How long does it take to teach someone how to use e-mail, once they know how to use the hardware and the operating system? Oh, five minutes maybe. Word processing? Thirty minutes. Keyboard and mouse? Gee, mice are designed to be EASY to use and keyboards -- well, keyboards are pretty standard and nothing new, having been used on typewriters for over a hundred years.
And I never said to cut back on English or mathematics (except maybe, now come to think of it, to get rid of the stuff from math that's even more useless than you claim Unix usership to be, i.e. two-column proofs). Rather, I said that the basics of Unix should be taught. If all people can use is Windows, the first time they run into a Mac (probably in college, but maybe later) they'll crap their pants. Heaven forbid they actually encounter a Linux box.
And one more thing I forgot to add, sorry for the second post, folks.
What is a pen, if not technology? You don't just point at a paper and THINK the words down onto it. You use an advanced tool.
Well, to put it frankly, if we had more decent coders, there'd be a chance we'd have better software. And if we taught people how to design cars, we'd have better cars.
Blanket luddism is no more the answer than computer education that may really amount to patronising mandatory Google training and forced memorization of IRC slang and the BASIC code for "Hello World."
Pens and paper, for all the good press they get on Slashdot from people who think Luddism is cool, are hopelessly ineffective, particularly for those with hopelessly illegible handwriting, obsessive-compulsive notetakers, the disabled, and other populations who are worse off with paper.
Because, maybe, just MAYBE every noteworthy operating system except one is some form of Unix?
If you know how to use Unix, you are capable of working efficiently with Linux (more and more common every day!) and can do more with Mac OS X, something a lot (not a plurality, but still a noteworthy quantity) of seventh graders have at home.
My opinion is that every child should, by high school graduation, be capable of efficiently working --including scripting, and maybe programming-- in Windows, Mac OS X, and a more standard *nix such as Linux or Solaris.
I'm not a ham, but I agree. A minor obstacle is usually a good thing -- while we're at it, why not go over to the OpenOffice CVS and take out the "Are you sure you want to exit without saving your spreadsheet?" dialog?
Like the AC said, it's only the start.
And it's MEANT to look like AI 2, as the hook. Then people realize it's Big Blue, especially the suits. Noone ever got fired for buying from IBM, you know.
Well, the fact that Linus owns Linux as a registered trademark would prevent any kernel forks from actually CALLING THEMSELVES Linux, but that wouldn't stop Joe from calling it Linux if he wanted to.
MUCH AGREED. KazaaLite is clearly crooked, and Kazaa is a piece of junk full of adware and spyware. My advice -- use open source software for filesharing, so you can scan over at least the filenames and comments of the sourcecode, or don't use P2P fileshare networks in the first place.
Sadly the case. Dormatory network connections are --let's face it-- used heavily for gaming et cetera. And let's face another thing. MANY people won't be happy with the games available for Mac OS X or for Linux. In an enterprise or government environment, there isn't FPS gaming going on, so a Linux transition is MUCH easier.
...pretentious apathetic-reductionistic opinion, but...
The guy's invested time and money, and they've fleeced him by their negligence of backups. He has a right to complain.
Windows is all well and good for the kind of stuff that it's made for...word processing, e-mail, web client, gaming, and the like.
However, there should NEVER be any kind of connection between a Windows box and the mission-critical systems of a power plant. Heck, as far as I'm concerned, Windows shouldn't REALLY be used for Web servers, because that's a Unix job, and I'd suggest HP-UX, Linux, *BSD, or Mac OS X. Some operating systems (Windows, Mac Classic, BeOS, probably certain graphics-etc-oriented Unices) just aren't suited to high-demand or mission-critical servers.
Agreed.
Vietnam was a particularly messy situation, but really, it wasn't that different from Korea except that it was mismanaged and it was the only war the US ever lost.
I think a Gulf War II game is inappropriate for one reason, and one reason only: it hasn't been over long enough to be considered history, as opposed to current events; indeed, the weekly death toll would lead me to believe that is is persisting.
Much agreed. I am not Jewish, but I still abstain from attempting to use the Tetragrammation, because:
(1) The use thereof is offensive to many people
(2) We do not know how it is pronounced, so Romanizing it (rather than translating it to God with a capital "G") is futile.
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How long does it take to teach someone how to use e-mail, once they know how to use the hardware and the operating system? Oh, five minutes maybe. Word processing? Thirty minutes. Keyboard and mouse? Gee, mice are designed to be EASY to use and keyboards -- well, keyboards are pretty standard and nothing new, having been used on typewriters for over a hundred years. And I never said to cut back on English or mathematics (except maybe, now come to think of it, to get rid of the stuff from math that's even more useless than you claim Unix usership to be, i.e. two-column proofs). Rather, I said that the basics of Unix should be taught. If all people can use is Windows, the first time they run into a Mac (probably in college, but maybe later) they'll crap their pants. Heaven forbid they actually encounter a Linux box.
And one more thing I forgot to add, sorry for the second post, folks. What is a pen, if not technology? You don't just point at a paper and THINK the words down onto it. You use an advanced tool.
Well, to put it frankly, if we had more decent coders, there'd be a chance we'd have better software. And if we taught people how to design cars, we'd have better cars.
Blanket luddism is no more the answer than computer education that may really amount to patronising mandatory Google training and forced memorization of IRC slang and the BASIC code for "Hello World." Pens and paper, for all the good press they get on Slashdot from people who think Luddism is cool, are hopelessly ineffective, particularly for those with hopelessly illegible handwriting, obsessive-compulsive notetakers, the disabled, and other populations who are worse off with paper.
Because, maybe, just MAYBE every noteworthy operating system except one is some form of Unix? If you know how to use Unix, you are capable of working efficiently with Linux (more and more common every day!) and can do more with Mac OS X, something a lot (not a plurality, but still a noteworthy quantity) of seventh graders have at home.
My opinion is that every child should, by high school graduation, be capable of efficiently working --including scripting, and maybe programming-- in Windows, Mac OS X, and a more standard *nix such as Linux or Solaris.
Probably not, sadly; iBooks have very good battery life.
I'm not a ham, but I agree. A minor obstacle is usually a good thing -- while we're at it, why not go over to the OpenOffice CVS and take out the "Are you sure you want to exit without saving your spreadsheet?" dialog?
Who needs more greyhats running around testing security without so much as permission?
Like the AC said, it's only the start. And it's MEANT to look like AI 2, as the hook. Then people realize it's Big Blue, especially the suits. Noone ever got fired for buying from IBM, you know.
Well, the fact that Linus owns Linux as a registered trademark would prevent any kernel forks from actually CALLING THEMSELVES Linux, but that wouldn't stop Joe from calling it Linux if he wanted to.
You can sell your books back to the bookstore when you're done with them. You get money, the bookstore gets used books to sell at reduced price.
MUCH AGREED. KazaaLite is clearly crooked, and Kazaa is a piece of junk full of adware and spyware. My advice -- use open source software for filesharing, so you can scan over at least the filenames and comments of the sourcecode, or don't use P2P fileshare networks in the first place.
Burst vs. Microsoft? Microsoft is the defendant, not the plaintiff.
...it is in my power to imagine a Beowulf, or indeed any large-scale cluster, of G5's...I'm overloaded.
Sadly the case. Dormatory network connections are --let's face it-- used heavily for gaming et cetera. And let's face another thing. MANY people won't be happy with the games available for Mac OS X or for Linux. In an enterprise or government environment, there isn't FPS gaming going on, so a Linux transition is MUCH easier.
...pretentious apathetic-reductionistic opinion, but... The guy's invested time and money, and they've fleeced him by their negligence of backups. He has a right to complain.
We use optical scan here in Nebraska, and we don't seem to have much trouble.
Windows is all well and good for the kind of stuff that it's made for...word processing, e-mail, web client, gaming, and the like. However, there should NEVER be any kind of connection between a Windows box and the mission-critical systems of a power plant. Heck, as far as I'm concerned, Windows shouldn't REALLY be used for Web servers, because that's a Unix job, and I'd suggest HP-UX, Linux, *BSD, or Mac OS X. Some operating systems (Windows, Mac Classic, BeOS, probably certain graphics-etc-oriented Unices) just aren't suited to high-demand or mission-critical servers.
Agreed. Vietnam was a particularly messy situation, but really, it wasn't that different from Korea except that it was mismanaged and it was the only war the US ever lost. I think a Gulf War II game is inappropriate for one reason, and one reason only: it hasn't been over long enough to be considered history, as opposed to current events; indeed, the weekly death toll would lead me to believe that is is persisting.
I agree. Frankly, I'd love to see more historical games set in Biblical Israel etc. Or an Acts of the Apostles RPG. Yum.
Much agreed. I am not Jewish, but I still abstain from attempting to use the Tetragrammation, because: (1) The use thereof is offensive to many people (2) We do not know how it is pronounced, so Romanizing it (rather than translating it to God with a capital "G") is futile.
And if you can't get a job in business, try to get into higher ed.
I can actually get ancient software (or even only as old as Riven) to run better on my G3 iBook than my 2.4 GHz P4 Dell with XP and Mandrake.
I still call 'em that. Indeed, I've lowercased it, and when someone asks me what a PDA is, I say "A palmpilot."