You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay. They're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.
Sound familiar? It should, it's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.
Why do you say that? If they handle this operating system in any way like their current operating system option (Android) it would actually be quite free and open. In fact, T-Mobile is slow to roll out updates, so I downloaded and built Android 2.0 from Google's git repository a few days after it was released. They actually document the whole process quite well.
I know there is a linux option for this, I am assuming someone makes a windows tool fot it as well. Create a livecd rescue of how you tweak the system for their use. They corrupt their system, boot the live cd, reformat the system to the way that you set it up as opposed to pure stock. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Have you seen Tom Cruise in Minority Report? Clearly, if this makes it out of prototype, then I will look like a movie star using it. Have some foresight man!
The link titled "demoed earlier this year" links to the slashdot story that was a summary of it. It requires a tiny bit of thought and/or effort. If it were summarized again then the story would be flamed with "DUPE! DUPE! DUPE! HOW DARE YOU DUPE ME SLASHDOT!" posts. Whoever tagged the parent as insightful should not be given any more mod points.
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oops, wrong bad news story link. that's the one I was aiming for. A source release would fix that.
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A simple "the code will be released later" statement from Google would certainly clear that up and keep the wolves at bay. Currently, the only word from them is noncommittal comments from Jean Baptiste Queru. Why so sheepish about it if that's the case? I don't think they like having stories like this about their utopian OS. Seems like a simple fix.
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Android is not GPL'd. Android is released under the Apache license. As of Android 2.0 Google has opted to not released the code to the Android Open Source Project. Those 10 million lines of code are for the most part closed. Sure, they have to release the kernel itself, but "Android" is theirs and they are keeping it.
I'm assuming this is to give Verizon exclusivity with their "droid" phone to be the only one running 2.0. I don't think they anticipated projects like cyanogenmod taking off quite like they have. Why buy a droid if your cheap g1 can run the latest software?
I think you missed the point. Slashdot summarizes news stories, from the summary you decide if you want to read the story. A blatantly misleading summary throws off the whole equation.
From this and your other antagonistic post on this story, the one implying only people without money chose to pirate media, I'm guessing you work for some dying industry with an obsolete business model? I'm sensing some angst. Perhaps Rupert Murdoch is your boss?
downs: Language skills show a difference between understanding speech and expressing speech, and commonly individuals with Down syndrome have a speech delay, requiring speech therapy to improve expressive language. (wikipedia) a translation for you: Many (not all) people with downs can understand you just fine, but have troubles expressing themselves.
And autism? really? You don't know many autistic folk do you. About a third to a half of individuals with autism do not develop enough natural speech to meet their daily communication needs. (also wikipedia)
All we are talking about here is using it as a speech synthesizer, not diagnosing diseases. You say "They need to be safety tested with live humans, and that is not cheap." I'm really baffled as to how one performs expensive testing of a speech synthesizer on humans? Perhaps the Stephen Hawking voice causes spontaneous combustion in humans? Enlighten me!
The chaffing with moist cotton (jeans, khakis, whatever) is terrible.
Most importantly, sweat. Normal cotton blend clothes are sponges. Getting somewhere soaking wet really isn't very pleasant. Form fitting synthetics pull moisture away from your skin and allow it to evaporate quickly.
Also, my legs look good in lycra. Yours are probably pasty and pudgy.
Yeah, I posted that when it went live. Apparently it wasn't cool enough then and was declined. When put more in iPhoney terms it becomes MUCH cooler, even though it doesn't exist yet.
and the Panasonic 830p as no. 3? Seriously, it's not much cooler than a Razor! Is that just the cheapest phone that peoples mom get when they get a phone?
I'm kind of disappointed with the Japanese. I was expecting much cooler gadgets. I'll take my Android based MyTouch over those any day.
So, as an ignorant American I am baffled by the rest of the list. The Sharp SH-06A is the no. 2 phone? It seems to be a fairly boring clamshell phone with a nice camera. Am I missing something or do the Japanese just really value a good camera? Sharp phones in general, can someone explain them?
Android has AndNav, TeleNav, and CoPilot for turn by turn navigation.
I have an Android phone not an iPhone, but based on the fact that the apple app store has 10x the content the android market does, there were probably already some apps doing this. Am I wrong?
My CoPilot plug: $35 and it has the same functionality (or so it seems to me, once again, no iPhone).
Grandpa doesn't use the internet for the internet, he's not going to use it for his TV! This is going to fall into the realm of torrents and text messages, generational.
I think making Yet Another Linux Distro would be a death sentence for it. Who was the first to try that? Corel? Many have, all have failed. It would be relegated to the niche Ubuntu already has.
The one company to really take a unixish kernel and succeed with it? Apple. Many of your arguments could have been made about OS X and the BSD kernel it is based on. I suspect this will be similarly non recognizable to the other OS's using its kernel, and probably have a similar port ability. Taking all the obvious unix-like parts out of it really is required to get your grandmother to use it on her netbook. Think about explaining/usr/lib/etc to grandma. It requires a complete rewrite.
I also think this is going to take the concept of an "app store" to the desktop, which you could certainly argue against, but google is not going to pigeonhole the OS into only web apps. I'd bet body parts this will support Java and some form of native code.
I think it will be an interesting blur between smartphone and laptop functionality, for netbooks. Them saying it is for netbooks is admitting it will not replace a full fledged OS, don't be afraid, other options will always be there. They aren't even aiming at replacing them.
Crack cocaine! I'm guessing you work in a fairly urban environment, shouldn't be too hard to find. Look for the guy on the corner looking around nervously. You'll find it's cheap, greatly increases your metabolism, eliminates the desire (dare I say need?) to eat, and has the added benefit of eliminating the need for that morning coffee! Those 12 hour night shifts have you feeling drained? No problem, try crack! You'll be lean and mean in no time!
Well, you have to take into consideration the timing. A week ago it would have been for more when there was still a chance at continuing the site , but the Swedish courts just declared that the judge was not biased, and that TPB does not get a retrial. So, it's one of the most popular websites that has just effectively been killed. They bought a 7.8 million dollar domain name.
Yes, they do. While TPB have no part in running the party, it is most definately not a name coincidence:
On 31 May 2006 Swedish police raided a facility hosting The Pirate Bay (and Piratbyrån, along with over 200 other independent site owners, hosted at the same facility), leading to a breakthrough for the Pirate Party in the public eye. Before the raid, the Party was steadily growing with some ten new members every day, but the raid caused a surge of 500 new members by the end of the day, with a membership count of 2,680. The next day another 930 people had register membership, giving a total of 3,611 members, more than doubling their original number.
In April 2009, after The Pirate Bay trial verdict, the Pirate Party gained 3,000 members in 7 hours, making it larger than 3 of the 7 parties in the Parliament of Sweden, by member count.[9] One week later it had already 40,000 members â" compared to 15,000 members before the verdict â" and now has more members than 5 of the 7 parties in the Swedish Parliament, with over 46,376 members as of 22 May 2009
2000 members before the raids, 46,000 after. They are most definitely part of the brand.
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You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay. They're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.
Sound familiar? It should, it's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.
Why do you say that? If they handle this operating system in any way like their current operating system option (Android) it would actually be quite free and open. In fact, T-Mobile is slow to roll out updates, so I downloaded and built Android 2.0 from Google's git repository a few days after it was released. They actually document the whole process quite well.
I know there is a linux option for this, I am assuming someone makes a windows tool fot it as well. Create a livecd rescue of how you tweak the system for their use. They corrupt their system, boot the live cd, reformat the system to the way that you set it up as opposed to pure stock. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Have you seen Tom Cruise in Minority Report? Clearly, if this makes it out of prototype, then I will look like a movie star using it. Have some foresight man!
The link titled "demoed earlier this year" links to the slashdot story that was a summary of it. It requires a tiny bit of thought and/or effort. If it were summarized again then the story would be flamed with "DUPE! DUPE! DUPE! HOW DARE YOU DUPE ME SLASHDOT!" posts. Whoever tagged the parent as insightful should not be given any more mod points.
oops, wrong bad news story link. that's the one I was aiming for. A source release would fix that.
A simple "the code will be released later" statement from Google would certainly clear that up and keep the wolves at bay. Currently, the only word from them is noncommittal comments from Jean Baptiste Queru. Why so sheepish about it if that's the case? I don't think they like having stories like this about their utopian OS. Seems like a simple fix.
Android is not GPL'd. Android is released under the Apache license. As of Android 2.0 Google has opted to not released the code to the Android Open Source Project. Those 10 million lines of code are for the most part closed. Sure, they have to release the kernel itself, but "Android" is theirs and they are keeping it.
I'm assuming this is to give Verizon exclusivity with their "droid" phone to be the only one running 2.0. I don't think they anticipated projects like cyanogenmod taking off quite like they have. Why buy a droid if your cheap g1 can run the latest software?
Do No Evil?
I think you missed the point. Slashdot summarizes news stories, from the summary you decide if you want to read the story. A blatantly misleading summary throws off the whole equation.
From this and your other antagonistic post on this story, the one implying only people without money chose to pirate media, I'm guessing you work for some dying industry with an obsolete business model? I'm sensing some angst. Perhaps Rupert Murdoch is your boss?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Frequency#United_States_2
Doesn't look like the US military uses much of the wireless spectrum... am I missing something?
That law has never made sense to me. You are allowed to drive with loud music and the windows up, but not headphones? It's pretty much the same thing.
Also, Deaf people can drive.
I'm not arguing Deaf people shouldn't drive, I'm saying headphones should be allowed. My stereo doesn't have an aux in port, I have to.
You sir, are ignorant.
downs: Language skills show a difference between understanding speech and expressing speech, and commonly individuals with Down syndrome have a speech delay, requiring speech therapy to improve expressive language. (wikipedia) a translation for you: Many (not all) people with downs can understand you just fine, but have troubles expressing themselves.
And autism? really? You don't know many autistic folk do you. About a third to a half of individuals with autism do not develop enough natural speech to meet their daily communication needs. (also wikipedia)
You didn't read the article, did you?
All we are talking about here is using it as a speech synthesizer, not diagnosing diseases. You say "They need to be safety tested with live humans, and that is not cheap." I'm really baffled as to how one performs expensive testing of a speech synthesizer on humans? Perhaps the Stephen Hawking voice causes spontaneous combustion in humans? Enlighten me!
It's webkit. They didn't make it browse well, they just put a terrible "learning curve" on webkit.
discomfort?
Padding in the shorts
The chaffing with moist cotton (jeans, khakis, whatever) is terrible.
Most importantly, sweat. Normal cotton blend clothes are sponges. Getting somewhere soaking wet really isn't very pleasant. Form fitting synthetics pull moisture away from your skin and allow it to evaporate quickly.
Also, my legs look good in lycra. Yours are probably pasty and pudgy.
Sure, ride 100 miles a week in jeans. Let me know how the bruised ass and chafed raw legs work out for you!
http://slashdot.org/submission/1057877/Augmented-Reality-browser-goes-global
Yeah, I posted that when it went live. Apparently it wasn't cool enough then and was declined. When put more in iPhoney terms it becomes MUCH cooler, even though it doesn't exist yet.
and the Panasonic 830p as no. 3? Seriously, it's not much cooler than a Razor! Is that just the cheapest phone that peoples mom get when they get a phone?
I'm kind of disappointed with the Japanese. I was expecting much cooler gadgets. I'll take my Android based MyTouch over those any day.
So, as an ignorant American I am baffled by the rest of the list. The Sharp SH-06A is the no. 2 phone? It seems to be a fairly boring clamshell phone with a nice camera. Am I missing something or do the Japanese just really value a good camera? Sharp phones in general, can someone explain them?
Android has AndNav, TeleNav, and CoPilot for turn by turn navigation. I have an Android phone not an iPhone, but based on the fact that the apple app store has 10x the content the android market does, there were probably already some apps doing this. Am I wrong? My CoPilot plug: $35 and it has the same functionality (or so it seems to me, once again, no iPhone).
Grandpa doesn't use the internet for the internet, he's not going to use it for his TV! This is going to fall into the realm of torrents and text messages, generational.
That and their content is pretty lame.
I think making Yet Another Linux Distro would be a death sentence for it. Who was the first to try that? Corel? Many have, all have failed. It would be relegated to the niche Ubuntu already has.
/usr /lib /etc to grandma. It requires a complete rewrite.
The one company to really take a unixish kernel and succeed with it? Apple. Many of your arguments could have been made about OS X and the BSD kernel it is based on. I suspect this will be similarly non recognizable to the other OS's using its kernel, and probably have a similar port ability. Taking all the obvious unix-like parts out of it really is required to get your grandmother to use it on her netbook. Think about explaining
I also think this is going to take the concept of an "app store" to the desktop, which you could certainly argue against, but google is not going to pigeonhole the OS into only web apps. I'd bet body parts this will support Java and some form of native code.
I think it will be an interesting blur between smartphone and laptop functionality, for netbooks. Them saying it is for netbooks is admitting it will not replace a full fledged OS, don't be afraid, other options will always be there. They aren't even aiming at replacing them.
Crack cocaine! I'm guessing you work in a fairly urban environment, shouldn't be too hard to find. Look for the guy on the corner looking around nervously. You'll find it's cheap, greatly increases your metabolism, eliminates the desire (dare I say need?) to eat, and has the added benefit of eliminating the need for that morning coffee! Those 12 hour night shifts have you feeling drained? No problem, try crack! You'll be lean and mean in no time!
Well, you have to take into consideration the timing. A week ago it would have been for more when there was still a chance at continuing the site , but the Swedish courts just declared that the judge was not biased, and that TPB does not get a retrial. So, it's one of the most popular websites that has just effectively been killed. They bought a 7.8 million dollar domain name.
On 31 May 2006 Swedish police raided a facility hosting The Pirate Bay (and Piratbyrån, along with over 200 other independent site owners, hosted at the same facility), leading to a breakthrough for the Pirate Party in the public eye. Before the raid, the Party was steadily growing with some ten new members every day, but the raid caused a surge of 500 new members by the end of the day, with a membership count of 2,680. The next day another 930 people had register membership, giving a total of 3,611 members, more than doubling their original number.
In April 2009, after The Pirate Bay trial verdict, the Pirate Party gained 3,000 members in 7 hours, making it larger than 3 of the 7 parties in the Parliament of Sweden, by member count.[9] One week later it had already 40,000 members â" compared to 15,000 members before the verdict â" and now has more members than 5 of the 7 parties in the Swedish Parliament, with over 46,376 members as of 22 May 2009
2000 members before the raids, 46,000 after. They are most definitely part of the brand.
They get Brand. A brand that has a major political party behind it. But yeah, not a brand that equates to buying dollars, that's for sure.