"...but I believe in cases were trade secrets are required to come out for the purposes of having a fair trial the Judge can have that evidence sealed so that it doesn't become part of the public record."
Thing is, since this involves a third party, in the form of Linus Torvalds et al., might they be entitled to the infringing code, so that they can confirm origins and need for removal? If so, it would be extremely easy for us to determine what the infringing code is, since all we'd have to do is compare an allegedly infringing kernel with a 'clean' kernel, note the changes that are voluntary improvements, and look at the rest...
"Each side has spent bucketloads of money and all the judge could come up with so far is 'Shit or get off the pot.'"
In all likelihood, the lawyers that IBM uses are on retainer, and this hasn't really cost IBM much for legal fees. Thing is, this smear campaign has been damaging enough that once this is all said and done, IBM will be able to add libel and slander to it's complaints against Darl and his other brother Darl. All that they'd have to supply is proof of lost business or delayed business from people cancelling orders citing the SCO fiasco, and even if they're just delayed orders, IBM is a large enough company that months of inflation alone might be enough to show lost revenue.
The bitchslapping of Caldera is something that I'm looking forward to.
"This is why ultimately software patents are invalid. Software being based upon math and logic, and math and logic being created by God, algorithms just exist to be discovered, not created (and therefore patentable)!!!"
I'm an Athiest you insensitive clod!
On a more serious note, removing all religious references, this can be stated as a function of the universe. That removed all religious tones but still has the same permanence.
"I think McBride is failing to see that nobody has to incorporate GPL'd code into their creation. If you don't want to use the GPL on your code, then don't use code covered by the GPL already. It makes perfect sense to the rest of us, but he seems to have some kind of ego thing going on where he thinks that SCO should be free to rip off everybody else without giving anything in return. That seems to be his entire argument, albeit in more verbose language."
It's dog logic. "What's mine is mine. What's yours is mine. What I see is mine." If you look at Caldera's history, it morphed from being a GPL-friendly company under one set of administrators to an IP lawfirm. I wonder if former officers of Caldera, from the 'Time Before SCO' era could be called to testify about their company's doings under their administration, and how they felt that the GPL was to be considered true and respected. This would demonstrate the about-face that the company did, and how it accepted the GPL initially, and later rejected it when it wasn't convenient. If this is documented in court, it would be legal establishing of the situation that would let Linus et al. sue Caldera for contract and copyright infringement.
I definitely agree with your assessment of the RIAA's dropping the ball.
If they had been smart, they would have flooded the filesharing networks with lower quality versions of the songs. This way, if people want the real thing, they'd have had to go buy it. Even as lossy as 128bit Fraunhauffer is, it's still more than adequate for most peoples' computer speakers. If they'd put 48bit mp3s out there, in such mass to make it difficult to find decent quality mp3s, then they'd have given people much more reason to use mp3s like shareware. People could still listen to a tune to see if they like it, and if so, buy it on CD. For that to work, the mp3s need to sound worse than radio quality though, and CDs need to be cheaper, which is an argument for another time anyway.
If an actual file synchronizing/sharing utility were to grow out of this, it would really mess with the RIAA's attempts to punish filesharers. All that would have to happen for a physical level for added security would be MAC address and SSID spoofer, so that the real hardware addresses aren't recorded. Even if the RIAA were to attempt to set up monitoring machines in busy areas, it wouldn't be very effective if the information was spoofed.
Disclaimer: I don't think that artists should be ripped off. This is why I'm against the RIAA.
"Personally I think MS is simply trying to quicken the demise of FAT so they can drop it quicker. About time, too -- there's simply no need for it anymore."
I respectfully disagree. OSX, OS9, Linux, BSD, and almost any other OS that you can think of can read and write FAT. Any device that is to be cross-platform compatible with read/write works very well with FAT. The only other filesystem that I know of that these all read and write is ISO9660, which last time I checked didn't include long filename support without Microsoft Joliet extensions or some other after-spec hack anyway.
Microsoft isn't going to support a filesystem that makes it easier to use devices on a competitor's platform, plain and simple. OS implementers have had to reverse engineer Microsoft's ways of doing things for a long time, and if Microsoft is allowed to litigate FAT out of use, they'll use it to try to force everyone else out.
"IIRC the load balancing for Windows Update is carried out bu linux machines..."
I would be very surprised if this were the case. I'd peg them to use BSD long before they'd touch anything that clearly GPL, and I'd not even expect BSD unless they were continuing their standard, "Embrace, Extend, Expand" approach.
If they ever did actually use Linux for such a critical function and it leaked out, even if it were compromised, it would be like they came out directly to say that Linux is better for enterprise grade security than their own OS is. They couldn't risk that even if the machines went down daily.
I had a pager from Airtouch originally. Airtouch was absorbed into the Verizon monstrosity. A few months ago, the pager broke. When my yearly renewal came up (paying for service a year at a time) I tried to get them to switch the phone number, which was really spiffy, over to a cell phone, and they wouldn't. They wouldn't even entertain the possibility. Now, I know that it means reassigning what T-1 it comes in on, but c'mon people! This isn't exactly rocket science...
> > Why does it need to have multiple computers networked?
> Redundancy in case of failure. You see, they'll be running Windows.
Ah.
Wait, but if all of the computers are running at the same time, wouldn't you multiply the odds that at least one of the computers would fail? If there's a 5% chance that one computer will fail, would that make there a 30% chance that one of six would fail?
I hope it's not an n + 1 type of redundancy, else the driver is just screwed...
Why does it need to have multiple computers networked? Doesn't this add latency that could be very dangerous at high speed? Wouldn't one computer, rather than several, with the proper sensory and control hardware be a better choice? Will I only use question marks to end sentences in this post?
"Also, I heard or read somewhere recently that Microsoft, SCO, the Government and an undisclosed Alien race have formed partnership that has recently bought a company that has filed patents for the process of making metal sheets out of lead,aluminum or tin, if you need any more evidence of the conspiracy."
woah. I can just imagine the lawsuit:
Ford Motor Company, Inc., General Motors Inc., Daimler Chrysler AG, Toyota Motors, Hitachi Products Company, Honda of America, Inc., Nissan America, and BMW Sales America versus Microsoft Inc., Caldera Systems, The Canopy Group, the Government of the United States of America, and unknown parties.
I certainly won't click on that link. What's there to prove that it really is a robots.txt file? I mean, it could be ASCII "art" of the life and times of the rest of that website...
That's Tin Foil you fool! Aluminium won't do any good against Alien Mind Control rays, Microsoft Mind Control Rays(tm), Government Mind Control Rays, or the like. You must use tin!
I decided that I'd sort my stuff by room. this works effectively with a two bedroom apartment or larger. Basically, all of the computer stuff not necessary for the entertainment center is in the second bedroom. The living room/dining room/kitchen area is predominately off-limits to computer stuff. I have a wireless access point for use with the occasional laptop, which is the only thing that I'll bring into the living room. Some toys are kept in the closet in the bedroom, some are kept in the computer room, depending on application.
The dining room is where I keep my drumset, and the kitchen is pretty much just kitchen stuff. The entertainment center at my place is a bit strange, since it's a doored server cabinet with the AV gear and the computer for multimedia applications (rackmounted). Since there's a door on it, it tends to not spill out into the room too bad most of the time.
The computer room is a perpetual mess, but that's okay, since I can shut it off from the rest of the apartment, and my geeky friends don't care that they have to move a stack of motherboards in order to sit down. It doesn't spread out of there much though.
Well, if you have a certain number of free calls with the associated service, use 'em. If the system is hardlocked into the FBI, it won't work, and you'll know. Once you know, start having fun. Play Ranchero music, or Polka, or something obnoxious.
Thing is, it might be fun to mess with people who are attempting to use such a system against you. Record the audio from movies where people are conspiring, and play it back when the car is driving. Shield the GPS receiver so that it doesn't receive properly, stuff like that.
Or, just learn how to be relatively self-sufficient on the road, so that they have a much harder time using things against you...
I used to have a 7MB taglines database, which was quite an accomplishment for someone who only had 4.77MHz of processor power and a 30MB hard disk. A large number of them were NO CARRIER jokes.
Ah, the days of Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader, FrontDoor, and Fidonet...
Slashdot Mirror
"I wonder what they (the SCO) is going to do? I'm interested to see the what the new rabbit looks like when they pull it out of the hat."
Well, it'll probably be brown, and smelly, and mushy...
Just like everything else that they've pulled out of their as^H^Hhat.
"...but I believe in cases were trade secrets are required to come out for the purposes of having a fair trial the Judge can have that evidence sealed so that it doesn't become part of the public record."
Thing is, since this involves a third party, in the form of Linus Torvalds et al., might they be entitled to the infringing code, so that they can confirm origins and need for removal? If so, it would be extremely easy for us to determine what the infringing code is, since all we'd have to do is compare an allegedly infringing kernel with a 'clean' kernel, note the changes that are voluntary improvements, and look at the rest...
"Each side has spent bucketloads of money and all the judge could come up with so far is 'Shit or get off the pot.'"
In all likelihood, the lawyers that IBM uses are on retainer, and this hasn't really cost IBM much for legal fees. Thing is, this smear campaign has been damaging enough that once this is all said and done, IBM will be able to add libel and slander to it's complaints against Darl and his other brother Darl. All that they'd have to supply is proof of lost business or delayed business from people cancelling orders citing the SCO fiasco, and even if they're just delayed orders, IBM is a large enough company that months of inflation alone might be enough to show lost revenue.
The bitchslapping of Caldera is something that I'm looking forward to.
"My license plate reads SOLARIS - I am a die-hard Stanislav Lem's fan."
My license plate reads CORDOBA. I must be a die-hard Ricardo Montalban fan...
Chicks dig the fine Corinthian Leather.
"This is why ultimately software patents are invalid. Software being based upon math and logic, and math and logic being created by God, algorithms just exist to be discovered, not created (and therefore patentable)!!!"
I'm an Athiest you insensitive clod!
On a more serious note, removing all religious references, this can be stated as a function of the universe. That removed all religious tones but still has the same permanence.
"I think McBride is failing to see that nobody has to incorporate GPL'd code into their creation. If you don't want to use the GPL on your code, then don't use code covered by the GPL already. It makes perfect sense to the rest of us, but he seems to have some kind of ego thing going on where he thinks that SCO should be free to rip off everybody else without giving anything in return. That seems to be his entire argument, albeit in more verbose language."
It's dog logic. "What's mine is mine. What's yours is mine. What I see is mine." If you look at Caldera's history, it morphed from being a GPL-friendly company under one set of administrators to an IP lawfirm. I wonder if former officers of Caldera, from the 'Time Before SCO' era could be called to testify about their company's doings under their administration, and how they felt that the GPL was to be considered true and respected. This would demonstrate the about-face that the company did, and how it accepted the GPL initially, and later rejected it when it wasn't convenient. If this is documented in court, it would be legal establishing of the situation that would let Linus et al. sue Caldera for contract and copyright infringement.
I definitely agree with your assessment of the RIAA's dropping the ball.
If they had been smart, they would have flooded the filesharing networks with lower quality versions of the songs. This way, if people want the real thing, they'd have had to go buy it. Even as lossy as 128bit Fraunhauffer is, it's still more than adequate for most peoples' computer speakers. If they'd put 48bit mp3s out there, in such mass to make it difficult to find decent quality mp3s, then they'd have given people much more reason to use mp3s like shareware. People could still listen to a tune to see if they like it, and if so, buy it on CD. For that to work, the mp3s need to sound worse than radio quality though, and CDs need to be cheaper, which is an argument for another time anyway.
If an actual file synchronizing/sharing utility were to grow out of this, it would really mess with the RIAA's attempts to punish filesharers. All that would have to happen for a physical level for added security would be MAC address and SSID spoofer, so that the real hardware addresses aren't recorded. Even if the RIAA were to attempt to set up monitoring machines in busy areas, it wouldn't be very effective if the information was spoofed.
Disclaimer: I don't think that artists should be ripped off. This is why I'm against the RIAA.
"Personally I think MS is simply trying to quicken the demise of FAT so they can drop it quicker. About time, too -- there's simply no need for it anymore."
I respectfully disagree. OSX, OS9, Linux, BSD, and almost any other OS that you can think of can read and write FAT. Any device that is to be cross-platform compatible with read/write works very well with FAT. The only other filesystem that I know of that these all read and write is ISO9660, which last time I checked didn't include long filename support without Microsoft Joliet extensions or some other after-spec hack anyway.
Microsoft isn't going to support a filesystem that makes it easier to use devices on a competitor's platform, plain and simple. OS implementers have had to reverse engineer Microsoft's ways of doing things for a long time, and if Microsoft is allowed to litigate FAT out of use, they'll use it to try to force everyone else out.
"IIRC the load balancing for Windows Update is carried out bu linux machines..."
I would be very surprised if this were the case. I'd peg them to use BSD long before they'd touch anything that clearly GPL, and I'd not even expect BSD unless they were continuing their standard, "Embrace, Extend, Expand" approach.
If they ever did actually use Linux for such a critical function and it leaked out, even if it were compromised, it would be like they came out directly to say that Linux is better for enterprise grade security than their own OS is. They couldn't risk that even if the machines went down daily.
"How come we never hear about breakins [at windowsupdate.microsoft.com]..."
Because we wouldn't have time for all of the other news.
I had a pager from Airtouch originally. Airtouch was absorbed into the Verizon monstrosity. A few months ago, the pager broke. When my yearly renewal came up (paying for service a year at a time) I tried to get them to switch the phone number, which was really spiffy, over to a cell phone, and they wouldn't. They wouldn't even entertain the possibility. Now, I know that it means reassigning what T-1 it comes in on, but c'mon people! This isn't exactly rocket science...
I see in your future....a career...as a cheesy serial radio announcer...
At least you see something in my future that could be called a career...
> > Why does it need to have multiple computers networked?
> Redundancy in case of failure. You see, they'll be running Windows.
Ah.
Wait, but if all of the computers are running at the same time, wouldn't you multiply the odds that at least one of the computers would fail? If there's a 5% chance that one computer will fail, would that make there a 30% chance that one of six would fail?
I hope it's not an n + 1 type of redundancy, else the driver is just screwed...
Why does it need to have multiple computers networked? Doesn't this add latency that could be very dangerous at high speed? Wouldn't one computer, rather than several, with the proper sensory and control hardware be a better choice? Will I only use question marks to end sentences in this post?
"The thing is, it's too late for them to back down. IBM is not going to settle and is not going to drop its counterclaims no matter what SCO does."
There are conceivable things that SCO could do in order to get IBM to drop it's claims, but that stuff isn't legal in Utah, only in Nevada...
"Also, I heard or read somewhere recently that Microsoft, SCO, the Government and an undisclosed Alien race have formed partnership that has recently bought a company that has filed patents for the process of making metal sheets out of lead,aluminum or tin, if you need any more evidence of the conspiracy."
woah. I can just imagine the lawsuit:
Ford Motor Company, Inc., General Motors Inc., Daimler Chrysler AG, Toyota Motors, Hitachi Products Company, Honda of America, Inc., Nissan America, and BMW Sales America versus Microsoft Inc., Caldera Systems, The Canopy Group, the Government of the United States of America, and unknown parties.
I certainly won't click on that link. What's there to prove that it really is a robots.txt file? I mean, it could be ASCII "art" of the life and times of the rest of that website...
"*moderates +5 aluminium hat*"
That's Tin Foil you fool! Aluminium won't do any good against Alien Mind Control rays, Microsoft Mind Control Rays(tm), Government Mind Control Rays, or the like. You must use tin!
Thanks, you owe me a new monitor. I don't think that the hot chocolate that I was drinking will come out of this one...
*laugh*
I decided that I'd sort my stuff by room. this works effectively with a two bedroom apartment or larger. Basically, all of the computer stuff not necessary for the entertainment center is in the second bedroom. The living room/dining room/kitchen area is predominately off-limits to computer stuff. I have a wireless access point for use with the occasional laptop, which is the only thing that I'll bring into the living room. Some toys are kept in the closet in the bedroom, some are kept in the computer room, depending on application.
The dining room is where I keep my drumset, and the kitchen is pretty much just kitchen stuff. The entertainment center at my place is a bit strange, since it's a doored server cabinet with the AV gear and the computer for multimedia applications (rackmounted). Since there's a door on it, it tends to not spill out into the room too bad most of the time.
The computer room is a perpetual mess, but that's okay, since I can shut it off from the rest of the apartment, and my geeky friends don't care that they have to move a stack of motherboards in order to sit down. It doesn't spread out of there much though.
That kind of reminds me of an older article, Microsoft Free Fridays...
Well, if you have a certain number of free calls with the associated service, use 'em. If the system is hardlocked into the FBI, it won't work, and you'll know. Once you know, start having fun. Play Ranchero music, or Polka, or something obnoxious.
Thing is, it might be fun to mess with people who are attempting to use such a system against you. Record the audio from movies where people are conspiring, and play it back when the car is driving. Shield the GPS receiver so that it doesn't receive properly, stuff like that.
Or, just learn how to be relatively self-sufficient on the road, so that they have a much harder time using things against you...
But where will those naval aviators land?
I used to have a 7MB taglines database, which was quite an accomplishment for someone who only had 4.77MHz of processor power and a 30MB hard disk. A large number of them were NO CARRIER jokes.
Ah, the days of Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader, FrontDoor, and Fidonet...