The recognition that all 1's and 0's are of equal value. The value of the 'content' represented by those 1's and 0's is Neutral to the vale of the 1's and 0's.
The only actual value of the 1's and 0's is the cost of shepherding them from point to point - The larger the herd of 1's and 0's, the more it costs to move them. Which is the way it is now (pretty much, what Telcos charge for X number of 1's and 0's moved, is a separate argument).
So to phrase it another way; The cost of moving X number of trucks down a highway has no relationship to the contents of the trucks. The number of trucks you move is the determinate of cost, not the value of what they haul.
The Telcos would change this, if allowed.
We had best understand it's only 1's and 0's that 'move' over the net - the content is neutral to the method of conveyance, in the case of digital information.
Do you have any understanding on how research grants are issued? It's all used for research releated things. As such, it all essentially goes to your research department and you purchase things your research requires. Things like equipment, research assistants and space. You don't get a big fat check signed "Dr C. Researcher" with a note saying "Go wild Chuck!"
Do you understand humor for the sake of a chuckle?
Often You don't get a big fat chuckle signed "Dr. How Funny" with a note saying "Got a wild Chuckle!"
As your post proves.
But thanks for reading it, anyway.
I'll try to find some humor more your level next time, OK?
Remember this post is humor too, just at your expense, a little.
http://www.internetofthefuture.org will cause Joe Sixpack (and congress) to say "oh I get it, they need more 'lanes', you know 'truck lanes', car lanes', diamond lanes', for all the new Internet media stuff that I want. Wow the telcos really do have a problem."
In reality it's ALL ones and zeros, so all this BS about 'lanes' is just that - you pay for how many ones and zeros you handle. And how can one zero be worth more then another (or one 1 for that matter).
Why would one 'type of 1' need a special 'lane'? can one '1' be distinguished from a different '1'?
No but big pocket companies can easily be differentiated between - so their 1's should cost more. What total crap.
This ad (seen by me running on/. yesterday) caused me to make a donation to the EFF.
just seeing it again today checking 'preview' for this post made me go donate some more money to the EFF.
If you care you might consider the same thing, and let your Representatives know how you feel and stress that it's a delivery system for 1's & 0's, not 'lanes' for differing traffic.
Lacking traditional measurement tactics, "what you really want to do is get the brand talked about," Mr. Jeffrey said. "Viral marketing is all about engagement with the brand."
All those great clips that get emailed to me (none of which I can remember what 'brand' was involved) are +5 Funny (or at least a +3) - and that's the deal, nothing else.
So if they succeed at getting a viral ad going (depends on creativity, not on brand), they still lose marketing wise.
Mr. Jeffery has already show that he fails to see this - he thinks it's about engagement with the brand... well only if the brand is the butt of the joke (why Nike/Sweatshop, got a little traction).
Otherwise it's about the humor, and the brand is lost in the laugh (how many of you can, off the top of your head, remember what company the "Trunk Monkey" advertises? And would it influence you to buy whatever it is?).
Nice idea though, but if it works at all, it would work better just to release it (seed it) on a few well chosen 'laugh of the day' type sites.
But then, my bots look at ad's for me anyway, so what do I know - I never see 'em... so it's just another uninformed/. opine.
"So please let me explain the ugly truth: this is an all or nothing game. Either the copyright lords are going to control how we use information, or they aren't. Sorry charlie, there is no nice way out there is no happy middle ground. Get used to it, wake up and smell the hummis, pull your head out, quit being stupid! All or nothing. Sony, the RIAA, and MPAA seem to understand this perfectly well, their actions are obvious, they plan on it, they act on it, they clearly understand it, so why don't we?"
I modded him up, another moderator modded him down (that's OK - it's that moderators opinion).
It's my opinion (and I use the CC licenses on occasion and happen to like L. Lessig) that the parent post express an option that has a valid place on/. and ought to be at least a 4(Insightful).
Well, there's the answer. "You're Honor, my client (Google) contends that a/. poll could solve this whole issue much faster and at much less cost to the tax payers."
And in addition, your Honor, with a equal or greater degree of accuracy.
We have a/. poll here to enter into evidence in support of our position.
Please ignore the "CowboyNeal" option, we consider that a statistical anomaly... much like our own records would contain, if we were willing to give them to you - but were not - and for about the same reasons.
Granted, a lot of mobos don't require changing a jumper to flash the BIOS, but it seems that some do (none that I've encountered, though).
Every ASUS board I own has a jumper (and I have a lot of different model ASUS boards in use - over twenty anyway).
I don't know if all ASUS boards have BIOS jumpers, but all of mine do.
So now I guess I'll be putting those jumpers in non flash mode.
One more annoyance - but at least I got lucky that they all have the jumper.
They are all AMD boards (I don't use Intel, no flame, just a personal choice), so maybe the mother board chip sets have something to do with them putting BIOS jumpers on board. I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not.
But I can see where having the BIOS jumper is about to become a mother board selling point...
(26 Jan) The federal district court in Nevada ruled that Google does not violate copyright law when it caches (creates a copy of) Web pages. An attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) opined that the ruling should help Google in its dispute with publishers over the book scanning project.
"The sooner we quit believing that one party or another is interested in freedom, the sooner we have a chance to preserve the dwindling amount of it we have left."
This has my vote as the best comment ever made on/.
It's people, not political parties that need to protect freedom - political parties only protect the power of that party - whichever it is.
I can never decide what sig to wear... so I don't go out much.
It's # 2 (2. Your own credit card printer and embedding tech) that mattered.
For some years now, the technology has been readily available to manufacture your own credit cards - real or fake. The ability to inexpensively make your own RFID readable credit card, that is just waved at the reader, is coming soon - count on it.
Combining Phishing with #2, and the point becomes that it's someone else's card they are tracking.
So the long version is:
"Future scam:
1. Credit card smart readers that you just wave the card past.
2. Your own RFID credit card printer and embedding tech, creating a credit card with info you obtained via Phishing (directly or indirectly).
3. Your own custom RFID tags (for the item you are "buying").
4. No human over site to actually see what you have "bought". So no one to notice you just paid $4.99 for a 52" plasma display... And the point of making it a $4.99 item is so no human check will be raised (because high ticket items will still be looked at closely - even in self check out lines).
5. ????? (obligatory/. reference to that transactional moment).
6. Profit! (the result).
It's closer then you think... (my opinion)."
Now that may be a bit more clear for you. But it still wasn't all that great a post, I guess, because I thought it was funny (even though accurate). But if you gotta explain humor, then it wasn't funny enough.
Or I was just playing to the wrong audience.
I can never figure out what sig to wear... so I stay home a lot.
1. Credit card smart readers that you just wave the card past
2. Your own credit card printer and embedding tech
3. Your own custom RFID tags
4. No human over site to actually see what you have "bought"
5. ?????
6. Profit!
By definition, if it was important missing it would have effected some part of my life, for better or worse.
The better or worse effect would have been apparent - had it, in fact been important.
I may have missed many non-important messages - so what? If they did not care enough to use any of many methods to contact me that are explained in the challenge email (you can customize them you know), and/or on my contact page on my web site - phone, fax, form, snail mail address (link to website also in challenge). Then it was, by my definition, not important. And my definition of important is all that matters, to me.
Good grief, they could even Google me, if it came to that - in order to be trying to contact me, and not be spam, they must at least know my name, business name, or at least something about me, and anyone who knows any of the above would have no trouble contacting me.
In other words anyone who wanted to reach me and was above the level of a moron, could do so. If they failed to do so they had nothing to say I was/am interested in.
You have contacted me, for example, without knowing anything about me other then that I posted something on/. - email is not they "only" method of contact, it is just one of the most convenient for may of us, is all.
Now I did say "never missed an important email", and it could be true. To be precise, "I never missed an important message". In fact, if it was important, I would have been reached through one of the other methods - so far no one has contacted me using an alternate method and mentioned a failed email try first. Maybe they just failed to mention it... But I did get the message.
Me too. Three years without spam. For me it's "What spam problem?".
Using TMDA was/is the best thing I've ever invested a little learning curve in.
Combined with qmail, qmailque_patch, spamassassin, and clamav it becomes a very sweet email system. I sometimes use time expiring and or keyword emails for specific sites (I love TMDA).
About 100 - 300 incoming emails per day, about 25 - 30 challenges sent per day, all else is dropped before it reaches TMDA.
And in three years I've never missed an important email. Although I sometimes have to do a quick check of the pending file to get an email address of a company I've bought something from, to release and add to my whitelist.
So my only problem, and it is slight, is with people/business that do NOT publish their email address. If I send someone email they are auto whielisted, just like your setup.
I also use a cgi script for http based requests to be added to my whitelist.
I also use TMDA cgi, and provide free, and spam free, pop3 email services for family and a few friends (they each have their own web whitelist request form). They average about the same percentage of challenges to incoming email as I do.
I'm just an average sort of geek, so if I can do this thing on my home DSL line, with an old computer I'm using for a server, any ISP should be able to provide it as a service.
I find the question "Why don't they do this for their customers?" to be the interesting question.
Could it be that there is way to much vested interest (money) on both sides of spam as we now know it? naaa, surely not...
The recognition that all 1's and 0's are of equal value. The value of the 'content' represented by those 1's and 0's is Neutral to the vale of the 1's and 0's.
The only actual value of the 1's and 0's is the cost of shepherding them from point to point - The larger the herd of 1's and 0's, the more it costs to move them. Which is the way it is now (pretty much, what Telcos charge for X number of 1's and 0's moved, is a separate argument).
So to phrase it another way; The cost of moving X number of trucks down a highway has no relationship to the contents of the trucks. The number of trucks you move is the determinate of cost, not the value of what they haul.
The Telcos would change this, if allowed.
We had best understand it's only 1's and 0's that 'move' over the net - the content is neutral to the method of conveyance, in the case of digital information.
Lets keep it that way.
Or we kiss our new shiny goodbye... forever.
Do you understand humor for the sake of a chuckle?
Often You don't get a big fat chuckle signed "Dr. How Funny" with a note saying "Got a wild Chuckle!"
As your post proves.
But thanks for reading it, anyway.
I'll try to find some humor more your level next time, OK?
Remember this post is humor too, just at your expense, a little.
I think I could tough that out for 3 million...
It's the moment before that I want to know about... Oh, wait...
http://www.internetofthefuture.org will cause Joe Sixpack (and congress) to say "oh I get it, they need more 'lanes', you know 'truck lanes', car lanes', diamond lanes', for all the new Internet media stuff that I want. Wow the telcos really do have a problem."
In reality it's ALL ones and zeros, so all this BS about 'lanes' is just that - you pay for how many ones and zeros you handle. And how can one zero be worth more then another (or one 1 for that matter).
Why would one 'type of 1' need a special 'lane'? can one '1' be distinguished from a different '1'?
No but big pocket companies can easily be differentiated between - so their 1's should cost more. What total crap.
This ad (seen by me running on /. yesterday) caused me to make a donation to the EFF.
just seeing it again today checking 'preview' for this post made me go donate some more money to the EFF.
If you care you might consider the same thing, and let your Representatives know how you feel and stress that it's a delivery system for 1's & 0's, not 'lanes' for differing traffic.
They obviously think it's about the brand:
All those great clips that get emailed to me (none of which I can remember what 'brand' was involved) are +5 Funny (or at least a +3) - and that's the deal, nothing else.
So if they succeed at getting a viral ad going (depends on creativity, not on brand), they still lose marketing wise.
Mr. Jeffery has already show that he fails to see this - he thinks it's about engagement with the brand... well only if the brand is the butt of the joke (why Nike/Sweatshop, got a little traction).
Otherwise it's about the humor, and the brand is lost in the laugh (how many of you can, off the top of your head, remember what company the "Trunk Monkey" advertises? And would it influence you to buy whatever it is?).
Nice idea though, but if it works at all, it would work better just to release it (seed it) on a few well chosen 'laugh of the day' type sites.
But then, my bots look at ad's for me anyway, so what do I know - I never see 'em... so it's just another uninformed /. opine.
I modded him up, another moderator modded him down (that's OK - it's that moderators opinion).
It's my opinion (and I use the CC licenses on occasion and happen to like L. Lessig) that the parent post express an option that has a valid place on /. and ought to be at least a 4(Insightful).
And that's my opine.
Although I have heard that they may not follow the Socket 939 architecture for much longer - but don't quote me on that.
I bought one and am happy with it, it will be a user for a long time, even if they leave the 939 behind (and I don't know that they actually will).
And in addition, your Honor, with a equal or greater degree of accuracy.
We have a /. poll here to enter into evidence in support of our position.
Please ignore the "CowboyNeal" option, we consider that a statistical anomaly... much like our own records would contain, if we were willing to give them to you - but were not - and for about the same reasons.
This is about trying to revisit (show the need for) a law that has already been struck down.
So it's not about a law at all, it's about the governments attempt to show the need for a law.
And trying to use Google records for that is as relevant as using a /. poll for the same (or any other) purpose.
Every ASUS board I own has a jumper (and I have a lot of different model ASUS boards in use - over twenty anyway).
I don't know if all ASUS boards have BIOS jumpers, but all of mine do.
So now I guess I'll be putting those jumpers in non flash mode.
One more annoyance - but at least I got lucky that they all have the jumper.
They are all AMD boards (I don't use Intel, no flame, just a personal choice), so maybe the mother board chip sets have something to do with them putting BIOS jumpers on board. I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not.
But I can see where having the BIOS jumper is about to become a mother board selling point...
To see someone named McBride do something good.
Maybe Darl could learn from this... well probably not.
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26 January 2006
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Google Cache Does Not Infringe on Copyright
http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesVie w/sid/12594
(26 Jan) The federal district court in Nevada ruled that Google does not violate copyright law when it caches (creates a copy of) Web pages. An attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) opined that the ruling should help Google in its dispute with publishers over the book scanning project.
SEE: Ruling in Blake v. Googlea _order.pdf
EFF (copy of court filing), 19 January 2006
http://www.eff.org/IP/blake_v_google/google_nevad
"There are three kinds of lies. Plain lies, Damn lies, and Statistics."
Obligatory M. Twain Sig:
"Post No Bills"
This has my vote as the best comment ever made on /.
It's people, not political parties that need to protect freedom - political parties only protect the power of that party - whichever it is.
I can never decide what sig to wear... so I don't go out much.
For some years now, the technology has been readily available to manufacture your own credit cards - real or fake. The ability to inexpensively make your own RFID readable credit card, that is just waved at the reader, is coming soon - count on it.
Combining Phishing with #2, and the point becomes that it's someone else's card they are tracking.
So the long version is:
"Future scam:
1. Credit card smart readers that you just wave the card past. /. reference to that transactional moment).
2. Your own RFID credit card printer and embedding tech, creating a credit card with info you obtained via Phishing (directly or indirectly).
3. Your own custom RFID tags (for the item you are "buying").
4. No human over site to actually see what you have "bought". So no one to notice you just paid $4.99 for a 52" plasma display... And the point of making it a $4.99 item is so no human check will be raised (because high ticket items will still be looked at closely - even in self check out lines).
5. ????? (obligatory
6. Profit! (the result).
It's closer then you think... (my opinion)."
Now that may be a bit more clear for you. But it still wasn't all that great a post, I guess, because I thought it was funny (even though accurate). But if you gotta explain humor, then it wasn't funny enough.
Or I was just playing to the wrong audience.
I can never figure out what sig to wear... so I stay home a lot.
1. Credit card smart readers that you just wave the card past
2. Your own credit card printer and embedding tech
3. Your own custom RFID tags
4. No human over site to actually see what you have "bought"
5. ?????
6. Profit!
It's closer then you think...
that I seem to detect a bit of yellow showing through that particular Black Hat.
Not a good sign... it requires gutsy people to push the envelope, in order for progress to occur.
Lynn showed what he's made off... and so did Cisco and Black Hat.
All in all, not a good day for anyone... except maybe admins that now know a bit more about their Cisco system then they did before.
I hope...
There is no sig like the old sig, so this is it.
When asked about this, he said "illnever.tel"
OK so shoot me, that was just to hard to resist.
Now you they should mod up.
Pointing out my error and explaining about the back of the screen....
I guess from the front it would just be reversed left to right.
Your post is much better then mine was...
Both +1 informative, and another +1 funny (and should be an automatic +5, for getting me to laugh at myself...)
Thanks for both the info and the chuckle.
How is this going to be much use in the USA... Won't the pictures be upside down?
This is the sig of sig's - so go ahead and crucify it.... please.
I do not have a spam problem. The rest of you seem to. Think it through...
NewToNix
The better or worse effect would have been apparent - had it, in fact been important.
I may have missed many non-important messages - so what? If they did not care enough to use any of many methods to contact me that are explained in the challenge email (you can customize them you know), and/or on my contact page on my web site - phone, fax, form, snail mail address (link to website also in challenge). Then it was, by my definition, not important. And my definition of important is all that matters, to me.
Good grief, they could even Google me, if it came to that - in order to be trying to contact me, and not be spam, they must at least know my name, business name, or at least something about me, and anyone who knows any of the above would have no trouble contacting me.
In other words anyone who wanted to reach me and was above the level of a moron, could do so. If they failed to do so they had nothing to say I was/am interested in.
You have contacted me, for example, without knowing anything about me other then that I posted something on /. - email is not they "only" method of contact, it is just one of the most convenient for may of us, is all.
Now I did say "never missed an important email", and it could be true. To be precise, "I never missed an important message". In fact, if it was important, I would have been reached through one of the other methods - so far no one has contacted me using an alternate method and mentioned a failed email try first. Maybe they just failed to mention it... But I did get the message.
NewToNix.
But other then the "me too" and the "just like you" lines, it is a fair response to you also, more or less.
NewToNix.
Using TMDA was/is the best thing I've ever invested a little learning curve in.
Combined with qmail, qmailque_patch, spamassassin, and clamav it becomes a very sweet email system. I sometimes use time expiring and or keyword emails for specific sites (I love TMDA).
About 100 - 300 incoming emails per day, about 25 - 30 challenges sent per day, all else is dropped before it reaches TMDA.
And in three years I've never missed an important email. Although I sometimes have to do a quick check of the pending file to get an email address of a company I've bought something from, to release and add to my whitelist.
So my only problem, and it is slight, is with people/business that do NOT publish their email address. If I send someone email they are auto whielisted, just like your setup.
I also use a cgi script for http based requests to be added to my whitelist.
I also use TMDA cgi, and provide free, and spam free, pop3 email services for family and a few friends (they each have their own web whitelist request form). They average about the same percentage of challenges to incoming email as I do.
I'm just an average sort of geek, so if I can do this thing on my home DSL line, with an old computer I'm using for a server, any ISP should be able to provide it as a service.
I find the question "Why don't they do this for their customers?" to be the interesting question.
Could it be that there is way to much vested interest (money) on both sides of spam as we now know it? naaa, surely not...
NewToNix (well I was once, anyway).