think it would be easiest to start the system in America with macs? FYI, they are working on expanding to windows as well as to the rest of the world. My understanding is that they wanted to get the system up and running with this small group (that would be the easiest for them to cater to right away) and get everything working smoothly and have all the kinks worked out before opening up this (what looks to be) hugely popular service to another 5 billion people. Perhaps since this is slashdot, the following will explain how they plan to become popular:
Step 1: Make service good first
Step 2: Open up now seamless service to whole world
Step 3: PROFIT!
(I know it doesn't quite fit the joke, but you've gotta expect Jobs to have a better business model than some silly gnomes...)
I did a quick Google Search for sources that back this up. This is a good example.
The suing the one person is sill operant conditioning. They do a behavior (file-share), get a big 'ol conditioning lawsuit (positive punishment), and are thus less likely to repeat said behavior. Just a little technical correction, your main point was very insightful.
don't you mean all these "... in soviet russia.." jokes are SICKEN TIRED of you? I know...I'm sorry...
Yes, The majority of albums are available for $9.99. Hope this helps. Also,(and I know it's not exactly the same), you get cover art as well.
Very good point, and since the new standard in media seems to be mp3, the record companies must be not too happy that we can "upgrade" ourselves (ripping). without paying them. Although it's not really an improved media (in terms of quality, not versatility, I mean), as you said, it's "good enough" for me and most people.
C'mon now--you can't really think that is "discrimination" can you? You can choose to bring a notebook to class, what is stopping you? Unless you require it because of some disablity, I don't understand how you can consider it such. I think this is kind of an insult to people who face discrimination daily because of things outside their control, personally. Hey, if I can afford a massage chair and a prof won't let me bring it to class, that's discrimination, right? Other people get to sit, just because I can afford a massage chair, he has to let me have it in class, right? It's discrimination otherwise...
I'm a college student and I think that a prof should be able to set whatever kind of *reasonable* limitations on his classroom that he wants. I think that not allowing laptops fits.
Not everybody goes to a public university, I don't think anyone said it happened specifically in one. Don't profs hold some sort of intellectual property rights over their lectures?
Sorry, I could have been more clear. I didn't mean that I had "no clue about computers"; I was just sure that a great deal of people that read slashdot know more than I do about such things and that I would be receptive to clarification if I was mistaken. It wasn't intended to be a mindless posting, but, rather, a relevant fact that pertained to the conversation at hand. If my horrible taste in computers offends you, I apologize. I spent my money on a computer with the software, stability, and capabilities I was looking for. I wish you the best of luck in finding a computer that will not categorize you in an unfavorable manner. Furthermore, I don't have any real desire to lick Steve Jobs' asshole. As such, I expect I will refrain from such behavior in the future. I hope this clears up most of these points for you. *ahem*
Good point. I forgot to mention that, you're absolutely right. I've had some more advanced pages that also wouldn't load. I do have hope that this will get worked out (it is still only a beta, after all). I have confidence that apple will be able to get this browser to be a pretty seemless way to view the internet in not long. It's my main browser already.
It seems to me that Apple already has a workaround for problems like this in the works (I apologize, if I'm reading into this wrong, I'm probably not the most computer literate person on slashdot...). But anyway, I've got the newest Safari public beta, and in the debug menu there is an option called "user agents." I believe you can use this to make it imitate IE for these websites. If not, I'm sure I can expect a correction very shortly. I hope this helps.
Oh, and congrats on the $27 million bargain computer there....
I know this has been mentioned before, but, IIRC, Steve Jobs mentioned a windows compatable version coming "by year's end." Also, I read of a possibility of AOL adapting this. Hope this helps... etcreed