Well, they said all that is to know in that quote: You have to spend 3 times the time to watch a single episode of whatever because downloading takes longer.
OK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... backs what you're saying. However, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/... (like the article on Phosphate) doens't mention any use as active cleaning agent. According to that article, it's only use was to lower water hardness but is an important part food additive.
Never thought chemistry would be one of the cultural differences between the US and Europe.... But at least you're using the same gravity as we do over here, don't you?
At any rate, add to that the fact that I own *all* the land around me in almost every direction - I'll own the next chunk to my NE when my neighbor's pass away.
Which is pretty cool, I have to admit. So, how could we turn this into a feasible laternative for the >7.5 billion poeple currently living on this planet?
and how exactly did phospate help to clean anything?
I was a teen when they phased it out of detergents and I remember it was said to be only some cheap additive to increase the weight of detergent so it could easily be sold as "+20% detergent for free" in the ads, but ignoring that you had to use 25% more of it.
Isn't that more due to the fact that more and more cameras and routers are shipped with a general purpose CPU that could provide those features?
If a device - whatever device it may be - has a CPU capapble of running some kind of linux, a ethernat port and a usb port, you don't need to "unlock" anything to turn that thing into a NAS. No matter if has been designed and sold as a router, tv or coffee maker.
But what keeps you from ataching the same frame of reference to left and right as you do to port and starbord? Like when you go to your doctor, he will know, even when talking about your case with other doctors, that the pain in the right arm is always in YOUR right arm.
But how, pray tell, is that connected to the amount of hassle you have to go through to visit a country as a holiday destination?
A few posts up someone said that many Europeans don't visit the US anymore because it's to much hassle. And someone tried a "back at you" reply claiming that going to Europe would mean as much hassle and feeling of being unwelcome for US citizens that they wouldn't visit the US anymore.
Well that's clearly neither connected to size or population density, but I'm still waiting for one example where entering Europe is as cumbersome as traveling to the US.
Country. You know, that thing with a common head of state, often federal laws and institutions... well.. a COUNTRY! a friggin run of the mill independant, soverign state.
Please don't tell me you mixed that up with a US state.
If you start now with listing a countries sub units, alone France with about 100 departements would beat you to that.
And if you just tried to counter-troll with that post, you even missed the obvious rebuff of comparing square miles.
You'd be amazed at how many Americans don't travel to Europe either because it's too much hassle.
Hassle as in NOT have to pay $15 in advance entry fee? Or Hassle as in NOT have to get a visa? Or hassle as in only have to flick your passport once at the destination airport and then being able to travel to ~20 other countries without a single border control?
Could you give an example of what you're referring to?
And don't blame it on Europe if the "hassle" is only in obtaining a passport because US bureaucracy is as swift as a 70s banana republic's. That's homemmade.
If you want to know how these laws can be followed to the letter but robots still commit mass murder, read the Asimov short stories where those laws are taken from.
But that may be refined by defining plotting and preparing certain crimes as crime itself. (Of course this includes much mroe than merely thinking or talking about illegal activities)
On the danger of being modded down into oblivion: I understand and agree why law enforcement needs to intercept communications to do their job. And I WANT police to be able to do their job and catch criminals.
but a) this should be law enforcement and NOT "The Gouvernment" b) on a case-by-case-base, watched over by a real judge and NOT a blanket surveillance issued by some Gestapo-Secret-Court and c) not weakening encryption by backdoors so that any criminal can listen in. (and this is what happens when someone finds out about the backdoor and they WILL find out)
So why do we need encryption at all? It's a sad state that we need it to protect us from BOTH criminals AND overreaching government surveillance. It would be nice if I could trust government enough to not misuse their powers so that we wouldn't need strong crypto. But sorry, no.
Side note: I'm not from the US but we're having exactly the same discussion, so I'd say my points are valid pretty much globally.
I completely trust most governments and 3-letter-agencies to have only the best intentions. But they're not seeing where those are leading to.
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Well, they said all that is to know in that quote: You have to spend 3 times the time to watch a single episode of whatever because downloading takes longer.
Bandwidth is a finite resource at any given time.
Good point. Veery good point.
So, for the sake of the argument, assume it is also correct. Then, HOW ON EARTH can Telcos be selling effing UNLIMITED bandwidth?
Right. They can't. Exactly how the power company can't sell endless electricity. But do other utility companies advertide anything unlimited? No.
Boohoo. Pay for what you use. Do you demand the power company give you unlimited electricity or the hydro company unlimited water?
See, THAT's the difference.
But that would be sensible, easy, and honest.
It will never happen.
But as you already said: that's a markup language. What are you using to render it?
OK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... backs what you're saying. However, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/... (like the article on Phosphate) doens't mention any use as active cleaning agent. According to that article, it's only use was to lower water hardness but is an important part food additive.
Never thought chemistry would be one of the cultural differences between the US and Europe.... But at least you're using the same gravity as we do over here, don't you?
At any rate, add to that the fact that I own *all* the land around me in almost every direction - I'll own the next chunk to my NE when my neighbor's pass away.
Which is pretty cool, I have to admit. So, how could we turn this into a feasible laternative for the >7.5 billion poeple currently living on this planet?
Sure in a sane world it would use a reliable sensor that determines when it's clean
Like they are used even in the cheapest dishwashers nowadays?
and how exactly did phospate help to clean anything?
I was a teen when they phased it out of detergents and I remember it was said to be only some cheap additive to increase the weight of detergent so it could easily be sold as "+20% detergent for free" in the ads, but ignoring that you had to use 25% more of it.
I would perhaps add the "raclette cycle " that swiss dishwashers have as usefull, but have to admit that's only a very limited scope...
Isn't that more due to the fact that more and more cameras and routers are shipped with a general purpose CPU that could provide those features?
If a device - whatever device it may be - has a CPU capapble of running some kind of linux, a ethernat port and a usb port, you don't need to "unlock" anything to turn that thing into a NAS. No matter if has been designed and sold as a router, tv or coffee maker.
I bet you were not using 2 factor authentication. Lock out only happens to users using only password.
But what keeps you from ataching the same frame of reference to left and right as you do to port and starbord? Like when you go to your doctor, he will know, even when talking about your case with other doctors, that the pain in the right arm is always in YOUR right arm.
Ok. comparing size. got that.
But how, pray tell, is that connected to the amount of hassle you have to go through to visit a country as a holiday destination?
A few posts up someone said that many Europeans don't visit the US anymore because it's to much hassle. And someone tried a "back at you" reply claiming that going to Europe would mean as much hassle and feeling of being unwelcome for US citizens that they wouldn't visit the US anymore.
Well that's clearly neither connected to size or population density, but I'm still waiting for one example where entering Europe is as cumbersome as traveling to the US.
to us, you're like a loose loose loose confederation of states that in the past really really really wanted to kill the fuck out of each other.
Yes. But, as you said, not anymore. Don't you think that's a big win? Because that past isn't THAT long ago.
Well, my point was that I was counting countries.
Country. You know, that thing with a common head of state, often federal laws and institutions... well.. a COUNTRY! a friggin run of the mill independant, soverign state.
Please don't tell me you mixed that up with a US state.
If you start now with listing a countries sub units, alone France with about 100 departements would beat you to that.
And if you just tried to counter-troll with that post, you even missed the obvious rebuff of comparing square miles.
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You'd be amazed at how many Americans don't travel to Europe either because it's too much hassle.
Hassle as in NOT have to pay $15 in advance entry fee? Or Hassle as in NOT have to get a visa? Or hassle as in only have to flick your passport once at the destination airport and then being able to travel to ~20 other countries without a single border control?
Could you give an example of what you're referring to?
And don't blame it on Europe if the "hassle" is only in obtaining a passport because US bureaucracy is as swift as a 70s banana republic's. That's homemmade.
which of cause the characters in the stories just never thought off because the assumed that those three rules were perfect.
Yes, but so what?
If you want to know how these laws can be followed to the letter but robots still commit mass murder, read the Asimov short stories where those laws are taken from.
I usually explain it that they were the first ones to do them right, but not invent them. I think thats quite accurate.
In general, yes.
But that may be refined by defining plotting and preparing certain crimes as crime itself. (Of course this includes much mroe than merely thinking or talking about illegal activities)
On the danger of being modded down into oblivion: I understand and agree why law enforcement needs to intercept communications to do their job. And I WANT police to be able to do their job and catch criminals.
but
a) this should be law enforcement and NOT "The Gouvernment"
b) on a case-by-case-base, watched over by a real judge and NOT a blanket surveillance issued by some Gestapo-Secret-Court and
c) not weakening encryption by backdoors so that any criminal can listen in. (and this is what happens when someone finds out about the backdoor and they WILL find out)
So why do we need encryption at all? It's a sad state that we need it to protect us from BOTH criminals AND overreaching government surveillance. It would be nice if I could trust government enough to not misuse their powers so that we wouldn't need strong crypto. But sorry, no.
Side note: I'm not from the US but we're having exactly the same discussion, so I'd say my points are valid pretty much globally.
I completely trust most governments and 3-letter-agencies to have only the best intentions. But they're not seeing where those are leading to.
So you're saying that current elections are going to have any effect?
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+5 Intresting? Come on..... at least I'm admittint to be trolling. I'll gratefully accept the +1 funnies though.
Don't know for sure, but elsewhere people would probably just notice that the road is wet after a rainfall and drive accordingly?
How many of those 384,032 people sued because no one put up a yellow "Caution! Wet Floor" sign?