You're absolutely right, friend. Sorry for calling you a bad programmer.
Although, I've seen a lot of awful technical drawings of late, you're not that far off. Analysis is the biggest and most significant part of any programming project.
But the ability to find and understand the problem isn't always enough.
It takes first hand experience more than anything, the ability to program, listen, adapt quickly, and ultimately deliver customer satisfaction. If you look at it that way, it's really more of a service job than anything. I've managed to extend three month contracts on forever for fulfilling those criteria. Not to pat myself on the back or anything. But couldn't you call that an art form as well?
You could but the definition of art itself has always been a hard one to pin down.
There's no shortage of Linux FUD lately. Ever wonder how this popped right up right at about the same time as people stopped paying any attention to SCO? Coincidink? I think not.
Sure, you can teach it like you teach art. But taking an art class does not make you an artist if you have no underlying talent to begin with.
Programming is hard to define, and understand for most people. Hence the high numbers of really bad programmers that the schools have been churning out over the last ten years or so.
I wouldn't equate it to piano though. It's more like painting, only with digits, pixels, and logic.
Is painting something you can learn?
Sure, you can learn the mechanics of it at any art college. But being a good painter requires something more than simply knowing the mechanics. It requires a whole other set of skills that make it a true art form. I have found in my experience as a programmer and a painter, that just as painting is an art form, so to is programming... for many of the same reasons.
Only a really bad programmer would disagree with me on that.
I had a mugging problem when I was in San Francisco. Got mugged twice before I realized that muggers are very predictable. They like their targets to be predictable as well. I found that wearing a dirty shrunken wool jacket I got from goodwill, carrying extra bags, and yelling at people that wearen't there was a great way to avoid getting mugged.
Isn't Slate owned by Microsoft? Funny how they never talk about executing corporate executives who commit serious crimes. Think of the Enron execs, who do just as much damage if not more than many of the smaller viruses. Although, computers are replacable. Pensions aren't. If we're going to be hard on crime, let's be sensible and punish everyone equally. Dumb bastards.
All time is a big place with some pretty successful studios and films. Even Disney will attest to that.
Although Pixar may have the highest dollar value to date, it's really unfair to compare today's dollar to the dollar of 1951 or 1935 for that matter.
You can sell a tenth of the tickets now, and end up at the same net dollar amount as Gone with the Wind. Most movies today net more than that movie did. Does that make your movie more successful? Absolutely not.
I think a better indicator may be gross sales; in which case you may find that the most successful studio of all time is probably Sony or one of the other legacy studios that have been around forever.
Mind you, my opinion means nothing. I'm not in the movie business, but if I were, that's how I would evaluate it.
To summarize the recent remarks of Microsoft execs:
It's not free! It's free! There's no money in it! There's money in it! There's no interest in it! There's interest in it, but it's not goooood....
Meanwhile, they're actually releasing open source code themselves, granted probably as part of a larger agenda. And then there's their shiny new Open Source Resource Lab where they "educate" people on the "merits" of OSS.
It almost sounds like Microsoft is two different companies that don't really agree with each other.
Anyone remember KnightRider 2000? They postulated the same thing in the beginning of the movie. They also said it would cause the cost of oil to go down to nothing. Only they predicted Dan Quale would be president. So much for the nostradomous theory. Heh heh.
I wonder if it will lead to declining sales of digital tv's in Japan. If I had any vested interest in hd or digital tv here in the US, I would be paying close attention to this. Good thing I don't, sounds like it's going to be a mess.
Right on. Not disagreeing with you, but what if the tracks in question did not originate from cd, but other legal medium to which you own the right to use? Streaming radio comes to mind.
Imagine what could happen if a hacker breaks in and decides to drive you to work. His way, via the scenic route through new mexico! How would patching work? Software in cars is generally not as flexible as that of the PC. Sometimes, it's even hardwired in. What do you do then? You think people are scared of using the internet for transactions? Just wait till this thing hits the market. You ain't seen nuthin yet.
It's rare that anyone does anything from scratch anymore. Even the Chinese, afraid of "spy holes" in Windows have been using and contributing (I use the term loosely) to Linux development. They even claim to have a Windows 2000 clone "almost ready."
Don't get me wrong.
I'm all for any totalitarian government that can sustain itself for any extended period of time. But do they have to be so secretive about everything?
If they would just open up a little (yeah, you may snicker now), they would be able to embrace the communist dream of free labor on a much larger scale, and be able to develop their own standards more quickly.
And heck, if all they want is open standards, you might find people actually adopting these Chinese national standards. Imagine... a patent free world through Chinese standards. Sounds silly, but I wouldn't rule it out.
Every article that I read on the subject seems to have it wrong. They aren't suing downloaders. They're suing uploaders. You're only committing copyright infringement if you distribute something. If you're not sharing or "distributing," you're not infringing. Downloading is not a crime... yet.
Or better yet, crashing a distributed network. But seriously, this could prove useful. In a couple of years when everyone's got a supercomputer (they'll need it to run longhorn remember, I'm sure someone will post something like "minimal windows for super computers in only 500 mb!" here on/.
How could it happen? The timeline is all wrong. It would have to be like, Kirk's granfather or something. That would be kind of silly too. I think Shatner would be a lot better as a bug Xindi, or some other Evil Alien race where his long spaces between words, sentances and paragraphs might... Actually... come... in... Useful...
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Hate to ask an obviously ignorant question here, but what about all the SCO driver code they just incorporated into Solaris last year?
You're absolutely right, friend.
Sorry for calling you a bad programmer.
Although, I've seen a lot of awful technical drawings of late, you're not that far off. Analysis is the biggest and most significant part of any programming project.
But the ability to find and understand the problem isn't always enough.
It takes first hand experience more than anything, the ability to program, listen, adapt quickly, and ultimately deliver customer satisfaction. If you look at it that way, it's really more of a service job than anything. I've managed to extend three month contracts on forever for fulfilling those criteria. Not to pat myself on the back or anything. But couldn't you call that an art form as well?
You could but the definition of art itself has always been a hard one to pin down.
There's no shortage of Linux FUD lately. Ever wonder how this popped right up right at about the same time as people stopped paying any attention to SCO? Coincidink? I think not.
How can you say programming is not a talent?
Sure, you can teach it like you teach art.
But taking an art class does not make you an artist if you have no underlying talent to begin with.
Programming is hard to define, and understand for most people. Hence the high numbers of really bad programmers that the schools have been churning out over the last ten years or so.
I wouldn't equate it to piano though. It's more like painting, only with digits, pixels, and logic.
Is painting something you can learn?
Sure, you can learn the mechanics of it at any art college. But being a good painter requires something more than simply knowing the mechanics. It requires a whole other set of skills that make it a true art form. I have found in my experience as a programmer and a painter, that just as painting is an art form, so to is programming... for many of the same reasons.
Only a really bad programmer would disagree with me on that.
Finally, a reason for theater ushers to feel like they're not a total and complete waste of space. WB I salute you.
Oh, so you've also taken Muni. Sorry to hear. Most of us only make that mistake once.
I had a mugging problem when I was in San Francisco. Got mugged twice before I realized that muggers are very predictable. They like their targets to be predictable as well. I found that wearing a dirty shrunken wool jacket I got from goodwill, carrying extra bags, and yelling at people that wearen't there was a great way to avoid getting mugged.
Isn't Slate owned by Microsoft?
Funny how they never talk about executing corporate executives who commit serious crimes. Think of the Enron execs, who do just as much damage if not more than many of the smaller viruses. Although, computers are replacable. Pensions aren't. If we're going to be hard on crime, let's be sensible and punish everyone equally. Dumb bastards.
Sounds like they're doing everything but Caining them.
On the bright side, it doesn't sound like this is anywhere near over.
That may not necessarily be true.
All time is a big place with some pretty successful studios and films. Even Disney will attest to that.
Although Pixar may have the highest dollar value to date, it's really unfair to compare today's dollar to the dollar of 1951 or 1935 for that matter.
You can sell a tenth of the tickets now, and end up at the same net dollar amount as Gone with the Wind. Most movies today net more than that movie did. Does that make your movie more successful? Absolutely not.
I think a better indicator may be gross sales; in which case you may find that the most successful studio of all time is probably Sony or one of the other legacy studios that have been around forever.
Mind you, my opinion means nothing.
I'm not in the movie business, but if I were, that's how I would evaluate it.
Right. Even if you do pick an ass backwards way to do it. There are a lot of useless silly things you can do that are totally legal.
Exactly. The day people take me too seriously, I'm done for.
Nice! You got it. I have to change it now. Drats.
Yeah, but how seriously can you take a guy named C. Sharp who says companies will be better of with Microsoft?
It's all good. Wasn't really trying for funny. It's more ironic than anything.
It's not free! It's free! There's no money in it! There's money in it! There's no interest in it! There's interest in it, but it's not goooood....
Meanwhile, they're actually releasing open source code themselves, granted probably as part of a larger agenda. And then there's their shiny new Open Source Resource Lab where they "educate" people on the "merits" of OSS.
It almost sounds like Microsoft is two different companies that don't really agree with each other.
Anyone remember KnightRider 2000? They postulated the same thing in the beginning of the movie. They also said it would cause the cost of oil to go down to nothing. Only they predicted Dan Quale would be president. So much for the nostradomous theory. Heh heh.
I wonder if it will lead to declining sales of digital tv's in Japan. If I had any vested interest in hd or digital tv here in the US, I would be paying close attention to this. Good thing I don't, sounds like it's going to be a mess.
Right on.
Not disagreeing with you, but what if the tracks in question did not originate from cd, but other legal medium to which you own the right to use? Streaming radio comes to mind.
Sounds dangerous.
Hope it's secure.
Imagine what could happen if a hacker breaks in and decides to drive you to work. His way, via the scenic route through new mexico! How would patching work? Software in cars is generally not as flexible as that of the PC. Sometimes, it's even hardwired in. What do you do then? You think people are scared of using the internet for transactions? Just wait till this thing hits the market. You ain't seen nuthin yet.
But I'll probably buy one.
It's rare that anyone does anything from scratch anymore. Even the Chinese, afraid of "spy holes" in Windows have been using and contributing (I use the term loosely) to Linux development. They even claim to have a Windows 2000 clone "almost ready."
Don't get me wrong.
I'm all for any totalitarian government that can sustain itself for any extended period of time. But do they have to be so secretive about everything?
If they would just open up a little (yeah, you may snicker now), they would be able to embrace the communist dream of free labor on a much larger scale, and be able to develop their own standards more quickly.
And heck, if all they want is open standards, you might find people actually adopting these Chinese national standards. Imagine... a patent free world through Chinese standards. Sounds silly, but I wouldn't rule it out.
Every article that I read on the subject seems to have it wrong. They aren't suing downloaders. They're suing uploaders. You're only committing copyright infringement if you distribute something. If you're not sharing or "distributing," you're not infringing. Downloading is not a crime... yet.
Or better yet, crashing a distributed network. But seriously, this could prove useful. In a couple of years when everyone's got a supercomputer (they'll need it to run longhorn remember, I'm sure someone will post something like "minimal windows for super computers in only 500 mb!" here on /.
Or wouldn't it be funny if the nexus and that Realm sico is living in now where in fact... the same place.
How could it happen? The timeline is all wrong. It would have to be like, Kirk's granfather or something. That would be kind of silly too. I think Shatner would be a lot better as a bug Xindi, or some other Evil Alien race where his long spaces between words, sentances and paragraphs might... Actually... come... in... Useful...