Well, I wouldn't mod it down - what gp said is a common stereotype associated with lcd monitors - so I don't think he or she had an evil intent or something:) - that stereotype was true a few years ago, but no longer.:)))
I created a journal entry for would be LCD buyers where I might answer some further questions about various LCD technologies, give some tips about settings for linux/unix, etc. (I'm the maintainer of a site that collects information about various models: links to reviews, the panel used in them (there are far fewer panel manufacturers than monitor vendors) etc.)
That should be moderated as disinformative. What you claim is no longer true. True, you'll never get perfect black on cheap tft monitors with tn+film panels. But you'll get very good black - as good as your better-than-average CRT - on a samsung 193p (or dell 1905fp, which has the same panel).
It all depends on what kind of panel type it has.
TN+film panels: they are the fastest, and on the new lesser than 12ms response time monitors you'll not see any difference b/w a crt and a tft. Downside is that they don't have good blacks (although there there are some good quality tn+film panels that are not that bad) and they have a narrower viewing angles.
S-IPS panels (APPLE uses S-IPS exclusively) - they are slower than tn+film, but have wider viewing angles and better blacks (although they take on a bluish/violet tint viewed form extreme angles).
MVA/PVA good viewing angles, good color reproduction, good blacks, slowest (not good for FPS games). PVA is Samsung's own variant of MVA, and it is supposed to be better than traditional MVA panels, but lately various panel manufacturers (AU Optronics, Fujitsu) improved on MVA - Premium-MVA, S(uper)-MVA etc.
Here is some info about the type of panels some monitors have.
I bought a viewsonic vx912 a few weeks ago. Prior to buying, I bumped into a forum discussion about various technological aspects of different panel types (tn+film, S-IPS, mva). It was an interesting topic, and after a joined in, we decided to compile a table that shows what type of panel each specific monitor has. You can see the results here. (it is in Hungarian, but the table should be still readable and useful). It is still at a BETA stage, and it's aim is to help would-be customers to decide which monitor to buy. For instance, sometimes you will find exactly the same panel in two different types of monitors - and you will be surprised at the lenght some manufacturers (notably LG) goes in lying about their specs. Anyway, I hope that link is useful.
Ah, thank you:)) I am yet to test the upgrade process - I just began using it recently. I wonder how smoothly it goes (I mean importing the database backups). I am something of a noob in this, but I found running geeklog not very difficult. I haven't tried Gallery yet, but I had some problems with themes as well - they need extensive testing, for some of the themes, even the more recent ones, seems to have some glitches. I found this one (I think it's called smooth blue) to be working pretty well, but both sites are still at a beta stage:)
How does wordpress compare to geeklog? I've been using geeklog for a site dedicated to finding out about the panels used in various lcd monitors and I was planning to use wordpress for another project. Geeklog comes with SpamX as a default plugin that does a pretty good job at stopping spam comments (and sites like groklaw use geeklog) - so what's so cool about wordpress? I was attracted to it by the professional look on their website, but except fo that, at first glance it didn't have anything special...
Have you tried it? Adobe7 loads as fast as xpdf (approximately), but it renders documents a lot faster:) btw I was surprised at the "news", for portupgrade (freebsd) replaced my acrobat5 to 7 a week or so ago. I was thinking the same way you did, but my expectations were based on my experience with 5. When I tried it actually, I replaced kghostview as the default pdf viewer to acrobat in firefox (and elsewhere) - because it is fast, it displays pdf correctly - not that xpdf doesn't, I just like the fact that I don't have to zoom all the time (and wait) because acro fits the image/document to (full)screen automatically. It also has niceties like settings for LCD displays (I own one, so this is a godsend).
Try it first, compare it with xpdf, and choose what suits your need - just dont' discard it offhand, because it is a Good Thing >)
Yes, I'm implying that the BSD (and MIT) gives more freedom to the user. I think "you can do whatever you want, just don't claim you wrote it" is more freedom than "you can use and distribute it as long as..."
However, I don't think BSD license gives total freedom to the developer. The developer's freedom lies in the choice: BSD-like or (L)GPL. What I meant to say is that there is a perspective from which BSD license can mean more freedom. There are other perspectives. Choosing the gpl for the linux kernel was a good choice at that time and it is still a good choice - even a better choice than the BSD perhaps. I simply tried to explain why certain developers chose simple licences like beerware or bsd: not necessarily because it is cool, and not necessarily because of their altruism - there is a more practical reason for that.
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I was wondering whether this is connected in any way with Trolltech releasing win32 version of QT under GPL (which means that you can develop GPL compatible code using it - for instance, mosfet's stuff for KDE was released under a BSD licence)
The reason I was thinking about this is that these are C++ and we know that Adobe bought a licence from Trolltech to develop one of their progs (which was it? Photo Album) in QT. If they had already a QT licence, and they develop in C++, it is reasonable to think that they would use the best tool for the job (which is qt for c++) to develop not only PhotoAlbum, but the rest of their c++ codebase.
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Some folks misundertand parts of the reason some developers use the BSD licence: it is not just more altruistic or something, it can be more practical. I remember an outburst from an mplayer developer saying that he sees no point in the gpl, for they have no means to prevent misuse anyway. Also, once you use the GPL, you have to keep on eye on violations, you have to keep vigilant, otherwise, what's the point of using it? So, some devs think that they don't want to be concerned with possible violations, they don't recurrent themes of whether or not it is okay to write binary only drivers for the kernel because of the GPL, and so on. They want to program and that's it. This might be the spirit some refer to as "academic".
Some developers go farther than this, and think that even the two clause BSD licence is too much legalese. Hence, code written by Poul-Henning Kamp is distributed under the beerware licence:))) (hence my reply to your post) - this is how it look like:
* "THE BEER-WARE LICENSE" (Revision 42): * phkATFreeBSD.ORG wrote this file. As long as you retain this notice you * can do whatever you want with this stuff. If we meet some day, and you think * this stuff is worth it, you can buy me a beer in return Poul-Henning Kamp */</blockquote>
Whether or not you agree one agrees with him (I understand the point and usefulness of the GPL very well btw) - one has to admit that sometimes this kinda licence might give more freedom not only to the user, but to the developer(s) as well in the sense that a 3rd party vendor writing a binary driver or piece of code won't cause a shitstorm on the BSD kernel mailing list (as Brandybuck put it in one of his posts:))))
It makes it incompatible with GPL just like the original BSD license
No, it does not. It prevents you from stripping off the copyright notice, just like GPL or current BSD licence does.
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Zedrick, you are not alone. I'm not a comp sci student (what I do is on my user page), but a few years ago I got curious about linux. So I installed rh 7.3 (which just came out fresh at that time). Later, I went through two mandrake releases (9.0 and 9.1). By that time, this whole nix thingy picked my interest, so I decided to learn the unix way - with the intent of setting up my first server. So I installed debian. Everytime I switched, I was presented with different sets of problems (different places for different setup files). I was dedicated to learning to use the command line and not rely on various frontends. One of the first concerns when one is intent to set up a server is the firewall. So I went to netfilter homepage, and bang! I tried and tried, and finally I went the frontend way: shorewall.
Downloaded documentation of shorewall, began reading it, noticed that it needs a newer kernel than the one installed (yeah, it was 2.4.18) with Debian. So I went on to pull that from the STABLE branch - which resulted in the disappearance of my/etc/networks. By that time I was so frustrated (by my attempts to get my usb mouse working) that I was beginning to look for alternatives. One sysadmin (knowing that my english is pretty good - not my native tongue mind you) recommended FreeBSD. I was pretty tentative at first, decided to try it out on a spare partition (luckily I had one primary) on my home computer, before putting it on my server. A week later, it was running my server (and instead of editing 3 separate files in shorewall, I could set up NAT + a pretty tight firewall in a few days). Two weeks later my linux partition was gone. A few months later I became active in the freebsd community at bsdforums. That was my second big surprise: it was the friendliest community I ever participated in (and I'm saying that coming from a mandrake background). And I've been happy ever since.
The reason for this longish post is that I think there is another potential user-base for FreeBSD: noobs who want to learn the unix way. It is one of the user-friendliest unix-like operating system. The entire layout, the configuration is so clean, elegant and easy (because it is logical) that learning it was a joyful activity, while I remember that I was quickly bored when trying to follow this or that howto or tutorial to learn linux. It is not for those who are looking for a quick replacement for windows (like I was at first) - but for anyone interest in the internals of a unix-like OS, FreeBSD is among the easier to understand and learn ones.
I agree with you - just some additional remarks about ports and portage.
In my experience, ports doesn't lag too far behind portage - it's somewhere between the portage stable branch and current. As the complexity of a package (and it's impact on other ports) grows, so does the time port maintainers spend testing them. Just to give a good idea of how much ports is up to date (or not):
If we take the GIMP for example, usually it is in ports the day it is announced. That speaks volumes of it's portability/cleanness of the code base. On the other hand, as important as it may be, it doesn't affect much other ports.
Then let's see KDE. KDE becomes part of ports (and the package repository) usually a few weeks after the announcment. If I remember correctly, one of the 3.2 releases was in ports some 3-4 days after release. On the other hand, 3.3.2 took 2 week to get there. That isn't much of a lag, now is it?
And finally: Xorg. Xorg affects many many ports, so there is usually a lot more time spent in testing then with the packages I just mentioned. We are still at 6.8.1, although 6.8.2 is coming as you can see from this mailing list post.
Generally, ports is quite up to date. There are weekly updates to OpenOffice.org 2.0 - probably because it is independent from other ports. Also, the most important package are updated pretty fast (I had PHP 5.0.3 running before the announcment of the security fix release hit slashdot). Others, however, lag behind somewhat. We don't have KDE 3.4beta in ports for example, while I guess it is already in portage.
As I said, I don't disagree with what you wrote, I just wanted to give a general impression about the freshness of ports for other readers (check out freshports to learn more.
Yeah, they may have been a lots of problems with 5.3-release - I don't know any for I didn't experience them, but still. On the other hand, most of those problems have been solved in STABLE, and 5.4 will be a kick-ass release. I described one improvement here
As to FreeBSD not getting the love it used to - well, the massive amount of flames developers/users get by anonymous cowards might have given you that impression, but I don't think this is the case. The community/user-base is growing at a fast pace (if bsdforums membership growth can be taken as a sign of that - even though I realize bsdforums covers all bsd's, still the largest number of questions come from users trying out FreeBSD) Also, how much of that buzz is created by NetBSD folks?
Yeah a totally related copy and paste job of a few years old mailing list message posted over and over and over again here on slashdot as flamebait. Mode down please.
Were it for any other company, I very much doubt that the entire./ would be so eager to try justifying its actions. Double standards?
Anyway, the question is not whether a criminal action has taken place or not here? Yes, there might be someone who broke the law by violating an NDA. The question is, whether or not Apple is justified to harrass the messenger? EFF seems to take an issue here because Apple's actions disrupt or threaten the operation of the site and its maintainers.
And remember, whether or not you fundamentally *agree* with the law is irrelevant. It's either illegal, or not. (Yes, yes, sure, there's gray areas, but that's not the point I'm making.
Indeed... it is not the point you are making, but a point which you are conveniently avoiding, even though it is probably the most important point here: this is not a black and white issue. Should the site maintainer punished in any way (no one thinks that they will be thrown in jail - as I said, it's about interfering with the operation of the site) because they might use sources that might have violated a law? Wouldn't this set a bad precedent? It happened many times that a vital information reached the public via not exactly lawful sources. Did Apple suffer in any way because of this leakage btw? I don't think so. However, if it can force these journalists to reveal their sources, what kind of message would this send out? Remember the Halloween documents? Well, someone obviously has broken an NDA by leaking Microsoft's internal memo's. If Apple is right in pursuing these journalists, than Microsoft is right to use its legal muscle to force Eric Raymond to reveal his sources as well. That is why I agree with the EFF here,but it doesn't matter anyhow as long as the/. crowd is that eager to justify Apple's actions.
It becomes more and more ridiculous how predictable/. has become in treating Apple as the white cow of the industry, no matter how ridiculous or outright unjustifiable its actions may be - before using your mod points, just think of this: can you say with a straight face that if Microsoft was pursuing the same strategy against journalists you would try to justify its actions with the same fervor you do in Apple's case?
It is almost a pity that ULE came back online just recently. I would be very much interested in a test with the ULE scheduler as well. See this post.I've been stress-testing it in the past few days (capturing tv progs with rtrpio 0 on mplayer into divx5 624x468 all filters - hqdn3d,hb/vb/dr/lb/ etc. - on in 4800 bitrate - on my athlon xp 2400+ and a very crappy capture card) - and so far, no problems.
Nevertheless, this is a very good benchmark conducted in a fair manner. I was pretty much surprised at how the guy lacking support (from Solaris no less) went on to find out by himself how to increase performance. This also underlies the point made by many in the "netbsd vs. free" benchmarK about the focus of FreeBSD being SMP in the past few years... which has payed off nicely it seems.
Not to mention that some acronyms might have not so positive meanings in other language. You don't want me to explain what FOS means in Hungarian (my native language).
No, you are talking about beta software. Safari support will be there, and what they do doesn't screw anyone. What do you have in mind when talking about "not exactly cross platform"? Not exactly cross browser would be more accurate, were it not for the fact that we are talking about beta software that promises support for all major browsers.
This is nothing like MS not supporting png for instance, (or did not for a long time) forcing me to use crappy gif images for transparent logos and such. Therefore, MS screws me. It also screws many users, even without them noticing it. I have no problem with windows (I think it's not a bad desktop OS), I have a problem with the price tag, which is unrealistic IMHO. Part of the strategy of keeping that price tag is vendor lockin, which goes hand in hand with disregarding standards. GoogleMaps, a free service, supporting multiple browsers (and therefore: multiple platforms) is nothing like that. Who is exactly the victim of Google's practices?
Yeah, php works just fine with apache2 (for me at least) - and I using threading (not prefork) - which is double no-no according to rumours. See here (lately not shown b/c firewall servertoken settings, but php is there, well, and healthy).
Yeah, documentation! Which reminds me of the community, which is just great. I came to FreeBSD from a mandrake background (mandrakusers.org and pclinuxonline forums) - so I was a bit afraid that freebsd users are probably too geekish for my taste or something. What a pleasant surprise! Even after the positive experience on mandrakusers, bsdforums seemed even more friendlier. Sure, you are expected to read the documentation, but even if you made zero effort to do so you are directed to the handbook in a polite manner (no rtfm). And bsdforums is a wealth of knowledge. I didn't feel the need to post for 3 months, found almost anything I wanted via the search feature.
Anyway, although this is not the most important factor in deciding which OS to choose, it can still matter. I am very grateful to the FreeBSD user community for their patience to help out a noob like I was back when I tried it out. There is also a linux section on freebsdforums.org - and contrary to what some troll would have you believe, most freebsd users either run linux as well or don't care about linux at all. And if you are looking for positive linux reviews, you can find many of them on - surprise surprise - bsdforums (I read raves about mandrake, gentoo, etc.). I just thought that I'd mention this if someone had the same apprehension I had 1.5 years ago.
Do you know what you are talking about? It seems more and more likely you don't. OpenBSD devs had a number of problems with the apache project. One was licencing issues, so they don't have apache2 included in the base system (you are still free to install it via ports). The other gripe was (and this is quite well known for it was publicized a few times even here on./) that apache.org was slow/reluctant to include all the security fixes the openbsd project submitted - after auditing the code. The apache 1.3.x version is a security enchanched version of the normal 1.3-release.
And that was just one example of your ignorance. Now, would you be so kind as to stop posting crap please? There is a difference between the security of say linux (or even FreeBSD) and OpenBSD. OpenBSD isn't completely secure, no one claims that. It is more secure by default even if you allow services. Not to mention the fact that pf eats iptables for breakfast (now also part of FreeBSD's base system).
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Well, I wouldn't mod it down - what gp said is a common stereotype associated with lcd monitors - so I don't think he or she had an evil intent or something :) - that stereotype was true a few years ago, but no longer. :)))
I created a journal entry for would be LCD buyers where I might answer some further questions about various LCD technologies, give some tips about settings for linux/unix, etc. (I'm the maintainer of a site that collects information about various models: links to reviews, the panel used in them (there are far fewer panel manufacturers than monitor vendors) etc.)
It all depends on what kind of panel type it has.
- TN+film panels: they are the fastest, and on the new lesser than 12ms response time monitors you'll not see any difference b/w a crt and a tft. Downside is that they don't have good blacks (although there there are some good quality tn+film panels that are not that bad) and they have a narrower viewing angles.
- S-IPS panels (APPLE uses S-IPS exclusively) - they are slower than tn+film, but have wider viewing angles and better blacks (although they take on a bluish/violet tint viewed form extreme angles).
- MVA/PVA good viewing angles, good color reproduction, good blacks, slowest (not good for FPS games). PVA is Samsung's own variant of MVA, and it is supposed to be better than traditional MVA panels, but lately various panel manufacturers (AU Optronics, Fujitsu) improved on MVA - Premium-MVA, S(uper)-MVA etc.
Here is some info about the type of panels some monitors have.I bought a viewsonic vx912 a few weeks ago. Prior to buying, I bumped into a forum discussion about various technological aspects of different panel types (tn+film, S-IPS, mva). It was an interesting topic, and after a joined in, we decided to compile a table that shows what type of panel each specific monitor has. You can see the results here. (it is in Hungarian, but the table should be still readable and useful). It is still at a BETA stage, and it's aim is to help would-be customers to decide which monitor to buy. For instance, sometimes you will find exactly the same panel in two different types of monitors - and you will be surprised at the lenght some manufacturers (notably LG) goes in lying about their specs. Anyway, I hope that link is useful.
Ah hah! I just clicked the link to your homepage :))) I guess the Smooth_Blue theme is not a coincidence :)
Thanks for your comment again, it's appreciated :)
How does wordpress compare to geeklog? I've been using geeklog for a site dedicated to finding out about the panels used in various lcd monitors and I was planning to use wordpress for another project. Geeklog comes with SpamX as a default plugin that does a pretty good job at stopping spam comments (and sites like groklaw use geeklog) - so what's so cool about wordpress? I was attracted to it by the professional look on their website, but except fo that, at first glance it didn't have anything special...
Try it first, compare it with xpdf, and choose what suits your need - just dont' discard it offhand, because it is a Good Thing >)
However, I don't think BSD license gives total freedom to the developer. The developer's freedom lies in the choice: BSD-like or (L)GPL. What I meant to say is that there is a perspective from which BSD license can mean more freedom. There are other perspectives. Choosing the gpl for the linux kernel was a good choice at that time and it is still a good choice - even a better choice than the BSD perhaps. I simply tried to explain why certain developers chose simple licences like beerware or bsd: not necessarily because it is cool, and not necessarily because of their altruism - there is a more practical reason for that.
I was wondering whether this is connected in any way with Trolltech releasing win32 version of QT under GPL (which means that you can develop GPL compatible code using it - for instance, mosfet's stuff for KDE was released under a BSD licence)
The reason I was thinking about this is that these are C++ and we know that Adobe bought a licence from Trolltech to develop one of their progs (which was it? Photo Album) in QT. If they had already a QT licence, and they develop in C++, it is reasonable to think that they would use the best tool for the job (which is qt for c++) to develop not only PhotoAlbum, but the rest of their c++ codebase.
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Some developers go farther than this, and think that even the two clause BSD licence is too much legalese. Hence, code written by Poul-Henning Kamp is distributed under the beerware licence :))) (hence my reply to your post) - this is how it look like:
No, it does not. It prevents you from stripping off the copyright notice, just like GPL or current BSD licence does.
Downloaded documentation of shorewall, began reading it, noticed that it needs a newer kernel than the one installed (yeah, it was 2.4.18) with Debian. So I went on to pull that from the STABLE branch - which resulted in the disappearance of my /etc/networks. By that time I was so frustrated (by my attempts to get my usb mouse working) that I was beginning to look for alternatives. One sysadmin (knowing that my english is pretty good - not my native tongue mind you) recommended FreeBSD. I was pretty tentative at first, decided to try it out on a spare partition (luckily I had one primary) on my home computer, before putting it on my server. A week later, it was running my server (and instead of editing 3 separate files in shorewall, I could set up NAT + a pretty tight firewall in a few days). Two weeks later my linux partition was gone. A few months later I became active in the freebsd community at bsdforums. That was my second big surprise: it was the friendliest community I ever participated in (and I'm saying that coming from a mandrake background). And I've been happy ever since.
The reason for this longish post is that I think there is another potential user-base for FreeBSD: noobs who want to learn the unix way. It is one of the user-friendliest unix-like operating system. The entire layout, the configuration is so clean, elegant and easy (because it is logical) that learning it was a joyful activity, while I remember that I was quickly bored when trying to follow this or that howto or tutorial to learn linux. It is not for those who are looking for a quick replacement for windows (like I was at first) - but for anyone interest in the internals of a unix-like OS, FreeBSD is among the easier to understand and learn ones.
Have a nice stay in FreeBSD land :))))
In my experience, ports doesn't lag too far behind portage - it's somewhere between the portage stable branch and current. As the complexity of a package (and it's impact on other ports) grows, so does the time port maintainers spend testing them. Just to give a good idea of how much ports is up to date (or not):
If we take the GIMP for example, usually it is in ports the day it is announced. That speaks volumes of it's portability/cleanness of the code base. On the other hand, as important as it may be, it doesn't affect much other ports.
Then let's see KDE. KDE becomes part of ports (and the package repository) usually a few weeks after the announcment. If I remember correctly, one of the 3.2 releases was in ports some 3-4 days after release. On the other hand, 3.3.2 took 2 week to get there. That isn't much of a lag, now is it?
And finally: Xorg. Xorg affects many many ports, so there is usually a lot more time spent in testing then with the packages I just mentioned. We are still at 6.8.1, although 6.8.2 is coming as you can see from this mailing list post.
Generally, ports is quite up to date. There are weekly updates to OpenOffice.org 2.0 - probably because it is independent from other ports. Also, the most important package are updated pretty fast (I had PHP 5.0.3 running before the announcment of the security fix release hit slashdot). Others, however, lag behind somewhat. We don't have KDE 3.4beta in ports for example, while I guess it is already in portage.
As I said, I don't disagree with what you wrote, I just wanted to give a general impression about the freshness of ports for other readers (check out freshports to learn more.
As to FreeBSD not getting the love it used to - well, the massive amount of flames developers/users get by anonymous cowards might have given you that impression, but I don't think this is the case. The community/user-base is growing at a fast pace (if bsdforums membership growth can be taken as a sign of that - even though I realize bsdforums covers all bsd's, still the largest number of questions come from users trying out FreeBSD) Also, how much of that buzz is created by NetBSD folks?
Yeah a totally related copy and paste job of a few years old mailing list message posted over and over and over again here on slashdot as flamebait. Mode down please.
Anyway, the question is not whether a criminal action has taken place or not here? Yes, there might be someone who broke the law by violating an NDA. The question is, whether or not Apple is justified to harrass the messenger? EFF seems to take an issue here because Apple's actions disrupt or threaten the operation of the site and its maintainers.
And remember, whether or not you fundamentally *agree* with the law is irrelevant. It's either illegal, or not. (Yes, yes, sure, there's gray areas, but that's not the point I'm making.
Indeed... it is not the point you are making, but a point which you are conveniently avoiding, even though it is probably the most important point here: this is not a black and white issue. Should the site maintainer punished in any way (no one thinks that they will be thrown in jail - as I said, it's about interfering with the operation of the site) because they might use sources that might have violated a law? Wouldn't this set a bad precedent? It happened many times that a vital information reached the public via not exactly lawful sources. Did Apple suffer in any way because of this leakage btw? I don't think so. However, if it can force these journalists to reveal their sources, what kind of message would this send out? Remember the Halloween documents? Well, someone obviously has broken an NDA by leaking Microsoft's internal memo's. If Apple is right in pursuing these journalists, than Microsoft is right to use its legal muscle to force Eric Raymond to reveal his sources as well. That is why I agree with the EFF here,but it doesn't matter anyhow as long as the /. crowd is that eager to justify Apple's actions.
It becomes more and more ridiculous how predictable /. has become in treating Apple as the white cow of the industry, no matter how ridiculous or outright unjustifiable its actions may be - before using your mod points, just think of this: can you say with a straight face that if Microsoft was pursuing the same strategy against journalists you would try to justify its actions with the same fervor you do in Apple's case?
Nevertheless, this is a very good benchmark conducted in a fair manner. I was pretty much surprised at how the guy lacking support (from Solaris no less) went on to find out by himself how to increase performance. This also underlies the point made by many in the "netbsd vs. free" benchmarK about the focus of FreeBSD being SMP in the past few years ... which has payed off nicely it seems.
Not to mention that some acronyms might have not so positive meanings in other language. You don't want me to explain what FOS means in Hungarian (my native language).
This is more cute than that. Gulliver and all.
And it isn't even on fruitsalad, though it doesn't belong to linux either.
This is nothing like MS not supporting png for instance, (or did not for a long time) forcing me to use crappy gif images for transparent logos and such. Therefore, MS screws me. It also screws many users, even without them noticing it. I have no problem with windows (I think it's not a bad desktop OS), I have a problem with the price tag, which is unrealistic IMHO. Part of the strategy of keeping that price tag is vendor lockin, which goes hand in hand with disregarding standards. GoogleMaps, a free service, supporting multiple browsers (and therefore: multiple platforms) is nothing like that. Who is exactly the victim of Google's practices?
Yeah, php works just fine with apache2 (for me at least) - and I using threading (not prefork) - which is double no-no according to rumours. See here (lately not shown b/c firewall servertoken settings, but php is there, well, and healthy).
Anyway, although this is not the most important factor in deciding which OS to choose, it can still matter. I am very grateful to the FreeBSD user community for their patience to help out a noob like I was back when I tried it out. There is also a linux section on freebsdforums.org - and contrary to what some troll would have you believe, most freebsd users either run linux as well or don't care about linux at all. And if you are looking for positive linux reviews, you can find many of them on - surprise surprise - bsdforums (I read raves about mandrake, gentoo, etc.). I just thought that I'd mention this if someone had the same apprehension I had 1.5 years ago.
Do you know what you are talking about? It seems more and more likely you don't. OpenBSD devs had a number of problems with the apache project. One was licencing issues, so they don't have apache2 included in the base system (you are still free to install it via ports). The other gripe was (and this is quite well known for it was publicized a few times even here on ./) that apache.org was slow/reluctant to include all the security fixes the openbsd project submitted - after auditing the code. The apache 1.3.x version is a security enchanched version of the normal 1.3-release.
And that was just one example of your ignorance. Now, would you be so kind as to stop posting crap please? There is a difference between the security of say linux (or even FreeBSD) and OpenBSD. OpenBSD isn't completely secure, no one claims that. It is more secure by default even if you allow services. Not to mention the fact that pf eats iptables for breakfast (now also part of FreeBSD's base system).