1) Vultus was funded by Canopy, who are major shareholders in SCO 2) It makes SCO look like less of a one string guitar to investors who might be interested in buying SCOX - after all, a company that buys a web service company must have a future.
We can only speculate how/if SCO has paid Canopy for the company.
From the chart at Yahoo, 800,000 shares changed hands today - thats 600,000 more than an average day (the past few weeks has been 250K/day) so someone bought & sold a big block of shares today - theres a big spike on the volume graph. I guess we'll find out if it was insiders when the form 4 gets through the SEC in the next week or so.
Note also that Vultus is in the same building in UTAH as SCO.
Anyone else noticed this Vultus company is a Canopy funded company too? They hang out in one of SCO's buildings. Check their website especially this picture!
Go take a look at the vultus web site - in particular, their contact page. Look at who shares their building!! SCO!!!
So have they really bought it? or is it more bullshit, conjoured up with the help of the guys upstairs?
I include it verbatim, to save you using the link
SCO has made a big noise about registering SVR4 copyrights and announced their linux liscensing
plan, which they call a UNIX liscensing plan. Looks
like they're going for $1500 per LINUX seat for Unixware
liscense to emdemnify from lawsuit.
HOWEVER everything is not as the media is reporting...
The copyright they registered is a 20 page revision
to SVR4 (i.e SVR4.1ES)
registration number TX-5-705-356.
You can verify this at:
http://www.copyright.gov/records/cohm.html
The original UNIX copyright was never registered to Novell,
and is currently registered to (SURPRISE!) AT&T.
I'm not sure about the legal ramnifications, I believe
that SCO has the right to copyright derivitive works
in their aggreement with Novell. However, a search at:
http://www.copyright.gov/records/
under the tab "Copyright ownership documents,
such as name changes and transfers" shows no
record of any copyright transfers to SCO Group.
In short, despite what is being widely reported,
SCO still has not acquired (and may not be able
to acquire) the copyright that they are
threatening to use to sue LINUX users.
(Copyrights MUST be registered before lawsuits
may be filed).
WinNT 4.0 end of support date is June 30 2003 according to microsoft.com. This SCO thing couldn't just be a load of FUD to make people migrate NT4.0 to Win2K instead of Linux could it?
In this zdnet article (who else!) from 2002, Darly Baby says: "And C++ programming languages, we own those, have licensed them out multiple times, obviously" Watch yer arse Stroustrup! Darls coming to get you!
There are two potential explanations for that behavior.
A) IBM knows that SCO has no case, and will stomp SCO when they feel like it.
or
B) IBM thinks that SCO may have a case,
I think its most likley A, as SCO have been doing a whole load of talking, and not much else: "We're going to sue you!", "We're really going to sue you!" , "We're really really going to sue you!", "Hey everyone, we're really going to sue them, really!", etc...etc...
I'm expecting IBM to turn up to court with some big ammo; not much will happen before then unless SCO pisses off one of IBMs customers or something.
Some guy on the yahoo message board has been going through McBrides filings to the SEC. It will be interesting to see if he really has dumped his stock...
at the boston globe they say SCO are now seeking up to $50 billion damages... whats next, a trillion trillion dollars? a bazillion dollars? Fucktards.
I can't work out if IBM will respond or not, until this all comes to court. They look like they might just wait it out, and let SCO run out of hot air.
Having just installed RH8 (9 doesn't work with WebSphere yet) for a development project I was really impressed with how far it has come since RH6 and RH7. In fact, so impressed I'm having another go at replacing win2k on my notebook with it. Last time I tried, I had trouble working with people using MS Word etc. Openoffice initially looks good - time will tell if I can interoperate. Its great that KDE and Gnome are moving forward so fast - they really look like a viable desktop platform these days.
Fantastic! CmdrTaco drinks Boddies! Do you have gravy wit' chips n'all mate?
It makes sense because
1) Vultus was funded by Canopy, who are major shareholders in SCO
2) It makes SCO look like less of a one string guitar to investors who might be interested in buying SCOX - after all, a company that buys a web service company must have a future.
We can only speculate how/if SCO has paid Canopy for the company.
From the chart at Yahoo, 800,000 shares changed hands today - thats 600,000 more than an average day (the past few weeks has been 250K/day) so someone bought & sold a big block of shares today - theres a big spike on the volume graph. I guess we'll find out if it was insiders when the form 4 gets through the SEC in the next week or so.
Note also that Vultus is in the same building in UTAH as SCO.
See lazy zdnet press release regurgitation
Anyone else noticed this Vultus company is a Canopy funded company too? They hang out in one of SCO's buildings. Check their website especially this picture!
Question: Who owns/funds ZDnet & the like?
Go take a look at the vultus web site - in particular, their contact page. Look at who shares their building!! SCO!!! So have they really bought it? or is it more bullshit, conjoured up with the help of the guys upstairs?
I include it verbatim, to save you using the link
SCO has made a big noise about registering SVR4
copyrights and announced their linux liscensing
plan, which they call a UNIX liscensing plan. Looks
like they're going for $1500 per LINUX seat for Unixware
liscense to emdemnify from lawsuit.
HOWEVER everything is not as the media is reporting...
The copyright they registered is a 20 page revision
to SVR4 (i.e SVR4.1ES) registration number TX-5-705-356.
You can verify this at:
http://www.copyright.gov/records/cohm.html
The original UNIX copyright was never registered to Novell,
and is currently registered to (SURPRISE!) AT&T.
I'm not sure about the legal ramnifications, I believe
that SCO has the right to copyright derivitive works
in their aggreement with Novell. However, a search at:
http://www.copyright.gov/records/
under the tab "Copyright ownership documents,
such as name changes and transfers" shows no
record of any copyright transfers to SCO Group.
In short, despite what is being widely reported,
SCO still has not acquired (and may not be able
to acquire) the copyright that they are
threatening to use to sue LINUX users.
(Copyrights MUST be registered before lawsuits
may be filed).
WinNT 4.0 end of support date is June 30 2003 according to microsoft.com. This SCO thing couldn't just be a load of FUD to make people migrate NT4.0 to Win2K instead of Linux could it?
In this zdnet article (who else!) from 2002, Darly Baby says:
"And C++ programming languages, we own those, have licensed them out multiple times, obviously"
Watch yer arse Stroustrup! Darls coming to get you!
I think its most likley A, as SCO have been doing a whole load of talking, and not much else: "We're going to sue you!", "We're really going to sue you!" , "We're really really going to sue you!", "Hey everyone, we're really going to sue them, really!", etc...etc...
I'm expecting IBM to turn up to court with some big ammo; not much will happen before then unless SCO pisses off one of IBMs customers or something.
Some guy on the yahoo message board has been going through McBrides filings to the SEC. It will be interesting to see if he really has dumped his stock...
According to Trolltech, canopy has a 5.8% stake through the heart, sorry, don't know what came over me...
Sun has joined the debate by taking advantage of the uncertainty over IBM
So are Sun going to join in the fun and sue IBM for £1,000,000,000 (or whatever) for breach of trade secret in IBM's Java implementation?
at the boston globe they say SCO are now seeking up to $50 billion damages... whats next, a trillion trillion dollars? a bazillion dollars? Fucktards. I can't work out if IBM will respond or not, until this all comes to court. They look like they might just wait it out, and let SCO run out of hot air.
Actually, the two camps are 'Those with loaded guns' and 'Those that dig'.
Having just installed RH8 (9 doesn't work with WebSphere yet) for a development project I was really impressed with how far it has come since RH6 and RH7. In fact, so impressed I'm having another go at replacing win2k on my notebook with it. Last time I tried, I had trouble working with people using MS Word etc. Openoffice initially looks good - time will tell if I can interoperate. Its great that KDE and Gnome are moving forward so fast - they really look like a viable desktop platform these days.