just how huge the non-Redhat free software market is; that MS and Sun's marketing campaigns don't know how to touch
Any marketing geared toward someone who uses FOSS because of what it is and not just because its free is going to fail. Thats why Sun and MS don't care, they don't really care about hobbyists. MS never appealed to hobbyists or enthusiasts, and Solaris did only because it was a good Unix and if it ran something *BSD or Linux didn't, but now they have long since moved on. Trying to sell Windows to a die hard FOSS user would be like trying to sell a hot dog at a vegan convention, your only going to waste money. Its obvious to me because I have worked in a large technology company, if you weren't the target audience, you didn't matter.
No other distro is going after their business. You think Sun or MS cares that I run ArchLinux and Slackware? Or that the guy down the street runs Debian and maybe some other guy runs Mandrake? Suse is in a state of transition right now, NDS is too new, no one takes Lin-whatever-the-hell-they're called seriously and everything else falls into the realm of a hobby OS. None of those are the business that Sun or MS are targeting. If Red Hat was not in the position it is now, neither would be going after any distro since for them they would effectively not exist. Red Hat is the target not because they are moving Linux, but because they are successfully moving a product into areas that both Sun and MS want. If they were selling DR-DOS as well they would be the target. Red Hat the brand is the target, not the software.
"Oh, you don't carry Red Hat? Well we were kinda looking to get a Linux box. Thanks, we'll be talking to IBM."
Sorry but Red Hat IS Linux to many businesses. Thats why Sun directs its challenges to Red Hat, thats why MS talks about Red Hat when they do the TCO arguments, Red Hat is the most visible company selling a Linux system. If you want to aim big, and Dell does, if your not going to carry Red Hat, there's no point in carrying Linux at all.
I hope that makes you feel good, because to everyone else your an asshole. E-Mail, Slashdot and just about any other forum or personal communication is INFORMAL. It doesn't matter if its spelt correctly in every instance as long as your point comes across. Now if it was a formal correspondence, then yes spelling and grammer would count.
Are the lives of the Slashdot community so sad that you have to resort to attempting to look superior by pointing out everyones typos?
No there is no OSS equivalent to Access. If all you were using was a database then yes, MySQL would be, but you don't use Access just to store data. With MySQL you have to create the front end, with Access its all there. There is no query builder, table designer or report generator for MySQL, thats all extra. Those are the reasons that you use Access, MySQL wouldn't just be overkill for those applications, but it would be a pain in the ass to set up.
Thats all well and good, if the only thing important to the school is football. I used to think that university was about education, then I finnished High School, dolts who play sports are the only people schools are interested in. It should be a disgusting reminder of why the US falls behind in every academic endeavour, but everyone is too busy screaming their heads off at some stupid game.
From Suns angle, it is a company war. They don't care about these little hobby distros, and even Debian and Slakware fall into that. They draw the attention of people that Sun has very little interest in. CIO's on the other hand, think of Red Hat when they hear Linux. That is Suns competition.
More along the lines that the only safe environment for anything is OpenBSD until otherwise proven. You can't blame the OpenSSH project for having to use the most popular and therefore probably default libraries of whatever platform that people want OpenSSH ported to. One of the big things that makes OpenBSD and code that runs on it more robust is the ProPolice patches they have in GCC, something that the GCC developers refuse to add IIRC. In a nutshell, propolice makes it so that any buffer overflow that happens (and they will, developers are still human), the app crashes instead of executing code. That one thing has made OpenBSD the OS most often listed as unaffected by most problems that pop up and its the same result you'd get using a managed language.
The only way that djbdns is completely without bugs is if it is so simple, even a child could have written it. As soon as you add complexity, you add bugs, they might be really nicely hidden if the programmer really is very careful, but they are there. OpenBSD has bugs too, but the choices the developers have made, such as adding ProPolice, reduce the possible effects that those bugs will have.
Then shouldn't googling for it increase the time spent learning since you no longer have to manually go through books upon books to find what you were looking for? No retention of what you read is hardly googles fault, you would have forgotten what you read in a book as well.
Computers are just objects they don't make someone fail courses, so don't blame it. You want someone to blame, blame the compete lack of parenting shown all too often, or blame the students lack of self control, this is just more people looking to lay blame elsewhere and say, "look its not my fault."
What expectation of privacy do you have at work? None. Every action you take can potentially affect everyone, so the crime would not be 'potential-harassment' but neglegence.
That said, that wouldn't be what the crime was, and not why you would be canned. Everywhere I've been, viewing porn is grounds for dismissal. On top of that, labor laws usually spell out exactly what would not be appropriate behavior at work, and viewing porn is no doubt there. So you are now in violation of that law, no need to be charged on your potential harrasment.
Stop thinking you have the right to do what ever the hell you want everywhere you are. Even in your own house there are things you can not do, and that list increases as soon as you walk out your door in the morning. I'm sorry but unless you work in the porn industry, you can't look at porn when your at work.
That was the portable OpenSSH, not native OpenSSH. OpenSSH on OpenBSD has had one problem in the past few years because all the parts that it requires are secure and audited. Porting OpenSSH to other platforms requires them to link to other libraries that have not been written as securly and very often never audited, therefore its not a bug in OpenSSH so much as an unintended interaction because it is outside of its native environment.
Rumor has it that you havne't had to update qmail or djbdns because those projects arn't exactly open to accepting bug reports or acknowledging the fact that there might be problems. I don't really know, I don't use either of them.
This is bullshit, using AIM and typing 'OMG LOL!!!!111!1' does not make anyone tech savvy. They might not be as afraid of the computer, but they are no more cluefull then any other average person.
And there are how many users at any one time? How many for WoW at any given time? It might work for a small community, but at the moment, its not going to work for WoW, EQ2 or any of the extremely large MMO games.
GPLv3 should also talk about patents, and the current Apache license already does. Do you find that just as unappealing, or are you just reaching for something to dislike about it.
I think that your giving a little too much credit to the average user. Actually far too much credit. To the average user, there is no difference between whats displayed on a page, in a popup or as part of a window. Thats why those "YOUR COMPUTER IS BROADCASTING ITS IP" popups work so well, the average user has no idea how to tell that its a valid OS message or just some stupid popup.
It was originally intended to be a feture, just some people chose to use it to cause problems. Then again, some people choose to use Linux to attack other systems, should we also get rid of Linux?
In the context, it definatly appeared that by linking Apple as an example of taking advantage of OSS, but not contributing, it definatly seemed that the poster was aiming for the negative application of 'taking advantage.' Well it did to me anyway.
They paid for NeXT. NeXT is the basis for OS X, not BSD. Apple, NeXT and just about everyone else wrote really important parts of the mach kernel, and instead of taking damn near forever to write everything from scratch took advantage of the microkernel architecture and turned some BSD networking into a subsystem.
Incidentally, using BSD licenced code in this way is not 'taking advantage of' in the negative sence that that phrase implies, but it is making use of it in the way the programmers intended. They have also given back many improvments they have made, something that is not required with the BSD licence.
no English word Thats not quite true. While there is no word that very narrowly means the rough indeterminant amount of time, day does have one of those meanings. For instance: "In my grandfathers day, they didn't have to have locks on their door's." Now what day was this? Nov 12. 1938? No it was just a vague period of time characterized by a similar set of events. So in Genesis, where it says, "..and on the sixth day he created man," this does not have to refer to a single 24h period of time, but the indeterminant period of mans creation. So day is infact a very correct translation.
Final Fantasy is less of a series and more like a sub-genre, which is what makes it popular. Much like reading books from the same author or specific subject, you have an idea what its about but you don't know the specifics, its familiar and new at the same time.
I believe that its the other way around. Its based on MySQL and used for things of this nature. I think that I saw it on MySQL's site before the SAP deal, but I could be wrong on both counts.
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Open source does mean access to the source code. Open Source (TM) or OSI approved Open Source means more then access to the source.
just how huge the non-Redhat free software market is; that MS and Sun's marketing campaigns don't know how to touch
Any marketing geared toward someone who uses FOSS because of what it is and not just because its free is going to fail. Thats why Sun and MS don't care, they don't really care about hobbyists. MS never appealed to hobbyists or enthusiasts, and Solaris did only because it was a good Unix and if it ran something *BSD or Linux didn't, but now they have long since moved on. Trying to sell Windows to a die hard FOSS user would be like trying to sell a hot dog at a vegan convention, your only going to waste money. Its obvious to me because I have worked in a large technology company, if you weren't the target audience, you didn't matter.
No other distro is going after their business. You think Sun or MS cares that I run ArchLinux and Slackware? Or that the guy down the street runs Debian and maybe some other guy runs Mandrake? Suse is in a state of transition right now, NDS is too new, no one takes Lin-whatever-the-hell-they're called seriously and everything else falls into the realm of a hobby OS. None of those are the business that Sun or MS are targeting. If Red Hat was not in the position it is now, neither would be going after any distro since for them they would effectively not exist. Red Hat is the target not because they are moving Linux, but because they are successfully moving a product into areas that both Sun and MS want. If they were selling DR-DOS as well they would be the target. Red Hat the brand is the target, not the software.
"Oh, you don't carry Red Hat? Well we were kinda looking to get a Linux box. Thanks, we'll be talking to IBM."
Sorry but Red Hat IS Linux to many businesses. Thats why Sun directs its challenges to Red Hat, thats why MS talks about Red Hat when they do the TCO arguments, Red Hat is the most visible company selling a Linux system. If you want to aim big, and Dell does, if your not going to carry Red Hat, there's no point in carrying Linux at all.
Ya I know. Its so hard to have a system thats used to back things up.
I hope that makes you feel good, because to everyone else your an asshole. E-Mail, Slashdot and just about any other forum or personal communication is INFORMAL. It doesn't matter if its spelt correctly in every instance as long as your point comes across. Now if it was a formal correspondence, then yes spelling and grammer would count.
Are the lives of the Slashdot community so sad that you have to resort to attempting to look superior by pointing out everyones typos?
No there is no OSS equivalent to Access. If all you were using was a database then yes, MySQL would be, but you don't use Access just to store data. With MySQL you have to create the front end, with Access its all there. There is no query builder, table designer or report generator for MySQL, thats all extra. Those are the reasons that you use Access, MySQL wouldn't just be overkill for those applications, but it would be a pain in the ass to set up.
Thats all well and good, if the only thing important to the school is football. I used to think that university was about education, then I finnished High School, dolts who play sports are the only people schools are interested in. It should be a disgusting reminder of why the US falls behind in every academic endeavour, but everyone is too busy screaming their heads off at some stupid game.
From Suns angle, it is a company war. They don't care about these little hobby distros, and even Debian and Slakware fall into that. They draw the attention of people that Sun has very little interest in. CIO's on the other hand, think of Red Hat when they hear Linux. That is Suns competition.
More along the lines that the only safe environment for anything is OpenBSD until otherwise proven. You can't blame the OpenSSH project for having to use the most popular and therefore probably default libraries of whatever platform that people want OpenSSH ported to. One of the big things that makes OpenBSD and code that runs on it more robust is the ProPolice patches they have in GCC, something that the GCC developers refuse to add IIRC. In a nutshell, propolice makes it so that any buffer overflow that happens (and they will, developers are still human), the app crashes instead of executing code. That one thing has made OpenBSD the OS most often listed as unaffected by most problems that pop up and its the same result you'd get using a managed language.
The only way that djbdns is completely without bugs is if it is so simple, even a child could have written it. As soon as you add complexity, you add bugs, they might be really nicely hidden if the programmer really is very careful, but they are there. OpenBSD has bugs too, but the choices the developers have made, such as adding ProPolice, reduce the possible effects that those bugs will have.
Then shouldn't googling for it increase the time spent learning since you no longer have to manually go through books upon books to find what you were looking for? No retention of what you read is hardly googles fault, you would have forgotten what you read in a book as well.
Computers are just objects they don't make someone fail courses, so don't blame it. You want someone to blame, blame the compete lack of parenting shown all too often, or blame the students lack of self control, this is just more people looking to lay blame elsewhere and say, "look its not my fault."
What expectation of privacy do you have at work? None. Every action you take can potentially affect everyone, so the crime would not be 'potential-harassment' but neglegence.
That said, that wouldn't be what the crime was, and not why you would be canned. Everywhere I've been, viewing porn is grounds for dismissal. On top of that, labor laws usually spell out exactly what would not be appropriate behavior at work, and viewing porn is no doubt there. So you are now in violation of that law, no need to be charged on your potential harrasment.
Stop thinking you have the right to do what ever the hell you want everywhere you are. Even in your own house there are things you can not do, and that list increases as soon as you walk out your door in the morning. I'm sorry but unless you work in the porn industry, you can't look at porn when your at work.
That was the portable OpenSSH, not native OpenSSH. OpenSSH on OpenBSD has had one problem in the past few years because all the parts that it requires are secure and audited. Porting OpenSSH to other platforms requires them to link to other libraries that have not been written as securly and very often never audited, therefore its not a bug in OpenSSH so much as an unintended interaction because it is outside of its native environment.
Rumor has it that you havne't had to update qmail or djbdns because those projects arn't exactly open to accepting bug reports or acknowledging the fact that there might be problems. I don't really know, I don't use either of them.
This is bullshit, using AIM and typing 'OMG LOL!!!!111!1' does not make anyone tech savvy. They might not be as afraid of the computer, but they are no more cluefull then any other average person.
And there are how many users at any one time? How many for WoW at any given time? It might work for a small community, but at the moment, its not going to work for WoW, EQ2 or any of the extremely large MMO games.
GPLv3 should also talk about patents, and the current Apache license already does. Do you find that just as unappealing, or are you just reaching for something to dislike about it.
I think that your giving a little too much credit to the average user. Actually far too much credit. To the average user, there is no difference between whats displayed on a page, in a popup or as part of a window. Thats why those "YOUR COMPUTER IS BROADCASTING ITS IP" popups work so well, the average user has no idea how to tell that its a valid OS message or just some stupid popup.
It was originally intended to be a feture, just some people chose to use it to cause problems. Then again, some people choose to use Linux to attack other systems, should we also get rid of Linux?
In the context, it definatly appeared that by linking Apple as an example of taking advantage of OSS, but not contributing, it definatly seemed that the poster was aiming for the negative application of 'taking advantage.' Well it did to me anyway.
They paid for NeXT. NeXT is the basis for OS X, not BSD. Apple, NeXT and just about everyone else wrote really important parts of the mach kernel, and instead of taking damn near forever to write everything from scratch took advantage of the microkernel architecture and turned some BSD networking into a subsystem.
Incidentally, using BSD licenced code in this way is not 'taking advantage of' in the negative sence that that phrase implies, but it is making use of it in the way the programmers intended. They have also given back many improvments they have made, something that is not required with the BSD licence.
Are you suggesting that they don't?
no English word
Thats not quite true. While there is no word that very narrowly means the rough indeterminant amount of time, day does have one of those meanings. For instance:
"In my grandfathers day, they didn't have to have locks on their door's."
Now what day was this? Nov 12. 1938? No it was just a vague period of time characterized by a similar set of events. So in Genesis, where it says, "..and on the sixth day he created man," this does not have to refer to a single 24h period of time, but the indeterminant period of mans creation. So day is infact a very correct translation.
Care to elaborate or are you just repeating what you heard from someone, somewhere, once.
Final Fantasy is less of a series and more like a sub-genre, which is what makes it popular. Much like reading books from the same author or specific subject, you have an idea what its about but you don't know the specifics, its familiar and new at the same time.
I believe that its the other way around. Its based on MySQL and used for things of this nature. I think that I saw it on MySQL's site before the SAP deal, but I could be wrong on both counts.
I read the article, and it sounded like they were ditching the Aptiva line, as in desktop PC's, not the thinkpad or workstation lines.