I think you contradict yourself, and make the same mistake as Marx did in Das Kapital:
"Information is not, under any possible definition that can withstand even a most cursory test of logic, an object which can be traded"
"the only things valid for trade are either physical (private property) or labour."
Ideas / Information could be argued to be thoughts, that is "mental" labour, so what is the basic difference between selling the physical labour of chopping wood for an hour and instructing somebody howto better insulate their hose?
"You say machines rely on a chain of trust but so does any method of hand counting ballots (natural human error)."
Maybe I wasnt clear on this, what I ment was that with machines the chain of trust is more subtle. You have to trust that the compiled program actually running is compiled from authentic sourcecode and is not manipulated.
With manual (public) counting, its still a trust part, but if each party can have representation in the counting process, at least I assume that they keep an eye on each other - a sort of self stabilizing situation.
You empty the box on a big table, all representatives sit around the table then start sorting the votes after content.
If you have 300 notes with "party A" and 480 notes with "party B" its easy to do a recount if somebody wouldnt agree with the first count.
If the sum doesnt add up with the number of cast votes for that district, that districtsvote is declared void and that district does a re-election
When everybody is sattisfied, report the result up one level, repeat until ypu have a grand national total.
At least that is how we do it in Sweden, seems to work for us.
I find it somewhat amusing that the country that brags to the world that they are such a great democracy, are having such a hard time to perform something as basic and simple as a vote without the citizens suspecting foul play and cheating all the time...
Isnt it some kind of generel error with a system when the major issue is not what to vote on, but if the voting process wasn't rigged?
Of course its good that the citicens can keep control on the elections, but why not just handle it like most of the rest of the "democratic" world, vote with paper notes, and have a public count for each election-locale where representatives from all parties who wants, can monitor the counting process.
That way there cant be any suspicions of rigged results - everything is public, and nobody can cheat.
Somehow I realy dont see the point in making elections electronic, since all machine-stored results is based on a chain of trust, since that trust doesnt exist, why not stick to paper?
I'm worred that the book's plot holes will be shown up with great clarity - in my opinion it's never adequately explained why it has to be a kid who controls the fleet, rather than Wrackham
Actually it is in the book. I dont have it in front of me, but I re-read it the other week so the quote is aproximate:
Hes teacher explained to him right after the final battle why they needed a kid as commander: A commander knowing he is losing real soldiers get either too carefull or to ruthless. A experienced commander tends to be carefull and think to long. A commander of a huge army tends to think about his personal agenda more than winning the battle.
Not a quote as I said but that was more or less the explanation.
Money is mostley an issue when its missing. In those cases money is most definately a way to happiness, or perhaps a way out of panic and depression at least.
When you are at a level where you have unpaid bills, and collectors contacting you, that could depress anyone.
Once you get economically over a minimum, where you have housing, food and ability to pay your basic costs of living arranged. Further increases in income doesnt scale to happiness in a direct way
And as money increases it becomes more an issue of greed rather than basic happiness in your life.
I have a hard time to see the gain in security by disalowing root but allowing users to login and then sudo.
In the case of three admins, you would end up with three accounts that could be exploited, rather increasing if anything the risk of direct ssh exploits.
Once the bad guy is in, he has all the local exploit possibilities to gain root, so your already in trouble if they get in.
So as long as you do ssh with passwords, disalowing root-login dosent really buy you any security, but it hassels the admins each and every day.
On the other hand, prefered method would be to login with keys and disallow passwords completely whenever possible.
Another problem: If you can't remove wmp, and you dont like the next draconinan click-through license that pops up when you are using windowsupdate, what should you do?
a) refuse the new license and potentially remain with a exploitable wmp
b) accept the license, even if it grants microsoft to inspect your computer for all media files or whatever else DRM thing they come up with, all just because you dont want to be an easy target for exploits.
I work for a regional museum, and we scan tons of images. Since disks are getting cheaper, the scans have gone up, now most imgs are scanned at 5-10MB, those that propably should go into print are scanned at 60-100MB
Yes I have seen choppers in the arctic.Rrussian choppers are transporting tourists to the north-pole, not exactly on a daily basis, but they do some tourist flight each year out of Hatanga.
A friend whent there some four-five years ago.
You can order a 3 day tour with choper for just 10.750 EURO, that seems a bit expensive to me;)
They offer theese tours on: http://www.tour-land.ru/extr/north_p/eng/nort h_p.s html
Problem with OS is not so much that apps are less prone to exploits, its more to do with worm-propagation, its practically harder to infect as linux system, since there is no clear path of entry where bad-apps can expect to be run by a user. Outlook/IE has a large install base, "everybody" knows how to send those progs things that auto-run, so there is a easy way into the target system.
To be real effective in spreading to linux/BSD systems, the hole needs to be in some listening daemon, like mail/dns/ntp.
I was hacked myself some 10 years ago with a dns-exploit, luckily it was by a friend, he just hacked into my system and changed/etc/motd to "looser you could be dead now"
Even then I guess that what really helped him was that my smtp server at the time happily anounced what distro and what CPU I was using.
With windows you generally know all the dependant libs/dlls, with NIX you have to take an educated guess, like designing your worm to be effective against a given release of RedHat running i386, and that either has applied no patches or all patches up to but not including the last one.
As a general I agree that all sites should be available in textmode, but come-on, its a cinema booking site - if your not able to view a graphical UI due to sight impairment, what possible use could you have of a site whose very purpose is to book cinema tickets ??
Not ment as a flame, but is it really an issue - the site doesnt provide anything menaingfull for a sight imapred person.
Well I'm using debian unstable on my laptops and workstations, and have been compiling my kernels with CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=10 for the last half year or so with no problems. when I look in distccmon, I clearly see paralell compiles, also the compile times clearly shows that its much faster than a singlle compile would be.
I never tried compiling KDE / Gnome / X with distcc so I wouldnt know about them.
What I have noticed is that on FreeBsd all the ports seem to fail when compiling with -j > 1
>As far as I know, at least parts of xfree86, KDE >and the kernel turn off distributed compiling >during the build.
You are missinformed.
However kernels cant be compiled with make -j You have to set CONCURRENCY_LEVEL instead. First part of compile only uses one thread, but 90% or so of the kernel-compile will take advantage of distcc
By coincidence I wisited their homepage yesterday, just to see who actually resells SCO nowadays (the list is impessivly short).
(Im in the middle of moving a client away from a SCO solution)
In USA, there where no resellers listed, just corporate HQ, and 2 branchoffices.
In Germany and UK I belive it was 3, Sweden and Finland one, Africa one, middle-east one (Isreael)
I didnt check all of them, but those I did check was not actually involved in SCO anymore, when I called them theyy got slightly embarresed to be connected to SCO, and told me that they recomended me to convert to Solaris or RedHat, depending on workload (wich they offered to help me with). They blamed SCO that they where still listed, they had terminated all connections some 4 month and 8 month agp
That monestary happened to be Monte Cassino, one of the most renown monestaries in the (christian) world.
After the war, England and Germany amongst others (France? not sure) assisted in rebuilding it, but not US. The monks are very specific on that detail if you go visit them.
And regarding the german use of it, the germans deployed around it, not actually in the monestary, but once it was bombarded into rubble, they moved into the ruins, wich prolonged that fight quite a bit. The ruins gave much better shelter than an errected building was.
Install a few strong lamps in the roof, that is motor-aimed.
Add some radio-tracking stuff, that listens for active cell-phones, and controlls the lamps.
As soon as somebody start talking in their phone, a directed (strong!) light beem will shine on them from above, or to be techincal towards the phone, but the end result is the same.
The angry shouts from the crowd, now that they see who to blame will make that person switch of the phone within seconds;)
I think this is much to prefer above legalisation, it like handling animals, make the "right" choise the easy one, and all bad choises unpleasant - As soon as you behave acording to plan, you get the comfort of being left alone and not bothered.
We have speed-triggered traficlights on a lot of places, typically on places with one-lonely light on a 70kmh road. The only differense is that they idle red 4-ways, as soon as somebody comes close, a sensor notices it. After the time legal speed would require, it goes green (unless crossing trafic is in a green of course;). So when you get close to those lights, there is no point in going to fast - you know that will force you to stop, so you just slow down to legal speed;)
I guess all US people would screem for such a "threat to your privacy";)
But at least in here in sweden basically anytime you book a flight you give your ID number (similar to a social security #) Two benefits: 1. Name is just a courtesy, so doesnt really matter for security if somebody get my name wrong. 2. On checkin, it must be _you_ not somebody with a similar name
Of course IDs can be stolen or forged, but that is a problem regardles of how you ID your self.
No need for technology here
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Personally I chill liquids in the sun the same way people have been doing for 2000 years....
Wrap some cloth or paper around the bottle/glass, wet it, when the water evaporates, the liquid is cooled...
The more sun, the more cooling, so its kinda self-stabilising.
In the first picture of part two (http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/war_te am_85.jpg) Look at who is sitting beside the monitor in the background!
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I think you contradict yourself, and make the same mistake as Marx did in Das Kapital:
"Information is not, under any possible definition that can withstand even a most cursory test of logic, an object which can be traded"
"the only things valid for trade are either physical (private property) or labour."
Ideas / Information could be argued to be thoughts, that is "mental" labour, so what is the basic difference between selling the physical labour of chopping wood for an hour and instructing somebody howto better insulate their hose?
"You say machines rely on a chain of trust but so does any method of hand counting ballots (natural human error)."
Maybe I wasnt clear on this, what I ment was that with machines the chain of trust is more subtle. You have to trust that the compiled program actually running is compiled from authentic sourcecode and is not manipulated.
With manual (public) counting, its still a trust part, but if each party can have representation in the counting process, at least I assume that they keep an eye on each other - a sort of self stabilizing situation.
You empty the box on a big table, all representatives sit around the table
then start sorting the votes after content.
If you have 300 notes with "party A" and 480 notes with "party B" its easy to do a recount if somebody wouldnt agree with the first count.
If the sum doesnt add up with the number of cast votes for that district, that districtsvote is declared void and that district does a re-election
When everybody is sattisfied, report the result up one level, repeat until ypu have a grand national total.
At least that is how we do it in Sweden, seems to work for us.
Carma burning time ;)
I find it somewhat amusing that the country that brags to the world that they are such a great democracy, are having such a hard time to perform something as basic and simple as a vote without the citizens suspecting foul play and cheating all the time...
Isnt it some kind of generel error with a system when the major issue is not what to vote on, but if the voting process wasn't rigged?
Of course its good that the citicens can keep control on the elections, but why not just handle it like most of the rest of the "democratic" world, vote with paper notes, and have a public count for each election-locale where representatives from all parties who wants, can monitor the counting process.
That way there cant be any suspicions of rigged results - everything is public, and nobody can cheat.
Somehow I realy dont see the point in making elections electronic, since all machine-stored results is based on a chain of trust, since that trust doesnt exist, why not stick to paper?
I'm worred that the book's plot holes will be shown up with great clarity - in my opinion it's never adequately explained why it has to be a kid who controls the fleet, rather than Wrackham
Actually it is in the book.
I dont have it in front of me, but I re-read it the other week so the quote is aproximate:
Hes teacher explained to him right after the final battle why they needed a kid as commander:
A commander knowing he is losing real soldiers get either too carefull or to ruthless. A experienced commander tends to be carefull and think to long. A commander of a huge army tends to think about his personal agenda more than winning the battle.
Not a quote as I said but that was more or less the explanation.
Money is mostley an issue when its missing. In those cases money is most definately a way to happiness, or perhaps a way out of panic and depression at least.
When you are at a level where you have unpaid bills, and collectors contacting you, that could depress anyone.
Once you get economically over a minimum, where you have housing, food and ability to pay your basic costs of living arranged. Further increases in income doesnt scale to happiness in a direct way
And as money increases it becomes more an issue of greed rather than basic happiness in your life.
I have a hard time to see the gain in security by disalowing root but allowing users to login and then sudo.
In the case of three admins, you would end up with three accounts that could be exploited, rather increasing if anything the risk of direct ssh exploits.
Once the bad guy is in, he has all the local exploit possibilities to gain root, so your already in trouble if they get in.
So as long as you do ssh with passwords, disalowing root-login dosent really buy you any security, but it hassels the admins each and every day.
On the other hand, prefered method would be to login with keys and disallow passwords completely whenever possible.
Another problem:
If you can't remove wmp, and you dont like the next draconinan click-through license that pops up when you are using windowsupdate, what should you do?
a) refuse the new license and potentially remain with a exploitable wmp
b) accept the license, even if it grants microsoft to inspect your computer for all media files or whatever else DRM thing they come up with, all just because you dont want to be an easy target for exploits.
True that you cant get that vs most single external net sites.
But its still non the less very usefull:
scenario1: Download movies from within your providers net at the full speed
scenario2: Download a few movies from the net, maybe at 5-10Mit a piece, and still have plenty of room for other activities.
I work for a regional museum, and we scan tons of images.
Since disks are getting cheaper, the scans have gone up, now most imgs are scanned at 5-10MB, those that propably should go into print are scanned at 60-100MB
We have 8 people working full-time scanning.
Yes we eat a lot of disk without p2p downloads.
Yes I have seen choppers in the arctic.Rrussian choppers are transporting tourists to the north-pole, not exactly on a daily basis, but they do some tourist flight each year out of Hatanga.
;)
t h_p.s html
A friend whent there some four-five years ago.
You can order a 3 day tour with choper for just
10.750 EURO, that seems a bit expensive to me
They offer theese tours on:
http://www.tour-land.ru/extr/north_p/eng/nor
Problem with OS is not so much that apps are less prone to exploits, its more to do with worm-propagation, its practically harder to infect as linux system, since there is no clear path of entry where bad-apps can expect to be run by a user. Outlook/IE has a large install base, "everybody" knows how to send those progs things that auto-run, so there is a easy way into the target system.
/etc/motd to "looser you could be dead now"
To be real effective in spreading to linux/BSD systems, the hole needs to be in some listening daemon, like mail/dns/ntp.
I was hacked myself some 10 years ago with a dns-exploit, luckily it was by a friend, he just hacked into my system and changed
Even then I guess that what really helped him was that my smtp server at the time happily anounced what distro and what CPU I was using.
With windows you generally know all the dependant libs/dlls, with NIX you have to take an educated guess, like designing your worm to be effective against a given release of RedHat running i386, and that either has applied no patches or all patches up to but not including the last one.
I'm afraid I dont quite get this part.
As a general I agree that all sites should be available in textmode, but come-on, its a cinema booking site - if your not able to view a graphical UI due to sight impairment, what possible use could you have of a site whose very purpose is to book cinema tickets ??
Not ment as a flame, but is it really an issue - the site doesnt provide anything menaingfull for a sight imapred person.
Well I'm using debian unstable on my laptops and workstations, and have been compiling my kernels with CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=10 for the last half year or so with no problems.
when I look in distccmon, I clearly see paralell compiles, also the compile times clearly shows that its much faster than a singlle compile would be.
I never tried compiling KDE / Gnome / X with distcc so I wouldnt know about them.
What I have noticed is that on FreeBsd all the ports seem to fail when compiling with -j > 1
>As far as I know, at least parts of xfree86, KDE >and the kernel turn off distributed compiling >during the build.
You are missinformed.
However kernels cant be compiled with make -j
You have to set CONCURRENCY_LEVEL instead.
First part of compile only uses one thread, but 90% or so of the kernel-compile will take advantage of distcc
Actually its the same guy that wrote Turbo-pascal, Delphi and is now chief over the .NET project.
Microsoft hired him away from Borland, so its pretty logical that they share some ideas.
By coincidence I wisited their homepage yesterday, just to see who actually resells SCO nowadays (the list is impessivly short).
(Im in the middle of moving a client away from a SCO solution)
In USA, there where no resellers listed, just corporate HQ, and 2 branchoffices.
In Germany and UK I belive it was 3, Sweden and Finland one, Africa one, middle-east one (Isreael)
I didnt check all of them, but those I did check was not actually involved in SCO anymore, when I called them theyy got slightly embarresed to be connected to SCO, and told me that they recomended me to convert to Solaris or RedHat, depending on workload (wich they offered to help me with). They blamed SCO that they where still listed, they had terminated all connections some 4 month and 8 month agp
That monestary happened to be Monte Cassino, one of the most renown monestaries in the (christian) world.
After the war, England and Germany amongst others (France? not sure) assisted in rebuilding it, but not US. The monks are very specific on that detail if you go visit them.
And regarding the german use of it, the germans deployed around it, not actually in the monestary, but once it was bombarded into rubble, they moved into the ruins, wich prolonged that fight quite a bit. The ruins gave much better shelter than an errected building was.
Well if it wasnt obvious from the way I formed my sentences, Im not english speaking.
I am truly sorry that my poor spelling disturbed you.
If I ever happen to see anything you write in swedish, I will try to look at the content and intent, not pick on grammatical shortcommings.
Install a few strong lamps in the roof, that is motor-aimed.
;)
Add some radio-tracking stuff, that listens for active cell-phones, and controlls the lamps.
As soon as somebody start talking in their phone, a directed (strong!) light beem will shine on them from above, or to be techincal towards the phone, but the end result is the same.
The angry shouts from the crowd, now that they see who to blame will make that person switch of the phone within seconds
I think this is much to prefer above legalisation, it like handling animals, make the "right" choise the easy one, and all bad choises unpleasant - As soon as you behave acording to plan, you get the comfort of being left alone and not bothered.
We have speed-triggered traficlights on a lot of places, typically on places with one-lonely light on a 70kmh road. ;). So when you get close to those lights, there is no point in going to fast - you know that will force you to stop, so you just slow down to legal speed ;)
The only differense is that they idle red 4-ways, as soon as somebody comes close, a sensor notices it. After the time legal speed would require, it goes green (unless crossing trafic is in a green of course
I guess all US people would screem for such a "threat to your privacy" ;)
But at least in here in sweden basically anytime you book a flight you give your ID number (similar to a social security #)
Two benefits:
1. Name is just a courtesy, so doesnt really matter for security if somebody get my name wrong.
2. On checkin, it must be _you_ not somebody with a similar name
Of course IDs can be stolen or forged, but that is a problem regardles of how you ID your self.
Personally I chill liquids in the sun the same way people have been doing for 2000 years....
Wrap some cloth or paper around the bottle/glass, wet it, when the water evaporates, the liquid is cooled...
The more sun, the more cooling, so its kinda self-stabilising.
Now several hours later, you can still download the kernel source from their ftp servers ;)
e s/ SRPMS/
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/scolinux/server/4.0/updat
So when will they actually get it?
nmap -p 25 192.168.13.* | grep Interesting | awk {'system("telnet "$4" 25")'}
ofcourse change net definition to match your setup
In the first picture of part two (http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/war_te am_85.jpg)
Look at who is sitting beside the monitor in the background!