For simple minds, it's KGB because an exotic poison like radioactive polonium seems kind of a signature it's no ordinary killing.
For smarty people, it couldn't be a KGB operation because KGB is not so stupid to poison people with exotic stuff when they have ways to make appear it an ordinary killing.
For chess playing soviet russia folks it could be a KGB operation because KGB could use the polonium as a too obvious link to make people think they're being framed while they're behind it all.
But, the odds are 50%. So I'd not point the finger at Putin so fast.
Hula wasn't yet able to compare to exchange, so what? Most succesful projects aren't able to compete with estabilished ones, until they're mature enough, and how can you prove this one would have been a failure? Also, Windows still can't compare to MacOS, yet it was succesful enough, I'd say.
It's pretty obvious what happened from the timing of the event.
Explain to me then, why is it so obvious and not just some random conspiracy theory ?
I'm no statistical expert, but call event A "Novell pwned by M$", call event B "Novell pulls devs from a project which is a direct competitor of M$ stuff". Now, armed with patience and google, calculate the probability of those events in meaningful time intervals (3 months?). Now calculate the compound probability of A and B in the same period. Very unlikely huh? A preceding B is half of it. Does it open your mind?
Your random conspiracy theory is called "cause and effect":)
the 8000+ years of civilization went down the drain with communism destroying the past and making people a tabula rasa starving for wealth, and capitalism offering wealth on the occidental model. Result? Let's see how the younger chinese generation turns out.
you are talking about an ideal patent system that work, so and ideally you're right.
But the system that allows to patent stupid things, to patent someone else's work, that prevent alternative clean-room implementations screws startups, so defending the patent system because ideally it could behave in the opposite way it does now seems quite curious to me.
I agree. I wanted to underline that even "church approved" NT books make for a "rebel" kind of christian. It was censored because the upper church didn't follow it, i presume.
I kinda missed the part where the Antikythera Mechanism creators abuse their monopoly, grow up in a market based on copyright and then push for patents, create a multimillion dollar market for security because of the holes in their software, puppet companies to spread FUD over better working alternatives...
(Trying not to recall again the smoking pile of crap MS Office preloaded on my 1997 mac was...)
I use firefox on linux and explorer on windows, so i keep well separate the OSS and the proprietary stacks, as features and stability go, Firefox has its share of bugs but stability and feature wise 1.5 was much better than ie6, so it would have to experience LOTS more problems if code quality were the same: on the other hand explorer couldn't be easily modularized as a separate component in the OS, w98 is said to be too difficult to keep updated from exploits (when open source people keep older kernel trees updated for people with old hardware), office presents UI errors which shareware authors on the mac would be ashamed of.
I guess good source code is there for.NET because they don't have a monopoly on internet frameworks.
Dunno how easily controllable would be the guy who follows closely Jesus teachings of the NT. Can't use money to control him. Can't use fear towards him nor his family. Can't tell him to do anything which is against the NT. You can sue him and take anything from him. But that's bad propaganda for you and good for him.
In fact christian faith has always needed to be badly bent to become a mean of control. Jesus guy saying like "beware when everybody speaks well about you because that's the way fake prophets were treated" implies christians being somewhat underground.
And Marx talked about Religion when he should have talked about Some religions, because it's the teaching that makes it more or less of an opiate, not the fact that it's a religion or other kind of beliefs- Thatbe was a gross mistake which goes unnoticed because his writings became object of cult, which kinda settles the score:)
To bring up another point: isn't that impractical to have the filters so upstream, at the internet carrier level? I mean maybe police should be able to bypass the filters for investigation purposes on abducted children. Probably they will, I guess.
Do you own property? Then you are not a Christian. "Give away everything you own, and follow me." And don't give me that "he was only saying that was what the guy he was talking to should do, not everybody"I don't think you got it. Not everybody, and not only that guy, see context:
Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
"Which ones?" the man inquired.
Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
"All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
"if you want to be perfect"... Anyway Jesus did ask, almost order, his closest followers like Peter to leave everything, and being rich has a negative connotation in the NT so we should take note. Anyway, at least this subthread has a discussion about the NT and not the usual groundless proclaim.
Such people are as much Christians as are scientists who believe the world is flat. Please do not judge us Christians by the actions of these radicals.They are not radicals. They are Trolls. How many people did Jesus H. Christ FORCE to follow him? Answer: none ever, in the NT. A forced conversion is no conversion. It even prevents a real conversion, for simple psychological reasons.
Marx was right in about everything but the remedies, anyway sport is an opiate too because of hooligans. Politics because of political terrorism. Nationalism because of nationalist terrorism. Cars because of a55holes shooting people in the fast lane. Slashdot because of the endless flames.
What about we are a little more precise and say that the problem is the lack of respect for other people instead?
It was pretty much developed from scratch. The code from Spyglass was pretty useless
Still, it was a working implementation. You're saying the code was so poor that even people accustomed to work with microsoft code (same microsoft who can't modularize a browser into an OS:) ) couldn't do much with it? Ain't that a lil' hard to believe?
Maybe because the Bible says "Thou shalt not kill?".
(Now some genius usually comes up with different part of the Books where killing is encouraged. Well I can speak only for christians but the guy said he came to fullfill the law. So it needed fullfilment. So all things in the bible are not orthogonally important. But Moses tablets and the speech of Jesus seem quite important to me, what do you say?)
Your scenario is like blaming math because a corrupt accountant steals money.
I don't care how much better IE was compared to mosaic or what it was. It still was based on that so it wasn't starting from scratch.
What the book said was a the tale of microsoft being late and quick to develop an alternative, but it wasn't developed from scratch so the whole point of the book was moot for that example, and since the writer seems less informed than slashdot regulars like me, I guess I'll keep reading comments here instead of buying his book:D
> Most open source database products, including MySQL, seem to require quite a bit of digging and cobbling together to set up and maintain.
Not on linux IMO. Of course if the windows port of postgres used to require, IIRC, cygwin it's not really a db fault is it? Never had problems with a couple of local and remote installation of Postgres. And the fcgi app connecting to it survives live updates of the OS and the db code.
>Microsoft SQL Server has fantastic tool support, no command line experimentation required.
Well I won't ever doubt it. My support tool is a mailing list which is not fine for enterprise.
A command line tool is very welcome, for example when depl oying to a shared server which needs the ram for the daemons, not for pretty GUI apps. Also, autocompletion and help of psql seems adequate to me. I often prefer it to firing up the GUI tool.
> An experienced DBA can set up a new installation in a couple of minutes.
Under linux the package system usually sets up a new installation. One just has to put something in the ACL of the db to allow the app an appropriately secure connection if needed. An experienced DBA sets it up in seconds, me in minutes:)
> Most open source database products, including MySQL, seem to require quite a bit of digging and cobbling together to set up and maintain.
Not on linux IMO. Of course if the windows port of postgres used to require, IIRC, cygwin it's not really a db fault is it? Never had problems with a couple of local and remote installation of Postgres. And the fcgi app connecting to it survives live updates of the OS and the db code.
>Microsoft SQL Server has fantastic tool support, no command line experimentation required.
Well I won't ever doubt it. My support tool is a mailing list which is not fine for enterprise.
A command line tool is very welcome, for example when depl oying to a shared server which needs the ram for the daemons, not for pretty GUI apps. Also, autocompletion and help of psql seems adequate to me. I often prefer it to firing up the GUI tool.
> An experienced DBA can set up a new installation in a couple of minutes.
Under linux the package system usually sets up a new installation. One just has to put something in the ACL of the db to allow the app an appropriately secure connection if needed. An experienced DBA sets it up in seconds, me in minutes:)
Well, extending something which was designed for entirely other purposes seems quite cool to me, so it seems we just see the same thing in different ways- I made the REST example which is not a hack but a philosophy. Another one is the inherent scalability and accessibility of html interfaces vs. old school client server apps, especially if you use the "ugly kludge" of css.
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You're welcome, Vladimir. Next time shall we use a secure channel instead?
Mossad uses Zunes on arabs? And Poison, of all distasteful bands... They seem always to reach new lows.
What makes you think it's a KGB operation?
For simple minds, it's KGB because an exotic poison like radioactive polonium seems kind of a signature it's no ordinary killing.
For smarty people, it couldn't be a KGB operation because KGB is not so stupid to poison people with exotic stuff when they have ways to make appear it an ordinary killing.
For chess playing soviet russia folks it could be a KGB operation because KGB could use the polonium as a too obvious link to make people think they're being framed while they're behind it all.
But, the odds are 50%. So I'd not point the finger at Putin so fast.
Yeah that sounded unlikely... well, unless Barney is French.
Hula wasn't yet able to compare to exchange, so what? Most succesful projects aren't able to compete with estabilished ones, until they're mature enough, and how can you prove this one would have been a failure? Also, Windows still can't compare to MacOS, yet it was succesful enough, I'd say.
It's pretty obvious what happened from the timing of the event.
Explain to me then, why is it so obvious and not just some random conspiracy theory ?
I'm no statistical expert, but call event A "Novell pwned by M$", call event B "Novell pulls devs from a project which is a direct competitor of M$ stuff". Now, armed with patience and google, calculate the probability of those events in meaningful time intervals (3 months?). Now calculate the compound probability of A and B in the same period. Very unlikely huh? A preceding B is half of it. Does it open your mind?
Your random conspiracy theory is called "cause and effect" :)
the 8000+ years of civilization went down the drain with communism destroying the past and making people a tabula rasa starving for wealth, and capitalism offering wealth on the occidental model. Result? Let's see how the younger chinese generation turns out.
After the input string put a comma not a semicolon, noob.
you are talking about an ideal patent system that work, so and ideally you're right.
But the system that allows to patent stupid things, to patent someone else's work, that prevent alternative clean-room implementations screws startups, so defending the patent system because ideally it could behave in the opposite way it does now seems quite curious to me.
I agree. I wanted to underline that even "church approved" NT books make for a "rebel" kind of christian. It was censored because the upper church didn't follow it, i presume.
I'll be able to help poor people in Africa just by putting a captcha controlled access to blogs and stuff, spammers will pay them.
I kinda missed the part where the Antikythera Mechanism creators abuse their monopoly, grow up in a market based on copyright and then push for patents, create a multimillion dollar market for security because of the holes in their software, puppet companies to spread FUD over better working alternatives...
(Trying not to recall again the smoking pile of crap MS Office preloaded on my 1997 mac was...)
.NET because they don't have a monopoly on internet frameworks.
I use firefox on linux and explorer on windows, so i keep well separate the OSS and the proprietary stacks, as features and stability go, Firefox has its share of bugs but stability and feature wise 1.5 was much better than ie6, so it would have to experience LOTS more problems if code quality were the same: on the other hand explorer couldn't be easily modularized as a separate component in the OS, w98 is said to be too difficult to keep updated from exploits (when open source people keep older kernel trees updated for people with old hardware), office presents UI errors which shareware authors on the mac would be ashamed of.
I guess good source code is there for
Dunno how easily controllable would be the guy who follows closely Jesus teachings of the NT. Can't use money to control him. Can't use fear towards him nor his family. Can't tell him to do anything which is against the NT. You can sue him and take anything from him. But that's bad propaganda for you and good for him. In fact christian faith has always needed to be badly bent to become a mean of control. Jesus guy saying like "beware when everybody speaks well about you because that's the way fake prophets were treated" implies christians being somewhat underground. And Marx talked about Religion when he should have talked about Some religions, because it's the teaching that makes it more or less of an opiate, not the fact that it's a religion or other kind of beliefs- Thatbe was a gross mistake which goes unnoticed because his writings became object of cult, which kinda settles the score :)
To bring up another point: isn't that impractical to have the filters so upstream, at the internet carrier level? I mean maybe police should be able to bypass the filters for investigation purposes on abducted children. Probably they will, I guess.
You said "one condition".
Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
"Which ones?" the man inquired.
Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
"All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
"if you want to be perfect"... Anyway Jesus did ask, almost order, his closest followers like Peter to leave everything, and being rich has a negative connotation in the NT so we should take note.
Anyway, at least this subthread has a discussion about the NT and not the usual groundless proclaim.
Such people are as much Christians as are scientists who believe the world is flat. Please do not judge us Christians by the actions of these radicals.They are not radicals. They are Trolls. How many people did Jesus H. Christ FORCE to follow him? Answer: none ever, in the NT. A forced conversion is no conversion. It even prevents a real conversion, for simple psychological reasons.
Marx was right in about everything but the remedies, anyway sport is an opiate too because of hooligans. Politics because of political terrorism. Nationalism because of nationalist terrorism. Cars because of a55holes shooting people in the fast lane. Slashdot because of the endless flames. What about we are a little more precise and say that the problem is the lack of respect for other people instead?
It was pretty much developed from scratch. The code from Spyglass was pretty useless
Still, it was a working implementation. You're saying the code was so poor that even people accustomed to work with microsoft code (same microsoft who can't modularize a browser into an OS
Maybe because the Bible says "Thou shalt not kill?".
(Now some genius usually comes up with different part of the Books where killing is encouraged. Well I can speak only for christians but the guy said he came to fullfill the law. So it needed fullfilment. So all things in the bible are not orthogonally important. But Moses tablets and the speech of Jesus seem quite important to me, what do you say?)
Your scenario is like blaming math because a corrupt accountant steals money.
I don't care how much better IE was compared to mosaic or what it was. It still was based on that so it wasn't starting from scratch.
:D
What the book said was a the tale of microsoft being late and quick to develop an alternative, but it wasn't developed from scratch so the whole point of the book was moot for that example, and since the writer seems less informed than slashdot regulars like me, I guess I'll keep reading comments here instead of buying his book
here's the POT version :D
:)
> Most open source database products, including MySQL, seem to require quite a bit of digging and cobbling together to set up and maintain.
Not on linux IMO. Of course if the windows port of postgres used to require, IIRC, cygwin it's not really a db fault is it? Never had problems with a couple of local and remote installation of Postgres. And the fcgi app connecting to it survives live updates of the OS and the db code.
>Microsoft SQL Server has fantastic tool support, no command line experimentation required.
Well I won't ever doubt it. My support tool is a mailing list which is not fine for enterprise.
A command line tool is very welcome, for example when depl oying to a shared server which needs the ram for the daemons, not for pretty GUI apps. Also, autocompletion and help of psql seems adequate to me. I often prefer it to firing up the GUI tool.
> An experienced DBA can set up a new installation in a couple of minutes.
Under linux the package system usually sets up a new installation. One just has to put something in the ACL of the db to allow the app an appropriately secure connection if needed. An experienced DBA sets it up in seconds, me in minutes
> Most open source database products, including MySQL, seem to require quite a bit of digging and cobbling together to set up and maintain. Not on linux IMO. Of course if the windows port of postgres used to require, IIRC, cygwin it's not really a db fault is it? Never had problems with a couple of local and remote installation of Postgres. And the fcgi app connecting to it survives live updates of the OS and the db code. >Microsoft SQL Server has fantastic tool support, no command line experimentation required. Well I won't ever doubt it. My support tool is a mailing list which is not fine for enterprise. A command line tool is very welcome, for example when depl oying to a shared server which needs the ram for the daemons, not for pretty GUI apps. Also, autocompletion and help of psql seems adequate to me. I often prefer it to firing up the GUI tool. > An experienced DBA can set up a new installation in a couple of minutes. Under linux the package system usually sets up a new installation. One just has to put something in the ACL of the db to allow the app an appropriately secure connection if needed. An experienced DBA sets it up in seconds, me in minutes :)
Well, extending something which was designed for entirely other purposes seems quite cool to me, so it seems we just see the same thing in different ways- I made the REST example which is not a hack but a philosophy. Another one is the inherent scalability and accessibility of html interfaces vs. old school client server apps, especially if you use the "ugly kludge" of css.