Nah... I'd use transformer oil, and I don't think a Lipton Cup-a-Soup would taste quite the same.
Transformer oil, however, is probably quite suitable for use in a CPU cooling system.
I've been considering just dipping the whole computer in a vat of oil. Should work fine (at least for awhile). Of course the disk drives would be external to the vat. Now if I could just get 10 or 15 litres of fluorinert (sp?) - that would be very cool (pun not really intended). Dead silence in the computer room. Wow.
We had some attention problems with our 8 yr old son until we took him off wheat and reduce carbohydrates dramatically. The problem has gone away and stayed away. Lots of evidence suggests that carbs and especially wheat/grains are very bad for some of us.
Living in Vermont I'd love to be able to hit a switch and have my tires "get a grip" on the ice. I bought Petrenko's text book and I'm slowly making my way through it. Many, many years ago I read an article on how ice is a semiconductor. The authors of that article made transistors (bipolar IIRC) using ice doped with something I can't remember. Petrenko makes a FET using ice but he uses a silicon wafer for making the gate. If anyone reading this knows how to make a BJT using ice please let me know! Its of absolutely no practical use but it sure would be interesting. Email: kiatoa@kiatoa-remove-me-.com
I read 1.2 watts - where did you see.3 watts? At.3 watts I'm much more interested. Although 1.2 is still fairly good. Note however that this is a MCM (*) and traditionally MCM's are very expensive. If they have solved the expense problem I can't wait to see these in Digikey!
(*) MCM - multi chip module, bunch of silicon dice glued to a substrate and wired together.
I'm assuming that there are alternatives to spending the money on the oil products. For example you can use natural gas for heat or better insulate your house. You can use a bus instead of drive. Now you can keep the money and spend it on something else instead of the oil. This type of tax would shift the equilibrium point and keep US dollars at home instead of giving those dollars to people who are not even doing any work for the money.
I'm saying tax away some of the windfall profits from harvesting natural resources. Especially if those windfall profits are going overseas.
It might not push the consumption down in the short term but in the longer term I believe it would. Over time some people would purchase more efficient vehicles or (*gasp*!), take the bus or train or maybe even a bicycle to work. Then there is more insulation for the house, using more efficient lighting etc. And there are many other things which depend on oil and some of those have more elastic demand curves. Carpets for example. Many carpets are mostly made of oil I think and people can generally afford to wait a little longer to replace a carpet that they don't like the color of. Of course since the government gave the taxes collected back to the people, they (the taxpayers) have more money to spend...
Doesn't apply - note I said that for this to work the government MUST give the money gathered directly back to the taxpayers. However your point is important because if the government does not give the money back to the people then sure enough lower income folks would be hard hit.
So assuming that the government did follow though and pass the money back to the people in a well distributed way, everyone, including the poor, would be better off since less US dollars would be going overseas in spite of the same level of oil consumption.
Simple, don't tax the labour portion of imports but DO tax the raw material portions of imports. For example, applied to oil, follow these steps
1. Tax oil imports.
-- This pushes oil consumption down
-- Which (over time) forces exporting countries to drop prices to maintain revenue
2. Counter the increased price of oil by lowering income taxes proportional to amount of tax on imported oil. I.e. consumers are overall no worse off. Personally I'd like to see an annual equally distributed per-taxpayer payout.
3. Repeat for other imports dominated by raw materials as part of their value: diamonds, wood products (perhaps), food (land is the raw material) etc.
Ironically taxing oil imports will yield a net *lower* effective price on oil. This effect would be most powerful if the oil importing countries of the world got together and agreed on a tax rate they should each apply. Unfortunately there is an implict assumption in the above scenario - the government must give the oil taxes back to the people either as direct payments or in decreased income taxes or the effect on the economy will be quite harmful. Of course in reality the Republicrats will buy more pork...
Unintended consequences would include more efficient use of oil resources and perhaps a transient disruption of the economy.
By applying the tax to the raw materials you don't do harm to the people who do all the work in producing the goods. See http://www.henrygeorge.org for a different perspective on this idea (they disagree with me BTW).
What other unintended consequences would there be?
I dunno, I opted in to X10 spam. I kinda enjoy getting it. There are a couple of other advert. type things I opt into also. Away.com spamverts get me thinking about that nice Cook Island vacation...
Browse slashdot at -1 sometime. Valid points are moderated down as "trolls" or "flamebait" if the moderator disagrees with them. Goatse links are often moderated up once or twice if they are placed in an otherwise normal-looking comment.
Blatently wrong posts often make it up to +5 informative, while a reply to it that is accurate will only get a +2 insightful.
I've thought about this a little and was wondering What would happen if slashdot started selling higher rated posts. Say for $5.00 I could buy 20 posts. I would tend to use them more judiciously but would have my posts start out at +2. Just a thought.
Now there is the seeds of an idea. A system of peer review where volunteers can comment on patents and where if there is a sufficient case the patent can have the status of "granted but not enforceable" so that the idea is available for all to see but is effectively in the public domain.
I think the hand-held keyboard posted the other day is a good example of a patent that is both deserved and makes sense and I hope the inventor is sucessful in defending his patent and bringing a product to market. Sometimes the system does achieve its intended goals. I believe there are many good ideas that are available for us to improve on by virtue of being patented rather than wasting away in someones head because of fear of not being able to capitalize on the idea once it is made public.
Personally I'd like to see a system based on Open Source Ideas - you submit an idea and it is documented as yours and the social contract is that if someone uses the idea the inventor gets credited publicly thereby satisfying that age old desire for a little recognition.
Maybe what is needed is a principle based system instead of a rule based system.
Answer the question: did your action harm someone? Was it avoidable and were you aware of the (un)intended consequences of the action?
The current system: If A happens and you do B then we will put you in jail for X amount of time... seems only to pad the pockets of those who already have deep pockets and to not achieve the goals of fairness and justice.
Sounds to me that you, and the girlfriend of the author of the parent to your post should read the article this thread is about. I had high cholesterol and my wife had various hormonal issues until we cut out the sugar and carbs. We now eat mostly veges, meats and eggs and our health is far better for it.
I found the quote on http://www.henrygeorge.org. I think it is calculated on $ value but I don't know for sure. I think it is a very interesting topic for discussion and that is the only reason I use it as my sig. If someone has pointers to information that refutes or substantiates this statistic I'd love to hear it. Also I'd like to know of a good forum to discuss this as it is rather off topic here.
How warm would the waste heat from your server farm keep a 20,000 gallon swimming pool in mid winter vermont? If the answer is > 80 deg F would you be interested in relocating your server farm to Burlington Vermont? I have a swiming pool that is still at 65 deg F.:(
And yes, I am planning on the heat from my two servers but that will only be 500 or so watts.
Dang, can't load the PDF but looking at the table of contents seems like the article covers lots of good ground. One thing I wish I saw that I don't - tax away the "rental" value of the bandwidth. In conjunction with using the trunking mentioned above this would take away the profits garnered by controlling the resource. Left over would still be the opportunity to make good profits from corporations using the spectrum wisely. Now if only we could trust governments to use extra taxes gained to displace income taxes. *sigh*
Not so fast. Maybe a temporary setback but hardly the end of the war. I suspect (as mentioned elsewhere) that moves like this will actually increase competition - between different provider styles at least. Its only a monopoly if there are no alternatives and in the broadband arena it seems likely that in the longer term at least there will be alternatives.
Costs are really the fundamental problem. That much I think a lot of folks would agree with. If only the costs reflected the real (and future) impact of using a resource. I think intelligently applying taxes could really help here. Raise all tax revenues by taxing only natural resources and land. Then when these guys make a compostable couch it will likely cost less than the one made from plastics that will last 100's of years in the local landfill. The other side effect of taxing only natural resources is that a lot of trash itself will be more valuable. Just my daily 2c.
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None. Assuming they used ROM. Anyone know what is used? How does Flash and EPROM hold up under bombardment of high energy particles? Sorry, all questions and no answers today.
Maybe the movie isn't aimed at folks like you. I loved Episode I and my kids loved it too. Isn't it o.k. to have different tastes in movies. I watched Dinatopia on t.v. with the kids over the last few days and yeah, the acting fell a little short. But still, I enjoyed it and the kids loved it. Maybe technology has jaded you and others of your generation. Think: is it a bad movie or just not YOUR favorite kind of movie. Own your opinions. I like the Star Wars series. I don't like horror movies. Not: Star Wars movies are good and horror movies are bad.
Sometimes the market is stupid. Sure let the market decide but I would like to see a large portion of the profits of domain names being taxed. Similar to the land tax ideas of Henry George (see http://www.henrygeorge.org and take the quiz - quite the eye-opener) massive profits on speculation on domain names is of no particular benefit to society. Maybe use the taxes collected to pay for additional net infrastructure.
a) Not all companies do layoffs the way you describe.
b) How are you sure that you are getting the lazy ones? Sometimes its hard to tell and in some companies the existing sytems of ranking and rating folks are good enough that most employees are pretty good.
c) Isn't old == less useful? At least in the minds of simplistic thinkers it seems to be. I know I'm bumming since I'm personally now in the "old" camp.:(
Funny sense of dejavu eh? On the other hand my internet access became very unreliable for a week or two and I noticed a rather dramatic improvement in my productivity. I wasn't even aware of what a distraction the net was for me. Now that the access is back I'm pretty much saving it for home and not using it at work and my job is thriving for it. Not that I'd condone draconian methods for limiting folks using the net at work....
Oh, by the by I'm posting from home - first time in ages:)
The flies have taken off due to the excessive use of pesticides aimed at curbing the fly problem ending up killing the birds that keep the flies in check!!!
This is a classic unintended consequence issue. I can't think of any unintended consequences of the release of sterile flies but I'll bet there will be some!
Useful? I hope so. I still can't read the report (access problems) but I am very curious about how they did taxes. I'd really like to see an experiment like this where Henry George principles are applied (see www.henrygeorge.org). I tried it with a game of Monopoly and it seemed to work. The game never finished. Of course its not that hard for that to happen in Monopoly anyway so a more rigourous (sp?) study or experiment would be very interesting.
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Nah... I'd use transformer oil, and I don't think a Lipton Cup-a-Soup would taste quite the same.
Transformer oil, however, is probably quite suitable for use in a CPU cooling system.
I've been considering just dipping the whole computer in a vat of oil. Should work fine (at least for awhile). Of course the disk drives would be external to the vat. Now if I could just get 10 or 15 litres of fluorinert (sp?) - that would be very cool (pun not really intended). Dead silence in the computer room. Wow.
We had some attention problems with our 8 yr old son until we took him off wheat and reduce carbohydrates dramatically. The problem has gone away and stayed away. Lots of evidence suggests that carbs and especially wheat/grains are very bad for some of us.
Living in Vermont I'd love to be able to hit a switch and have my tires "get a grip" on the ice. I bought Petrenko's text book and I'm slowly making my way through it. Many, many years ago I read an article on how ice is a semiconductor. The authors of that article made transistors (bipolar IIRC) using ice doped with something I can't remember. Petrenko makes a FET using ice but he uses a silicon wafer for making the gate. If anyone reading this knows how to make a BJT using ice please let me know! Its of absolutely no practical use but it sure would be interesting. Email: kiatoa@kiatoa-remove-me-.com
I read 1.2 watts - where did you see .3 watts? At .3 watts I'm much more interested. Although 1.2 is still fairly good. Note however that this is a MCM (*) and traditionally MCM's are very expensive. If they have solved the expense problem I can't wait to see these in Digikey!
(*) MCM - multi chip module, bunch of silicon dice glued to a substrate and wired together.
I'm saying tax away some of the windfall profits from harvesting natural resources. Especially if those windfall profits are going overseas.
...
So assuming that the government did follow though and pass the money back to the people in a well distributed way, everyone, including the poor, would be better off since less US dollars would be going overseas in spite of the same level of oil consumption.
...
1. Tax oil imports.
-- This pushes oil consumption down
-- Which (over time) forces exporting countries to drop prices to maintain revenue
2. Counter the increased price of oil by lowering income taxes proportional to amount of tax on imported oil. I.e. consumers are overall no worse off. Personally I'd like to see an annual equally distributed per-taxpayer payout.
3. Repeat for other imports dominated by raw materials as part of their value: diamonds, wood products (perhaps), food (land is the raw material) etc.
Ironically taxing oil imports will yield a net *lower* effective price on oil. This effect would be most powerful if the oil importing countries of the world got together and agreed on a tax rate they should each apply. Unfortunately there is an implict assumption in the above scenario - the government must give the oil taxes back to the people either as direct payments or in decreased income taxes or the effect on the economy will be quite harmful. Of course in reality the Republicrats will buy more pork...
Unintended consequences would include more efficient use of oil resources and perhaps a transient disruption of the economy.
By applying the tax to the raw materials you don't do harm to the people who do all the work in producing the goods. See http://www.henrygeorge.org for a different perspective on this idea (they disagree with me BTW).
What other unintended consequences would there be?
I dunno, I opted in to X10 spam. I kinda enjoy getting it. There are a couple of other advert. type things I opt into also. Away.com spamverts get me thinking about that nice Cook Island vacation...
Blatently wrong posts often make it up to +5 informative, while a reply to it that is accurate will only get a +2 insightful.
I've thought about this a little and was wondering What would happen if slashdot started selling higher rated posts. Say for $5.00 I could buy 20 posts. I would tend to use them more judiciously but would have my posts start out at +2. Just a thought.
Now there is the seeds of an idea. A system of peer review where volunteers can comment on patents and where if there is a sufficient case the patent can have the status of "granted but not enforceable" so that the idea is available for all to see but is effectively in the public domain.
I think the hand-held keyboard posted the other day is a good example of a patent that is both deserved and makes sense and I hope the inventor is sucessful in defending his patent and bringing a product to market. Sometimes the system does achieve its intended goals. I believe there are many good ideas that are available for us to improve on by virtue of being patented rather than wasting away in someones head because of fear of not being able to capitalize on the idea once it is made public.
Personally I'd like to see a system based on Open Source Ideas - you submit an idea and it is documented as yours and the social contract is that if someone uses the idea the inventor gets credited publicly thereby satisfying that age old desire for a little recognition.
Maybe what is needed is a principle based system instead of a rule based system.
Answer the question: did your action harm someone? Was it avoidable and were you aware of the (un)intended consequences of the action?
The current system: If A happens and you do B then we will put you in jail for X amount of time... seems only to pad the pockets of those who already have deep pockets and to not achieve the goals of fairness and justice.
Sounds to me that you, and the girlfriend of the
author of the parent to your post should read the
article this thread is about. I had high
cholesterol and my wife had various hormonal issues
until we cut out the sugar and carbs. We now eat
mostly veges, meats and eggs and our health is far
better for it.
I found the quote on http://www.henrygeorge.org. I think it is calculated on $ value but I don't know for sure. I think it is a very interesting topic for discussion and that is the only reason I use it as my sig. If someone has pointers to information that refutes or substantiates this statistic I'd love to hear it. Also I'd like to know of a good forum to discuss this as it is rather off topic here.
I've wondered....
:(
How warm would the waste heat from your server farm keep a 20,000 gallon swimming pool in mid winter vermont? If the answer is > 80 deg F would you be interested in relocating your server farm to Burlington Vermont? I have a swiming pool that is still at 65 deg F.
And yes, I am planning on the heat from my two servers but that will only be 500 or so watts.
Dang, can't load the PDF but looking at the table of contents seems like the article covers lots of good ground. One thing I wish I saw that I don't - tax away the "rental" value of the bandwidth. In conjunction with using the trunking mentioned above this would take away the profits garnered by controlling the resource. Left over would still be the opportunity to make good profits from corporations using the spectrum wisely. Now if only we could trust governments to use extra taxes gained to displace income taxes. *sigh*
Not so fast. Maybe a temporary setback but hardly the end of the war. I suspect (as mentioned elsewhere) that moves like this will actually increase competition - between different provider styles at least. Its only a monopoly if there are no alternatives and in the broadband arena it seems likely that in the longer term at least there will be alternatives.
Sorry, all questions and no answers today.
Sometimes the market is stupid. Sure let the market decide but I would like to see a large portion of the profits of domain names being taxed. Similar to the land tax ideas of Henry George (see http://www.henrygeorge.org and take the quiz - quite the eye-opener) massive profits on speculation on domain names is of no particular benefit to society. Maybe use the taxes collected to pay for additional net infrastructure.
a) Not all companies do layoffs the way you describe.
b) How are you sure that you are getting the lazy ones? Sometimes its hard to tell and in some companies the existing sytems of ranking and rating folks are good enough that most employees are pretty good.
c) Isn't old == less useful? At least in the minds of simplistic thinkers it seems to be. I know I'm bumming since I'm personally now in the "old" camp. :(
Funny sense of dejavu eh? On the other hand my internet access became very unreliable for a week or two and I noticed a rather dramatic improvement in my productivity. I wasn't even aware of what a distraction the net was for me. Now that the access is back I'm pretty much saving it for home and not using it at work and my job is thriving for it. Not that I'd condone draconian methods for limiting folks using the net at work....
:)
Oh, by the by I'm posting from home - first time in ages
The flies have taken off due to the excessive use of pesticides aimed at curbing the fly problem ending up killing the birds that keep the flies in check!!!
This is a classic unintended consequence issue. I can't think of any unintended consequences of the release of sterile flies but I'll bet there will be some!
Useful? I hope so. I still can't read the report (access problems) but I am very curious about how they did taxes. I'd really like to see an experiment like this where Henry George principles are applied (see www.henrygeorge.org). I tried it with a game of Monopoly and it seemed to work. The game never finished. Of course its not that hard for that to happen in Monopoly anyway so a more rigourous (sp?) study or experiment would be very interesting.