I don't see the confict. Open Source by design enables developers to modify it. If these countries chose Open Source because it allows them to alter it to meet their needs, then they are supporting Open Source in the purest form possible, because it works where centralized proprietary solution hasn't.
The Tao says: the perfect piece of paper is unmarked by pen; the perfect flower is unpruned by shears; the perfect operating system is untouched from its default installation.
Henry Ford said you can have any colour car you want, as long as it's black. Brian Kendig says you can have any compile of kernel you want, as long as it's the one standard make config.
I wonder if those who don't respect the GPL will be attacked by competitors. IP is IP, protected by the GPL or in a more traditional form, and in the current business environment as much a weapon as an expression of innovation. If GPL because deeply ingrained into the economy expect those who don't respect it to be called to the carpet, not because competitors have any love for the license or its ideals, but as a lever against a competitor.
I'm willing to bet a very large percentage of people here care very much about their cars, homes and TV's. It's the same kind of enthusiasm for tech that brings them to Slashdot. Microwaves can be an important choice to the cooking enthusiast. The article's main thrust is that those who do care should be abondandoned for those (the majority) who don't. I think it's wrong.
The road to success for Linux will be the same as it was for Windows: corporations first, then home users. The desktop is now ready for corporate use, the real holdback being apps. Once they arrive (especially games for home), home users will follow. The future of Linux does not rest on the VCR-blinking-12:00 crowd.
Except for the most rudimentary aspects of the core desktop (taskbar, start button and right-click video properties), there's very little in common between the 95 and XP desktops. All the configuration menues have moved or changed. 95 didn't jump you through hoops to print a graphic, My Computer and the other desktop icons are gone by default in XP, 95 didn't use dynamic or hidden menues, didn't default to view the local file system as Web pages, the list goes on and on. IceWm is as close to W95 as XP. Why was this modded up?
I'll go out on a limb here and guess the developers are no longer targeting that level of hardware. Kind of a dead end. But damn, I'm impressed you get acceptable performance out that notebook running KDE. My P2-366/192 spends too much time in swap using Fluxbox.
From what I've read of the latest Linux kernels (for the few decent games available) and Win 2K/XP, it should be possible to bind all network related tasks to a single CPU and leave the other focused on game play. This could be a real advantage to the huge group of online players.
People drive 120 because everyone, police included, know it's safe. Even the most inexpensive cars are incomparably more manueverable, responsive, crash worthy and provide more driver feedback than the typical vehicle available when these limits were set. Revenue generation and moral politics keeps the limit at 100, not science. If you're one of those vehicular moralists who insist on driving 20-30 kph slower than everyone else (usually in the left lane) you are actually the one endangering lives. Differential speeds are far more dangerous than absolute in the range we're talking.
Not only should there be sensors, but cars should have governors. The law *is* the law. If you don't like the law, vote and have your representative *change* the law.
That's one option of many. Another is exactly what's evolved, ignoring the law. You have no more right to demand I obey every law than I have to demand you break them all. Welcome to sloppy, unperfect reality.
BTW, the notion that people must slavishly obey every law is the definition of totalitarianism.
As to "driving at 35 when the limit is 30"... in any case, either of those speeds is too fast on urban UK roads. We have a much higher level of pedestrian (and cyclist) activity than the US, especially in towns.
Very scientific, no mamby-pamby talk of the 85th percentile rule in judging safe road speeds, government manipulation of traffic laws as a revenue stream, really anything other than 'you feel' or IMHO.
Hence, I'm in favour of virtually ANY regulation of motorists.
The very definition of totalitarianism and no better illustration why the proposed legislation is more dangerous than "two tons of steel".
Nice try. It ignores the fact that about 95% of today's Linux users once used DOS and 3.1. Linux wasn't around back then, the other 5% we can grant to Apple and other. We learned to use passwords. That still isn't to say Windows users are stupid, but the argument 'they're not accustomed to security' doesn't wash. Neither were we, and we learned.
And blaming Linux users for the current state of security in MS userland? High comedy or pure BS, but total fabrication either way.
"By design" is a very common English expression which the Post is using correctly in a widely accepted manner. Microsoft made a design decision early on to value convenience and features over security and the results are plainly evident. There is another sense in which 'by design' can mean 'designed specifically to be insecure' which is also widely accepted, but the article's content makes it obvious the first is intended. Security wasn't considered important when Windows was laid out, this was a design decision, Windows is insecure by design.
The car example is misleading expressed and begs the question. Automakers did exactly that, chose features and style over safety and as a result led to the massive body of law regulating everything from dashboard material to bumper height. It's is just as valid to say vehicles were once deadly 'by design'.
Incidentally, using Ford was a very poor choice. If I recall the case correctly, internal documents revealed Ford knew the rear bumper bolts of the Pinto stood a very good chance of puncturing the gas tank in a rear end collision. Their analysis suggested lawsuits from the resulting deaths would cost the company less than correcting the problem. The vehicle was accidentally deadly by design.
Deal. As long as you ignore where I said "distro-specific" (Gentoo is cutting-edge and plays a lot with kernel patches. Vanilla sources are always provided as an option during install) and "third-party". But do you really want to include user-space software such as Word, Outlook + Express, SQL, BackOffice and Server? Those are easy targets which alone have caused more damage than, I'd wager, Unix's entire history. I was cutting MS some slack. And Redmond is to blame for those vulnerabilities, in the same way Linus and the kernel team aren't to blame for netris holes.
I read it. She held a heated paper cup between her knees (an idiotic way to hold a paper, styrofoam or any disposable cup) and compounded it by removing an integral part of its structure, the lid, knowing full well the contents were hot. I drink coffee regularly, I've yet to try opening a cup squeezed between my knees. And squeezed it must have been, unless the claim was it spontaneously collapsed.
She did a careless thing and was awarded damages because McDees hadn't though of every potential way for a customer to avoid crushing a paper cup. I suggest they print safety instructions on the bottom.
Hey OCG, thanks for the great link in your sig. Instant bookmark. In a like spirit of giving, I suggest you look at the actual advisories. They all apply to either third party apps which run on Linux (not Linux vulnerabilities) or distro-specific implementations. For example
This week, advisories were released for openslp, zip, netris, autorespond, unzip, eroaster, and GDM. The distributors include Conectiva, Debian, Mandrake, and Red Hat. . ..
If you want to call these Linux, OK, just make sure to refer to Unreal Tournament, Photoshop and WSFTP as Windows to keep the playing field even. Thx again for the link!
This has been understood and refuted ad nauseum on this forum. SCO has no proof of code ownership, and, in the form of Caldera, also distributed the code under the GPL. One million lines claimed out of four million total, so ignorance is an impossible defense.
You have it backwards. People here understand very well what the lawyer said and the history behind it, which is the reason for the flamethrowers.
If only that were true. The US has powerful treaty agreements with most industrialized nations which bind their action should the American courts decide Linux violates SCO IP, nations which further more have a history of rubber stamping copies of America's laws. Witness the DCMA-type rollouts in the EU. Most of the developers and contributors are citizens of those countries. While you're correct that not every country will follow suit, I'd wager enough will to neutralize Linux as a viable alternative.
Speaking as someone who works in the media, which I'm guessing you don't, it's becoming a joke around here how often we hear stories that first appeared on Slashdot or Fark the day before. Guess what Craptacular, media people actually peruse the internet for interesting stories and Slashdot is the largest tech forum of its type. How ironic you went off on something you know nothing about, just like the stereotypical 'slashbot' you disdain.
As you'd lose every developer, all support competence, all contracts, all evangelists in a single second, what do you think you could do with the ownership several millions of lines of unmaintained code without a single developer and with everyone in the computer industry hating you?
Exactly, which, again, is why I think Microsoft is orchestrating the whole thing and McBride's is playing the Black Pot to an imaginary kettle. SCO loses, SCO is destroyed and Linux/OSS suffers severe setbacks in the corporate environment in the process. (Only Microsoft stands to make sales from the suit, no one is planning to roll out SCO.) SCO wins, Linux is destroyed, SCO still eventually goes out of business and Microsoft loses the one competitor they can't buy.
Ahh, the joys of historical revisionism. KDE started the pastel-cartoon trend, Windows followed. Personally, I prefer the 2k desktop to both by a wide margin.
- Linux desktops have numerous powerful and intuitive file managers - Nautilus, Rox and whatever KDE uses being obvious examples - so the xcopy/file tree justification is an obvious canard meant to convince those who don't know better. - Yes, I'm really envious that in 2004 MS might be rolling out innovations Gkrellm brought to the X desktop when FVWM roamed the earth. Really.
If MS designed cars the dashboard would be a series of idiot lights of a "too fast/too slow" nature and heads-up display for Clippy to ask "You appear to be low on fuel! Would you care to: 1. Fill Up? 2. Drive slower? 3. Park?" It's a world you can keep.
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I don't see the confict. Open Source by design enables developers to modify it. If these countries chose Open Source because it allows them to alter it to meet their needs, then they are supporting Open Source in the purest form possible, because it works where centralized proprietary solution hasn't.
Henry Ford said you can have any colour car you want, as long as it's black. Brian Kendig says you can have any compile of kernel you want, as long as it's the one standard make config.
The proposal is sooooo early twentieth century.
RTFA, the story is that Reuters are now Linux zealots.
I wonder if those who don't respect the GPL will be attacked by competitors. IP is IP, protected by the GPL or in a more traditional form, and in the current business environment as much a weapon as an expression of innovation. If GPL because deeply ingrained into the economy expect those who don't respect it to be called to the carpet, not because competitors have any love for the license or its ideals, but as a lever against a competitor.
The road to success for Linux will be the same as it was for Windows: corporations first, then home users. The desktop is now ready for corporate use, the real holdback being apps. Once they arrive (especially games for home), home users will follow. The future of Linux does not rest on the VCR-blinking-12:00 crowd.
Except for the most rudimentary aspects of the core desktop (taskbar, start button and right-click video properties), there's very little in common between the 95 and XP desktops. All the configuration menues have moved or changed. 95 didn't jump you through hoops to print a graphic, My Computer and the other desktop icons are gone by default in XP, 95 didn't use dynamic or hidden menues, didn't default to view the local file system as Web pages, the list goes on and on. IceWm is as close to W95 as XP. Why was this modded up?
I'll go out on a limb here and guess the developers are no longer targeting that level of hardware. Kind of a dead end. But damn, I'm impressed you get acceptable performance out that notebook running KDE. My P2-366 /192 spends too much time in swap using Fluxbox.
From what I've read of the latest Linux kernels (for the few decent games available) and Win 2K/XP, it should be possible to bind all network related tasks to a single CPU and leave the other focused on game play. This could be a real advantage to the huge group of online players.
Not only should there be sensors, but cars should have governors. The law *is* the law. If you don't like the law, vote and have your representative *change* the law.
That's one option of many. Another is exactly what's evolved, ignoring the law. You have no more right to demand I obey every law than I have to demand you break them all. Welcome to sloppy, unperfect reality.
BTW, the notion that people must slavishly obey every law is the definition of totalitarianism.
Very scientific, no mamby-pamby talk of the 85th percentile rule in judging safe road speeds, government manipulation of traffic laws as a revenue stream, really anything other than 'you feel' or IMHO.
Hence, I'm in favour of virtually ANY regulation of motorists.
The very definition of totalitarianism and no better illustration why the proposed legislation is more dangerous than "two tons of steel".
And blaming Linux users for the current state of security in MS userland? High comedy or pure BS, but total fabrication either way.
Holy shit, you mean you were serious? Take my advice and take the Troll label, you'll look better for it.
The car example is misleading expressed and begs the question. Automakers did exactly that, chose features and style over safety and as a result led to the massive body of law regulating everything from dashboard material to bumper height. It's is just as valid to say vehicles were once deadly 'by design'.
Incidentally, using Ford was a very poor choice. If I recall the case correctly, internal documents revealed Ford knew the rear bumper bolts of the Pinto stood a very good chance of puncturing the gas tank in a rear end collision. Their analysis suggested lawsuits from the resulting deaths would cost the company less than correcting the problem. The vehicle was accidentally deadly by design.
Still a good link.
She did a careless thing and was awarded damages because McDees hadn't though of every potential way for a customer to avoid crushing a paper cup. I suggest they print safety instructions on the bottom.
This week, advisories were released for openslp, zip, netris, autorespond, unzip, eroaster, and GDM. The distributors include Conectiva, Debian, Mandrake, and Red Hat. . . .
If you want to call these Linux, OK, just make sure to refer to Unreal Tournament, Photoshop and WSFTP as Windows to keep the playing field even. Thx again for the link!
Of course not, as part of the Unix lineage it all belongs to SCO. The arrogance of this person is staggering.
You have it backwards. People here understand very well what the lawyer said and the history behind it, which is the reason for the flamethrowers.
If only that were true. The US has powerful treaty agreements with most industrialized nations which bind their action should the American courts decide Linux violates SCO IP, nations which further more have a history of rubber stamping copies of America's laws. Witness the DCMA-type rollouts in the EU. Most of the developers and contributors are citizens of those countries. While you're correct that not every country will follow suit, I'd wager enough will to neutralize Linux as a viable alternative.
Speaking as someone who works in the media, which I'm guessing you don't, it's becoming a joke around here how often we hear stories that first appeared on Slashdot or Fark the day before. Guess what Craptacular, media people actually peruse the internet for interesting stories and Slashdot is the largest tech forum of its type. How ironic you went off on something you know nothing about, just like the stereotypical 'slashbot' you disdain.
Exactly, which, again, is why I think Microsoft is orchestrating the whole thing and McBride's is playing the Black Pot to an imaginary kettle. SCO loses, SCO is destroyed and Linux/OSS suffers severe setbacks in the corporate environment in the process. (Only Microsoft stands to make sales from the suit, no one is planning to roll out SCO.) SCO wins, Linux is destroyed, SCO still eventually goes out of business and Microsoft loses the one competitor they can't buy.
The technical reasons blaringly evident from screenshot mock-ups?
Ahh, the joys of historical revisionism. KDE started the pastel-cartoon trend, Windows followed. Personally, I prefer the 2k desktop to both by a wide margin.
The numbers are already there in the server environment, the juiciest, most rewarding targets available. Still waiting for the deluge.
- Linux desktops have numerous powerful and intuitive file managers - Nautilus, Rox and whatever KDE uses being obvious examples - so the xcopy/file tree justification is an obvious canard meant to convince those who don't know better.
- Yes, I'm really envious that in 2004 MS might be rolling out innovations Gkrellm brought to the X desktop when FVWM roamed the earth. Really.
If MS designed cars the dashboard would be a series of idiot lights of a "too fast/too slow" nature and heads-up display for Clippy to ask "You appear to be low on fuel! Would you care to: 1. Fill Up? 2. Drive slower? 3. Park?" It's a world you can keep.