wait wait wait... so if my company buys widgits from a company that makes them; who really has no use for them except to make money, then i resell them to widgit-happy 12 year olds with fat trust funds at inflated prices that are several levels of order larger than the original buying price, then this is evil? oh... ok. i'll go back to my commune now and denounce all my worldly goods. your last sentance is the only one that saves you. *grin* and i probably would, too.
--bc
hooray for cybersquatters! sticking it to corporate america and beyond since 1997!
*please note: this message is full of sarcasm and cynicism (learn to spell, ya jackass!)* -------------------------------------- ---- the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
moderators -- please give this person some points! i ag-GREE. and there's minimal cost involved in adding mag stripe readers (or bar code readers) to machines when most libraries already have some sort of magnetized or barcoded cards anyway. hell... i'd even bet someone out there would be willing to write the software non-gratis just to get people to shut the hell up about it. ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
what the hell is it with ISP's not answering e-mail anyway?!?!? i have that very same problem with my ISP. isn't that the BUSINESS they are in? cripes.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i'm using newplayer. works great for me... kinda wierd to use. uses curses, but close to command line... at least you don't have to run X. ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
you might not see this, and you might not care, but my comment was based on the final sentancing based down by the judge after his conviction. i think his probation terms may have changed afterwards, though.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
this is where your argument is flawed: all of the different players that you mentioned were LICENSED to decrypt DVDs. no player for Linux, as of yet, has been licensed. And you don't have the right to use a proprietary format on an UNLICENSED platform, which linux is; this, in itself is a form of piracy by definition in the wunnerful USofA. that is the point of all of this. your perception of rights is certainly skewed. if someone were to cough up the cash to have a LICENSED player for Linux, then i'm sure the MPIAA (or whoever it is that actually does the licensing) would be more than happy to extend a license to that player. i just don't think you're gonna see an opensource licensed DVD player for linux (goes against the point of the encryption altogether). and i won't even get into the fact that he pirated xing's master key to do it (not exactly RE, imho) anyway... i'm not saying that i agree with the dvd fiasco. i think that media formats oughtta be based on open standards, not proprietary licensed encryption algos. it potentially gives one company too much power over the format, but that's a whole other argument. in this case, i'm sorry, but the kid blew it. i don't know the laws of.no and i don't pretend to. the kid might be recieving unfair treatment by the standards of law in his country, but if he were here, he'd deserve it. ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
the terms of it are that he can't use computer equipment with any kind of modem or network connection, can't use PC's or coporate computing equipment, etc. the real problem here is ATM machines, which use modem/network connections to connect back to the bank. i feel for him; i couldn't live without my ATM card. *grin* --bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
microsfot.com is still up and still redirects to linux.org... funniest damned thing i've seen yet. i am way surprised we haven't seen it in a quickie or something (maybe we have and i missed it). personally picked up the link on iscabbs.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
any accounting package worth it's nutsack that is sql compliant shouldn't limit itself to M$. i work for a firm that is in the accounting software biz. i asked one of our programmers what it would take me make our software connect to other SQL engines... his response : change an ini file. SQL is sweet as long as you don't fall into the traps of writing exclusively for any one package AND STICK TO THE STANDARD... it is, after all, a standard. Any package that doesn't should be ashamed... imho. ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i blew stewart's threw my nose when i read this. as if anyone could (or would want to) analyze the source for windows. holy christ... just look at the mozilla project. of course the code to MS's TCP stack might be fun to tinker with (not).
l8r.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
accuweather is a joke, my friends... the only thing that's ever been spotted in Galien are cows, farmers, and rednecks. There are probably more cows in Galien than there are people. christ... i went to school in the little town next to galien that looks like a thriving metropolis comparitivly, yet only has 3000 people. yipes. galien shouldn't even be on the map.
rant mode off.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i appreciate your reply and i think it shows you to be a must more thoughtful person than your previous post. i apologize for being so abrasive about it, but i think people on./ put too much into open source/linux and fail to realize that there are other things in the world.
i see your point about protesting, but in a lot of instances, it is the only reaction. the wto is an organisation that the US chose to join (and actually help found), by legislative vote. this is where the line between corporation and government begins to get smeared. in the US, corporations do drive the political system. i think you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. people will get sick of it and some day, when all right criteria are met, people will revolt. but, i think that time is a long way off and another argument entirely.
on that note, protest is our best methodology, but i don't agree with some of the protesters who have taken to looting and violence. this is not the way to raise awareness for your cause. civilised, peaceful protest with the proper media outlets ensures that you are not just protrayed as some leftist radical wackos out for a little joyride.
if one raises awareness for the cause at hand (in this case about what the WTO means to the world's economic and possibly environmental well-being), and the general public is upset about it and start swaying their collective vote towards candidates that don't support the WTO, action will be taken to gain the public opinion back. the us gov may not have much power in the wto, but there are under-the-table politics that exist in any political arena that give them some more lean on what happens there. the scary part is that the wto can nullify any law that it sees as a bear to "competition" among it's member countries. this is where we can petition our government to say "no". protest is a way can achieve this as well.
moral of the story is, the masses are more powerful than the corporations purely because the members of those corporations only have one vote when it comes to election day. controlling public opinion is where it's at, and raising awareness through protest is one way of swaying public opinion, bearing in mind, again, that i am not condoning looting and violence as part of those protest plans (of course the police sometimes cause more of that than the protesters).
anyway... sorry again for my angry post, and i appreciate your reply.
l8r.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i must state that you are a freaking idiot linux zealot! knock it off already! christ! does every fucking thing on earth have to do with that stupid-ass penguin? get a fucking life already.
please... moderate this into oblivion, but i just had to get that off my chest. anti-hippie, pro-linux rhetoric on the subject of the evils of the WTO and someone who is at least trying to protest (you can't protest the evils of the WTO by writing software for the penguin... sorry) has no place in my tolerance today. there are certain things that go beyond the computer industry, my friends. you might want to go out there and experience some of them. ug...
l8r.
--bc
------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
in the climate of today, there is no place for system hacking/cracking. sysadmins look at it as a hostile act whereis in the "old days" a sysadmin was more likely to buy you a beer for pointing out a hole in his system. high-profile malicious hacking/cracking and popular culture has lead to this my friends. i'm just saying that there is no place for it anymore. the scene needs to die anyway. it's like everything else in life, there is no place for irresponsibility. computers are more than the playgrounds and accounting systems of the past. in some cases, people's lives are at stake. but script kiddies and people like yourselves don't give a shit.
and there is a difference. there is an art to it. downloading a crack from a website and using it to exploit a website takes a hell of a lot less effort than growing your own custom packet-sniffing/logging software and dropping it on a box in the broom closet of the local university, filtering for login name password combos, logging into the VAX or unix box, then finding the hole(s). all i have to say is, piss off!
out.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
there once was a time and place for system hacking/cracking, but it is no more... if you're interested in security, play with your own machines, or do something useful with their skills. of course, there is one resource available to these snot-nosed script kiddies that wasn't available before. that is the ability to crack systems with little or no knowledge of the inner workings of the system. it's kinda frustrating to look back and think about the time put into a problem in the "old days" and to see these kids using windows and "xploits" or whatever to crack remote computers in a matter of minutes.
out.
--bc ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i'm assuming this is in addition to the "standard" gear that one carries. if it were me, i'd rackmount a fullsize computer with a 200 cd-rom jukebox, use a multi-channel soundcard (of the variety from hollywood sound) with a seperate external, rack-mount DAC to the analog mixer and out to the amps. all of it in road-cases with shock-protection, of course. use a small 14" monitor with whatever mp3 playback software you prefer, and you'd be in business (hell... winamp supports playing two files to two different sources at once). of course, you're gonna have to be up on your ASCAP and BMI dues to be legal, but that's another story entirely.
1200's sure are a lot cheaper and more fun, though. *grin* ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
as a dj... i would put together "bathroom dats" for when i really needed to go and didn't have an assistant to keep spinning while i was gone. just shove the puppy in the dat, and let it roll. when i asked a copyright lawyer type person about it, they said it was okey dokey as long as i retained the originals and had them present at the gig. seems to me, this would go for mp3s as well... hmm... methinks a laptop with an external scsi array might be in the works. ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
doesn't work for me... don't have emacs installed on any of the boxes that i admin... it's vi or "find another system" for me. ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
oh... so much like what the power company does? ------------------------------------------ the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
hate to burst your bubble, but there is a moderately large socialism movement in the good old USofA and we are aware of the differences between democracy and republicanism, albeit the masses probably aren't. schools here shove children full of flag-waving bullshit about george washington the slave-owner and how wonderful democracy is and how if it's not labeled as democracy, it must be "communism" and "communism is bad". hardly anyone has actually read lenin, but there are some. don't pigeonhole americans, my friend. we're not all bad.
as for disney, i couldn't agree more. his ideas about utopia only included afluent "white folks", but that was the social climate at the time in the US. things have changed quite a bit since then and who's to say that disney might not have viewed that differently. who knows. but, to an extent, we have succeeded in creating some of these socially engineered societies. in fact, i live about 10 miles from a town that is nothing more than a very large subdivision, complete with over 5000 taupe colored homes with BMW's and Lexus's in the driveways. it's sad really, but this is the kind of thing disney dreamed of... a place where common people were at the mercy of the "dreamers". fascist? probably. --------------------------------------- --- the amazing bc latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
wow... now the palmpilot could actually be a viable solution for note-taking and general on-the-road functions that my laptop has been the cumbersome solution for a long time. I'm sure there are many others who carry a $2K+ laptop around just to get a full-size keyboard. just try taking notes in a meeting on one of those sub-size keyboards... hell... laptop keyboards are sometimes too small for me.
now all pop music can be created by formulaic computer programs! i wonder if little 14 year old girls find the latest Dell workstation as sexy as the backdoor boys. and peter cetera won't have to get carpel tunnel up all night transposing last year's easy-listening hit into another key for this year's listening enjoyment... even kenny g can get in on the fun! heavy metal/grunge will never be the same!
YIPPEEEEEEEE!!! You mean no more calls to IBM tech support that begins with you dialing some 800 number, getting a human after 30 minutes listening to IBM propaganda, being told to call another number, more propaganda, being told to call the FIRST number you called, hanging up in frustration and wondering just where in the hell the last 90 minutes went??? Oh, wait... they didn't say they were going to stop selling AS/400's. *grin*
Slashdot Mirror
wait wait wait... so if my company buys widgits from a company that makes them; who really has no use for them except to make money, then i resell them to widgit-happy 12 year olds with fat trust funds at inflated prices that are several levels of order larger than the original buying price, then this is evil? oh... ok. i'll go back to my commune now and denounce all my worldly goods. your last sentance is the only one that saves you. *grin* and i probably would, too.
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--bc
hooray for cybersquatters! sticking it to corporate america and beyond since 1997!
*please note: this message is full of sarcasm and cynicism (learn to spell, ya jackass!)*
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
moderators -- please give this person some points! i ag-GREE. and there's minimal cost involved in adding mag stripe readers (or bar code readers) to machines when most libraries already have some sort of magnetized or barcoded cards anyway. hell... i'd even bet someone out there would be willing to write the software non-gratis just to get people to shut the hell up about it.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
what the hell is it with ISP's not answering e-mail anyway?!?!? i have that very same problem with my ISP. isn't that the BUSINESS they are in? cripes.
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--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i'm using newplayer. works great for me... kinda wierd to use. uses curses, but close to command line... at least you don't have to run X.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
you might not see this, and you might not care, but my comment was based on the final sentancing based down by the judge after his conviction. i think his probation terms may have changed afterwards, though.
-
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
this is where your argument is flawed: all of the different players that you mentioned were LICENSED to decrypt DVDs. no player for Linux, as of yet, has been licensed. And you don't have the right to use a proprietary format on an UNLICENSED platform, which linux is; this, in itself is a form of piracy by definition in the wunnerful USofA. that is the point of all of this. your perception of rights is certainly skewed. if someone were to cough up the cash to have a LICENSED player for Linux, then i'm sure the MPIAA (or whoever it is that actually does the licensing) would be more than happy to extend a license to that player. i just don't think you're gonna see an opensource licensed DVD player for linux (goes against the point of the encryption altogether). and i won't even get into the fact that he pirated xing's master key to do it (not exactly RE, imho) anyway... i'm not saying that i agree with the dvd fiasco. i think that media formats oughtta be based on open standards, not proprietary licensed encryption algos. it potentially gives one company too much power over the format, but that's a whole other argument. in this case, i'm sorry, but the kid blew it. i don't know the laws of .no and i don't pretend to. the kid might be recieving unfair treatment by the standards of law in his country, but if he were here, he'd deserve it.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
the terms of it are that he can't use computer equipment with any kind of modem or network connection, can't use PC's or coporate computing equipment, etc. the real problem here is ATM machines, which use modem/network connections to connect back to the bank. i feel for him; i couldn't live without my ATM card. *grin* --bc
the amazing bc
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latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
microsfot.com is still up and still redirects to linux.org... funniest damned thing i've seen yet. i am way surprised we haven't seen it in a quickie or something (maybe we have and i missed it). personally picked up the link on iscabbs.
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--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
any accounting package worth it's nutsack that is sql compliant shouldn't limit itself to M$. i work for a firm that is in the accounting software biz. i asked one of our programmers what it would take me make our software connect to other SQL engines... his response : change an ini file. SQL is sweet as long as you don't fall into the traps of writing exclusively for any one package AND STICK TO THE STANDARD... it is, after all, a standard. Any package that doesn't should be ashamed... imho.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i blew stewart's threw my nose when i read this. as if anyone could (or would want to) analyze the source for windows. holy christ... just look at the mozilla project. of course the code to MS's TCP stack might be fun to tinker with (not).
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l8r.
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
accuweather is a joke, my friends... the only thing that's ever been spotted in Galien are cows, farmers, and rednecks. There are probably more cows in Galien than there are people. christ... i went to school in the little town next to galien that looks like a thriving metropolis comparitivly, yet only has 3000 people. yipes. galien shouldn't even be on the map.
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rant mode off.
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i appreciate your reply and i think it shows you to be a must more thoughtful person than your previous post. i apologize for being so abrasive about it, but i think people on ./ put too much into open source/linux and fail to realize that there are other things in the world.
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i see your point about protesting, but in a lot of instances, it is the only reaction. the wto is an organisation that the US chose to join (and actually help found), by legislative vote. this is where the line between corporation and government begins to get smeared. in the US, corporations do drive the political system. i think you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. people will get sick of it and some day, when all right criteria are met, people will revolt. but, i think that time is a long way off and another argument entirely.
on that note, protest is our best methodology, but i don't agree with some of the protesters who have taken to looting and violence. this is not the way to raise awareness for your cause. civilised, peaceful protest with the proper media outlets ensures that you are not just protrayed as some leftist radical wackos out for a little joyride.
if one raises awareness for the cause at hand (in this case about what the WTO means to the world's economic and possibly environmental well-being), and the general public is upset about it and start swaying their collective vote towards candidates that don't support the WTO, action will be taken to gain the public opinion back. the us gov may not have much power in the wto, but there are under-the-table politics that exist in any political arena that give them some more lean on what happens there. the scary part is that the wto can nullify any law that it sees as a bear to "competition" among it's member countries. this is where we can petition our government to say "no". protest is a way can achieve this as well.
moral of the story is, the masses are more powerful than the corporations purely because the members of those corporations only have one vote when it comes to election day. controlling public opinion is where it's at, and raising awareness through protest is one way of swaying public opinion, bearing in mind, again, that i am not condoning looting and violence as part of those protest plans (of course the police sometimes cause more of that than the protesters).
anyway... sorry again for my angry post, and i appreciate your reply.
l8r.
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i must state that you are a freaking idiot linux zealot! knock it off already! christ! does every fucking thing on earth have to do with that stupid-ass penguin? get a fucking life already.
please... moderate this into oblivion, but i just had to get that off my chest. anti-hippie, pro-linux rhetoric on the subject of the evils of the WTO and someone who is at least trying to protest (you can't protest the evils of the WTO by writing software for the penguin... sorry) has no place in my tolerance today. there are certain things that go beyond the computer industry, my friends. you might want to go out there and experience some of them. ug...
l8r.
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
in the climate of today, there is no place for system hacking/cracking. sysadmins look at it as a hostile act whereis in the "old days" a sysadmin was more likely to buy you a beer for pointing out a hole in his system. high-profile malicious hacking/cracking and popular culture has lead to this my friends. i'm just saying that there is no place for it anymore. the scene needs to die anyway. it's like everything else in life, there is no place for irresponsibility. computers are more than the playgrounds and accounting systems of the past. in some cases, people's lives are at stake. but script kiddies and people like yourselves don't give a shit.
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and there is a difference. there is an art to it. downloading a crack from a website and using it to exploit a website takes a hell of a lot less effort than growing your own custom packet-sniffing/logging software and dropping it on a box in the broom closet of the local university, filtering for login name password combos, logging into the VAX or unix box, then finding the hole(s). all i have to say is, piss off!
out.
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
there once was a time and place for system hacking/cracking, but it is no more... if you're interested in security, play with your own machines, or do something useful with their skills. of course, there is one resource available to these snot-nosed script kiddies that wasn't available before. that is the ability to crack systems with little or no knowledge of the inner workings of the system. it's kinda frustrating to look back and think about the time put into a problem in the "old days" and to see these kids using windows and "xploits" or whatever to crack remote computers in a matter of minutes.
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out.
--bc
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
i'm assuming this is in addition to the "standard" gear that one carries. if it were me, i'd rackmount a fullsize computer with a 200 cd-rom jukebox, use a multi-channel soundcard (of the variety from hollywood sound) with a seperate external, rack-mount DAC to the analog mixer and out to the amps. all of it in road-cases with shock-protection, of course. use a small 14" monitor with whatever mp3 playback software you prefer, and you'd be in business (hell... winamp supports playing two files to two different sources at once). of course, you're gonna have to be up on your ASCAP and BMI dues to be legal, but that's another story entirely.
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1200's sure are a lot cheaper and more fun, though. *grin*
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
as a dj... i would put together "bathroom dats" for when i really needed to go and didn't have an assistant to keep spinning while i was gone. just shove the puppy in the dat, and let it roll. when i asked a copyright lawyer type person about it, they said it was okey dokey as long as i retained the originals and had them present at the gig. seems to me, this would go for mp3s as well... hmm... methinks a laptop with an external scsi array might be in the works.-
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
doesn't work for me... don't have emacs installed on any of the boxes that i admin... it's vi or "find another system" for me.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
oh... so much like what the power company does?
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
them samned aliens'll be havin' themselves one uh them there ipo thingies... algae today, aliens tomorrow, that's what i always say.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
hate to burst your bubble, but there is a moderately large socialism movement in the good old USofA and we are aware of the differences between democracy and republicanism, albeit the masses probably aren't. schools here shove children full of flag-waving bullshit about george washington the slave-owner and how wonderful democracy is and how if it's not labeled as democracy, it must be "communism" and "communism is bad". hardly anyone has actually read lenin, but there are some. don't pigeonhole americans, my friend. we're not all bad.
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as for disney, i couldn't agree more. his ideas about utopia only included afluent "white folks", but that was the social climate at the time in the US. things have changed quite a bit since then and who's to say that disney might not have viewed that differently. who knows. but, to an extent, we have succeeded in creating some of these socially engineered societies. in fact, i live about 10 miles from a town that is nothing more than a very large subdivision, complete with over 5000 taupe colored homes with BMW's and Lexus's in the driveways. it's sad really, but this is the kind of thing disney dreamed of... a place where common people were at the mercy of the "dreamers". fascist? probably.
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the amazing bc
latin/funk flugelhorn & trumpet
webnaut, music junkie, sysadmin from hell
wow... now the palmpilot could actually be a viable solution for note-taking and general on-the-road functions that my laptop has been the cumbersome solution for a long time. I'm sure there are many others who carry a $2K+ laptop around just to get a full-size keyboard. just try taking notes in a meeting on one of those sub-size keyboards... hell... laptop keyboards are sometimes too small for me.
anyway...
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Now if they just made a PoliticianBot, we'd all be in business.
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now all pop music can be created by formulaic computer programs! i wonder if little 14 year old girls find the latest Dell workstation as sexy as the backdoor boys. and peter cetera won't have to get carpel tunnel up all night transposing last year's easy-listening hit into another key for this year's listening enjoyment... even kenny g can get in on the fun! heavy metal/grunge will never be the same!
too much.
--bc
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YIPPEEEEEEEE!!! You mean no more calls to IBM tech support that begins with you dialing some 800 number, getting a human after 30 minutes listening to IBM propaganda, being told to call another number, more propaganda, being told to call the FIRST number you called, hanging up in frustration and wondering just where in the hell the last 90 minutes went??? Oh, wait... they didn't say they were going to stop selling AS/400's. *grin*
--bc
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