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PeltierBeer
Helstein writes "Finishing a beer in the sun before it gets warm is usually not a problem, but what about those really hot days? Having some hardware lying around there is only one solution to keep the beer cool, that's to make a PeltierBeer."
a beowolf cluster of these!
It works pretty well. I drink my beverages before they get warm.
Jebus, all the time spent building that thing could have been spent drinking...MORE BEER!
See also the jet-powered beer cooler.
Why do I remember that? <sigh>
that their research seems to have missed:
Guinness is supposed to be drunk at room temp not 8-10 Deg C.
<doh>
Linux is Linux, if One need clarify their dist: <Dist>/GNU Linux
bsds are of course just BSD
Remember, a peltier works both ways. Meaning i can keep my beer nice and hot for those cold winter nights!
Carpe meam simiam!
but what about those really hot days?
Solution: drink faster.
Brilliant!
Now what if you had a can of that Bitter Beer shite? Could I somehow use this to make a Peltier cooler for my dog-in-heat Athlon?
Or if you're one of those German folk who likes warm beer. Mmm.
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hmmmmmm...beer
All of the europeans are probably scratching their heads right now wondering why anyone would actually go out of their way to make the beer cooler.
This is a nice excercize if you need some soldering practice, but there's a reason he doesn't post any real data regarding how much colder it kept the beer than without the cooler. It really isn't doing anything.
I'd be surprised if there was even a one degree difference in actual liquid temperature with the thing on than when off.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
I think a setup like this should be mandatory at any professional workstation of all IT staff everywhere. Think of how productivity will increase!
Dude, where's my packet?
his beer gets cold. He spends way too much time thinking instead of drinking.
My wife viewed this and asked why in the world someone would make that. I had to explain that we geeks get a kick out of doing stuff like this, just for the sake of doing it. This particular project would be even cooler (no pun intended) if that cat5 carried some information instead of just power. That way, maybe I could track which friends are drinking all my beer. :)
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Seriously though, great design. And probably no heavier than a decent beer stein.
WHERE'S MY BEER STEIN?!?!?!?
You are not the customer.
Ok, let me get this straight, he's running 12v down a regular ol', totally otherwise normal, completely unmarked, grey piece of unassuming CAT5 cable...
How long until something releases its magic blue smoke?
Blockwars: go play.
"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
This just goes to prove that Sunday nights are verrrrryyyy slow for slashdot...
So this old guy at work who served in Germany in the 60's said that beer is supposed to be warm, and that us puny US american types are the only people who drink it icy cold. I must admit, the beer I've had has been icy cold, and it was pretty good. Am I missing out? Is it warm better?
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Beer is the nectar of the nitwit
He says he wouldn't want to take the cooler to the airport.
Sure he might get hassled a bit, but then he'd have to explain himself.
I mean come on, Sure everyone likes cold beer, but after enough of them, it just doesn't matter anymore.
So the only reason to build this thing, extreme bragging rights, and hassled at the airport? just one more chance and I for one will believe that the customs agents will be quite impressed.
/. Had an article months ago, about a fellow who used a spare Heatsink to create a beer cooler. I know it's out there, i'm just to lazy to go looking.
It's Draught. I think it's nasty but then again what do I know.
-EOM-
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Last year, I discovered a great new way to keep my hardware cool..... Beer cooling! I've patented the idea, and am trying get Intel/AMD interested. Take a look at it in action! Underneith the complex beer cooling system are three 5Amp relays which control my traffic lights. After being left on for more than 5 minutes, they started overheating.... Beer to the rescue!
Overclockers.com featured this idea last November.
He was a Nazi
Warm Guinness? Ick! It's supposed to be ice cold, and that's the way I love it. Okay, maybe you're German... I know a two exchange students that like warm beer -- to the point they'll use a small immersion heater. But warm Guinness? Surely you must be daft!
Granted, Per Øyvind Arnesen is using Guinness Draught in a can, and my supply is current the "rocket widget" bottled version... but as I recall the advice on the side is the same:
- "To really enjoy Guinness Draught, chill for at least 2 hours."
There you have it, straight from the side of the bottle."...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
Have it monitor the level of the liquid in the glass, and have it send a page or IM to your wife to bring you another before you finish the first one.
Now THAT would be truly useful!
I currently have a keg (no I'm not making this up) of root beer in my kitchen.
Sigs are out of style, so I'm not going to use one...oh wait..
Isn't one of those insulated mugs like 99 cents at Walmart?
;)
But that would be too easy
- Adam L. Beberg - The Cosm Project - http://www.mithral.com/
that cold beer on the next hot Christmas morning.
Those double walled mugs with liquid inside, you put them in the freezer, the liquid freezes up and it keeps your drink cold, without diluting the beverage with ice cubes.
...then you are drinking too slowly!
This post is dedicated to all of those
So it runs on 12v. I could plug it in to my cigarette lighter in my car for those late night drives.
This is just what I've been looking for! Because as everyone knows a one that isn't cold, is scarcely a one at all
He could have just gone to the Dollar Store and bought an insulating foam bottle sleeve.
I may be a little confused here but doesn't most technology for cooling cpu's depend on trying to equalize the cpu temperature with the tempurature surrounding the cpu. ie the air around the cpu is cooler than the cpu so a fan is good. I mean a fan only works for cooling down people when the surrounding tempurature is cooler than body tempurature. Once the surrounding temperature is above say 40 degrees a fan actually makes things worse. To make my point extremely clear don't you want to insulate the beer to keep the cold in and this technology circulates air even quicker. Or does it work fine if you keep the fan in the correct direction? Or am I completely full of it?
Imagine a beerowulf cluster of these!
Maybe my understanding of thermodynamics is a bit off, but wouldn't this thing decrease the cold time of the beer? Unless I missed a picture I see no form of coolant on the thing, just a heatsink and a fan. This works great for a computer because it's the processor that is hot (high in heat energy) and the air that is cool (low in heat energy). Since entropy will cause the heat energy to flow from a high concentration to a low concentration, won't having this attached to a cold beer in hot air have the inverse effect, heating the beer more quickly?
The sort that you get in a pub, not the sort that you get in a can or bottle. Most pubs in Ireland serve Guinness either at room temperature or slightly chilled (around 12 C / 53 F).
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Forget all kinds of contraptions. There is this thing called a bar. You go in there, get a Guinness, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, get another, drink it, and eventually run out of money and go back home. That's the way to live a happy life.
Beer is fucking DISGUSTING
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When I first saw this, I thought it was some sort of super-innovative solid-state cooling device that keeps beer cold, however, then I found out that it was just a heatsink and fan...
Sure, the solution that I mentioned would be more than just "spare parts lying around" but that would be innovation. Someone tell me when they make one of those.
The thickness of the base of the glass could affect the ability to cool it. Also charging batteries generate heat.
Google for "peltier" for a while and get enlightened. A peltier device gets cooler on one side in the same proportion that the other side gets hotter. There's you coolant.
i tried beer once while on a vacation in europe. it tasted very bitter and disgusting to me. the same was for wine and champagne (champagne the least), but beer was the worst. now, i have nothing against beer in fact i am sorta sad that there are all these people that love beer (for responsible reasons), yet i seem to have a bad taste for it. for all you beer drinkers enthusiasts out there, is this something that goes away? is it an acquired taste? please comment.
The reader is directed to the following excellent sources of information on
p ://www.marlow.com/faq.htmf aq.htm/ /www.ferrotec-america.com/3refframe.htm
Peltier devices from the manufacturers themselves:
http://www.tellurex.com/resource/txfaq.htm
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http://www.melcor.com/
http://www.melcor.com/handbook.htm
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you ignorant fuck
huh? what is this beer? does it support linux?
You missed the peltier that's between the heatsink and the beer. In case you didn't know, a peltier is a flat plate with a couple of wires coming off it. Put enough power through it and one side of the plate gets really hot, the other really cold. The heatsink is dissipating the heat from the hot side of the peltier, while the cold side is (obviously) cooling the beer.
Laa laa laa, I'm this nice Norwegian friend with his laptop.
::the distinct smell of money^H^H^H^H^Hlaptop catching fire is noticable to all assembled::
Hey, my buddy routed ethernet out his window to the lawn where we're hangin out. Schweeet, I brought my expensive laptop and I want to browse the web...
Here we go, ***CLICK***
He was trying to imply that you might accidentally plug the CAT5 "power-cable" into a laptop or some such which would NOT assume it would be fed 12V @ 11A from an ATX supply (and would attempt to sink the current to prevent signal reflections... OUCH)
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
The reader is directed to the following excellent sources of information on
p ://www.marlow.com/faq.htmf aq.htm/ /www.ferrotec-america.com/3refframe.htm
Peltier devices from the manufacturers themselves:
http://www.tellurex.com/resource/txfaq.htm
htt
http://www.melcor.com/
http://www.melcor.com/handbook.htm
http:
you ignorant fuck
Nice try ... but Guinness is supposed to be served warm!
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you may have heard of it ... it's called a THERMOS.
Vacuums are your friend.
Those 8 batteries only put out 12 volts couldn't those be replaced with a solar panel, then you would not have to worry about changing batteries for every beer.
Clearly, this calls for combining the features of both! First, obtain the "beer bra" and cut a peltier-sized hole in the bottom. Affix the cooler to the surrounding insulator with lots of glorious duct tape. Arrange the backup batteries on the outside of the insulating foam.
And there you have it! The hot side of the cooler and the batteries won't raise the temperature of the beer, and the foam will also help it stay cool. Furthermore, this system could greatly speed the cooling of beer originally at room temperature.
Now if someone would kindly build this device and mail it me, I would be most grateful.
Pleeeeese... you big strong hacker you.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
This is what those portable plug-in coolers/heaters have in them.
Ales in the british tradition are typically served at "cellar" temps -- around 55F-60F. Continental lagers are best a little colder but generally not below 45F. A few belgian styles do better even colder, but never ice cold (38-45F).
If served ice cold, beer tends to lose most of it's flavor and seems thinner. The same is also true to a lesser extent with increasing carbonation. In the case of an american pilsener like bud, you're not missing much if the beer is ice cold. In the case of a fine czech pilsener like Budvar, you'd be missing a lot.
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remember that special place in hell reserved for bad pundits and people who drive slow in the left lane....
you ignorant fuck
Run the outfit from photoelectric cells - more sunlight, more cooling!
For us beer geeks we would just drink beer in the sun faster. UV rays is what skunks beer.
UV interacts with the alpha acids from the hops and creates that "skunky" taste. This is why most beer bottle are brown, it blocks out most of the UV for a period of time.
This page does a a decent job of explaining what happens.
Nonetheless, this is a cool hack. Just drink it fast or leave it in the bottle/can.
Urine.
If you don't believe me you could pee in a beer mug.
Of course you would have to have the necessary nutrition, and the lack of water to make the perfect brew, just golden in color and also thick frothy foam...
yummmm sluurrrp
From this page:
I particularly like the way he wraps the nice warm batteries around the container he's cooling.
Oh, and the metal wire wrapping the series connected batteries to the metal support is a nice touch. When the thin plastic insulation/label around the batteries melts or wears through, all but one of them will be shorted.
my understanding was that you get blue balls from *not* masturbating, or getting laid. I wouldn't know what happens if you go more than 10-12 hours without getting laid, though.
When we wanted cold beer, we sent the newest staffer out to pick up several COLD 6-packs of "productivity enhancers". Works like a charm and I had less bugs when coding as well!
I was in Heidelberg many years ago and just happened to have a "stubbie holder" (beer holder, this one made out of wetsuit material) on me.
Anyway, this German guy at this party asked me (in typical Arnie-type speak):
"What is that around your beer?"
"It's a stubby holder." I said.
"What does it do?" he asked
"Keeps the beer cold mate." I said.
"Why don't you drink it faster?" he said.
"Um, well I, ah...."
That being said...it doesn't matter what temperature Guinness is served at since it is intended for people with few, if any, taste buds. I used to think Guinness was an acquired taste until the people who insisted Guinness was great also tried to introduce me to Marmite!
From the I Love Marmite FAQ in reference to the difference between the UK Marmite and the NZ Marmite: It isn't that NZ Marmite is *NOT* rancid tasting...it's that it is *LESS* rancid tasting! And this from people who *LOVE* it!
And it isn't that I don't like dark, bitter beers either. There's just something seriously wrong with Guinness.
Then a group of rowdy bikers abducted me and used my mouth as a urinal.
Now I *know* Guiness is the most disgusting beverage ever.
Is there a name that goes with this thinking?
But if you think about it, the more solar power you get, the more you'd need this.
God spoke to me
For an avid beer drinker as many /.'ers are I must congratulate the inventor/designer of this genius beer aid. The search for more ways to keep beers cold is always of great importance. Lets keep this design going and hopefully we can invent a Moore's Law for beer cooling :). haha. Well at least for a couple of years, and once we can make this thing portable... electric powered coozies for all!!!
those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -isaac asimov
Beofulf several.
:)
A portable generator might come in handy.
I still prefer liquid nitrogen, though. And my assistant still has almost all of his fingers. So, I'd say it's safe enough.
I have to agree that ales and whatnot are better chilled, but not ice-cold, but there is something to be said for a cold lager on a hot day...
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
This thing couldn't work in a million years.
/. troll of the year.
The thermometer isn't in the beer, it's hooked directly to the copper plate atop the peltier device.
Without a crystal goblet and gobs of thermal goop, he's going to cool his thermometer probe and some air and not much else. Actually, he should just leave the beer in the can. Aluminum has a thermal conductivity of 205 W/m-K, and glass does 0.8 W/m-K. The thinner can* and 250X increase in k will make his project more successful, but still a candidate for
I'd be willing to bet that the metal rails of that "caffetiere" are transmitting more heat to the sides of the glass than the copper plate is taking from the base.
* - say the base of his glass is 4 mm thick, and the can is 0.2 mm thick (it could be less), then the glass will have a thermal conductance of 200 W/K and the can will have a thermal conductance of 1.03e6 W/K.
Time to hit the books.
Re your .sig: Have you found any improvements in the cake recipe? :-) :-)
Good Grief ! Just don't let mkultra learn about this one !
On the other hand, for the more alcoholic-flashback impaired
Yep ! Definite progress for mankind (self-derogatory chauvinism intended) is quite possible here, but the potential for misuse must definitively n ot be ignored !
Immediately when I saw the headline, I did the Pelllllllllll-Tierrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-Beeeeeeeeeeeer in the style of the old Rainer Beer commercial that just showed a mountain but the voice over was some guy saying Rainier Beer as if it were a motorcycle or sports car shifting into higher gear as it came around a mountain curve. I was just in grade school at the time but I still remember that commercial and the Hamm's Beer (Bear) Jingle of the late 1970's.
We always use stubbie holders. Stubbies are single serve glass bottles, somewhat larger than your can-sized serve usually.
RM Williams Oilskin stubbie holder
Axeman's stubbie holder Note unlike the photo, the whole can fits snuggly inside the neoprene (think wetsuit rubber).
In the tropics they take keeping your beer cold seriously:
stubbie holders, sixpack holders, You can even stick whole wine bottles into some of these.
The hard plastic and polystyrene sort. Buy a boat to hold your beer?
By the way, if there's foam in that bra, you're probably getting less than you bargained on. Real women don't need or want padding. Although occasionally I'd bet they'd like hard shielding from octopi disguised as men.
-- it must be true, it's on the internet.
The builder of this device has duped you all with his sexy new toy made of wires and tape. Beware, he is not one of us, for by his own admission he walks in - nay, seeks out - the sun!
@ 7c it's not really warm.. That is what guinness.com recomends.
If you are outside of the USA you get warm beer because the pub owner is to cheap to chill your beer for you. ( me ducks and hides )
"Guinness is good for you."
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the moderators are on crack, that's gotta be it, fucking crackheads
Just don't drink them all in too rapidly one after the another. You may get a really nasty hang over then really hate them. All thinkg in moderation as the say. ( my ass heh heh. )
Guinness a meal unto it's self.
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American "factory beers" flat SUCK.
Friends don't let friends drink Bud, or Coors or....
Guinness a beer you can eat with a fork.
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If the choice was between drinking Guinness and... well, almost anything, really... I think I'd make the same choice.
But a warm one is okay.
However, on a hot day, a cold or cool one really is the way to go.
I guess I've added nothing to the discussion.
La la la.
Holy shit 34 degrees F. I am staying home.
I live in a desert. Today it was mild for a spring like day. 100F. Now I want a 43F degree beer if I can lay my hands on one. If that is "room temp" I am staying right here in the freeking desert and keeping it in the fridge.
The back of my Guinness can says "Chill for at least 3 hours." I always do.
"Guinness is good for you"
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Complex, my foot. It has "privacy policies" and what not, but the temperature is on the first page:
GUINNESS® Draught is best served at 42.8F.
Good stuff tastes good hot or cold. No temperature was marked on my can. -shoves can back under desk-
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53F is not far from 43F, the temperature recommended on their web page. If my room were that cold all the time, I might want to warm my beer. In South Louisiana, cold beer is good.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
I saw that RJ45 connecting up with a CAT5, and before I read the caption, I thought, "wow, he even gave an IP address to his beer."
This sig no verb.
The other day, I read a story about flights between New York and Miami only taking 2.5 hours. The terrorists, who now make that flight take six hours or more, have won. I'm going to cry in my beer now. I've mostly driven since 9/11 and my one or two flighs involved humiliating searches and unbearable delays.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
build a cooler INTO one of those isulated mugs
try drinking beer in australia
drinking a warm beer is really not good for you, and its a good way to get sick after a hard night on the piss
room temprature would be fine for most of you guys in the far northern hemisphere, but when its 40*C here (over 100F) its not going to work
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Why didn't he just use a wireless hub? No cords, no risk of tripping over the cord on your quest to get more beer.
The Guinness brewery whom does have a good reputation for the quality of it's products world wide must think so or it would only sell bottles. So who should we believe? Guinness brewery or you?
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Step 1: The most useless gadget, the PeltierBeer, is invented.
Step 2: One geek says, "Imaging a Beowulf cluster of these...."
Step 3: BOOM!
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit!
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I don't have one, or know who they are. It looks like it has the insulation, uses the naked aluminum can, and realistically give the likely temperature drop per hour - 8 or 10 degrees.
-dB
"It if was easy to do, we'd find someone cheaper than you to do it."
Where on the can does it indicate a "Guinness brewer" in Canada? My Canadian buddies don't praise the brewery and that drink Guinness like I do. Thay being beer NAZI's would know. So are you full of shit or what?
Anyone else remember heat rises and cold falls? The faux cooler is a joke OK.
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The heat transfer coefficient for glass isn't as high as metal. Sure it's proper to drink guiness from glass, but if you want to increase the efficiency, use a metal drinking vessel. Also, use something that is flat bottommed to increase contact area. Better yet, use thermal adhesive to permanently stick a metal drinking vessel to the copper plate... that stuff will lower contact resistance quite a bit.
HAH! Fun-NAY!
The Afrotech Ghetto Hardware Fun site has early, failed experiments in peltier beverage cooling, with dangerous results! He almost had it right in his second experiment though...
This has a nifty looking circuit for battery charging via solar cells. I'm sure there are more.
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http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mwidholm/nanosat/psys.
I'd go on a Vegan diet but the delivery time from Vega is too long. --brownkitty
something to use with that expensive power-over-cat5 switch....
He is living in NORWAY .. from memory the tempertaures during the most parts of the year were cold enough to avoind needing a beer cooler. In fact in winter you might have some troubles getting your beer out of the can in the first place .. short of a small hammer.
.. (Note: I am norwegian..)
Then again no-one has ever accused a norwegian of being unable to get beer from a can =)
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just make the hole bigger.
see subject k stfu kthx bye
solar cells on the outside of the cooling "holster" thing-a-ma-bob dohicky he sets the glass in would probably be a better upgrade.
forget the damn cables, just wire up a collection of solar panels. Presumeably he's just sitting in the sun, and if so, he can have a remote panel collection wired to his cooler. put some thermally transmissive foam on the top of the cooling unit, to touch the most of the bottom of the glass as possible, and he'd have something worth selling.
If people buy those STUPID singing fish plaques, they'd foam at the mouth to buy these.
Fosters is Australian for hangover.
people start trying to cool their computers with this instead of water. Something tells me I'll need to do an awful lot of *hic* "research".... One for the computer and one for me....
Does anyone else find it odd, ironic, and/or disturbing that we're giving beer-drinking advice to a minor?
No you rightfully point out the stupidity of the USA's drug/booze laws. Booze is just a legal drug. Like tabbaco. I say fuck the WCTU and the like and let parents be the judge of what their kids drink.
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COLD Beer is a good thing. WARM beer isnt.
Many have already pointed out that Guiness is supposed to be served warmer than fridge temp. This leads me to a far superior marriage of cooling technology and beer, name to cool your overclocked processor with ice-cold guiness from the fridge. The important trick is of course it can't be a closed system, rather the cold beer comes from the fridge, is opened, poured into a beer funnel which sends the beer past the CPU, where its HEATED to the perfect drinking temperature, and poured into the open mouth of the ever so pleased with himself overclocker. The faster your processor the faster you drink!
As much as I have been warned I have not yet suffered the laxative effect Guinness must be noted for. I have drank 12 or 14 of them in one sitting. I have however had the shits from US "factory beer" like Bud or Miller. Go figure.
Hmmm. I think all this reading about beer has me in the mood for one. Rev Heads into the kitchen to get a nice tall 14.9 fluid ounce can of Guinness. Damm this is good.
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I assumed that the heat capacity of beer was just about that of water (1 calorie/degC/g). So, using Frink, a calculating tool/programming language I've developed, the power needed to lower a lovely 12 floz beverage by a relatively scant 10 degrees F in a minute is given by:
12 floz water (1 calorie/degC/gram) 10 degF/min -> W
Which gives about 137 watts given perfect efficiency! You actually need to divide the left-hand side by the Coefficient of Performance of your Peltier junction which is probably--what--0.4? And then divide by all your other efficiency losses due to imperfect heat transfer and heat input from the environment...which, as the saying goes, "is left as an exercise for the reader."
(You can use the web-based interface to Frink to plug in your own numbers and units like liters or degC, or K, or recalculate the numbers using the heat capacity of ultra-high-ethanol concoctions.)
No wonder that Peltier-junction cooled ice chest I bought many years ago didn't work worth a lick. It kept things cool if you filled it with a big bag of ice. :)
Wonderfully fun experiment, in any case. I'd sure like to see the thermometer placed in the liquid, though.
Make your computer ten thousand times larger--try Frink
Well if you can help me convince my wife to let me have a keg here at the house I would love to have draught Guinness. Bottles are not practical so that leaves us with cans. I do no beer drinking in the local establishmenst as I have an aversion to red necks and the smell of piss. The only imported beers in the local establishments are bottles and are from mexico. A imported draught is out of the question.
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There are niftly little hot plate kind of things to sit on your desk to keep the coffee warm. Why not a commeccial version of this I can sit beside me at work and keep my Pepsi cold. Drinking faster doesn't work here. I need to meter the caffeen intake over the whole graveyard shift to survive. Ever try and find one of those cute cozys to fit a 1 liter bottle?
Profanity - The sign of a small mind trying to express itself.
But seriously; since when was Guiness considered a connoisseur-level beverage? Its just, you know, a mass-produced stout. You get it in the pub. Every pub just about. I like it, but its nothing special. Theres plenty of other stouts out there. [Showing my age] I recall when Guiness was the preserve of old men, eccentrics and pregnant women (it was thought to be vaguely good for you; like Complan). Oddly we all managed to enjoy it without any messing about or investment in faux-irish culture [sorry to sound harsh but I once got asked for a contribution to Noraid on the basis that I was on holiday in New York drinking a pint of Guiness in a hotel bar. The guy didn't seem to understand that saying 'I'm from Birmingham' was my little way of telling him to fuck off and die. He disputed whether it was in the old country or not, before I stormed out. Apochcraphal but true] That only started once the arty adverts started coming out. Obviously clean glasses help, as does a well maintained cellar and piping system. Oh, and reading the instructions that come from the brewery. But this sort of thing should be expected of any publican worth his beer gut.
It's not like we really need beer-coolers here in norway... :p
At 53 I am putting on a sweater and adjusting the thermostat for 68.
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"Always pour into a glass immediatley after opening." Which doing will raise the temp just a bit. But what the hell. A glass isn't handy.
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Screw drinking beer out of Plastic.
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http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/
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Something that fulfills both criteria. Nerds for nerds, Stuff that matters. What matters more than Beer!!!
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Well that may be one way to keep beer cold, but I've seen another one tested in pub in cardiff. A specially designed tap turns the last bit of beer of the pint into ice crystals thus creating an ice cap which floats on top of the beer. This then keeps the remaining beer ice cold all the way down for up to 45 minutes.
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If the thermocouple ran over the cat5, you could have the power supply modulate the power to the peltier, and see what effect that had on the temperature. Full glass = lots of thermal mass = small fluctuations in peltier power don't effect beer temperature. Dangerously low on beer = low thermal mass = power fluctuations effect beer temp (although you'd want to have the smallest detectable fluctuations here...). When the system recognizes that you're running low, it activates the beerbot to come outside and replenish your supply.
And as a sidenote w.r.t. a previous comment on drinking Guinness quickly, I have to agree that Irish Car Bombs are the way to go for that. Tasty....
This violates US patent no. 1937372, held by yours truly, for a electrical sinlge-serving beer cooling device. Expect to hear from my lawyers.
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Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
Always nice to see a good Guiness pour! :)
..since it's lass carbonated than most swill that comes out of American taps; it doesn't foam up and stick in my throat. Of course, I also drop a shot of Jameson's into my pint before i toss it back, but that's just my (sorta masochistic) tastes.
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Solar powered cooling is possible. After all, you can have gas or even kerosene fired fridges ..... the way they work is widely documented. (They're also inhertently CFC free since they use ammonia as the refrigerant; but since the CFCs in a fridge are sealed inside the mechanism, where they can't get anywhere near the ozone layer, I am at a loss to understand why this makes any difference.) So all you would have to do is focus the sun's rays onto the evaporator using a concave mirror or convex lens (you *will* need the optics). No need for PV's, either.
..... no combustion fumes in it if it's an electric fridge obviously, but you'd think that extra heat would be better kept away from the thing
Incidentally, why don't people fit some form of chimney to their kitchen refrigerator? Since it is producing hot air
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Gah, here in the states I rank Boddingtons just a step above Budweiser, it's nearly as tasteless.
A Ruddles on the other hand is a fine ale.
The beer powers it's own coolant system .... it would be like a dream come true.
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If you are out on the town and feeling a bit sluggish, do one (or two or three...) of these and you will be on track to be the life of the party! (Tastes like chocolate milk!!)
That recipe is all wrong!! You don't use 1/2 pint!! Order a full pint, drink about the first 1/4, and then continue with the other ingredients. Thats how a car bomb should be done.
and Chug when it starts warming!! Beer wasn't meant to be half-assed bird-sipped (that goes for *goog* beer too!) Enjoy it while at its best temp. then finish 'er off so you can have another!!!
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"COMING SOON - Kerosene fuelled afterburner/sausage sizzler!"
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I thought Guiness should be drunk at room temperature, not cooled.
Personally I chill liquids in the sun the same way people have been doing for 2000 years....
Wrap some cloth or paper around the bottle/glass, wet it, when the water evaporates, the liquid is cooled...
The more sun, the more cooling, so its kinda self-stabilising.
Actually, all glass (tinted or not) absorbs UV. The tinting usually is to keep visible or near-visible light out (at the expense of turning it into heat).
This is also why you don't want a UV coating on glasses that have actual glass lenses.
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free as in Peltier?
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A widget it has got... and so on...
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http://www.cafemaison.com/termos-nissan-pilsner-be er-glass-holder.html
Still geeky, probably way cheaper.
I developed Peltier microprocessor coolers for internal use at Integrated Device Technology in 1994, and with some leftover pieces, I put together a soda cooler (can't have beer at work). Recognizing the thermal-transfer problem, I milled a block of aluminum to be a snug fit in the bottom of a soda can. This block went on the cold side of the Peltier device to create the cold plate. The hot side was attached to one end of a very hefty heat sink; the other end got a fan to pull air through the sink. The Peltier device was powered by a bench DC power supply. Its maximum power-input rating was about 85W, as I recall.
:-) The commercial versions of this idea, such as the one mentioned elsewhere in this thread and any number of picnic coolers based on Peltier devices, use the circulating-air approach and work just fine to keep cold things cold.
The cold plate would certainly get cold-- it would pull frost from the air, in fact-- but it would NOT provide useful cooling for the soda. I decided that what I actually needed was to replace the cold plate with another heat sink and use that to cool air recirculating around the can.
Having solved the problem, in theory, I stopped working on the project.
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Refrigeration was invented by a German (Carl von Linde), for a German Brewery (Spaten), to chill German beer.
Just because it works, doesn't mean it isn't broken.
I like the idea of a shocking jacket for men or women, but I'd hate to be a mugging victim, hit over the head with a wooden bat, unconscious and then electrocute the paramedic trying to help me...
I heard that in those countries that expect women to cover up so they can't be seen, that men make up for that by using "feel". I always thought a nice fiberglass butt and chest would be very amusing in such situations, and possibly not as offensive as electrocution. Hmm, electrocuting fellow bus or train passengers that get too close? That would be one way of stopping them from sneezing on you maybe.
And I wonder what it would do to dirty old men with pace makers? Possibly more permanent effect than they deserve?
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As a fellow beer geek, I must say that beer should be served as close as possible at the temperature that the drinker prefers. It's kind like that old thing about serving white wine with fish and white meat, and red wine with red meats. One should serve whatever wine the diner prefers and I tend to avoid white wines because regardless of what I'm eating, I usually prefer reds. Same with beer... I like for it to be enjoyable at room temp (most US beer is not), but i prefer it all damn cold.
Btw, most US pilsners like bud, if not ice cold, are roach piss. One could make the case that most, when served ice cold, are ice cold roach piss. There are a few notable exceptions (I'm having one of those now) but that is the way it is here. Oh, and nowadays most US beers are "light", which is watered-down roach piss. It won't be fit to drink no matter how cold it's you get it.
Just drink the beer faster and you'd have no worries about cold beer.
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Sorry - we are in complete agreement then. Have one on me.
Ahhh.... There's just no substitute for a g00d b33r. Thanx!
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