So no, the primary purpose of guns is not to kill more efficiently. That's a fantasy concocted by people trying to think of the worst possible rationale for something they dislike.
What you're basically saying above is that the primary purpose of guns is to maim more efficiently. That's not really much better you know. It's also massively ignorant, and you're referring to one particular 20th century invention as "all guns".
The purpose of guns is to intimidate - make people fear the consequences of noncompliance with the person holding the gun. That's why sometimes police with guns can defuse a situation without ever firing a shot.
No, that's not why, because often the police can defuse a situation without ever bringing guns into it at all.
Part of the reason the U.S. won the Revolutionary War was because a significant fraction of the milita
The right to be forgotten does not surpass the right of free speech.
There is no natural right to have limited liability protection and the all the other protections that come as part of a corporation.
You as a person still have the right to free speech. If you want to accept the immense extra power and protection that come with a corporate charter, then you have to accept you don't quite have the same rights when operating under that charter.
Most people are aware that a stopped clock is right twice a day. It remains to be seen however how actually worthwhile happens out of this. Which is why there's a note of cautious approval in the thread.
Slashbot heads will explode like 60s scifi robots caught in a contradiction... "must hate Trump... but H1Bs... but must hate Trump... " Ah, this is awesome.
Back when I lived in that great sewer of humanity, the Bay Area, I met quite a few Googledouches at social events. All of them had a really very high opinion of themselves, often to the point of being bores. Snobby, yes. Politically correct, yes. Capitalist dogs, yes. Drug addled, yes. Cultish, yes.
But exactly ZERO of them were anything remotely similar to the "bro" stereotype that's being flogged so damned hard by the Financialist propaganda organs. Look at my posting history, all of it - I'm definitely not a fan or defender of Google. But this charge strikes me as OBVIOUSLY false.
Google is a HUGE company. Once a company gets sufficiently large the culture starts to vary etween divisions and different parts of the company have a very distinct flavour relative to the others.
My wife has worked at one of the big tech firms in Silicon Valley since 1992.
Great, it sounds like that company has a good culture, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
My house has never been burgled, despite it being moderately common in London. Just because it didn't happen to me and I've never seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
~25 years of sexual harassment training, that point becoming narrower and narrower as a definition every year up to this point where the #metoo moment declared that talking is now harassment?
That's the thing really: people like you seem to want absolutely rigid rules so that you can lawyer your way around them with the claim that technically you're not harassing because you're sticking to the absolute letter of the law.
And this is why laws and rules are vague, because it's well known that simply putting in ever more specific rules leads to ever more specific loop holes. Does that majorly such for people who want to edge aronud the rules? Yep, and I'm cool with that.
So yes, "just talking" can be harassment for example if you are incredibly persistent and just. won't. ever. stop.
Here's some free advice for you which you won't take: stop trying to be a rules lawyer and start being a decent human being (or robot for all I care---just be decent).
Googlers cannot make most production changes without committing. Googlers *cannot* commit without code review.
Isn't that how it's supposed to be? I mean, having the master (or production branch) protected and won't accept changes without a code review and ideally passing the unit (and hopefully regression) tests?
If you work in the medical industry, you'll find that things like a commit to master has to be signed in triplicate to comply with FDA regs. That can be pretty mechanical if you have various automatic test plans in place, but it hsa to be auditable because as far as they're concerned if it's not documented, it didn't happen.
Even at a tiny startup you can do that without excessive hassle, but honestly, I'd be wary of going to work somewhere where the master branch of the production repos wasn't protected.
Remember the movie Revenge of the Nerds, it's like if they remade that now in 2018 and reversed the jock/nerd stereotype characters and the nerds are now the out-of-control womanising bully asswipes, and people buy it.
We (nerds) are people too, thankyou ver much.
That means if you give nerds power, some fraction will turn into out-of-control womanising bully asswipes.
Being into computers doesn't make you a good person (or a bad person) in some ethical sense. A random member nerd is just as likely to abuse power when given the chance as any other random member of the population.
Utter nonsense. It's up to journalists to investigate claims and evidence of articles they are working on. It's their fucking job.
Yeah and the claim is "someone has filed a lawsuit alleging X" and it's been (trivially) verified as correct because that information is pulicly available from the gubmint.
What you are effectively saying is that it's irresponsile for reporters to report the existence of lawsuits until they've verified all the claims in the lawsuit themselves or the trial has finished. It would even preclude out of court settlements ecause in that case it would be more or less impossible to verify the allegations.
He wasn't public about his views until Google someone in the clique
Yeah right.
How about we see what James Damore said in his own words. From about 8:35 to he kept on sending it to more and more people ecause the people he was sending it to weren't giving him the response he wanted. Eventually he hit a skeptics list, and they told him it was bad, except he refused to listen to them because it appears he thinks it was their job to teach him. So he sent it to more and more and more people until eventually it blew up.
So yeah your narrative of "he did what they eanted then got fired" is utterly bullshit and contradicted by James Damore himself. I mean sure he claims that too, ut it's dfirectly contradicted by the sequence of events he says happened.
Github is a platform for hosting git repositories. Git is a distribute version control system. Github can't diverge from git because then it would be something-else-hub and not much use.
I found this webpage: http://tom.preston-werner.com/... demystified git a lot. Things started to make much more sense about how they worked and why they broke.
It won't fix the UI problem of random unrelated shite being crammed into one command, poor documentation and submodules and git-lfs being an utter clusterfuck.
So anyway github can't fix git. As a hosting platform it would however be nice if they fixed the kind of hosting platform related stuff like code reviews. They're absolutely awful on github.
Is it something you introduce to small children as a prelude to teaching them to read and write? Seems like a waste of megabytes in/usr/share/fonts to have all those glyphs on your system when you can just give them paper and purple crayon.
They are something for old men to wave their canes at.
When the outed him he was on a business trip to Saudi Arabia where there most definitely can be consequences for being outed. Those camel shaggers could have arrested him, threatened him with prosecution and locked him up in a hell hole until he paid them off.
If it was such a risk putting out such a rumour (he hadn't confirmed it then) then how come back after it was no longer a rumour but a fact confirmed by Thiel himself.
Thiels own actions show your reasoning to be false.
You are aware that America has more gun crimes than any other nation on Earth by a wide margin.
Yep.
You are not aware that if you subtract the 4 cities with the strictest gun laws from the population America has the lowest rate of gun crimes. Regulation doesn't work.
That sounds entirely made up. Stats or it didn't happen.
You mean to say, you aren't even a fucking American
Yes that is entirely correct.
and you are commenting on our internal affairs?
No taxation without representation, right? I lived there and paid my taxes. That more than gives me the right, nay the duty, to hold forth on an internet forum.
I hope they throw you in gitmo for interfering with our affairs, scum.
Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech,
See how there's nothing about citizens anywhere in there? Your attitude makes you a traitor to the consitution. Thankfully many people have sworn to defend it from enemies both foreign and domestic.
Too many bicycles and plants on stairways. I don't think you understand how that sounds to other people.
How does it sound to you? To me he's bumped into all the usual reasons behind why we can't have nice things. There are far, far to many people who don't understand the word "reasonable", and figure that it's OK to raise a pile large enough to require climbing over to get past them.
The freedom for communities to innovate again. To build their own networks.
Repealing NN rules does literally nothing ot fix that.
The freedom to talk about why federal NN rules held back network competition.
You always did have that, but without NN, yur ISP is now able to very much not offer "premium" service to that forum, i.e. they can throttle the crap out of it or block it entirely unless you cough up the cash.
Literally could not get more American. [...] he's going to arm teachers, thereby removing the overwhelming majority of gun-free zones in the US, is fucking amazing
If you define the core of Americanness as mass shootings, then yes, that would literally not be more American. I greatly enjoyed my stay in the US, and while I'm not sure I could define precisely what constitutes "American", I am 100% sure that mass shootings is not it.
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So no, the primary purpose of guns is not to kill more efficiently. That's a fantasy concocted by people trying to think of the worst possible rationale for something they dislike.
What you're basically saying above is that the primary purpose of guns is to maim more efficiently. That's not really much better you know. It's also massively ignorant, and you're referring to one particular 20th century invention as "all guns".
The purpose of guns is to intimidate - make people fear the consequences of noncompliance with the person holding the gun. That's why sometimes police with guns can defuse a situation without ever firing a shot.
No, that's not why, because often the police can defuse a situation without ever bringing guns into it at all.
Part of the reason the U.S. won the Revolutionary War was because a significant fraction of the milita
The other part was the French. And the Spanish.
The right to be forgotten does not surpass the right of free speech.
There is no natural right to have limited liability protection and the all the other protections that come as part of a corporation.
You as a person still have the right to free speech. If you want to accept the immense extra power and protection that come with a corporate charter, then you have to accept you don't quite have the same rights when operating under that charter.
You can still speak freely.
That's the thing with leftists. We have educayshun and know words and shit. Also we know when to stop hitting the exclamation mark key!
It's rare that the very first iteration of a thing to be made really takes off.
Rockets; but definition.
Did you ever try to get a Nokia phone to talk with a PC circa 2000-2005? I did with multiple devices. It SUCKED.
I used Gnokii on Linux back in the day, it worked amazingly well, far better than any of the windows software.
But they got a kick in the pants, and Vulkan got fast(er) tracked. Now it seems like those other APIs are redundant
Vulkan is basically Mantle. When it got standardised, work on mantle stopped.
And here is a perfect example of what has gone wrong with this site...A "Top Editor" who is unable to type a coherent message either:
We've always had people unable to type coherent messages, ever since the beginning. And before that was usenet...
Most people are aware that a stopped clock is right twice a day. It remains to be seen however how actually worthwhile happens out of this. Which is why there's a note of cautious approval in the thread.
Slashbot heads will explode like 60s scifi robots caught in a contradiction ... "must hate Trump ... but H1Bs ... but must hate Trump ... " Ah, this is awesome.
Except that didn't happen.
I didn't realize they even did ssh...
Yes: but you have to sign up so you have somewhere to upload your public key.
Can we grep commit messages of repositories we don't own?
That's kind of the point of DVCSs, of hwich git is one. A checkout is a full clone of the entire repository and its history.
You're too dumb to see this isn't an argument, stopped reading there and won't carry on a conversation
In other words: you made it up.
with someone too lazy/scared to check something which might conflict with their beliefs,
In other words you KNOW you made it up.
even if you weren't a foreigner commenting on US politics.
Oe noes teh evul forrners are using their free speech to point out my bullshit! I can't cope! Heeeeeelpppp!
Get off our internet.
I'll get off yours if you get off mine.
Back when I lived in that great sewer of humanity, the Bay Area, I met quite a few Googledouches at social events. All of them had a really very high opinion of themselves, often to the point of being bores. Snobby, yes. Politically correct, yes. Capitalist dogs, yes. Drug addled, yes. Cultish, yes.
But exactly ZERO of them were anything remotely similar to the "bro" stereotype that's being flogged so damned hard by the Financialist propaganda organs. Look at my posting history, all of it - I'm definitely not a fan or defender of Google. But this charge strikes me as OBVIOUSLY false.
Google is a HUGE company. Once a company gets sufficiently large the culture starts to vary etween divisions and different parts of the company have a very distinct flavour relative to the others.
My wife has worked at one of the big tech firms in Silicon Valley since 1992.
Great, it sounds like that company has a good culture, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
My house has never been burgled, despite it being moderately common in London. Just because it didn't happen to me and I've never seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
~25 years of sexual harassment training, that point becoming narrower and narrower as a definition every year up to this point where the #metoo moment declared that talking is now harassment?
That's the thing really: people like you seem to want absolutely rigid rules so that you can lawyer your way around them with the claim that technically you're not harassing because you're sticking to the absolute letter of the law.
And this is why laws and rules are vague, because it's well known that simply putting in ever more specific rules leads to ever more specific loop holes. Does that majorly such for people who want to edge aronud the rules? Yep, and I'm cool with that.
So yes, "just talking" can be harassment for example if you are incredibly persistent and just. won't. ever. stop.
Here's some free advice for you which you won't take: stop trying to be a rules lawyer and start being a decent human being (or robot for all I care---just be decent).
Googlers cannot make most production changes without committing. Googlers *cannot* commit without code review.
Isn't that how it's supposed to be? I mean, having the master (or production branch) protected and won't accept changes without a code review and ideally passing the unit (and hopefully regression) tests?
If you work in the medical industry, you'll find that things like a commit to master has to be signed in triplicate to comply with FDA regs. That can be pretty mechanical if you have various automatic test plans in place, but it hsa to be auditable because as far as they're concerned if it's not documented, it didn't happen.
Even at a tiny startup you can do that without excessive hassle, but honestly, I'd be wary of going to work somewhere where the master branch of the production repos wasn't protected.
Remember the movie Revenge of the Nerds, it's like if they remade that now in 2018 and reversed the jock/nerd stereotype characters and the nerds are now the out-of-control womanising bully asswipes, and people buy it.
We (nerds) are people too, thankyou ver much.
That means if you give nerds power, some fraction will turn into out-of-control womanising bully asswipes.
Being into computers doesn't make you a good person (or a bad person) in some ethical sense. A random member nerd is just as likely to abuse power when given the chance as any other random member of the population.
Utter nonsense. It's up to journalists to investigate claims and evidence of articles they are working on. It's their fucking job.
Yeah and the claim is "someone has filed a lawsuit alleging X" and it's been (trivially) verified as correct because that information is pulicly available from the gubmint.
What you are effectively saying is that it's irresponsile for reporters to report the existence of lawsuits until they've verified all the claims in the lawsuit themselves or the trial has finished. It would even preclude out of court settlements ecause in that case it would be more or less impossible to verify the allegations.
So yeah no.
He wasn't public about his views until Google someone in the clique
Yeah right.
How about we see what James Damore said in his own words. From about 8:35 to he kept on sending it to more and more people ecause the people he was sending it to weren't giving him the response he wanted. Eventually he hit a skeptics list, and they told him it was bad, except he refused to listen to them because it appears he thinks it was their job to teach him. So he sent it to more and more and more people until eventually it blew up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
So yeah your narrative of "he did what they eanted then got fired" is utterly bullshit and contradicted by James Damore himself. I mean sure he claims that too, ut it's dfirectly contradicted by the sequence of events he says happened.
You are confusing git with github.
Github is a platform for hosting git repositories. Git is a distribute version control system. Github can't diverge from git because then it would be something-else-hub and not much use.
I found this webpage: http://tom.preston-werner.com/... demystified git a lot. Things started to make much more sense about how they worked and why they broke.
It won't fix the UI problem of random unrelated shite being crammed into one command, poor documentation and submodules and git-lfs being an utter clusterfuck.
So anyway github can't fix git. As a hosting platform it would however be nice if they fixed the kind of hosting platform related stuff like code reviews. They're absolutely awful on github.
Is it something you introduce to small children as a prelude to teaching them to read and write? Seems like a waste of megabytes in /usr/share/fonts to have all those glyphs on your system when you can just give them paper and purple crayon.
They are something for old men to wave their canes at.
When the outed him he was on a business trip to Saudi Arabia where there most definitely can be consequences for being outed. Those camel shaggers could have arrested him, threatened him with prosecution and locked him up in a hell hole until he paid them off.
If it was such a risk putting out such a rumour (he hadn't confirmed it then) then how come back after it was no longer a rumour but a fact confirmed by Thiel himself.
Thiels own actions show your reasoning to be false.
You are aware that America has more gun crimes than any other nation on Earth by a wide margin.
Yep.
You are not aware that if you subtract the 4 cities with the strictest gun laws from the population America has the lowest rate of gun crimes. Regulation doesn't work.
That sounds entirely made up. Stats or it didn't happen.
You mean to say, you aren't even a fucking American
Yes that is entirely correct.
and you are commenting on our internal affairs?
No taxation without representation, right? I lived there and paid my taxes. That more than gives me the right, nay the duty, to hold forth on an internet forum.
I hope they throw you in gitmo for interfering with our affairs, scum.
Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech,
See how there's nothing about citizens anywhere in there? Your attitude makes you a traitor to the consitution. Thankfully many people have sworn to defend it from enemies both foreign and domestic.
Too many bicycles and plants on stairways. I don't think you understand how that sounds to other people.
How does it sound to you? To me he's bumped into all the usual reasons behind why we can't have nice things. There are far, far to many people who don't understand the word "reasonable", and figure that it's OK to raise a pile large enough to require climbing over to get past them.
The freedom for communities to innovate again. To build their own networks.
Repealing NN rules does literally nothing ot fix that.
The freedom to talk about why federal NN rules held back network competition.
You always did have that, but without NN, yur ISP is now able to very much not offer "premium" service to that forum, i.e. they can throttle the crap out of it or block it entirely unless you cough up the cash.
Literally could not get more American. [...] he's going to arm teachers, thereby removing the overwhelming majority of gun-free zones in the US, is fucking amazing
If you define the core of Americanness as mass shootings, then yes, that would literally not be more American. I greatly enjoyed my stay in the US, and while I'm not sure I could define precisely what constitutes "American", I am 100% sure that mass shootings is not it.
Westley?