This isn't an industry thing, it's a cultural thing. Perhaps if folks worked on getting rid of the damned culture of embracing ignorance that is widespread in many "minorities" we'd have a more diverse set of coders.
Of course, "race" has nothing to do with ability to code, but what are the odds that you'll get a bunch of great programmers out of a culture (for example, black teenage culture where I live, LA) where academic achievement is called "selling out" ?
The more acceptable being intelligent is within a group, the more people from that group who will excel in technical fields.
Eh, the whole outrage portion of the discussion seems silly to me. This is a game that requires homicide, pimping and theft to complete, and people are concerned about a BJ? Odd.
No, someone has a concept of how programs work, actually.
I don't doubt that they made the game, then decided not to have it in the final game. Haven't you ever written a function that ultimately isn't called? Similar thing.
Whoa... MS folks are better balanced? Not trying to fan flames here, but I work with a lot of MS guys who don't understand basics of technology, but only the bloody MS API.
For example (I'm a web geek) we're trying to figure out why a HTTP request is getting garbled.
My first response: "ok, lets look at the whole request -it's just text- and see what it says"
MS-Guy's response: "I don't know... there's no method in the API for that..."
And that, kiddies, is why I try to remain skilled cross platform:)
I can't speak to the rights of an ex-con... but I do know some things are lost. For example, you cannot (in California anyway) buy a gun if you've been convicted of a felony.
I know that sounds reasonable. I do. But it's BS pushed on us to make society cohesive, not a reality.
You CAN NOT make someone feel an emotion. I don't care if someone calls me an asshole, if I think they are joking. If they are not, it is their ill will I am reacting to, not the words. And even still, it's MY reaction.
This isn't some excuse to bully, I'm actually a fairly friendly guy. It's actually the opposite, when I was growing up and getting teased, I realized the words had no power of their own. None. This realization takes away the ability to be emotionally abused.
Is it easy? Not particularly, but it is the truth.
Interesting how the same crowd that can expound for days on "it's not theft, it's copyright infringement" can't get the difference between physical injury (and the resultant sensations) and a few words... fascinating, really.
No, words actually cannot hurt you. You may not LIKE them, but that reaction is caused by you, not them.
For example, I know a guy who thinks I'm a real jerk. He's an asshole, so I don't worry about it. Now, if my best friend says I'm a jerk, I might feel hurt.
The reactions are MINE, not imposed upon me.
That said, people are too damned rude on the internet, but I can ignore them, so it's a wash.
I think he snuck through the loophole of actually discussing politics w/r/t dictatorships. One can't invoke Godwin when actually talking about ol' Adolph, I think.
Shit, that's nothing... you oughta see some of the WWII era cartoons (the ones you won't see on cartoon network!). At least a few "Bugs Bunny w/fanged Japanese monster" ones exist.
I think there might be a difference between sterotypes of two divisions of the same species (jew/non-jew humans) and completely different (ficional) species.
This no one would bitch if the wookie entry mentioned them being big and strong, you know?
as a side note... After episode 1, when everyone was calling lucas a racist because the bad guys had a (waaaay over the top) japanese-ish accent, I liked to point out that in the original movies, the baddies all were english (except vader). Ya don't get a lot whiter than the english, after all.
There was an interesting talk given by Richard Dawkins at TAM3 (a conference put on by James Randi's JREF). He talked about the difference between the paranormal (something that violates major tenets of science) and "perinormal" (possible but unproven and unlikely) concepts.
An example given was perpetual motion machines (clearly impossible, unless all of physics is wrong) vs. alien visits (unlikely and unproven, but not in any way impossible).
Incidently, TAM3 was awesome... if you get a chance you should go to #4 next year.
Of course, astrology isn't particularly more silly than any major religion out there... it amazes me how people hang on to 4000 year old stories as true.
I believe they are using the Appeal to Pasta method...
This isn't an industry thing, it's a cultural thing. Perhaps if folks worked on getting rid of the damned culture of embracing ignorance that is widespread in many "minorities" we'd have a more diverse set of coders.
Of course, "race" has nothing to do with ability to code, but what are the odds that you'll get a bunch of great programmers out of a culture (for example, black teenage culture where I live, LA) where academic achievement is called "selling out" ?
The more acceptable being intelligent is within a group, the more people from that group who will excel in technical fields.
Hey, I think you misread me... I agree with you.
The summary misspells "confirmed observations" as "withholding this information".
Eh, the whole outrage portion of the discussion seems silly to me. This is a game that requires homicide, pimping and theft to complete, and people are concerned about a BJ? Odd.
No, someone has a concept of how programs work, actually.
I don't doubt that they made the game, then decided not to have it in the final game. Haven't you ever written a function that ultimately isn't called? Similar thing.
Someone needed to modify the code to "unlock" the minigame.
They had to change the program.
The code was altered.
An expert had to specifically rewrite part of the application.
need I come up with more ways to say it?
it isn't "easily accessible", it's NOT accessible unless the goddamned program is changed. Which is what this patch did.
People who don't understand what they are talking about really should shut up about stuff like this.
Whoa... MS folks are better balanced? Not trying to fan flames here, but I work with a lot of MS guys who don't understand basics of technology, but only the bloody MS API.
:)
For example (I'm a web geek) we're trying to figure out why a HTTP request is getting garbled.
My first response: "ok, lets look at the whole request -it's just text- and see what it says"
MS-Guy's response: "I don't know... there's no method in the API for that..."
And that, kiddies, is why I try to remain skilled cross platform
I can't speak to the rights of an ex-con... but I do know some things are lost. For example, you cannot (in California anyway) buy a gun if you've been convicted of a felony.
I know that sounds reasonable. I do. But it's BS pushed on us to make society cohesive, not a reality.
You CAN NOT make someone feel an emotion. I don't care if someone calls me an asshole, if I think they are joking. If they are not, it is their ill will I am reacting to, not the words. And even still, it's MY reaction.
This isn't some excuse to bully, I'm actually a fairly friendly guy. It's actually the opposite, when I was growing up and getting teased, I realized the words had no power of their own. None. This realization takes away the ability to be emotionally abused.
Is it easy? Not particularly, but it is the truth.
Hmm... does the fact that I laughed at that last line somewhat defeat your argument?
Interesting how the same crowd that can expound for days on "it's not theft, it's copyright infringement" can't get the difference between physical injury (and the resultant sensations) and a few words... fascinating, really.
Wait, if someone can let the words "wash over" them, and someone else can be really touchy... then how exactly are the words the determining factor?
This isn't an excuse to bully... it's extremely liberating when you realize that someone else can't force you to change emotion.
And of course "mental pain" is significant to the person, no denying that. But the "feeler" (for lack of a better word) is still responsible.
No, words actually cannot hurt you. You may not LIKE them, but that reaction is caused by you, not them.
For example, I know a guy who thinks I'm a real jerk. He's an asshole, so I don't worry about it. Now, if my best friend says I'm a jerk, I might feel hurt.
The reactions are MINE, not imposed upon me.
That said, people are too damned rude on the internet, but I can ignore them, so it's a wash.
Ah, the world REALLY doesn't need to see that.
Unless they get some cute female protesters, then perhaps...
I think he snuck through the loophole of actually discussing politics w/r/t dictatorships. One can't invoke Godwin when actually talking about ol' Adolph, I think.
Noooo, has nothing to do with "want", has everything to do with evidence.
I'll take a theory based on current science over a 5000 year old myth any time.
Shit, that's nothing... you oughta see some of the WWII era cartoons (the ones you won't see on cartoon network!). At least a few "Bugs Bunny w/fanged Japanese monster" ones exist.
I think there might be a difference between sterotypes of two divisions of the same species (jew/non-jew humans) and completely different (ficional) species.
This no one would bitch if the wookie entry mentioned them being big and strong, you know?
as a side note... After episode 1, when everyone was calling lucas a racist because the bad guys had a (waaaay over the top) japanese-ish accent, I liked to point out that in the original movies, the baddies all were english (except vader). Ya don't get a lot whiter than the english, after all.
There was an interesting talk given by Richard Dawkins at TAM3 (a conference put on by James Randi's JREF). He talked about the difference between the paranormal (something that violates major tenets of science) and "perinormal" (possible but unproven and unlikely) concepts.
An example given was perpetual motion machines (clearly impossible, unless all of physics is wrong) vs. alien visits (unlikely and unproven, but not in any way impossible).
Incidently, TAM3 was awesome... if you get a chance you should go to #4 next year.
I don't know about "vast majority"...
Of course, astrology isn't particularly more silly than any major religion out there... it amazes me how people hang on to 4000 year old stories as true.
Smart people make bad decisions too, unless "smart" means "perfect" these days.
Does you finger get tan when you point out the blindingly obvious?
Particularly appropriate was the return of "Duel of the Fates" during the dual duel (yeah, you read that right) scene.
That said... Williams can do bombast like no other, but Howard Shore could teach him a thing or two.