So, someone gave an opinion about KDE, and you responded by:
1.) Sniping at GNOME. 2.) Referencing what Linus Torvalds thinks for some reason, as if it has anything to do with anything (he also thinks Slashdot is a place where people who "don't know what they're talking about get together and have a public wanking session." This is a logical fallacy called appeal to authority.
I will never understand the emotional anti-GNOME hatred on Slashdot. To me, KDE never met a sidebar/button/dialog it didn't like. I like streamlined interfaces.
That's really it? New network and audio stacks? "Totally cool new printing system?" I already had this stuff in Mac OS X half a decade ago.
Every new end-user feature in Vista already exists elsewhere. If they're not busy ripping off OS X left and right (even down to the filesystem layout and app names), they're adding new DRM to the OS. Have fun!
For every "flop" you cite, I can name three incredible successes from Ive. One of the things they preach over at Apple is to learn from your mistakes, and quickly.
Actually, most of the things you cite are minor flaws. The Mighty Mouse right-clicks just fine, by the way. I wish every mouse had its scroll ball, as it's the most comfortable scrolling mechanism I've ever used.
Talk about a load of revisionist crap. Apple didn't "steal" squat from Lian-li's hideous cases. Apple pioneered the brushed-aluminum look before Lian-li had anything to do with it. You're just one of those bitter Apple haters who ignores the quality of their products and blindly assumes it's "everything to do with marketing." Well, have fun with your beige PC boxes.
P.S. Don't forget to thank Steve Jobs for making USB the standard connection port after making the iMacs USB-only, thereby forcing hardware manufacturers to embrace the standard. Same with Firewire.
A recent interview with Ive revealed that Apple spent months perfecting the balance of the iMac so that when it was bumped, it would immediately stabilize. It was actually something that held up the product until it was done, because Ive wanted it to be perfect. Competing products will continue to wobble. It's this attention to design and willingness to use research money to solve those kinds of problems that makes the Apple products so good.
Now, if only Jonathan Ive could design products that were as durable as they are beautiful.
Apple does. You can run over a nano with a car and it'll keep running. What you're talking about is external aesthetics which is different. My iBook, though used and scratched on the outside, is incredibly durable and has kept running in harsh conditions.
Apple products ARE durable. You can run over an iPod nano with a car and it'll still work.
Oh, you were talking about external aesthetics like little scratches, which has little to do with durability. Well, I've had my Mac mini since they came out, and it has not a single scratch on it. That's because I don't set shit on the shiny surface--seems like a pretty obvious thing not to do unless you want to scratch it.
The move was initially reported here on Slashdot yesterday.
Slashdot simply linked to someone ELSE's reporting. I see this all the time, Slashdot claiming it reported on something previously. No, it linked to another person's work.
1.) Can you cite this claim that record labels monitor P2P traffic to determine budgets? Why would they spend more money to break an album that they see is just getting pirated?
2.) What makes you think labels don't monitor CD club sales?
Merely using the word Darwinism is trolling? Do Slashdot posters these days even know what a troll is? Just because you disagree with someone does not make them a troll.
I'm fairly sure the loudness in movie previews is caused by a tendency in recent years for audio producers to make a sound "louder" by amplifying the audio signal.
You're fairly sure it's louder because they're making it louder?
EE Times is reporting that Microsoft may have chosen a side in the ongoing optical disk war.
The talk of HD-DVD in the X-Box 360 wasn't a hint? How about Microsoft's anti-Bluray press release which was blasted by Dell and others? Maybe Microsoft developing iHD for inclusion in HD-DVD was a clue? How about the fact Microsoft has been publicly supporting HD-DVD for the past year?
Congratulations on fulfilling the stereotype of the angry, anti-social basement geek with a sense of humor poor enough to think "less" is a good name for a program that does more than "more" or that "GNU Is Not Unix" is a funny acronym.
What's wrong with, I don't know, having a non-"humor" professional name that conveys friendliness and memorability? Apple's Aperture comes to mind.
Here, let me correct you, since you took the liberty of relying on the Windows apps' executable filenames and not their actual names while making sure the Linux names were all correctly capitalized with more descriptive names. The most obvious your renaming of Windows Media Player to "wmp." If this is the level of truth-twisting fanatical hysteria that comes from defending Linux on the desktop, average users will just stay away even more than they already do:
Web Browser Windows: iexpore, Opera, Mozilla, Firefox Linux: Opera Web Browser, Mozilla Web Browser, Firefox Web Browser
Internet Explorer, Opera, Mozilla, Firefox vs. Opera, Mozilla, Firefox
Graphics Editing Windows: photoshop (a place to buy photos?), illustrator Linux: GIMP Image Editor
Photoshop, Illustrator vs. GIMP (an app to edit photos of gimps?)
Movie Playback Windows: wmp Linux: Totem Movie Player, MPlayer, Xine, VLC Media Player
Windows Media Player, Media Player Classic vs. Totem, Mplayer, Xine, VLC
DVD Playback: Windows: WinDVD (what titles can I win?), wmp Linux: Totem Movie Player, Xine, VLC Media Player
WinDVD, Windows Media Player, CyberDVD, Media Player Classic vs. Totem (totem pole?), Xine (how is this pronounced, anyway?), VLC
Simple Text Editing Windows: Notepad, Wordpad, TextPad Linux: Text Editor
Windows: Notepad, Wordpad, Textpad vs. Linux: vi, Emacs, Pico
Instant Messaging Windows: AIM Linux: Gaim Internet Messenger
Windows Live Messenger, AIM, Trillian vs. GAIM
Music Playback: Windows: wmp, Itunes (you tunes we all tunes to Itunes), WinAmp (I don't want Windows louder) Linux: Beep Media Player, Rhythmbox Music Player
Windows Media Player, iTunes, Winamp vs. Beep (it only plays beeps?), Rhythmbox
CD Ripping: Windows: Itunes, wmp Linux: Sound Juicer CD Ripper
iTunes, Windows Media Player vs. Sound Juicer, CDParanoia
CD Burning Windows: Roxio, Nero Linux: Gnome Toaster, Serpentine Audio CD Creator, Nero
Easy CD Creator, Nero Burning Rom vs. Toaster, Serpentine, Nero
Excel and Outlook are still friendlier, more memorable names. You easily remember the spreadsheet app named Excel. You would pick the one named Excel in a list, as opposed to "GNUmeric."
A lot of these horrible OSS app names are from the developers. Programmers have a notoriously stupid sense of humor and often think these things are "cute" and "funny." Just look at the KDE prefix fiasco that refuses to be dealt with.
Do you think a photographer would choose "GIMP" over Photoshop or Aperture? Or would they consider "Krayon" over Picasa or iPhoto? What about "Kexi" over FileMaker and Access? Is "Ubuntu Linux" a good name compared to Windows XP or Mac OS?
It's about professionalism and presentation. Now, if you're going to argue that these are spare-time developers working from their bedrooms who shouldn't have to worry about that, then fine. But don't complain then when nobody takes you seriously and, well, views you as a bedroom effort.
Again, did you watch the video? Steve Jobs may not be a low-level kernel hacker. But he can dev up some apps. In fact, he does it in front of a camera as a demo of the NeXT programming environment, if you'd just watch it.
Having said that, I realize that sometimes, small quirky apps written by "poet coders" can make a platform a lot more interesting, I just doubt that that's what causes innovation or platform acceptance.
And OS X already has those fun, quirky apps anyway. Specifically because of Cocoa (well, and Dashboard too). And the fact that the Mac has an active shareware market you can actually make money in.
Objective-C is a self-documenting language. C++'s function syntax is an abortion of pain. You're just a sissy programmer unwilling to learn something better.
I don't know that MS has made claims for the execution speed of the.NET languages specifically.
Well, they've done public comparisons to Java that showed C# being way faster, which Java devs pointed out was biased in favor of C#, but that's no surprise..NET has lost a lot of steam--even Ballmer admitted that earlier this year. A lot of Vista will still be pure native code, and most of the major Windows apps will always be Win32 because companies aren't going to rewrite their codebases, and also they want to retain compatibility with Apple's Carbon, which behaves similarly to Win32 and therefore provides for easier porting.
Of course, I hear rumors about Apple releasing their Cocoa/Obj-C stuff for Windows. Which would truly rock and would give Windows developers a reason to use those superior APIs. Photoshop could take advantage of things like CoreImage without losing Windows compatibility. But we'll see if that's just a geek fantasy.
Memory management is pseudo-automatic as it is right now, but requires you to do all the retain/release stuff. That said, you can compile with automatic garbage collection enabled. It's not on by default. Presumably, it will come to the forefront in the next major version of Xcode. Automatic garbage collection can be so slow sometimes, and perhaps Apple wants to get it perfected before really pushing it out the door. But they ARE working on adding it.
As an aside, I don't know what this guy is emailing Steve Jobs about. You can code for a Mac in C, C++, Objective-C, Pascal, Java, all the standard UNIX scripting languages, and any other language GCC supports, really. As for making Cocoa "fun," it already is--interface builder is awesome.
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So, someone gave an opinion about KDE, and you responded by:
1.) Sniping at GNOME.
2.) Referencing what Linus Torvalds thinks for some reason, as if it has anything to do with anything (he also thinks Slashdot is a place where people who "don't know what they're talking about get together and have a public wanking session." This is a logical fallacy called appeal to authority.
I will never understand the emotional anti-GNOME hatred on Slashdot. To me, KDE never met a sidebar/button/dialog it didn't like. I like streamlined interfaces.
Perhaps KDE will convince Apple to make the GUI Free Software.
How could anyone possibly think this, and actually post it? Everyone knows this will never happen.
Step number one: Stop condescendingly referring to normal people as "Joe Sixpacks" and "Grandma Sues."
That's really it? New network and audio stacks? "Totally cool new printing system?" I already had this stuff in Mac OS X half a decade ago.
Every new end-user feature in Vista already exists elsewhere. If they're not busy ripping off OS X left and right (even down to the filesystem layout and app names), they're adding new DRM to the OS. Have fun!
For every "flop" you cite, I can name three incredible successes from Ive. One of the things they preach over at Apple is to learn from your mistakes, and quickly.
Actually, most of the things you cite are minor flaws. The Mighty Mouse right-clicks just fine, by the way. I wish every mouse had its scroll ball, as it's the most comfortable scrolling mechanism I've ever used.
Talk about a load of revisionist crap. Apple didn't "steal" squat from Lian-li's hideous cases. Apple pioneered the brushed-aluminum look before Lian-li had anything to do with it. You're just one of those bitter Apple haters who ignores the quality of their products and blindly assumes it's "everything to do with marketing." Well, have fun with your beige PC boxes.
P.S. Don't forget to thank Steve Jobs for making USB the standard connection port after making the iMacs USB-only, thereby forcing hardware manufacturers to embrace the standard. Same with Firewire.
A recent interview with Ive revealed that Apple spent months perfecting the balance of the iMac so that when it was bumped, it would immediately stabilize. It was actually something that held up the product until it was done, because Ive wanted it to be perfect. Competing products will continue to wobble. It's this attention to design and willingness to use research money to solve those kinds of problems that makes the Apple products so good.
Now, if only Jonathan Ive could design products that were as durable as they are beautiful.
Apple does. You can run over a nano with a car and it'll keep running. What you're talking about is external aesthetics which is different. My iBook, though used and scratched on the outside, is incredibly durable and has kept running in harsh conditions.
Apple products ARE durable. You can run over an iPod nano with a car and it'll still work.
Oh, you were talking about external aesthetics like little scratches, which has little to do with durability. Well, I've had my Mac mini since they came out, and it has not a single scratch on it. That's because I don't set shit on the shiny surface--seems like a pretty obvious thing not to do unless you want to scratch it.
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The move was initially reported here on Slashdot yesterday.
Slashdot simply linked to someone ELSE's reporting. I see this all the time, Slashdot claiming it reported on something previously. No, it linked to another person's work.
But that would require a proactive effort! How dare you suggest he go through all the trouble of loading his email client!
1.) Can you cite this claim that record labels monitor P2P traffic to determine budgets? Why would they spend more money to break an album that they see is just getting pirated?
2.) What makes you think labels don't monitor CD club sales?
Merely using the word Darwinism is trolling? Do Slashdot posters these days even know what a troll is? Just because you disagree with someone does not make them a troll.
I'm fairly sure the loudness in movie previews is caused by a tendency in recent years for audio producers to make a sound "louder" by amplifying the audio signal.
You're fairly sure it's louder because they're making it louder?
EE Times is reporting that Microsoft may have chosen a side in the ongoing optical disk war.
The talk of HD-DVD in the X-Box 360 wasn't a hint? How about Microsoft's anti-Bluray press release which was blasted by Dell and others? Maybe Microsoft developing iHD for inclusion in HD-DVD was a clue? How about the fact Microsoft has been publicly supporting HD-DVD for the past year?
Killustrator was a good name?
Oh, and you really blame Adobe for suing someone for making an Illustrator competitor and calling it Killustrator? Talk about unoriginality.
Congratulations on fulfilling the stereotype of the angry, anti-social basement geek with a sense of humor poor enough to think "less" is a good name for a program that does more than "more" or that "GNU Is Not Unix" is a funny acronym.
What's wrong with, I don't know, having a non-"humor" professional name that conveys friendliness and memorability? Apple's Aperture comes to mind.
Internet Explorer, Opera, Mozilla, Firefox vs. Opera, Mozilla, Firefox
Photoshop, Illustrator vs. GIMP (an app to edit photos of gimps?)
Windows Media Player, Media Player Classic vs. Totem, Mplayer, Xine, VLC
WinDVD, Windows Media Player, CyberDVD, Media Player Classic vs. Totem (totem pole?), Xine (how is this pronounced, anyway?), VLC
Windows: Notepad, Wordpad, Textpad vs. Linux: vi, Emacs, Pico
Windows Live Messenger, AIM, Trillian vs. GAIM
Windows Media Player, iTunes, Winamp vs. Beep (it only plays beeps?), Rhythmbox
iTunes, Windows Media Player vs. Sound Juicer, CDParanoia
Easy CD Creator, Nero Burning Rom vs. Toaster, Serpentine, Nero
Excel and Outlook are still friendlier, more memorable names. You easily remember the spreadsheet app named Excel. You would pick the one named Excel in a list, as opposed to "GNUmeric."
A lot of these horrible OSS app names are from the developers. Programmers have a notoriously stupid sense of humor and often think these things are "cute" and "funny." Just look at the KDE prefix fiasco that refuses to be dealt with.
Do you think a photographer would choose "GIMP" over Photoshop or Aperture? Or would they consider "Krayon" over Picasa or iPhoto? What about "Kexi" over FileMaker and Access? Is "Ubuntu Linux" a good name compared to Windows XP or Mac OS?
It's about professionalism and presentation. Now, if you're going to argue that these are spare-time developers working from their bedrooms who shouldn't have to worry about that, then fine. But don't complain then when nobody takes you seriously and, well, views you as a bedroom effort.
Again, did you watch the video? Steve Jobs may not be a low-level kernel hacker. But he can dev up some apps. In fact, he does it in front of a camera as a demo of the NeXT programming environment, if you'd just watch it.
But it would be a lie to say it has nothing to do with the Microsoft Network, since it is connecting to the Microsoft Network...
That's like making aSlashdot.org which grabs and displays Slashdot's stories, then saying the name has nothing to do with Slashdot.
Having said that, I realize that sometimes, small quirky apps written by "poet coders" can make a platform a lot more interesting, I just doubt that that's what causes innovation or platform acceptance.
And OS X already has those fun, quirky apps anyway. Specifically because of Cocoa (well, and Dashboard too). And the fact that the Mac has an active shareware market you can actually make money in.
Objective-C is a self-documenting language. C++'s function syntax is an abortion of pain. You're just a sissy programmer unwilling to learn something better.
I don't know that MS has made claims for the execution speed of the .NET languages specifically.
.NET has lost a lot of steam--even Ballmer admitted that earlier this year. A lot of Vista will still be pure native code, and most of the major Windows apps will always be Win32 because companies aren't going to rewrite their codebases, and also they want to retain compatibility with Apple's Carbon, which behaves similarly to Win32 and therefore provides for easier porting.
Well, they've done public comparisons to Java that showed C# being way faster, which Java devs pointed out was biased in favor of C#, but that's no surprise.
Of course, I hear rumors about Apple releasing their Cocoa/Obj-C stuff for Windows. Which would truly rock and would give Windows developers a reason to use those superior APIs. Photoshop could take advantage of things like CoreImage without losing Windows compatibility. But we'll see if that's just a geek fantasy.
Memory management is pseudo-automatic as it is right now, but requires you to do all the retain/release stuff. That said, you can compile with automatic garbage collection enabled. It's not on by default. Presumably, it will come to the forefront in the next major version of Xcode. Automatic garbage collection can be so slow sometimes, and perhaps Apple wants to get it perfected before really pushing it out the door. But they ARE working on adding it.
As an aside, I don't know what this guy is emailing Steve Jobs about. You can code for a Mac in C, C++, Objective-C, Pascal, Java, all the standard UNIX scripting languages, and any other language GCC supports, really. As for making Cocoa "fun," it already is--interface builder is awesome.