A parody is something that pokes fun at the various commonalities of something in a humorous way. It's a original work that makes fun of another original work.
This is someone trying to make a business, and copying the look and feel of another, popular entry in the same arena, slightly changing the name and logo, and then wondering why it's getting in trouble.
Imagine if Pepsi made a new drink called 'Bolt.' It's logo is a large, yellow, metal bolt. That just happens to be be bent a little in the middle. And it's got a whole ton of caffiene. Would that be a 'parody' of Coke's Jolt cola?
I agree. 11Gig? Hell, my entire CD collection takes up 6 gig in Ogg Vorbis audio at ~111kbps, and thats WEEKS of audio. Weeks. Who needs over 4 gigs for a device with batteries that last a few hours, tops?
Who uses over a gig of music in the average day, and if so how much of that is music you will never listen to? AFAIK, most people just grab a few songs from the collection that catch their eye, drag em to the iPod mount, and run off. For that, 4 gigs is almost too much itself, IMHO. I mean, really. Who wants to sort through 200 albums on your iPod just to find that one song you want to listen to?
Of course, if I could get a small, cheap mp3^Wvorbis audio player, even with only 2 gig or so, that'd last for a good 10 hours or so, I'd be happy, so what do I know?:)
So why not have the hiberate function unmount the USB device when called, and attempt to remount it on return?
Not as 'clean' as one would hope, but it would serve the purpose. I'd assume it would require some userland, but then so does Udev, and that's not stopping anyone.;)
Frankly, you must admit There's a limit to what you can stuff inside a CD. I really like the KDE desktop myself, but I understand the choice that has been made.
This isn't about if he has the right or not. It's about him claiming it's open, when it is not. This is a reference distro, not RedHat or anything. Their choices are done to make a de facto standard, and exclusion from this makes something 'non-standard.' So for the most popular desktop in the Free software world to be excluded from a 'standard' is not keeping it open, and is locking them out.
Or are you ready to fight for all other desktop environments out there to be included in UserLinux ?
In a reference distro that's meant to be a 'standard' for others to make their distributions against?
Second, in these meticulous calculations, where do record stores come in? Manufacturing costs? Advertising?
Advertising? Manufacture? Well, ya see, that 8 cents... it's kinda not the artist's...
Yep, all the costs of making, producing, and selling the album are covered by the artist. Great deal, eh?
Record stores'll grab 2$ off the top. They don't figure into here because they will take their cut at the register, independant of the other payouts. When people talk about how much people make per CD, they're talking 'points', or percentage points on all the revenue on the album. Thus, ~8 cents, ~etc cents. The variance doesn't come into account on the artist's end because they hang out in the lower end of the scale, geting roughly 8 points between the entire band. (Most albums will have 200-250 points a song, 8 to the 'artists' of which 2 points go to the writer, 2-4 for the management and producer, and the rest going to the band to split. It's been awhile since I've looked these up, so my figures may be off slightly.)
Considering your trying to make a 'standard' that has GNOME as it's only GUI, for how long would that hold true?
I'm not saying this as some KDE zealot. Truth be told, I've not installed the desktop in at least a year. My enviroment of choice is ROX. There isn't a distro alive that includes it as default. (Yet;) ) But your group isn't open to everyone. Only GNOME distros and users. How can you possibly view that as not locking out a large segment of the user base? Expectally outside the US?
I'm not saying I don't see why you do it, and I'm not saying you don't have a right to do it, but you have to call a spade a spade. KDE users are locked out.
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You can buy CDs of FreeBSD, Debian, et al.. All Free OSes. Paying money for those are not a bad thing, they are very good things. They help fund the future of all those projects.
I say if people want to pay and let someone include closed software, let them use these distros for a few years. Let them get used to sending money to good distros now, so they'll continue to do so when they find a OS that is Free and free.
OK, SVG and XML files are not programs. 'This program' is not Free software, because it's not a bloody program.
That's like me saying 'this MS Word file is free software.' Or 'this PNG is free software.' It's not even logical.
Use a CreativeCommons license, which is actually for artwork/data/etc, fine. But trying to call a SVG file a program... Don't you think that's just a tad bit of a reach?
I know I just woke up, but wtf should Microsoft dish our for another company's product... ... Because they lost a court case?
I mean, I know people have short attention spans, but wasn't this case about MS giving back money they were found to have obtained in a illicit manner? To paraphrase, wtf shouldn't Microsoft dish money it's legally required to pay, to the place the injured party sees fit?
I wanted to try GNUMail.app. I compiled it. I installed it... And I had no idea how to run it.
Reading the docs, apparently I'm supposed to run 'make' to make the app run, from the app's directory or something... I don't know, because the documentation was just so vague, or I just wasn't able to find the right docs. It was about there I just said, 'meh, I've got Sylpheed.';)
Maybe it's the most amazing thing ever, but I've just never seen them do anything new and interesting enough to make me want to figure out what it is, let alone how to use it. They really should have some people pointing out why it's better, assuming it is.
Actually, ROX borrows pretty liberally from RiscOS. (It actually stands for RiscOS On X);)
I've never given it a try with a remote X session, but I'd assume it'd be fine. The Filer app is fairly light, and you can fine-tune it to show only a sparce amount.
But the neat thing that I'm planning to try is basically you could chain drags ala terminal commands. Before saving, drag it to the spell checker, then drag that's output to the auto-indenter, opps need to change a name, drag it to a sed app, then name and save that. You could use a number of small apps to do things, instead of the all-in-ones we seem to see most X desktops going to lately.
Perhaps, but if we're talking about highly-technical people, I dont' see what the difference between a simple list of locations versus a XML list of those same locations has. Just seems it would be extra encapsilation that would be unneeded, IMHO.
Oh well, let them do what they want as long as they make it easier for someone, eh?;)
Nothing says "KISS" like a XML file to configure the **** out'a the file selector.
If you want to see real KISS, check out ROX-Desktop. A DnD item with a filename under it, save by dragging it to your filer. Open by draggin the file from the filer to the app. A file manager manages the files, so you don't have a dialog trying to cram all it's functionality into it.
Don't make things browse to network shares. Make networked things look like file systems to the tools available. Same idea, only with less recoding, and as such a smaller point-of-break.:)
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A parody is something that pokes fun at the various commonalities of something in a humorous way. It's a original work that makes fun of another original work.
This is someone trying to make a business, and copying the look and feel of another, popular entry in the same arena, slightly changing the name and logo, and then wondering why it's getting in trouble.
Imagine if Pepsi made a new drink called 'Bolt.' It's logo is a large, yellow, metal bolt. That just happens to be be bent a little in the middle. And it's got a whole ton of caffiene. Would that be a 'parody' of Coke's Jolt cola?
I agree. 11Gig? Hell, my entire CD collection takes up 6 gig in Ogg Vorbis audio at ~111kbps, and thats WEEKS of audio. Weeks. Who needs over 4 gigs for a device with batteries that last a few hours, tops?
:)
Who uses over a gig of music in the average day, and if so how much of that is music you will never listen to? AFAIK, most people just grab a few songs from the collection that catch their eye, drag em to the iPod mount, and run off. For that, 4 gigs is almost too much itself, IMHO. I mean, really. Who wants to sort through 200 albums on your iPod just to find that one song you want to listen to?
Of course, if I could get a small, cheap mp3^Wvorbis audio player, even with only 2 gig or so, that'd last for a good 10 hours or so, I'd be happy, so what do I know?
So why not have the hiberate function unmount the USB device when called, and attempt to remount it on return?
;)
Not as 'clean' as one would hope, but it would serve the purpose. I'd assume it would require some userland, but then so does Udev, and that's not stopping anyone.
Frankly, you must admit There's a limit to what you can stuff inside a CD. I really like the KDE desktop myself, but I understand the choice that has been made.
This isn't about if he has the right or not. It's about him claiming it's open, when it is not. This is a reference distro, not RedHat or anything. Their choices are done to make a de facto standard, and exclusion from this makes something 'non-standard.' So for the most popular desktop in the Free software world to be excluded from a 'standard' is not keeping it open, and is locking them out.
Or are you ready to fight for all other desktop environments out there to be included in UserLinux ?
In a reference distro that's meant to be a 'standard' for others to make their distributions against?
You'd better believe I would.
Second, in these meticulous calculations, where do record stores come in? Manufacturing costs? Advertising?
Advertising? Manufacture? Well, ya see, that 8 cents... it's kinda not the artist's...
Yep, all the costs of making, producing, and selling the album are covered by the artist. Great deal, eh?
Record stores'll grab 2$ off the top. They don't figure into here because they will take their cut at the register, independant of the other payouts. When people talk about how much people make per CD, they're talking 'points', or percentage points on all the revenue on the album. Thus, ~8 cents, ~etc cents. The variance doesn't come into account on the artist's end because they hang out in the lower end of the scale, geting roughly 8 points between the entire band. (Most albums will have 200-250 points a song, 8 to the 'artists' of which 2 points go to the writer, 2-4 for the management and producer, and the rest going to the band to split. It's been awhile since I've looked these up, so my figures may be off slightly.)
Considering your trying to make a 'standard' that has GNOME as it's only GUI, for how long would that hold true?
;) ) But your group isn't open to everyone. Only GNOME distros and users. How can you possibly view that as not locking out a large segment of the user base? Expectally outside the US?
I'm not saying this as some KDE zealot. Truth be told, I've not installed the desktop in at least a year. My enviroment of choice is ROX. There isn't a distro alive that includes it as default. (Yet
I'm not saying I don't see why you do it, and I'm not saying you don't have a right to do it, but you have to call a spade a spade. KDE users are locked out.
... Unless you use KDE.
The other signs?
Employee lounge now located in Darl's mom's basement
Office parking lot now charges by the hour
"Computers? But they're so slow, costly and inefficent. Surely you can just... memorize things."
Darl McBride, SCO CEO... And CFO, COO, CTO, C-
Press releases now being released via telepathy
Say it with me, Free != free.
You can buy CDs of FreeBSD, Debian, et al.. All Free OSes. Paying money for those are not a bad thing, they are very good things. They help fund the future of all those projects.
I say if people want to pay and let someone include closed software, let them use these distros for a few years. Let them get used to sending money to good distros now, so they'll continue to do so when they find a OS that is Free and free.
Linux for the Nokia nGage?
Never happen. Someone'd has to buy a n'gage first.
Hey, go easy on 'em, they could be from SCO...
On second thought..
Ka-te Ro-se.
Fits phonetically as a Japanese name. Perhaps not the most common Japanese name, but it could be one if one so desired.
It makes me wonder why the other large media corps weren't "singled out" as well.
We shouldn't just be looking at ClearChannel, but also Infinity Media and the others.
But no one could have, as the code itself was too tied to licensed technology IIRC.
Wait, so it's litigious bastards, right?
But would it work if it were litigious bastards? Or is it only litigious bastards?
Oh well. litigious bastards or litigious bastards, I'm sure one works.
I mean, those litigious bastards, if I leave the www off their name, and start calling them litigious bastards, maybe that could arouse their anger...
Meh, what are they gonna do. Sue me?
OK, SVG and XML files are not programs. 'This program' is not Free software, because it's not a bloody program.
That's like me saying 'this MS Word file is free software.' Or 'this PNG is free software.' It's not even logical.
Use a CreativeCommons license, which is actually for artwork/data/etc, fine. But trying to call a SVG file a program... Don't you think that's just a tad bit of a reach?
I know I just woke up, but wtf should Microsoft dish our for another company's product... ... Because they lost a court case?
I mean, I know people have short attention spans, but wasn't this case about MS giving back money they were found to have obtained in a illicit manner? To paraphrase, wtf shouldn't Microsoft dish money it's legally required to pay, to the place the injured party sees fit?
Arch Linux has had 2.6.0 in it's repos for awhile now.
Still works for me with my cameras in 2.6.0. Make sure you have SCSI support compiled in the kernel, and the right USB chipset support.
I'll go you one better.
;)
I wanted to try GNUMail.app. I compiled it. I installed it... And I had no idea how to run it.
Reading the docs, apparently I'm supposed to run 'make' to make the app run, from the app's directory or something... I don't know, because the documentation was just so vague, or I just wasn't able to find the right docs. It was about there I just said, 'meh, I've got Sylpheed.'
Maybe it's the most amazing thing ever, but I've just never seen them do anything new and interesting enough to make me want to figure out what it is, let alone how to use it. They really should have some people pointing out why it's better, assuming it is.
Actually, ROX borrows pretty liberally from RiscOS. (It actually stands for RiscOS On X) ;)
I've never given it a try with a remote X session, but I'd assume it'd be fine. The Filer app is fairly light, and you can fine-tune it to show only a sparce amount.
But the neat thing that I'm planning to try is basically you could chain drags ala terminal commands. Before saving, drag it to the spell checker, then drag that's output to the auto-indenter, opps need to change a name, drag it to a sed app, then name and save that. You could use a number of small apps to do things, instead of the all-in-ones we seem to see most X desktops going to lately.
Perhaps, but if we're talking about highly-technical people, I dont' see what the difference between a simple list of locations versus a XML list of those same locations has. Just seems it would be extra encapsilation that would be unneeded, IMHO.
;)
Oh well, let them do what they want as long as they make it easier for someone, eh?
Nothing says "KISS" like a XML file to configure the **** out'a the file selector.
If you want to see real KISS, check out ROX-Desktop. A DnD item with a filename under it, save by dragging it to your filer. Open by draggin the file from the filer to the app. A file manager manages the files, so you don't have a dialog trying to cram all it's functionality into it.
Why not AVFS?
:)
Don't make things browse to network shares. Make networked things look like file systems to the tools available. Same idea, only with less recoding, and as such a smaller point-of-break.
New in 2004? Viriil Virii verbage.