Re:Could this be the end of lazy IE-only scripted
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Actually the W3C has little to do with scripting, the only standard for scripting is ECMA 262, also known as JavaScript. The reason some of your IE-only sites started working in Firefox is, as you pointed out, because invisible support for document.all was added. This is actually moving away from the standards, but it was felt necessary because of all the webmasters who refused to fix their pages! But I'm sure you aren't one of those...:)
Maybe you should contact your bank and suggest they allow Firefox. My bank hasn't had a problem with it ever. You could also try the UserAgent Switcher extension to try and fool the bank. Can't remember the URL, but it's by Chris Pederick.
And as Firefox's share grows, I'm sure that sites such as the one you mention will change. But in the meantime have you tried contacting the webmaster of the site? Many times they don't even know there's a problem in another web browser.
Re:They're overhyping a bit, aren't they?
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All those things will be addressed in Firefox 1.1, except the thing with your website. Post the URL or the code to Mozillazine's Firefox Bugs or Web Development forum, and we'll tell you what's happening.
There is a review on endgadget (Incidentally, it includes the words 'blasphemy' and 'Fisher Price.'I think that's why the 'anonymous poster' posted a link to his so-called blog.)
Sure lots of us associate Firefox with Ben, but just because he's got a job at Google, doesn't mean they hired him so they could 'take over' the browser, or that there's going to be 'overlap.' Many of Mozilla's/Firefox's developers work at other large IT companies (IBM is the first to come to mind) with none of this influence, or speculation of influence. Presumably, Ben's work on Firefox will be happening in his personal time, and won't have much to do with Google. I would guess they hired him because he's now got a great track record and clearly developed skills in UI design and implementation.
I know nobody will read this, but I was just browsing around and came across Jamie Zawinski's mention of just such a thing. 5 years ago. http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/tty.html
The author is professor of theoretical physics at City University of New York. This article is adapted from his book "Parallel Worlds" (Allen Lane) The universe is out of control, in a runaway acceleration. Eventually all intelligent life will face the final doom--the big freeze. An advanced civilisation must embark on the ultimate journey: fleeing to a parallel universe.
In Norse mythology, Ragnarok--the fate of the gods--begins when the earth is caught in the vice-like grip of a bone-chilling freeze. The heavens themselves freeze over, as the gods perish in great battles with evil serpents and murderous wolves. Eternal darkness settles over the bleak, frozen land as the sun and moon are both devoured. Odin, the father of all gods, finally falls to his death, and time itself comes to a halt.
Does this ancient tale foretell our future? Ever since the work of Edwin Hubble in the 1920s, scientists have known that the universe is expanding, but most have believed that the expansion was slowing as the universe aged. In 1998, astronomers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and the Australian National University calculated the expansion rate by studying dozens of powerful supernova explosions within distant galaxies, which can light up the entire universe. They could not believe their own data. Some unknown force was pushing the galaxies apart, causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate. Brian Schmidt, one of the group leaders, said, "I was still shaking my head, but we had checked everything... I was very reluctant to tell people, because I truly thought that we were going to get massacred."
Physicists went scrambling back to their blackboards and realised that some "dark energy" of unknown origin, akin to Einstein's "cosmological constant," was acting as an anti-gravity force. Apparently, empty space itself contains enough repulsive dark energy to blow the universe apart. The more the universe expands, the more dark energy there is to make it expand even faster, leading to an exponential runaway mode.
In 2003, this astonishing result was confirmed by the WMAP (Wilkinson microwave anisotropy probe) satellite. Orbiting at a million miles from earth, this satellite contains two telescopes capable of detecting the faint microwave radiation which bathes the universe. It is so sensitive that it is able to photograph in exquisite detail the afterglow of the microwave radiation left over from the big bang, which is still circulating the universe. The WMAP satellite, in effect, gave us "baby pictures" of the universe when it was a mere 380,000 years old.
The WMAP satellite settled the long-standing question of the age of the universe: it is officially 13.7bn years old (to within 1 per cent accuracy). But more remarkably, the data showed that dark energy is not a fluke, but makes up 73 per cent of the matter and energy of the entire universe. To deepen the mystery, the data showed that 23 per cent of the universe consists of "dark matter," a bizarre form of matter which is invisible but still has weight. Hydrogen and helium make up 4 per cent, while the higher elements, you and I included, make up just 0.03 per cent. Dark energy and most of dark matter do not consist of atoms, which means that, contrary to what the ancient Greeks believed and what is taught in every chemistry course, most of the universe is not made of atoms at all.
As the universe expands, its energy content is diluted and temperatures eventually plunge to near absolute zero, where even atoms stop moving. One of the iron laws of physics is the second law of thermodynamics, which states that in the end everything runs down, that the total "entropy" (disorder or chaos) in the universe always increases. This means that iron rusts, our bodies age and crumble, empires fall, stars exhaust their nuclear fuel, and the universe itself will run down, as temperatures drop uniformly to near zero.
Charles Darwin was referring to this law when he wrote: "Believing as I do that man in the distant futur
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If only more people thought like this:
In retrospect, my comments about getting the 'FIRST P0ST' seem like a cheap attempt to get the first post. I'll try to post a more well-thought-out reply.
Actually, if you read the article, you would see that the author tells you how, given a list of links, to make a CSS table of contents, with one line of CSS. (But your bottom line is the same one the author came to.)
Anyone still using IE on a Mac (or otherwise, IMO) should be walking around with a paper bag on their head. I know there isn't much choice for older Macs, but anyone running OS X has the option of Safari, Firefox, Camino, Mozilla, etc.
And I wouldn't go so far as to call it a 'modern' browser, it's like 5 years old now! It's rendering engine was miles ahead of the Windows version when it came out. IE for Windows never caught up until version 6.
Visiting the ESA site with some of the pictures, I eagerly clicked on the HI-RES JPG link, only to get a 305x261 image that I can barely make out on my 1024x768 monitor!
I suppose that's what one should expect of a picture that's got to travel 15 million km or something, but still disappointing.
Late I know, but there is command and directory completion.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\CompletionChar
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\PathCompletionChar
Set 'em to 9 and go at it.
Miranda IM. If you want to use Gaim, you need to install GTK, and the download is 6 MB. Miranda is about 1 MB.
Microsoft Windows Services for Unix. It should be named Unix Services for Windows, but whatever. Provides a development environment superior in many ways to Cygwin's.
MetaPad. Great Notepad replacement; no bells and whistles, but a few useful additions.
Ethereal. An Ethernet sniffer, useful for debugging problems and snooping on your neighbors.
I know my extension will be updated in 6 hours, but update.mozilla.org will be at least a week to show the update. Until they automate that process, the update site is going to be behind by a bit. Most authors probably offer more recent versions of their extensions on their own web sites. (Grab PasteIP if you ever have occasion to paste your IP address or User-Agent into an email message.)
Disgruntled ex-employee perhaps? I'm always suspicious of people who are this bitter.
BTW I've never seen any other LED-based replacements for standard bulbs. Care to enlighten us?
I don't know where you are, but here in Canada I can get a string of 70 bulbs for $13 at Candian Tire. If you're going to have such a ridiculous number of bulbs, I would think the energy savings would pay for the LED bulbs in a matter of weeks.
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Seems Netscape had the same attitude before releasing the future Mozilla code in 1998: http://www.jwz.org/doc/censorzilla.html
Actually the W3C has little to do with scripting, the only standard for scripting is ECMA 262, also known as JavaScript. The reason some of your IE-only sites started working in Firefox is, as you pointed out, because invisible support for document.all was added. This is actually moving away from the standards, but it was felt necessary because of all the webmasters who refused to fix their pages! But I'm sure you aren't one of those... :)
Maybe you should contact your bank and suggest they allow Firefox. My bank hasn't had a problem with it ever. You could also try the UserAgent Switcher extension to try and fool the bank. Can't remember the URL, but it's by Chris Pederick.
And as Firefox's share grows, I'm sure that sites such as the one you mention will change. But in the meantime have you tried contacting the webmaster of the site? Many times they don't even know there's a problem in another web browser.
All those things will be addressed in Firefox 1.1, except the thing with your website. Post the URL or the code to Mozillazine's Firefox Bugs or Web Development forum, and we'll tell you what's happening.
There is a review on endgadget (Incidentally, it includes the words 'blasphemy' and 'Fisher Price.'I think that's why the 'anonymous poster' posted a link to his so-called blog.)
something like this maybe? http://www.google.com/mozilla/google.xul
(or for the lazy people: something like this maybe?
Sure lots of us associate Firefox with Ben, but just because he's got a job at Google, doesn't mean they hired him so they could 'take over' the browser, or that there's going to be 'overlap.' Many of Mozilla's/Firefox's developers work at other large IT companies (IBM is the first to come to mind) with none of this influence, or speculation of influence.
Presumably, Ben's work on Firefox will be happening in his personal time, and won't have much to do with Google. I would guess they hired him because he's now got a great track record and clearly developed skills in UI design and implementation.
I know nobody will read this, but I was just browsing around and came across Jamie Zawinski's mention of just such a thing. 5 years ago. http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/tty.html
The author is professor of theoretical physics at City University of New York. This article is adapted from his book "Parallel Worlds" (Allen Lane)
The universe is out of control, in a runaway acceleration. Eventually all intelligent life will face the final doom--the big freeze. An advanced civilisation must embark on the ultimate journey: fleeing to a parallel universe.
In Norse mythology, Ragnarok--the fate of the gods--begins when the earth is caught in the vice-like grip of a bone-chilling freeze. The heavens themselves freeze over, as the gods perish in great battles with evil serpents and murderous wolves. Eternal darkness settles over the bleak, frozen land as the sun and moon are both devoured. Odin, the father of all gods, finally falls to his death, and time itself comes to a halt.
Does this ancient tale foretell our future? Ever since the work of Edwin Hubble in the 1920s, scientists have known that the universe is expanding, but most have believed that the expansion was slowing as the universe aged. In 1998, astronomers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and the Australian National University calculated the expansion rate by studying dozens of powerful supernova explosions within distant galaxies, which can light up the entire universe. They could not believe their own data. Some unknown force was pushing the galaxies apart, causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate. Brian Schmidt, one of the group leaders, said, "I was still shaking my head, but we had checked everything... I was very reluctant to tell people, because I truly thought that we were going to get massacred."
Physicists went scrambling back to their blackboards and realised that some "dark energy" of unknown origin, akin to Einstein's "cosmological constant," was acting as an anti-gravity force. Apparently, empty space itself contains enough repulsive dark energy to blow the universe apart. The more the universe expands, the more dark energy there is to make it expand even faster, leading to an exponential runaway mode.
In 2003, this astonishing result was confirmed by the WMAP (Wilkinson microwave anisotropy probe) satellite. Orbiting at a million miles from earth, this satellite contains two telescopes capable of detecting the faint microwave radiation which bathes the universe. It is so sensitive that it is able to photograph in exquisite detail the afterglow of the microwave radiation left over from the big bang, which is still circulating the universe. The WMAP satellite, in effect, gave us "baby pictures" of the universe when it was a mere 380,000 years old.
The WMAP satellite settled the long-standing question of the age of the universe: it is officially 13.7bn years old (to within 1 per cent accuracy). But more remarkably, the data showed that dark energy is not a fluke, but makes up 73 per cent of the matter and energy of the entire universe. To deepen the mystery, the data showed that 23 per cent of the universe consists of "dark matter," a bizarre form of matter which is invisible but still has weight. Hydrogen and helium make up 4 per cent, while the higher elements, you and I included, make up just 0.03 per cent. Dark energy and most of dark matter do not consist of atoms, which means that, contrary to what the ancient Greeks believed and what is taught in every chemistry course, most of the universe is not made of atoms at all.
As the universe expands, its energy content is diluted and temperatures eventually plunge to near absolute zero, where even atoms stop moving. One of the iron laws of physics is the second law of thermodynamics, which states that in the end everything runs down, that the total "entropy" (disorder or chaos) in the universe always increases. This means that iron rusts, our bodies age and crumble, empires fall, stars exhaust their nuclear fuel, and the universe itself will run down, as temperatures drop uniformly to near zero.
Charles Darwin was referring to this law when he wrote: "Believing as I do that man in the distant futur
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If only more people thought like this: In retrospect, my comments about getting the 'FIRST P0ST' seem like a cheap attempt to get the first post. I'll try to post a more well-thought-out reply.
Actually, if you read the article, you would see that the author tells you how, given a list of links, to make a CSS table of contents, with one line of CSS. (But your bottom line is the same one the author came to.)
Anyone still using IE on a Mac (or otherwise, IMO) should be walking around with a paper bag on their head. I know there isn't much choice for older Macs, but anyone running OS X has the option of Safari, Firefox, Camino, Mozilla, etc.
And I wouldn't go so far as to call it a 'modern' browser, it's like 5 years old now! It's rendering engine was miles ahead of the Windows version when it came out. IE for Windows never caught up until version 6.
Visiting the ESA site with some of the pictures, I eagerly clicked on the HI-RES JPG link, only to get a 305x261 image that I can barely make out on my 1024x768 monitor!
I suppose that's what one should expect of a picture that's got to travel 15 million km or something, but still disappointing.
Late I know, but there is command and directory completion. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\CompletionChar and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\PathCompletionChar Set 'em to 9 and go at it.
Here's an article from the Vancouver Sun with some additional details.
Microsoft Windows Services for Unix. It should be named Unix Services for Windows, but whatever. Provides a development environment superior in many ways to Cygwin's.
MetaPad. Great Notepad replacement; no bells and whistles, but a few useful additions.
Ethereal. An Ethernet sniffer, useful for debugging problems and snooping on your neighbors.
WinCVS. GUI front end for CVS client.
I know my extension will be updated in 6 hours, but update.mozilla.org will be at least a week to show the update. Until they automate that process, the update site is going to be behind by a bit. Most authors probably offer more recent versions of their extensions on their own web sites. (Grab PasteIP if you ever have occasion to paste your IP address or User-Agent into an email message.)
Actually it's 888-LOST-NUT. Official FTC number you say? What's that say about your current administration?
Disgruntled ex-employee perhaps? I'm always suspicious of people who are this bitter. BTW I've never seen any other LED-based replacements for standard bulbs. Care to enlighten us?
I don't know where you are, but here in Canada I can get a string of 70 bulbs for $13 at Candian Tire. If you're going to have such a ridiculous number of bulbs, I would think the energy savings would pay for the LED bulbs in a matter of weeks.