In my view, there are five currently supported mainstream browser engines: IE, Firefox/Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror and Safari - in roughly increasing order of CSS support. Yes, it has indeed been pretty obvious that Gecko has lagged a little for the past 18 months or so.
Unfortunately, many developers think that "works in Firefox"=="works according to standards", and thus "works in Firefox"=="works in Opera". These days, Gecko (despite being not too bad) is the probably the second-worst mainstream browser engine in terms of CSS support, so does have the occasional issue with margins or floats, which ends up causing problems for Opera when it tries to render a page made for Firefox/IE.
his boss still insisted on equating free with crap. PHB's (Pointy-haired bosses) don't know the meaning of the word "free," and are willing to piss away enormous amounts of money for a warrenty card and tech support number even if the product itself is inferior.
StarOffice should produce a "StarOffice Professional" and sell it for $800. No difference at all, just the price.
The author seems to be incredibly ignorant about Opera's merits. Opera has not only proved to be in extremely healthy state with huge advances in technology in the past 12 months, but it has been leading (yes, leading!) all other browsers with its truly innovative features.
Those who say they don't like it because of the ads are extremely narrow minded. Why don't you just buy the thing, rather than unrealistically discredit the browser?
It's not open source, but seriously, who cares? It's made by a good-natured company that's actually staying alive.
Those who say it's not good because it has three competitors are just too lazy to admit the facts.
Funny that, I was thinking of doing the same thing, but haven't gotten round to it yet.
I was thinking to hang the RCX block (heaviest piece) from the top and let it swing freely to brush past three touch sensors. This would be a crude way to determine direction as well as ternary magnitude of the tilt.
"From a geologic perspective, events like this have happened many times in the past. Asteroids the size of 1950 DA have probably struck the Earth about 600 times since the age of the dinosaurs," Ward said.
Dividing 65 million by 600 gives a ginormous asteroid hitting us every 100,000 years. Where was I 100,000 years ago, and where will I be 100,000 years from now?
(No, I don't trust their estimate of getting hit 800 years from now)
Opera 6/Linux had always been substandard, IMO. The interface was clunky and unneccessarily big, the font management was bad, and it was very unsynchronised with the Windows version.
But Opera 7.11 final (not betas) is indescribably excellent. It is now almost a mirror of the Windows version, skinning support is excellent, fonts are beautiful out of the box, and everything is now suddenly very, very, very polished.
Notes can't be, but that's not a huge loss in my humble opinion. There are possible better alternatives (notepad, vim,...)
Have you seen it in action? It's not a text editor. It's an autosaving note collector and organiser, with perfect integration into the browser/mailclient.
Mozilla's type ahead sounds far better than fast forward.
They are completely different things. A better comparison for type ahead find is the Ctrl-J (Links) dialog/panel, or Spatial Navigation, or Inline Find.
Which features can't be found in Mozilla?
A lot of window/session management features, like "Continue browsing from last session" (!), restoring/minimizing/tiling/cascading pages. There's much much better and infinitely easier UI customization (toolbars, menus, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts [read: macros]).
There is quick-to-use and excellent user style sheet support, including 12 built in (banner ad killers, page debuggers, accessibility, etc.). Oh, and there's the fast forward/Wand integration. No doubt lots lots more features...
BTW, Why does every/. article on Opera become a Moz vs. Opera war?
I mean, it is well known that Australia is a haven for Spammers.
No it isn't. Australian email address receive far less spam than US ones. And then there's that supposed Government backed anti-spam legislation coming in.
And no, my mailbox is not full of "enlarge your crocodile" messages...
That reminds me of Googlisms.com. Interestingly, the Internet doesn't think of these people as negatively as/.ers do. Maybe it's because noone talks about them except their own company?
About time they picked a winner. Only, what, a month overdue? I mean, how long does it take 10 judges to find the best 5 out of all 25 entries?
The actual competition sucked too. There were not enough restrictions on purity, etc. which scared most people off since they felt they had to do everything all over.
I'm wondering if your statement has been affected by peer pressure or the media. Has anyone else noticed that Google's results have been declining over the past few months/years, or is it just me?
Three years ago when I first discovered Google, it actually had an amazing ability to turn up the page that you were looking for as the first result. These days, I'm lucky if I find what I'm looking for at all.
Has the web grown that much that the effectiveness of PageRank has decreased noticeably? Or it could be just me.:-/
It's disgusting that some Mozilla fans cannot take any critisisms of the project, and that they can't accept the fact that it was simply rude to choose someone else's name like that.
It will be less painful to pick another name now while it's hot, rather than ignore the critics for eternity.
I find that Opera is almost always the first browser to introduce these types of features. For example, "tabbed browsing" is mostly an incomplete imitation of Opera 1's MDI. Features like saving window setups (and opening them on startup) were first introduced on Opera. "Continue browsing from last session" is currently native to Opera and IE frontends.
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In my view, there are five currently supported mainstream browser engines: IE, Firefox/Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror and Safari - in roughly increasing order of CSS support. Yes, it has indeed been pretty obvious that Gecko has lagged a little for the past 18 months or so.
Unfortunately, many developers think that "works in Firefox"=="works according to standards", and thus "works in Firefox"=="works in Opera". These days, Gecko (despite being not too bad) is the probably the second-worst mainstream browser engine in terms of CSS support, so does have the occasional issue with margins or floats, which ends up causing problems for Opera when it tries to render a page made for Firefox/IE.
The other option is to upgrade to Opera 7.23. :-)
his boss still insisted on equating free with crap. PHB's (Pointy-haired bosses) don't know the meaning of the word "free," and are willing to piss away enormous amounts of money for a warrenty card and tech support number even if the product itself is inferior.
StarOffice should produce a "StarOffice Professional" and sell it for $800. No difference at all, just the price.
And I know many of those incomplete/buggy properties have been fixed between 7.0 and 7.2.
Nothing (yet) beats gecko's (mozilla renderer) CSS 1/2 compliance.
The most complete list I'm currently aware of is at macedition check it out here
I did a quick tally from that table and Opera is the champion with only 11 "Not OK's" compared to Mozilla's 14.
The author seems to be incredibly ignorant about Opera's merits. Opera has not only proved to be in extremely healthy state with huge advances in technology in the past 12 months, but it has been leading (yes, leading!) all other browsers with its truly innovative features.
Those who say they don't like it because of the ads are extremely narrow minded. Why don't you just buy the thing, rather than unrealistically discredit the browser?
It's not open source, but seriously, who cares? It's made by a good-natured company that's actually staying alive.
Those who say it's not good because it has three competitors are just too lazy to admit the facts.
Funny that, I was thinking of doing the same thing, but haven't gotten round to it yet.
I was thinking to hang the RCX block (heaviest piece) from the top and let it swing freely to brush past three touch sensors. This would be a crude way to determine direction as well as ternary magnitude of the tilt.
(No, I don't trust their estimate of getting hit 800 years from now)
Gecko has had support for this
for some time, but Opera 6 was missing it.
Wrong. Opera 6 had full alpha channel support for PNG. PNG supporting browsers.
It only downloads ads weekly.
Opera 6/Linux had always been substandard, IMO. The interface was clunky and unneccessarily big, the font management was bad, and it was very unsynchronised with the Windows version.
But Opera 7.11 final (not betas) is indescribably excellent. It is now almost a mirror of the Windows version, skinning support is excellent, fonts are beautiful out of the box, and everything is now suddenly very, very, very polished.
Notes can't be, but that's not a huge loss in my humble opinion. There are possible better alternatives (notepad, vim, ...)
/. article on Opera become a Moz vs. Opera war?
Have you seen it in action? It's not a text editor. It's an autosaving note collector and organiser, with perfect integration into the browser/mailclient.
Mozilla's type ahead sounds far better than fast forward.
They are completely different things. A better comparison for type ahead find is the Ctrl-J (Links) dialog/panel, or Spatial Navigation, or Inline Find.
Which features can't be found in Mozilla?
A lot of window/session management features, like "Continue browsing from last session" (!), restoring/minimizing/tiling/cascading pages. There's much much better and infinitely easier UI customization (toolbars, menus, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts [read: macros]).
There is quick-to-use and excellent user style sheet support, including 12 built in (banner ad killers, page debuggers, accessibility, etc.). Oh, and there's the fast forward/Wand integration. No doubt lots lots more features...
BTW, Why does every
I mean, it is well known that Australia is a haven for Spammers.
No it isn't. Australian email address receive far less spam than US ones. And then there's that supposed Government backed anti-spam legislation coming in.
And no, my mailbox is not full of "enlarge your crocodile" messages...
Witty, clever, and sadly on-target in quite a lot of its observations.
Why sadly?
That reminds me of Googlisms.com. Interestingly, the Internet doesn't think of these people as negatively as /.ers do. Maybe it's because noone talks about them except their own company?
About time they picked a winner. Only, what, a month overdue? I mean, how long does it take 10 judges to find the best 5 out of all 25 entries?
The actual competition sucked too. There were not enough restrictions on purity, etc. which scared most people off since they felt they had to do everything all over.
I'm wondering if your statement has been affected by peer pressure or the media. Has anyone else noticed that Google's results have been declining over the past few months/years, or is it just me?
Three years ago when I first discovered Google, it actually had an amazing ability to turn up the page that you were looking for as the first result. These days, I'm lucky if I find what I'm looking for at all.
Has the web grown that much that the effectiveness of PageRank has decreased noticeably? Or it could be just me. :-/
It's childish and irrelevant to brand their words as childish.
It's disgusting that some Mozilla fans cannot take any critisisms of the project, and that they can't accept the fact that it was simply rude to choose someone else's name like that.
It will be less painful to pick another name now while it's hot, rather than ignore the critics for eternity.
I find that Opera is almost always the first browser to introduce these types of features. For example, "tabbed browsing" is mostly an incomplete imitation of Opera 1's MDI. Features like saving window setups (and opening them on startup) were first introduced on Opera. "Continue browsing from last session" is currently native to Opera and IE frontends.