a thing to remember is that if someone can prevent a spammer from communicating based on identity (or lack thereof), you can be silenced as well.
This doesn't keep a spammer from communicating. That isn't the goal. The goal is to keep spammers from forging other peoples domains in their spam. If they are willing to say "I'm sending this", it won't stop them. If they say "Example.com is sending this" and example.com isn't really involved, then there isn't any censorship involved - but anyone receiving the message can easily see that the sender is lying and dump the mail unread.
This is why I have put my efforts into sender-pay systems
That would explain why you are spreading nonsense about "censorship".
Go back to cussing me out while posting as AC. It looks better on you than telling me about how you "turned off your karma bonus" and other nonsense. You and I both know what happened.
You wrote that the DMA has a rule against calling cell phones, but that it isn't illegal. You're wrong. The DMA wouldn't give a shit. The feds have made it illegal to do so if you're using an autodialer or recoreded message. Very few telemarketers dial manually, so practially all telemarketing calls to cell phones are illegal.
The TCPA (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html) says (cut-n-pasted to cut out nonrelated stuff)....
It shall be unlawful for any person within the United States - to make any call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with the prior express consent of the called party) using any automatic telephone dialing system or an artificial or prerecorded voice - to any telephone number assigned to a paging service, cellular telephone service, specialized mobile radio service, or other radio common carrier service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call;
Personally, I hate the government mandate. Everyone of us will have to pay $1.10 a month because some babies couldn't be bothered to inform people that their number changed.
My Cingular bill doesn't show any such fee. I can't see a downside from where I'm sitting. The only people I see whining about it are people who are under contract and can't cheaply move for a long time, and idiots like you who pay Sprint extra money to stay with them. You could, of course, move, but you'll just keep calling the rest of us babies while you continue to pay extra.
Because he's had a cell phone for six months and can't move his phone for another 1.5 years. Since it doesn't help him, he claims it sucks that everyone else has that option.
I've been using Cingular for about 3.5 years. I'm no longer under contract. Cingular has done fairly well by me. It's been very rare that I haven't been able to make my calls or whatever. The failure rate is low enough that I feel that moving to another company is more likely to cause problems than it is to fix them.
But I am looking around due to number portability. A lot of people have my number, and I don't want to change it. And I've got a very old phone. I'd like to get a new camera-phone so that I can take (fairly low quality) pictures whenever I want. My phone is always there, and I'd find that convenient.
My plan is to shop around and find a deal that gives me the same essential service I have now for about the same price, and that will give me a camera-phone when I lock into their 2 year agreement. Then, when I have a deal that sounds reasonable, if it's from anyone except Cingular, I plan to contact Cingular and ask if they'll give me a similar deal.
They've been good to me so far, and if they'll give me a deal on a camera phone, I'll sign up for 2 more years. If they won't, I'll probably take my chances with someone else.
Regardless, I probably won't move for a month or two. Number portability is new, and I'm sure they are getting beat up with requests. As time passes, the demand for "move me now" will let up, and they'll have a better handle on how to move people when it's requested. So I'll wait a bit longer, and keep watching the ads and checking on the web. In January or so, I'll probably make a change. If things work out, I hope to stay with Cingular.
Your post, as well as the off-topic long stupid quote that you replied to, should have been modified as "Troll". It's sad to see crap like yours modded up.
Your post is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read on slashdot.
Spamhaus didn't open an attachment and get infected. Idiots like you opened the attachment and got infected. And that attachment launches DDoS attacks (amoung other things) which are directed at Spamhaus.
Seriously, I dislike spammers as much as the next guy
Seriously, I doubt that.
but immediately saying this is the work of a spammer is stretching it just a bit. For all we know the person behind the worm has nothing to do with spam.
You obviously are not well informed on the subject. This isn't the first time they've used viruses to help launch DDoS attacks on anti-spam sites. Occam's Razor would suggest that the reason they are working so hard to try and take down those sites is because anti-spam sites keep the slimeballs from making as much money.
But your "the worm has nothing to do with spam" argument (with not so much as a hint of a reason) is so compelling, I'll ignore the evidence and just believe that spammers aren't slimey enough to write worms.
You are defending some of the most dishonest people on the planet, despite all evidence against them.
If they'll stop forging my domain in their spam, I won't be nearly as angry with them.
The 400-500 spams a day are a pain - but I can handle them. Sending me the bounces, the complaints, and basically trying to pretend that *I* am the scumbag is pissing me off. If they don't want me to fight back, they need to leave me alone. I've already tried contacting the feds, the Texas AG, etc. Those guys don't give a shit - it isn't there problem. I do give a shit - it's my problem.
I haven't beaten the shit out of a spammer, but believe me, I've been tempted, and the forgeries still continue.
Some spammers appear to have some fairly direct ties to organized crime. Eddy Marin, for instance, is a well known spammer from Boca Rattan. He also has also been busted in the past for cocaine sales. It's led me to wonder if some spammers are using their "legitimate opt in marketing" as a way of laundering money. There is no way for anyone looking in to tell how much money they really made by spamming, so they can report that they are making a profit (regardless of whether they sold anything) and use that as a way to make the money look legitimate.
Not only does it *not* say that, it *specifically* states that Dell does not install spyware.
And I can understand where they may not feel it is their job to be babysitters for every idiot who installs a pr0n dialer or some other piece of crap.
But I can't imagine why they wouldn't be willing to telling their customers "Visit spyware.com" (or whatever site they decided would be the most useful.) That would seem to entail very little effort while still helping their customers.
They've been selling "land on the moon" for years. It is a scam, as any reasonable person can tell at a glance. They also advertise by email spam (no surprise there - someone with a BS product sending email spam.) So if you support them, you're not just throwing your money away, you're supporting spam.
You're claim about "I am not affiated with the company" would be more believeable if you weren't posting as AC.
One of the offices I worked with required us to change our network passwords every two weeks. I found that to be a major pain. Soon I worked around it. I set up a program to change the password to a randomly generated pwd, then change it to another one, then another one. Soon, my usual password was bounced off of the list, so I could use it again. The program then reset the password back to the normal value - the password as I wanted it.
Every couple of weeks (Ok, I don't really remember how often it was) I'd get a "You need to change your password within 3 days" kind of notice as I logged on. I'd run my password program, and I'd be done until the next time.
I read The Hobbit when I was 14-15. Then I read the LOTR trilogy. And I've re-read them (all of them) several times since. I had not read them in some time when I heard they were coming out with the movie, so I reread the four of them. And, unlike you, I wasn't the least bit disapointed.
Excellent writing, fun story... The list of why I like them goes on and on.
I'm all in favor of them making a movie version of The Hobbit.
There are also a lot of pro-gun nuts on/.
AFAICT, their opinion is: "I want a gun. I hate and fear all authorities, especially if they are called 'government'. I oppose any steps by said government to either make it harder for me to have a gun or to keep track of who has guns."
I don't feel I need a gun to protect me from the government. The government has never broken into my house - or any of my friends houses.
I do feel that having a gun at my house makes my house a safer place. I feel that if a criminal decides to break into my house, he is likely to be armed, and I want an opportunity to protect myself. The government can't do it - it's up to us to defend ourselves. Outlaw guns, and the only ones with guns are criminals and the govenment.
You claim that people in favor of guns have no rational arguments - but you're the one calling names and putting words in our mouth.
In every case in the US where they have tried to limit the publics right to own guns, the crime rate has grown. It makes criminals feel safe.
Gun laws in, for instance, New York, do very little to keep the criminals from getting guns. They just make sure that the honest citizens are unable to defend themselves against the criminals.
For some time, I've expected to see the way advertisers handle their TV/Movie advertising differently. Instead of "cutting to a break", they'll start sponsoring the show up front - and the ad will be part of the show. They can do this in subtle ways, or you can be blatent about it. Either way, by building it into the show, the ad will be there whenever the TV-show/movie is seen.
That's easier to do for some products than others. And it may be harder for, say, a western to come up with good ways to advertise than, say, a show like "Friends".
they had no business integrating the browser into the OS like that>/i>
Nonsense. Any decent OS should include such basics. Anyone running a OS they consider remotely modern should be able to assume that they have a browser built in. Yes, there are better browsers than OE. I use Opera, myself. But there is nothing wrong in having MS or any developer of an OS including a browser in the system. If you don't like/trust that one, use another - no big deal.
At one time, browsers didn't include text editors, either. (or you would get piece-of-crap line editors like Edlin or vi, which are not much better than worthless.) Now, any browser will contain a reasonable (though not necessarily complete) text editor.
From a programmers point of view, being able to assume that the user has a HTML browser available makes things much simpler. From a users point of view, what good is an OS which doesn't handle HTML. From a OS designers point of view, every user will need a browser, so why not have it be available? That's what an OS does - it helps the user interact with all the files and 1's and 0's that the computer has sitting there.
Whenever I need information about a product or application, I very much appreciate having access to a PDF version.
I, on the other hand, hate PDF files. I would much rather have the same info in HTML files. And I can't imagine why you feel you can archive PDF but you can't archive HTML.
Spamhouse describes it as the top 200 spammers, but when I did my own (admitedly quick, and possibly not accurate) count, I counted 160 on the list. Of those 160 on the list, 30 were based out of the US. The other 130 were US spammers. Even if they use offshore hosting, if the spammers are in the US, and the products/companies/scams that they advertise are in the US, then they are US spammers, IMO.
In some cases, I'm sure it's a matter of offshore sites that are simply willing to host spammers, or who are willing to host them cheaper. But in many cases, I believe that the spam routed from overseas is sent via open relays and similar things.
This doesn't keep a spammer from communicating. That isn't the goal. The goal is to keep spammers from forging other peoples domains in their spam. If they are willing to say "I'm sending this", it won't stop them. If they say "Example.com is sending this" and example.com isn't really involved, then there isn't any censorship involved - but anyone receiving the message can easily see that the sender is lying and dump the mail unread.
This is why I have put my efforts into sender-pay systems
That would explain why you are spreading nonsense about "censorship".
Its sad to see fuckhead pigs like you with no fucking humor fucking talk.
Id beat you down too you pasty fat sexless nerdy puke. Fuck off.
Oh, no, whatever can I do? An annonymous coward has cussed me out! I feel so horrible that I have hurt his feelings.
Funny that I replied to Eskarel (565631) and I suddenly got cussed out by an AC, isn't it? I wonder who (Eskarel 65631) it could be?
The TCPA (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html) says (cut-n-pasted to cut out nonrelated stuff)....
My Cingular bill doesn't show any such fee. I can't see a downside from where I'm sitting. The only people I see whining about it are people who are under contract and can't cheaply move for a long time, and idiots like you who pay Sprint extra money to stay with them. You could, of course, move, but you'll just keep calling the rest of us babies while you continue to pay extra.
Because he's had a cell phone for six months and can't move his phone for another 1.5 years. Since it doesn't help him, he claims it sucks that everyone else has that option.
But I am looking around due to number portability. A lot of people have my number, and I don't want to change it. And I've got a very old phone. I'd like to get a new camera-phone so that I can take (fairly low quality) pictures whenever I want. My phone is always there, and I'd find that convenient.
My plan is to shop around and find a deal that gives me the same essential service I have now for about the same price, and that will give me a camera-phone when I lock into their 2 year agreement. Then, when I have a deal that sounds reasonable, if it's from anyone except Cingular, I plan to contact Cingular and ask if they'll give me a similar deal.
They've been good to me so far, and if they'll give me a deal on a camera phone, I'll sign up for 2 more years. If they won't, I'll probably take my chances with someone else.
Regardless, I probably won't move for a month or two. Number portability is new, and I'm sure they are getting beat up with requests. As time passes, the demand for "move me now" will let up, and they'll have a better handle on how to move people when it's requested. So I'll wait a bit longer, and keep watching the ads and checking on the web. In January or so, I'll probably make a change. If things work out, I hope to stay with Cingular.
You should run a virus checker. It sounds like you're infected.
Spamhaus didn't open an attachment and get infected. Idiots like you opened the attachment and got infected. And that attachment launches DDoS attacks (amoung other things) which are directed at Spamhaus.
Can your tiny little brain comprehend that?
Seriously, I doubt that.
but immediately saying this is the work of a spammer is stretching it just a bit. For all we know the person behind the worm has nothing to do with spam.
You obviously are not well informed on the subject. This isn't the first time they've used viruses to help launch DDoS attacks on anti-spam sites. Occam's Razor would suggest that the reason they are working so hard to try and take down those sites is because anti-spam sites keep the slimeballs from making as much money.
But your "the worm has nothing to do with spam" argument (with not so much as a hint of a reason) is so compelling, I'll ignore the evidence and just believe that spammers aren't slimey enough to write worms.
You are defending some of the most dishonest people on the planet, despite all evidence against them.
The 400-500 spams a day are a pain - but I can handle them. Sending me the bounces, the complaints, and basically trying to pretend that *I* am the scumbag is pissing me off. If they don't want me to fight back, they need to leave me alone. I've already tried contacting the feds, the Texas AG, etc. Those guys don't give a shit - it isn't there problem. I do give a shit - it's my problem.
I haven't beaten the shit out of a spammer, but believe me, I've been tempted, and the forgeries still continue.
And I can understand where they may not feel it is their job to be babysitters for every idiot who installs a pr0n dialer or some other piece of crap.
But I can't imagine why they wouldn't be willing to telling their customers "Visit spyware.com" (or whatever site they decided would be the most useful.) That would seem to entail very little effort while still helping their customers.
You're claim about "I am not affiated with the company" would be more believeable if you weren't posting as AC.
Every couple of weeks (Ok, I don't really remember how often it was) I'd get a "You need to change your password within 3 days" kind of notice as I logged on. I'd run my password program, and I'd be done until the next time.
Excellent writing, fun story... The list of why I like them goes on and on.
I'm all in favor of them making a movie version of The Hobbit.
AFAICT, their opinion is: "I want a gun. I hate and fear all authorities, especially if they are called 'government'. I oppose any steps by said government to either make it harder for me to have a gun or to keep track of who has guns."
I don't feel I need a gun to protect me from the government. The government has never broken into my house - or any of my friends houses.
I do feel that having a gun at my house makes my house a safer place. I feel that if a criminal decides to break into my house, he is likely to be armed, and I want an opportunity to protect myself. The government can't do it - it's up to us to defend ourselves. Outlaw guns, and the only ones with guns are criminals and the govenment.
You claim that people in favor of guns have no rational arguments - but you're the one calling names and putting words in our mouth.
Gun laws in, for instance, New York, do very little to keep the criminals from getting guns. They just make sure that the honest citizens are unable to defend themselves against the criminals.
That's easier to do for some products than others. And it may be harder for, say, a western to come up with good ways to advertise than, say, a show like "Friends".
Nonsense. Any decent OS should include such basics. Anyone running a OS they consider remotely modern should be able to assume that they have a browser built in. Yes, there are better browsers than OE. I use Opera, myself. But there is nothing wrong in having MS or any developer of an OS including a browser in the system. If you don't like/trust that one, use another - no big deal.
At one time, browsers didn't include text editors, either. (or you would get piece-of-crap line editors like Edlin or vi, which are not much better than worthless.) Now, any browser will contain a reasonable (though not necessarily complete) text editor.
From a programmers point of view, being able to assume that the user has a HTML browser available makes things much simpler. From a users point of view, what good is an OS which doesn't handle HTML. From a OS designers point of view, every user will need a browser, so why not have it be available? That's what an OS does - it helps the user interact with all the files and 1's and 0's that the computer has sitting there.
I do. And judging by the post that I just replied to, I don't think you have a clue.
I, on the other hand, hate PDF files. I would much rather have the same info in HTML files. And I can't imagine why you feel you can archive PDF but you can't archive HTML.
In some cases, I'm sure it's a matter of offshore sites that are simply willing to host spammers, or who are willing to host them cheaper. But in many cases, I believe that the spam routed from overseas is sent via open relays and similar things.