This post is probably going to get modded down for redundancy but according to the article:
"The group discounted the recent wave of worms, viruses and other attacks that have affected Windows systems worldwide. It confined the study to overt digital attacks by hackers."
Aren't viruses and worms created by hackers? Don't viruses and worms account for the vast majority of attacks against windows servers?
Sure, if you discount the majority of attacks against Windows systems, it suddenly becomes the most secure thing in the world.
That exception makes me question the credibility of this study.
If you use these job boards the way you're supposed to use them, then this article is probably right. I have found every job I've ever had on either dice or monster. The way I do it... I cheat.
I indescriminantly send my resume to recruiter I can, if my skills match what they're looking for or not. I get a lot of calls from confused recruiters, but after about a month of doing it for six to ten hours a day, I usually end up getting my resume into the right hands, or hopefully several pairs of right hands. Works every time. Just takes a little patience. There's a lot of competition out there these days.
I like this idea a lot, but it will take fifty years before we're even close to seeing something like this in place. I fear the US is going to fall behind the rest of the world in this respect.
SQLite could be packaged into something like that. It would be a lot more powerful than Access. But all database systems are quirky. Hey, Doesn't OO already have a database tool? I'm pretty sure I saw one in that pile of programs it comes with.
It sounds like it's the whole win32 compatibility layer. I could be wrong, but doesn't this mean that reverse engineering Windows interfaces for Linux suddenly just became a whole lot easier?
I hate to be the nay sayer here, but everyone is talking about this story like it's the real deal, yet no one seems to have come up with a single solitary download URL. If this was the real thing, you would think that such a thing would exist in at least one spot on the web. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry. If the code doesn't exist, it probably wasn't leaked.
They've been talking about Internet over electrical wires since 96 when nortel started messing around with it in the UK. To date, I haven't been able to find any technical information on it at all. Souds like a good idea though. Imagine it, no one would ever be out of range again! Assuming it IS actually possible.
How could it get any lighter than home edition without becoming windows nt 4? There's a thought...
Why such a hubub?
If they want a fully featured OS, let them use linux. Current incarnations of Windows are still lagging behind it.
I wonder how this would affect the Godaddy unlisted domain name service they offer.
It could be interesting.
Even with false information in the whois; surely the FBI or the MPAA or the RIAA can subpoena the information from the registering authority the domain is registered through.
I doubt that any of that information would be false.
So that brings me to assume that when people are looking at whois information in order to prosecute the owner, and give up on a bad whois, that the issue is either not important enough to pursue further, or that they are too stupid to figure out how to do it.
Either way,
New laws in this area won't change anything. How would you enforce it?
Do we really need more useless tech legislation that can't be enforced?
Sheesh.
Yes, he was using MsBob to power his army activemates, which he was sitting in the pre-school basement poised, and waiting... to take over the world. [insert long drawn out evil laough here]
Or better yet, copyright your digestive track, and sue everyone who's ever eaten a candy bar for infringing on your intelectual prperty. Just when you do, I want a cut...:)
Right, and the fact that all of the contracts involved are murky as hell legally doesn't help matters either. I think it would be funny if they resolved all this legally, only to find out that SCO never owned anything.
I hate to be presumptuous,
but just because someone is distributing something that looks like your product, doesn't necessarily mean that it has your code in it.
Aside from building specific triggers into it that reveal who the author is with a key stroke, or what not, how do you know there has been a GPL violation?
Proving derivative work can be incredibly difficult when there is little or none of the original code left. Look at the SCO case.
And even if they are using your code and not distributing the source; there are ways around distributing the source code and still being in compliance with the general public license. There was an article here recently where Tivo was bragging about doing just that.
They did present evidence.
They've claimed three files!
Hope they keep their mits out of my hard drive. Lord only knows what they would call infringement!
What I'm not understanding (maybe someone can shed some light on this) is how getting the code used in aix and other assorted ibm unix varients proves anything. Even if they could prove that there is dirivitive code in aix (a given), and that there is dirivitive aix code in linux, that still doesn't mean that the dirivitive aix code actually belongs to sco. According to the agreements posted on the sco site that I read, IBM retains the copyrights to all dirivitive works it creates. So where's the problem?
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"The group discounted the recent wave of worms, viruses and other attacks that have affected Windows systems worldwide. It confined the study to overt digital attacks by hackers."
Aren't viruses and worms created by hackers? Don't viruses and worms account for the vast majority of attacks against windows servers?Sure, if you discount the majority of attacks against Windows systems, it suddenly becomes the most secure thing in the world.
That exception makes me question the credibility of this study.
But what do I know?
When I was hiring assistants a few years ago, craig'slist was the only place I looked. I was in SF at the time though. They don't have one for Indy.
If you use these job boards the way you're supposed to use them, then this article is probably right. I have found every job I've ever had on either dice or monster. The way I do it... I cheat.
I indescriminantly send my resume to recruiter I can, if my skills match what they're looking for or not. I get a lot of calls from confused recruiters, but after about a month of doing it for six to ten hours a day, I usually end up getting my resume into the right hands, or hopefully several pairs of right hands. Works every time. Just takes a little patience. There's a lot of competition out there these days.
I like this idea a lot, but it will take fifty years before we're even close to seeing something like this in place. I fear the US is going to fall behind the rest of the world in this respect.
That's right.
Thanks.
SQLite could be packaged into something like that. It would be a lot more powerful than Access. But all database systems are quirky. Hey, Doesn't OO already have a database tool? I'm pretty sure I saw one in that pile of programs it comes with.
It sounds like it's the whole win32 compatibility layer. I could be wrong, but doesn't this mean that reverse engineering Windows interfaces for Linux suddenly just became a whole lot easier?
Doesn't seem to be on Kazaa... Good point though. I'll check the netwroks. Thanks.
I hate to be the nay sayer here, but everyone is talking about this story like it's the real deal, yet no one seems to have come up with a single solitary download URL. If this was the real thing, you would think that such a thing would exist in at least one spot on the web. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry. If the code doesn't exist, it probably wasn't leaked.
I was unable to find Windows.Source.Code.w2k.nt4.wxp.tar Anyone have a URL?
They've been talking about Internet over electrical wires since 96 when nortel started messing around with it in the UK. To date, I haven't been able to find any technical information on it at all. Souds like a good idea though. Imagine it, no one would ever be out of range again! Assuming it IS actually possible.
How could it get any lighter than home edition without becoming windows nt 4? There's a thought... Why such a hubub? If they want a fully featured OS, let them use linux. Current incarnations of Windows are still lagging behind it.
I wonder how this would affect the Godaddy unlisted domain name service they offer. It could be interesting. Even with false information in the whois; surely the FBI or the MPAA or the RIAA can subpoena the information from the registering authority the domain is registered through. I doubt that any of that information would be false. So that brings me to assume that when people are looking at whois information in order to prosecute the owner, and give up on a bad whois, that the issue is either not important enough to pursue further, or that they are too stupid to figure out how to do it. Either way, New laws in this area won't change anything. How would you enforce it? Do we really need more useless tech legislation that can't be enforced? Sheesh.
In a quirk of fate, it turns out that MyDoom was actually written by developers from the future, where every windows ntx bug is known.
These developers were actually looking to earn some extra money for parts for their time machine, so they could get back home.
Who'd have thought?
Yes, he was using MsBob to power his army activemates, which he was sitting in the pre-school basement poised, and waiting... to take over the world. [insert long drawn out evil laough here]
Or better yet, copyright your digestive track, and sue everyone who's ever eaten a candy bar for infringing on your intelectual prperty. Just when you do, I want a cut... :)
I should patent "write code, and win money," no wait, that's exactly what they did. It's not a payment model, it's a sweapstakes.
Yes, but do they jump?
Could you say they're magic jumping business beans, or jumping magic business beans...
The possibilities are endless.
Right, and the fact that all of the contracts involved are murky as hell legally doesn't help matters either. I think it would be funny if they resolved all this legally, only to find out that SCO never owned anything.
I've thoroughly enjoyed Enterprise so far. I would hate for it to be cancelled. Was Jake 2.0 cancelled? I thought it was just on hiatas.
I hate to be presumptuous, but just because someone is distributing something that looks like your product, doesn't necessarily mean that it has your code in it. Aside from building specific triggers into it that reveal who the author is with a key stroke, or what not, how do you know there has been a GPL violation? Proving derivative work can be incredibly difficult when there is little or none of the original code left. Look at the SCO case. And even if they are using your code and not distributing the source; there are ways around distributing the source code and still being in compliance with the general public license. There was an article here recently where Tivo was bragging about doing just that.
That's almost as silly as the time BT tried to sue prodigy because they had patent "the hyper link"
When are people going to realize that you just can't do that?
They did present evidence. They've claimed three files! Hope they keep their mits out of my hard drive. Lord only knows what they would call infringement!
Ah, I see. But is there an alternative interpretation to these contracts?
What I'm not understanding (maybe someone can shed some light on this) is how getting the code used in aix and other assorted ibm unix varients proves anything. Even if they could prove that there is dirivitive code in aix (a given), and that there is dirivitive aix code in linux, that still doesn't mean that the dirivitive aix code actually belongs to sco. According to the agreements posted on the sco site that I read, IBM retains the copyrights to all dirivitive works it creates. So where's the problem?