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This is not really "sharing".
What if the song i squirt is under creative commons or other licenses? Does it feel nice that MS can decide if the music one decided to give out for free can be shared or not? Does one have to release music under gpl3?
Or for RIAA infected music, can I consider the copy on the zune a backup or am I fscked if the only copy of one track resides on the zune and it can't be retrieved?
It's more a case of "since ninety-nine percent of the people using this website cannot read this, it has no merit here.", which seems perfectly sensible.
It seems perfectly sensible but for one crucial detail:
> Hey, I can put Windows on a machine, and watch a movie after it is installed.
Even better, You can go watch a movie while windows is installing.
> Can't do that with Linux, now, can you?
I guess that either ubuntu studio or other multimedia oriented distros offer proprietary codecs playback out of the box, so the short answer is "you can". The long answer is: getting a completely free OS and application stack and then deciding if/what proprietary stuff to add is quite educative. If you want a blissfully easy desktop pc experience why are you on windows? get a mac.
IIRC Microsoft issued statements about patents on FAT FS years after its adoption for flash media. Calm waters now mean nothing. Like Novell working on drivers does not mean they are up to something. Anyway if I could have everything under GPLv3 I'd feel better.
I am not blaming anyone in particular. But that doesn't change the fact that DU is used in airplanes and weapons and that it's not a good idea, as iraq and yugoslavia are going to show.
> The geological disposal of radioactive waste - such as Yucca Mountain - is paid for, in the cost of nuclear electricity.
So for example diposing of Caorso power plant and its remaining waste oughta be already paid for in the cost of nuclear electricity. Only a local problem? we'll see.
About terrorism, I'm not imagining anything: the media talk of dirty nuclear bombs are, so ask them.
I'll equate nuclear fission energy to other forms of energy when somebody finally releases the true figures of the cost per kW/h.
They must include the expenses for keeping nuclear waste in safety from leaks, terrorism and international crime, the expenses to cure people when depleted uranium is dumped into the environment during wars and so on.
Basically we are betting the safety of the planet on the assumption that future generations will find tech to render radiation harmless AND that this tech won't be used to enslave people (in a polluted world the ones with that tech decide who lives and who doesn't).
I think better try fusion, or even recreate what Nikola Tesla did. At least we know it's already been done once.
> If we were stuck on a gold or silver standard, we'd be in real trouble: there just isn't that much gold or silver around to make a a very good currency.
Besides getting back to a gold or silver backed standard would involve getting back it from the banks, which is not easy to do without committing injustice.
Another thing that I consider important is: through fractional reserve banking flows of money that "isn't there" are created. It's not a US-only problem. It's something that started centuries ago with modern banking. Those are weapons that seems to be used not only to increase the banks power, but to create a philosophy of life that justifies the situation. Managers now resort to financing successful enterprise to further improve their position. Win, win, win. Except that if everybody does that, the only winner are the banks. They can decide who gets financed under which terms. In a society where everything has been monetized (another facet of that philosophy above) the inferior enterprise with proper financing will win no matter what.
And the system buries these dynamics under multiple strata of ideology (i.e. complacent economic theories, media hyping discussions about whatever has no effect on how money and debt flows, mistaking this arbitrary process with "progress" and so on) and doesn't stress out a simple fact: money is fairly omnipotent, virtual, anonymous and travel at the light of speed. It is a weapon in the hands of who? Behind all this banking system people see conspiracies and secret societies... but this banking system IS the conspiracy. Whoever is behind it is a side issue.
Why is everyone so concerned about a company having their URL history? I mean, they already have your searches(google), your email(gmail) and your documents(google docs), what does it matter?
Why is everyone so concerned about criminal activities online? they already deal with drugs, arms, extortion, waste recycling...
But you didn't mess up the phone. Apple is telling you THEY might. Besides, i expect a 50$ dvd player to be brickified by a failed firmware update, not a top of the line phone from a leader like Apple.
> Actually, according to many economists, accumulation of wealth is a bad thing for any economy...
Nevermind that reasoning has some lil holes (like working = a good thing, which is not an absolute value, see "otium" in Roman and Greek culture) but stopping the accumulation of wealth could be done without hurting money. Think taxes, limits to property laws, money that expire after some time so it must be put back in the economy.
What is happening now is that an arbitrary accumulation of wealth permitted by fractional reserve and banks lending money to each other is seen as a way to stop accumulation of wealth of the private.
> Web developers are going to have to get used to it.
They have already gotten used to it. Checking sites on IE vs. a proper browser.
What I don't understand is how a tool controlled by vodafone which renders a page in a potentially non standard and undisclosed way would be the way to get used to. Maybe I misunderstood you?
> Most people (apart from the saintly) want money!
Nope, people want what they are told money can buy. It's the system at power that makes sure that the only way you can achieve your dreams is through money, and it did it in two ways. Hollywood on one side, communism on the other (and we fall for the non sequitur that the only alternative to the system at power is a system with no property at all)
In the process they stripped money of its core value: being something that makes wealth easily kept and converted. Inflation makes sure you have to trot all your life to accumulate paper. Or, you choose to be the kapo of the system, and accumulate more wealth subjugating your peers. The lucky ones who are good and smart enough to accumulate wealth in a honest way are shrinking.
> It's taken long enough Yep, From what I hear if we stop looking at bad pirates and watch the other side, at least in italy, we see:
- Tunes cloned and legally sold and protected in other market ("Sono bugiardo" by caterina caselli, already in the 50ies) - Ditto for tunes copied from traditional music. - errors in attribution to authors (you missed an accent writing down the playlist? performing rights society won't pay you, it'll put the proceedings into the "unknown" tunes which are split to all authors in unequal shares so old big authors earn even more than they deserve
now we see - non sequitur in estimating damages from piracy (one pirated tune != one less CD sold) - terrorism in lawsuits involving 5 and 80 years old - pushing people to break the law by fake p2p servers - other people's computer compromised
Some animals are more equal than others, it seems.
Think about being a l'aptop dealer: you get unbundled laptops and windows OS licenses. what do you do?
A - sell the laptops as is and wait for clueless customers to call back in an angry mood, or
B - put a free linux cd together with the laptops ordered without the windows option?
What if the linux cd doesn't work well with the hardware, you say? I say that if Microsoft is not allowed to strongarm hardware makers anymore we will see hardware which is easier to get to work under linux, like friggin old hardware was before linux became serious competition, or like pro hardware is (how come hardware raid on alpha is easier to set up then some wireless cards on an intel?)
Having your own hw/sw ecosystem is different from lock-in, so I'd agree with you but only for the latest developments with the ipod, closing back the kernel, getting rid of openfirmware (which booted linux very fine even from firewire which is cool) and some not very nice behavior in the past (like sherlock being a rip off of some 3rd party apps with no recognition).
Apple seems like Fiat: a good model, then years towards bankrupcy, then another model that saves the day, then back to sleep. The one time a model doesn't save the day, they're toast. Pity they don't share the same "let's take over the world" attitude of evil microsoft.
Well but how the linked list ever got patented? Methods, processes or however they call what they patent are kind of broadly defined algorithms- which is even worse.
Well personally speaking I lost him when he said "bad guys wandered around mindlessly..."
This guy never met crush roller's bad guys, nor the little ufo in asteroids, nor witnessed some enemies xevious drop their bombs and flee - well trying to.
Of course one might object those bad guys movements have nothing to do with AI. They're just programmed well enough to be fun. Sure thing, but that's exactly what counts: being fun to play. If the game makes you stick your tongue out and sweat, you have long forgotten the realism of the water, you're just having fun.
> I really don't understand what effects this proposed tweak to the patent system will have.
Favoring the big corps against small companies. Never mind if the small company is a patent troll or not.
Let's say a guy finds a killer algorithm to speed up data mining. Big corp selling data mining software can gobble it up. Guy can't sell any data mining competing software because I'm infringing 800 silly patents (double linked lists and stuff).
Only cure for the patent system: no silly patents. Difficult to find a metric for silliness but we are not remotely trying. What about "whatever patent a team of students can find a similar solution for in 3 months (summer-of-code style) can't be used to prevent deployment and improvement of the newfound alternative solution"?. If the solution is identical to the patent, patent is revoked, if not they can use copyright to defend the patent especially if it performs better, yet they don't prevent other people to do their silly things.
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This is not really "sharing".
What if the song i squirt is under creative commons or other licenses? Does it feel nice that MS can decide if the music one decided to give out for free can be shared or not? Does one have to release music under gpl3?
Or for RIAA infected music, can I consider the copy on the zune a backup or am I fscked if the only copy of one track resides on the zune and it can't be retrieved?
> ...ever since Sun decided that MS's version was making the performance on other platforms look bad and decided to kill it by suing MS...
What ground there was for suing if MS version were compliant to java specs and just faster? None, I guess.
Could it be Sun thwarted an attempt to embrace and extend, instead?
If MS just made a faster VM Sun might have even been happy. Let users on the measly PC have fun while they think about big biz on big boxii.
It seems perfectly sensible but for one crucial detail:
"'Tis is Slashdot: we don't RTFA here!"
> Hey, I can put Windows on a machine, and watch a movie after it is installed.
Even better, You can go watch a movie while windows is installing.
> Can't do that with Linux, now, can you?
I guess that either ubuntu studio or other multimedia oriented distros offer proprietary codecs playback out of the box, so the short answer is "you can".
The long answer is: getting a completely free OS and application stack and then deciding if/what proprietary stuff to add is quite educative. If you want a blissfully easy desktop pc experience why are you on windows? get a mac.
Nice to see you're proud Windows is made in your country. I'm proud it's not made in mine.
> It's been quite a while now since the deal...
IIRC Microsoft issued statements about patents on FAT FS years after its adoption for flash media. Calm waters now mean nothing. Like Novell working on drivers does not mean they are up to something. Anyway if I could have everything under GPLv3 I'd feel better.
I am not blaming anyone in particular. But that doesn't change the fact that DU is used in airplanes and weapons and that it's not a good idea, as iraq and yugoslavia are going to show.
> The geological disposal of radioactive waste - such as Yucca Mountain - is paid for, in the cost of nuclear electricity.
So for example diposing of Caorso power plant and its remaining waste oughta be already paid for in the cost of nuclear electricity. Only a local problem? we'll see.
About terrorism, I'm not imagining anything: the media talk of dirty nuclear bombs are, so ask them.
So your not hyperbolic scenario in a future world full of radioactive waste is?
indeed.
I'll equate nuclear fission energy to other forms of energy when somebody finally releases the true figures of the cost per kW/h.
They must include the expenses for keeping nuclear waste in safety from leaks, terrorism and international crime, the expenses to cure people when depleted uranium is dumped into the environment during wars and so on.
Basically we are betting the safety of the planet on the assumption that future generations will find tech to render radiation harmless AND that this tech won't be used to enslave people (in a polluted world the ones with that tech decide who lives and who doesn't).
I think better try fusion, or even recreate what Nikola Tesla did. At least we know it's already been done once.
> If we were stuck on a gold or silver standard, we'd be in real trouble: there just isn't that much gold or silver around to make a a very good currency.
But the present situation is not the only solution. Think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit
Besides getting back to a gold or silver backed standard would involve getting back it from the banks, which is not easy to do without committing injustice.
Another thing that I consider important is: through fractional reserve banking flows of money that "isn't there" are created. It's not a US-only problem. It's something that started centuries ago with modern banking. Those are weapons that seems to be used not only to increase the banks power, but to create a philosophy of life that justifies the situation. Managers now resort to financing successful enterprise to further improve their position. Win, win, win. Except that if everybody does that, the only winner are the banks. They can decide who gets financed under which terms. In a society where everything has been monetized (another facet of that philosophy above) the inferior enterprise with proper financing will win no matter what.
And the system buries these dynamics under multiple strata of ideology (i.e. complacent economic theories, media hyping discussions about whatever has no effect on how money and debt flows, mistaking this arbitrary process with "progress" and so on) and doesn't stress out a simple fact: money is fairly omnipotent, virtual, anonymous and travel at the light of speed. It is a weapon in the hands of who? Behind all this banking system people see conspiracies and secret societies... but this banking system IS the conspiracy. Whoever is behind it is a side issue.
Why is everyone so concerned about criminal activities online? they already deal with drugs, arms, extortion, waste recycling...
> So all things considered, this really amounts to an Easter Egg.
You crazy? it's a display bug. What about all the cases when a human reads the result instead of a script of a graph?
Anyway If it were an easter egg it would be the most irresponsible idiocy ever conceived.
But you didn't mess up the phone. Apple is telling you THEY might. Besides, i expect a 50$ dvd player to be brickified by a failed firmware update, not a top of the line phone from a leader like Apple.
Apple wants to be dying again. I take note.
> Actually, according to many economists, accumulation of wealth is a bad thing for any economy...
Nevermind that reasoning has some lil holes (like working = a good thing, which is not an absolute value, see "otium" in Roman and Greek culture) but stopping the accumulation of wealth could be done without hurting money. Think taxes, limits to property laws, money that expire after some time so it must be put back in the economy.
What is happening now is that an arbitrary accumulation of wealth permitted by fractional reserve and banks lending money to each other is seen as a way to stop accumulation of wealth of the private.
> Web developers are going to have to get used to it.
They have already gotten used to it. Checking sites on IE vs. a proper browser.
What I don't understand is how a tool controlled by vodafone which renders a page in a potentially non standard and undisclosed way would be the way to get used to. Maybe I misunderstood you?
And if there ever was a time where an OS with few more features but a lot of optimization was going to badly hurt microsoft it was this one.
Not to mention many powerpc linux potential switchers.
> Most people (apart from the saintly) want money!
Nope, people want what they are told money can buy. It's the system at power that makes sure that the only way you can achieve your dreams is through money, and it did it in two ways. Hollywood on one side, communism on the other (and we fall for the non sequitur that the only alternative to the system at power is a system with no property at all)
In the process they stripped money of its core value: being something that makes wealth easily kept and converted. Inflation makes sure you have to trot all your life to accumulate paper. Or, you choose to be the kapo of the system, and accumulate more wealth subjugating your peers. The lucky ones who are good and smart enough to accumulate wealth in a honest way are shrinking.
> It's taken long enough
Yep, From what I hear if we stop looking at bad pirates and watch the other side, at least in italy, we see:
- Tunes cloned and legally sold and protected in other market ("Sono bugiardo" by caterina caselli, already in the 50ies)
- Ditto for tunes copied from traditional music.
- errors in attribution to authors (you missed an accent writing down the playlist? performing rights society won't pay you, it'll put the proceedings into the "unknown" tunes which are split to all authors in unequal shares so old big authors earn even more than they deserve
now we see
- non sequitur in estimating damages from piracy (one pirated tune != one less CD sold)
- terrorism in lawsuits involving 5 and 80 years old
- pushing people to break the law by fake p2p servers
- other people's computer compromised
Some animals are more equal than others, it seems.
Think about being a l'aptop dealer: you get unbundled laptops and windows OS licenses. what do you do?
A - sell the laptops as is and wait for clueless customers to call back in an angry mood, or
B - put a free linux cd together with the laptops ordered without the windows option?
What if the linux cd doesn't work well with the hardware, you say? I say that if Microsoft is not allowed to strongarm hardware makers anymore we will see hardware which is easier to get to work under linux, like friggin old hardware was before linux became serious competition, or like pro hardware is (how come hardware raid on alpha is easier to set up then some wireless cards on an intel?)
Having your own hw/sw ecosystem is different from lock-in, so I'd agree with you but only for the latest developments with the ipod, closing back the kernel, getting rid of openfirmware (which booted linux very fine even from firewire which is cool) and some not very nice behavior in the past (like sherlock being a rip off of some 3rd party apps with no recognition).
Apple seems like Fiat: a good model, then years towards bankrupcy, then another model that saves the day, then back to sleep. The one time a model doesn't save the day, they're toast. Pity they don't share the same "let's take over the world" attitude of evil microsoft.
Well but how the linked list ever got patented? Methods, processes or however they call what they patent are kind of broadly defined algorithms- which is even worse.
Well personally speaking I lost him when he said "bad guys wandered around mindlessly..."
This guy never met crush roller's bad guys, nor the little ufo in asteroids, nor witnessed some enemies xevious drop their bombs and flee - well trying to.
Of course one might object those bad guys movements have nothing to do with AI. They're just programmed well enough to be fun. Sure thing, but that's exactly what counts: being fun to play. If the game makes you stick your tongue out and sweat, you have long forgotten the realism of the water, you're just having fun.
> I really don't understand what effects this proposed tweak to the patent system will have.
Favoring the big corps against small companies. Never mind if the small company is a patent troll or not.
Let's say a guy finds a killer algorithm to speed up data mining. Big corp selling data mining software can gobble it up. Guy can't sell any data mining competing software because I'm infringing 800 silly patents (double linked lists and stuff).
Only cure for the patent system: no silly patents. Difficult to find a metric for silliness but we are not remotely trying. What about "whatever patent a team of students can find a similar solution for in 3 months (summer-of-code style) can't be used to prevent deployment and improvement of the newfound alternative solution"?. If the solution is identical to the patent, patent is revoked, if not they can use copyright to defend the patent especially if it performs better, yet they don't prevent other people to do their silly things.