The PHP script above doesn't keep MSIE users from viewing the site, it only redirects them to a page which asks them to use a different browser or view a version of the site with a "lite" style sheet with standards-based yet non-MSIE compatible functions.
It lets people know that MSIE is not standards-based and that there are better alternatives out there. This is precisely what the MSN website does when you try to view one of their news videos -- Windows/IE only, with links to download IE or buy Windows.
PayPal screwed me out of money. I sold a computer to someone and it was slightly damaged during shipping. Rather than call me about it, the guy called PayPal who told him that they could do nothing about it. So then he called me and we resolved it... I shipped him a new one, he sent the old one back, I got credit for it and in the end I was out the shipping fees and nothing more. Except that PayPal froze my account because the customer called them. That was last fall, and my PayPal account with all of the money I had in there is still frozen to this day.
Now I suppose you're going to accuse me of working for PayPal's competition? I find it more likely that you are a PayPal astroturfer. If you're not, let me buy something from you and I will show you how the wrath of PayPal can ruin your business.
And just what the hell will happen if you're giving a speech or performance for 10k people? All looking at you at once as your contacts get Slashdotted and fry to a crisp...
Likely it's Latin. Inscriptions of note, since the history of the Latin language, have been in Latin.
Furthermore, the Vs are probably Us.
-Jem
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The parent wasn't supposed to have that subject -- it carried over from a post I made weeks ago with that subject (it was a joke). So I'm not really an arrogant bastard, despite the post subject line.
-Jem
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The girl I dated who lived in the dorms (the old hotel) said that enough students were fed up with the speed and cost of the internet service that they had formed a petition to upgrade the service.
That was 2 years ago though. Maybe it was before your time and things have changed since then. On the other hand, I have no reason to believe you either.
Instead of paying to access the University network and paying to access Napster... why not just BYOA, download LimeWire and be free of the following evils:
DRM
University BOFHs with snoopware
Lawsuits from University-sniffing RIAA investigators
Your roomate and his/her illegal online activities
On the other hand, I never went to University. I know that the U of R is in excess of $30k per year, though, and their student Internet access is a very slow broadband that everyone complains about.
But the rules for publishing and journalism are different. You're presenting conversational rules and they don't apply to published works. When you publish a paper or article that is made to appear as fact, it can and will be treated as fact and you can be held liable for it, especially if it is intended to damage someone or some entity.
Putting your opinions in writing and presenting them as fact is not the same as repeating believed untruths. It's hard to prove malice, though.
He's stating lies as facts with the intent to harm or discredit Free Software. That's not an opinion. An opinion begins with the letter "I" and continues with "Think," "believe," "guess," or "have experienced."
The moon landing is a commonly accepted belief. If you can provide a compelling and somewhat convincing story that seems to disprove it, you run the risk of forcing a weak person's brain into crisis mode. Their beliefs are turned on their head and they become susceptible to suggesion and the retention of new, contrary information. In other words if you really shock someone with apparently valid facts that contradict what they believe, you can reprogram their mind.
It's also commonly called the conversion experience and religious people use it all the time to convert people to their tradition. It's especially popular with Christian evanglelists.
Your friend was converted -- that's why he didn't listen to you. Notice he tried to convert you too; that's the viral side-effect of the conversion experience -- you want others to go through it too.
You starting your own site and posting a message on someone else's site are two totally different things. Posting hate speech on someone else's site constitutes defacement. Hate speech in the form of the GNAA guy's posts incites violence, so yes it is against the law.
It's very hard to find hate "natural" hate speech out there that does not at some point incite violence.
You're absolutely right -- eBay has too many customers and there isn't enough competition. There should be more auction sites that have excellent customer service policies and better fraud protection. Only then will the consumers be served properly.
Credit cards can't receive payments from buyers. That's all that PayPal's really good for. It also allows people who can't otherwise accept credit cards to do so.
But BitPass will do the same thing, as will 2Checkout. And neither of them has a long and glorious history of screwing people like PayPal does.
How exactly do hateful comments do harm to innocent parties?
Hate speech harms society and it seeks to oppress the people or groups that it demeans. See the works of Martin Luther King Jr. for details. Hate speech precedes, incites and leads to violence, even if it is not directly equivalent to it.
Also, the law dictates that if you police the content of your forums in some cases, you have a duty to do it in ALL cases.
What law would that be? Where is this documented? Besides, policing your own forums is part of the job no matter how big they get. If things get that bad and your staff can't handle it, then you start banning people and collect personally verifyable information before allowing someone to register to post. If you're that big that it's out of control, losing some members won't hurt any. There is never an excuse for hosting hate speech.
eBay should collect personally verifyable information just like banks do when you apply for a credit card. They should act as the sole payment provider, collecting payment themselves to eliminate seller fraud, then allowing the buyer to inspect the goods and agree that they are acceptable before payment is received. If the buyer commits fraud by charging back, you can have some kind of contractual agreement to nullify that chargeback or have some method of returning the goods minus a restocking fee. There are many ways to eliminate fraud and be more accountable for the auctions eBay hosts.
It happend to me, though. I sold computers using PayPal. One buyer called up PayPal because the system was damaged during shipping. PayPal told him they could do nothing, so he contacted me and I replaced it immediately for him.
A day later my PayPal account was frozen and all of the money I had in there was stolen by PayPal. That was last fall, and it's still frozen. PayPal will do nothing for me. All because the customer called PayPal first.
Slashdot Mirror
Tough shit -- use Safari.
-Jem
The PHP script above doesn't keep MSIE users from viewing the site, it only redirects them to a page which asks them to use a different browser or view a version of the site with a "lite" style sheet with standards-based yet non-MSIE compatible functions.
It lets people know that MSIE is not standards-based and that there are better alternatives out there. This is precisely what the MSN website does when you try to view one of their news videos -- Windows/IE only, with links to download IE or buy Windows.
-Jem
Oops -- that variable should be ?ie=true instead of ?msie=true.
-Jem
1. Place this at the top of your web pages and make sure they all have the
2. Create a file called msie.php and provide links to www.opera.com and www.mozilla.org and explain why they are seeing this page.
3. Pass the ?msie=true setting to all of your internal links so that the code is bypassed for MSIE users.
4. Use an if statement to direct MSIE users to a different style sheet if you wish to give them a watered-down version of your site.
An example of a site that blocks MSIE.
Have fun.
-Jem
I smell a PayPal astroturfer.
PayPal screwed me out of money. I sold a computer to someone and it was slightly damaged during shipping. Rather than call me about it, the guy called PayPal who told him that they could do nothing about it. So then he called me and we resolved it... I shipped him a new one, he sent the old one back, I got credit for it and in the end I was out the shipping fees and nothing more. Except that PayPal froze my account because the customer called them. That was last fall, and my PayPal account with all of the money I had in there is still frozen to this day.
Now I suppose you're going to accuse me of working for PayPal's competition? I find it more likely that you are a PayPal astroturfer. If you're not, let me buy something from you and I will show you how the wrath of PayPal can ruin your business.
-JemAnd just what the hell will happen if you're giving a speech or performance for 10k people? All looking at you at once as your contacts get Slashdotted and fry to a crisp...
No thanks -- I'll keep my old fashioned contacts.
-JemLikely it's Latin. Inscriptions of note, since the history of the Latin language, have been in Latin.
Furthermore, the Vs are probably Us.
-JemThe parent wasn't supposed to have that subject -- it carried over from a post I made weeks ago with that subject (it was a joke). So I'm not really an arrogant bastard, despite the post subject line.
-JemSuSE 9.1 Personal
SuSE 9.1 Professional for x86 and AMD64
-JemI just realized I was thinking of RIT instead. Sorry -- too much to do and not enough time to think.
The girl I dated who lived in the dorms (the old hotel) said that enough students were fed up with the speed and cost of the internet service that they had formed a petition to upgrade the service.
That was 2 years ago though. Maybe it was before your time and things have changed since then. On the other hand, I have no reason to believe you either.
-JemWell, don't worry. If the theoretical aliens are truly intelligent life, they won't believe in the baby Jesus anyway.
Hopefully they'd have a sense of humor, so we can laugh together at the "God told me to hate YOU" people.
-JemWith all that spyware? Christ almighty.
LimeWire is cross-platform. You can use it on Windows, GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, or OS X.
I shiver to think that someone would believe that a Macintosh "computer" would own me.
-JemInstead of paying to access the University network and paying to access Napster... why not just BYOA, download LimeWire and be free of the following evils:
On the other hand, I never went to University. I know that the U of R is in excess of $30k per year, though, and their student Internet access is a very slow broadband that everyone complains about.
-JemBut the rules for publishing and journalism are different. You're presenting conversational rules and they don't apply to published works. When you publish a paper or article that is made to appear as fact, it can and will be treated as fact and you can be held liable for it, especially if it is intended to damage someone or some entity.
Putting your opinions in writing and presenting them as fact is not the same as repeating believed untruths. It's hard to prove malice, though.
-JemHe's stating lies as facts with the intent to harm or discredit Free Software. That's not an opinion. An opinion begins with the letter "I" and continues with "Think," "believe," "guess," or "have experienced."
-JemDebunking Common GNU/Linux and Free Software Myths
If only the Tocqueville morons had read this first. Maybe then they'd have thought of more original tripe to regurgitate.
Can't someone sue this Ken Brown guy for purposefully misleading the public? This has to be a crime somehow.
-JemThose kids should have been beating up the government officials that made the law, not the cafe workers who are forced to enforce it.
Of course if they're caught they'll probably be shot one way or the other.
-JemAlso, it's mountable from FreeBSD. Reiser, XFS and JFS are not.
This may seem trivial until you have a dual boot system with FreeBSD and GNU/Linux and you want to transfer your /home dir or whatever.
-JemThe moon landing is a commonly accepted belief. If you can provide a compelling and somewhat convincing story that seems to disprove it, you run the risk of forcing a weak person's brain into crisis mode. Their beliefs are turned on their head and they become susceptible to suggesion and the retention of new, contrary information. In other words if you really shock someone with apparently valid facts that contradict what they believe, you can reprogram their mind.
It's also commonly called the conversion experience and religious people use it all the time to convert people to their tradition. It's especially popular with Christian evanglelists.
Your friend was converted -- that's why he didn't listen to you. Notice he tried to convert you too; that's the viral side-effect of the conversion experience -- you want others to go through it too.
-JemYou starting your own site and posting a message on someone else's site are two totally different things. Posting hate speech on someone else's site constitutes defacement. Hate speech in the form of the GNAA guy's posts incites violence, so yes it is against the law.
It's very hard to find hate "natural" hate speech out there that does not at some point incite violence.
-JemYou're absolutely right -- eBay has too many customers and there isn't enough competition. There should be more auction sites that have excellent customer service policies and better fraud protection. Only then will the consumers be served properly.
-JemCredit cards can't receive payments from buyers. That's all that PayPal's really good for. It also allows people who can't otherwise accept credit cards to do so.
But BitPass will do the same thing, as will 2Checkout. And neither of them has a long and glorious history of screwing people like PayPal does.
-JemHow exactly do hateful comments do harm to innocent parties?
Hate speech harms society and it seeks to oppress the people or groups that it demeans. See the works of Martin Luther King Jr. for details. Hate speech precedes, incites and leads to violence, even if it is not directly equivalent to it.
Also, the law dictates that if you police the content of your forums in some cases, you have a duty to do it in ALL cases.
What law would that be? Where is this documented? Besides, policing your own forums is part of the job no matter how big they get. If things get that bad and your staff can't handle it, then you start banning people and collect personally verifyable information before allowing someone to register to post. If you're that big that it's out of control, losing some members won't hurt any. There is never an excuse for hosting hate speech.
eBay should collect personally verifyable information just like banks do when you apply for a credit card. They should act as the sole payment provider, collecting payment themselves to eliminate seller fraud, then allowing the buyer to inspect the goods and agree that they are acceptable before payment is received. If the buyer commits fraud by charging back, you can have some kind of contractual agreement to nullify that chargeback or have some method of returning the goods minus a restocking fee. There are many ways to eliminate fraud and be more accountable for the auctions eBay hosts.
-JemIt happend to me, though. I sold computers using PayPal. One buyer called up PayPal because the system was damaged during shipping. PayPal told him they could do nothing, so he contacted me and I replaced it immediately for him.
A day later my PayPal account was frozen and all of the money I had in there was stolen by PayPal. That was last fall, and it's still frozen. PayPal will do nothing for me. All because the customer called PayPal first.
-Jem