That meme died a long time ago. Macs, particularly the iMac and the Mac Pro (which is $1,000 less than the equivalently configured Dell workstation), give you a LOT of value for your dollar.
Apple-haters really need to find some new material.
Dell sells in two weeks what Apple sells in a year.
No, they don't. If you look at the numbers, Apple is close to overtaking Gateway as the third-biggest computer maker, selling only 38,000 less units than Gateway last quarter with a total of 1.61 million Macs sold.
It's fanboi comments like this that make the Apple Religious laughing stocks
Have you seen your nick lately? Shouldn't you be off waiting for an IE7 patch? It's comments like yours that make posting smackdowns on Slashdot a real joy on a Thursday.
Actually, Vista adopts the Mac OS X filesystem layout, so "Documents and Settings" is now "Users," "My Documents" is now "Documents," "My Music" is no longer a subfolder of My Documents and is now a sibling folder named "Music," and so forth.
Thurrott has referred to it as a rewrite at his websites, as have several Slashdot posters in the past. Those are the people I was referring to, not Microsoft.
I can only rely on anecdotes here, as every laptop I've ever owned has included some form of scrolling functionality.
Well, you can switch the sidebar buttons off (and have been able to since I started using it), and I don't spend enough time on the contacts list to really care much about the banner ad on that, which is reasonably small and unobtrusive. The text link ads on the conversation windows irritated me a little at first, but so far the usefulness of the app outweighs the irritation factor.
Whoa! There are actually ads in your conversation windows?! That's lame. I guess I'm so used to the minimalist iChat that it freaks me out when I take a look at what the PC users are running for their IM clients.
That makes it worse. Not only is IE7 not a "rewrite" as some claimed, but it doesn't fix known vulnerabilities in its previous version. At least if it was new code, you could understand and expect an unknown vulnerability.
Well, you could argue that it was quickly discovered to still exist in IE7. Interestingly, this vulnerability contradicts claims that IE7 is a rewrite. Clearly, it is not.
Over on the right side - you mean just above the scrollbar, that a lot of users will be using to scroll with? Their mouse will already be on that side of the screen. In fact, with the lack of a menu bar, there's no reason to not be there, as there's little or nothing on the left of note.
Thank you for mentioning the lack of a menu bar, a criticism I left out. As for the scroll bar, everybody uses the mouse wheel now! And that doesn't change the fact that putting the toolbar on the tab bar gives you less room for tabs.
You like Windows Live Messenger with its banner ads and 20 sidebar buttons? I've never seen such a jam-packed interface. Yikes!
Yeah, it's so that when you load up Vista for the first time, your Start menu will be jam-packed with Windows Internet Explorer, Windows Mail, Windows Media Center, Windows Media Player, Windows Live Messenger download, Windows Calendar, Windows Defender, and more.
The marketing group controls Microsoft now, which makes sense since the guy leading it, Ballmer, is a marketing guy. It's the reason we have 14 versions of Vista coming out.
Are you serious? You're calling IE7's interface "cleaner?" IE7 doesn't expose any more space than IE6 does for the web view, and it actually gives you less space on the tab bar by jamming the toolbar onto it. Worse yet, they stupidly put it on the right side so you have to mouse further to get to it, as well as placing the stop and refresh buttons on the right side of the address bar. And even if you only have one window open, you're always stuck with a tab that has a weird, pseudo-mini-tab to the right of it which looks hideous.
If anything, Microsoft is getting even uglier (have you seen Vista or Windows Live Messenger? Blech).
Frankly, IE7 is a disaster in terms of a sane interface. It's bizarre--toolbar buttons on the same row with the tabs, giving you less space. A weird mini-tab always visible. Stop and refresh over on the right side of the address bar. The weird button+drop-down menu motif of the toolbar.
It's 2006, and Microsoft STILL hasn't learned how to simplify its interfaces? On the contrary, they're complicating them even further.
Animals hurt the planet they live on too. Throughout evolution, there have been entire species killed off by more dominant species, and groups of animals have spread to other areas and changed the environment there to the detriment of what already lived there.
I think some people put up an anti-mankind mindset to make themselves feel like they're hip and intellectual, and I doubt our impact on the environment is as great as global warming alarmists have made it out to be (I notice Slashdot didn't report about the lack of an active hurricane season this year or the recent below-average temperatures).
If they could, the other species we share Earth with would surely vote us off the planet.
Is this really true? If cockroaches could vote, wouldn't we be just another insignificant but prevalent species to them? Roaches don't give a damn about us, they keep rolling like it's still the age of the dinosaurs.
No, to "lay platform foundation." You have to see this from the Microsoft marketing department's perspective, because they control the company (Ballmer himself is a marketing guy). In other words, XBox 360 exists to extend the Windows platform and technologies into the living room (both XBoxes ran a variant of Windows and DirectX). Just like the Zune, which exists to extend the Windows platform and technologies into the digital media market.
If you examine everything Microsoft does using this perspective, it gets easier to predict their moves. For example, Windows Live doesn't exist to replace Windows with online services; it exists to tie web services into Windows and extend Windows technologies across the Internet.
Actually, I think it was probably due to Microsoft having the specter of the Playstation 3 hanging over them, and some marketing kooks took over and decided consumers would never go for something that dares to have one less of a number than the competition, because we're all idiots who don't choose consoles based on the games. But they couldn't call it the XBox 3, so they did the "next best thing" and called it the XBox 360.
XBox itself is a stupid name, and it was probably thought up by the same marketing kooks. "It's got an 'X' so it'll appeal to the young demographic who just love the letter X, and we'll call it a 'box' because hardcore geeks refer to their PCs as boxes, so it's got demo coverage and wraparound market applicability with potential for cross-marketing. Genius!"
That's actually a really old version that those instructions are for, as evidenced by the fact that Shift constrains circles now, not Ctrl. You can either select a circle, then use Edit->Stroke Selection and select the width of the line, or Select->Border after selecting a circle, then fill it with a color or pattern.
Maybe someone should clue you into the fact that drawing a circle also counts as manipulating an image. Hey, if GIMP doesn't want to provide braindead basic features that every basic user would need every day, that's fine. But don't expect any respect in return.
For crying out loud, you're actually arguing that providing a simple circle primitive tool is UI clutter. It's this kind of dismissal of user demands that has cause so many people to turn against GIMP. "You just don't understand what the focus of the program is, therefore your needs don't matter. Go use something else and don't clutter my interface." Yeah, and fuck off to you to...
Use the elliptical select tool, hold down CTRL key to constrain as circle, fill the selected area with new color, right click on selected area, choose SELECT, SHRINK, shrink selection by whatever number of pixels you want your circle width to be, right click again in selected area, choose EDIT, CUT. Voila, one beautifully antialased circle.
Why don't I dance around on one foot while playing "We Didn't Start The Fire" on the flute while I'm at it?
Photoshop, among many other apps, has a bounding window-- this helps keep your workspace organized.
Amusingly, such windows are intended to emulate Mac desktop behavior which doesn't use the Win32 parent-child window paradigm, and you see that big, gray background window in a lot of Mac ports. Windows-only programs, on the other hand, seem to want to cram everything onto the main window in attached sidebars.
No. Obviously, this particular user is a Mac user, so their needs are not met by GIMP and its X11 dependency. Mac is the platform of choice for graphic design, and what does Linux or BSD or Photoshop have to do with it?
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That meme died a long time ago. Macs, particularly the iMac and the Mac Pro (which is $1,000 less than the equivalently configured Dell workstation), give you a LOT of value for your dollar.
Apple-haters really need to find some new material.
No, they don't. If you look at the numbers, Apple is close to overtaking Gateway as the third-biggest computer maker, selling only 38,000 less units than Gateway last quarter with a total of 1.61 million Macs sold.
Have you seen your nick lately? Shouldn't you be off waiting for an IE7 patch? It's comments like yours that make posting smackdowns on Slashdot a real joy on a Thursday.
Actually, Vista adopts the Mac OS X filesystem layout, so "Documents and Settings" is now "Users," "My Documents" is now "Documents," "My Music" is no longer a subfolder of My Documents and is now a sibling folder named "Music," and so forth.
Thurrott has referred to it as a rewrite at his websites, as have several Slashdot posters in the past. Those are the people I was referring to, not Microsoft.
I have? I've mentioned it a total of...twice. In just this article.
Paul Thurrott, Slashdotters, and other enthusiasts have claimed IE7 is a rewrite. Take it up with them.
I can only rely on anecdotes here, as every laptop I've ever owned has included some form of scrolling functionality.
Whoa! There are actually ads in your conversation windows?! That's lame. I guess I'm so used to the minimalist iChat that it freaks me out when I take a look at what the PC users are running for their IM clients.
That makes it worse. Not only is IE7 not a "rewrite" as some claimed, but it doesn't fix known vulnerabilities in its previous version. At least if it was new code, you could understand and expect an unknown vulnerability.
Well, you could argue that it was quickly discovered to still exist in IE7. Interestingly, this vulnerability contradicts claims that IE7 is a rewrite. Clearly, it is not.
Thank you for mentioning the lack of a menu bar, a criticism I left out. As for the scroll bar, everybody uses the mouse wheel now! And that doesn't change the fact that putting the toolbar on the tab bar gives you less room for tabs.
You like Windows Live Messenger with its banner ads and 20 sidebar buttons? I've never seen such a jam-packed interface. Yikes!
Yeah, it's so that when you load up Vista for the first time, your Start menu will be jam-packed with Windows Internet Explorer, Windows Mail, Windows Media Center, Windows Media Player, Windows Live Messenger download, Windows Calendar, Windows Defender, and more.
The marketing group controls Microsoft now, which makes sense since the guy leading it, Ballmer, is a marketing guy. It's the reason we have 14 versions of Vista coming out.
Are you serious? You're calling IE7's interface "cleaner?" IE7 doesn't expose any more space than IE6 does for the web view, and it actually gives you less space on the tab bar by jamming the toolbar onto it. Worse yet, they stupidly put it on the right side so you have to mouse further to get to it, as well as placing the stop and refresh buttons on the right side of the address bar. And even if you only have one window open, you're always stuck with a tab that has a weird, pseudo-mini-tab to the right of it which looks hideous.
If anything, Microsoft is getting even uglier (have you seen Vista or Windows Live Messenger? Blech).
Frankly, IE7 is a disaster in terms of a sane interface. It's bizarre--toolbar buttons on the same row with the tabs, giving you less space. A weird mini-tab always visible. Stop and refresh over on the right side of the address bar. The weird button+drop-down menu motif of the toolbar.
It's 2006, and Microsoft STILL hasn't learned how to simplify its interfaces? On the contrary, they're complicating them even further.
Animals hurt the planet they live on too. Throughout evolution, there have been entire species killed off by more dominant species, and groups of animals have spread to other areas and changed the environment there to the detriment of what already lived there.
I think some people put up an anti-mankind mindset to make themselves feel like they're hip and intellectual, and I doubt our impact on the environment is as great as global warming alarmists have made it out to be (I notice Slashdot didn't report about the lack of an active hurricane season this year or the recent below-average temperatures).
Is this really true? If cockroaches could vote, wouldn't we be just another insignificant but prevalent species to them? Roaches don't give a damn about us, they keep rolling like it's still the age of the dinosaurs.
No, to "lay platform foundation." You have to see this from the Microsoft marketing department's perspective, because they control the company (Ballmer himself is a marketing guy). In other words, XBox 360 exists to extend the Windows platform and technologies into the living room (both XBoxes ran a variant of Windows and DirectX). Just like the Zune, which exists to extend the Windows platform and technologies into the digital media market.
If you examine everything Microsoft does using this perspective, it gets easier to predict their moves. For example, Windows Live doesn't exist to replace Windows with online services; it exists to tie web services into Windows and extend Windows technologies across the Internet.
Actually, I think it was probably due to Microsoft having the specter of the Playstation 3 hanging over them, and some marketing kooks took over and decided consumers would never go for something that dares to have one less of a number than the competition, because we're all idiots who don't choose consoles based on the games. But they couldn't call it the XBox 3, so they did the "next best thing" and called it the XBox 360.
XBox itself is a stupid name, and it was probably thought up by the same marketing kooks. "It's got an 'X' so it'll appeal to the young demographic who just love the letter X, and we'll call it a 'box' because hardcore geeks refer to their PCs as boxes, so it's got demo coverage and wraparound market applicability with potential for cross-marketing. Genius!"
Are you actually attempting to argue that most people don't want a circle tool?
That's actually a really old version that those instructions are for, as evidenced by the fact that Shift constrains circles now, not Ctrl. You can either select a circle, then use Edit->Stroke Selection and select the width of the line, or Select->Border after selecting a circle, then fill it with a color or pattern.
Wow, what an improvement! Next.
Uh...Macs have been dominant in graphic design for 20 years. They're half of Adobe's revenues for Photoshop alone.
Maybe someone should clue you into the fact that drawing a circle also counts as manipulating an image. Hey, if GIMP doesn't want to provide braindead basic features that every basic user would need every day, that's fine. But don't expect any respect in return.
For crying out loud, you're actually arguing that providing a simple circle primitive tool is UI clutter. It's this kind of dismissal of user demands that has cause so many people to turn against GIMP. "You just don't understand what the focus of the program is, therefore your needs don't matter. Go use something else and don't clutter my interface." Yeah, and fuck off to you to...
Do I also need to walk on water or raise the dead before we'll get a simple circle tool? Christ.
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Why don't I dance around on one foot while playing "We Didn't Start The Fire" on the flute while I'm at it?
Amusingly, such windows are intended to emulate Mac desktop behavior which doesn't use the Win32 parent-child window paradigm, and you see that big, gray background window in a lot of Mac ports. Windows-only programs, on the other hand, seem to want to cram everything onto the main window in attached sidebars.
No. Obviously, this particular user is a Mac user, so their needs are not met by GIMP and its X11 dependency. Mac is the platform of choice for graphic design, and what does Linux or BSD or Photoshop have to do with it?
Governments are elected by the people to enact laws. So, yeah, they do.