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cottonbuds writes "Researchers at Human Media Lab, Queen's University in Canada presented the ECSGlasses: eye contact sensing glasses that report when people look at their wearer. When eye contact is detected, the glasses stream this information to appliances to inform these about the wearer's engagement. According to HML.Blog the ECSGlasses uses a wearable, wireless Eye-Contact Sensor (1.3MB .jpg) to gauge when the user receives eye-contact from an onlooker. eyeBlog uses this information to record and publish face-2-face conversations without dividing the user's attention between the event being recorded, and the device being used to record it. Moreover, because eyeBlog uses eye-contact to start and stop recording, users do not need to sift through hours of footage to find interesting segments. If you are the academic type you can read the paper (2.2MB .pdf), otherwise the video in .mpg (1:49min, 320x240, 7.5MB), or mp4 (1:49min, 320x240, 4.9MB) should explain everything. Video Mirror: .mp4 .mpg."
no? oh ok then.
I am often able to sense eye contact without any sensors at all. Anyone else?
... can be found in this month's issue of WIRED magazine. There was quite an interesting blogging device that looked like a can. It had a video recorder, audio recorder, and a fold-out screen.
Can we expect this device to be on the market anytime soon?
Im pretty sure if your wearing those glasses everyone will be looking at you...pointing and laughing.
from the article on HP's site:
Your daughter's first smile. Your son's joy the first time he catches a ball. The wink your favorite uncle always gave you, but that he'd never do on camera.
Uhhhh, WHAT?
i was all thinking "yay neat inconspicuous social paranoia spy stuff" before i clicked the 1.3mb photo button.
i was wrong in that assumption, btw.
Very interesting behavior, but social and ethical rules may not be tolerable to such device.
This could be very handy for computer control. For instance your computer might only accept voice commands from you while you are looking straight at it (as opposed to saying something stupid to your friend like "What is the FORM MATerial of the SEA DRIVE?")
And depending on how large the return IR area is, it could also be used to determin where someone is looking at on the screen (with say 3 or 4 IR sensors to triagulate position based on return signal strength).
Then again, the down side is now we geeks NEED to make eyecontact.
I would rather be ashes than dust!
Could we be seeing something similar soon to the eye-scanning of Minority Report? This could definitely be used as an ID-device.
Or what about the advertising potential? If someone looks at a particular type of ad repeatedly, that builds a profile of the person's interests.
And just what the hell will happen if you're giving a speech or performance for 10k people? All looking at you at once as your contacts get Slashdotted and fry to a crisp...
No thanks -- I'll keep my old fashioned contacts.
-JemHow does it determine eye contact? Someone could appear to be looking at you. But in reality, you could easily be in their line of sight. It doesn't necessarily mean they're looking at you, let alone making eye contact.
If someone is staring at you, the glasses take a picture for them so it lasts longer.
Can't wait for these googles to be plugged into my window manager!
How about taking a photo every time you're transfixed on an amazing chest or bottom? That's a blog a lot more people would appreciate :)
Researchers found that the eyeBlog was only 28% effective when used by female wearers, but couldn't reproduce the effect in the lab. After some field trials, however, they discovered and corrected the problem. The new eyeBlog-II for women is 96% accurate and will be completed sometime next month. Rather than attaching the sensors to eyeglasses, the eyeBlog-II will be embedded into a bra.
I have no problem with people wearing eye contact sensing glasses, but if they make eye contact sensing tops for prosperous girls... I'll be having a really bad time.
- "They misunderestimated me."
/me clicks photo link
Neo! It's you!
The LEDs I first thought were gratuitous and unnecessary but after WTFV I know they are IR LEDs that are required for the function of the cam.
Couldn't they at least put them behind some kind of casing so they couldn't be seen? I guess this is only a prototype...
The future's so bright... I gotta wear shades
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Simstim is on they way. If only I could get those Zeiss Ikon eyes implanted! Remember though: Sendai eyes may be cheaper but they have severe problems with depth perception and may cause optic nerve degeneration.
This reminds me of that device (I forget who developed it) which looked like a cycle helmet and had the ability to recognise objects. As with so much technology, I get concerned as to what we're actually trying to achieve here... I'm having a forgetful day, but who was it said man is just trying to make a machine in his own image? Seems increasingly valid...Show me a machine that shocks the wearer every time they perform a ridiculously stupid act, now that would be a step forward.
Here in Holland you can't just take someone's picture and publish it. This toy seems to just that. Maybe i don't want my face on the internet at all.
I wonder what the latency is between when someone hears something interesting, and when they look up at the person who is speaking.
It seems to me that this sort of thing (great as the idea is) should be recording full-time, and then discarding anything that hasn't prompted the wearer's interest with "N" seconds.
There are probably also ways to detect the wearer's interest outside of trying to figure if they are looking at a person. Eyeball behaviour. Head behaviour. Mental activity. Probably the sorts of cluster of patterns that some sort or neural net would do well with once it was trained to recognise them.
It's all a great idea though, and naturally enough one that has seen more mature versions appearing in SF books for decades. Good to see reality moving in this direction too.
what we need is an eyeball implant that will do this same task (w/o wearing those glasses...) and then dowload the info from your brain, or possibly some wireless device in your head, hooked up to your router. i need to download some vids off my brain.
~~par
Or did anyone else feel creeped out by those shiny eyes? I had no idea there were so many Goa'uld walking around? Brr, I may have to wear my trusty Joo Janta 200 super-Chromatic contact lenses undertneath.
Mmm. Does the system provide flood protection in a magic house of mirrors ? Hate to see ones brain explode due to a infinite recursion failure in his or hers glasses.
Actually, I think this is great for people who suffer a physical handicap (eg. paralysed).
Nowadays there are similar systems. A paralysed friend of mine uses a small LED beamer attached to his glasses to use the computer. By moving his head, he moves the red dot on the screen which functions as the cursor. A sensor of some kind interpretes the signal and moves the cursor.
Pretty expensive piece of equipment, though.
Well, instead they could use some of those sensors to track eye movement and position in relation to the computer screen.
Being given the proper use, I think these gizmo's will eventualy find their way on the right market.
If you're wearing this outside the lab, be sure that everyone will avert eye contact with you! Not very practical for real life testing :)
Dave, although you took thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.
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I find that this technology actually makes a lot of sense in a business environment, specially if coupled with some sort of retina light beam scanning technology. I can envision a meeting where businessmen, while negotiating, could access relevant information about the person they were talking to on the fly, including important corporate information.
There are, however, two major showstoppers. One is the matter of privacy. I may not be interested that everyone I gaze at gets an instant picture of me without my authorization, specially because I'm not all that pretty ;). Second, in societies and cultures where eye contact is just not important or is considered as intrusive an menacing, such as in Japan, the system would just not be functional
But still... great for nerds who can't really tell if a woman is giving them the eye... perhaps with a computer telling them so they'll be more confident ;)
of utterly fictitious bollocks of course. Can't be done in any reliable way, and I'll pay your mortgage if you can prove otherwise.
All I need is to marry those specs to one of those webcams that were slightly too sensitive in the infra-red spectrum (they became famous for being able to see through things like blouses ;)), some mini-lcds in the lenses and I'm sorted
Cheap, fun, x-ray specs :)
face-2-face conversations
How do those differ from normal face-to-face conversations?
My first thought on seeing that image was
"I am Lokutas of Borg: Resistance is futile!"
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
...when you wear that thing, everbody looks at you!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
I find this a good example of the typic /. post.
Vacuous, pointless, and stupid.
I heard they made another version of the software that would distinguish the sex of the person and alert the wearer when a female looked at them, useful in "social" situations. However, fields tests were unsuccessful as not a single female looked at the test subject during a 4 hour party.
Read reviews of shopping cart software
In a recent episode of Alias, Sloan wore less conspicuous glasses and had to get eye contact with 5 people so as to collect their retina patterns which they used to access a retina scan security entrance.
A little offtopic, but enough people whinge about badly submitted posts that I thought it would be worth thanking the submitter for clearly outlining the links to large files and videos as well as providing mirrors.
Incidentally, I'm not normally the paranoid type, but video-(b)logging all face to face conversations? Seems a little risky/extreme. For the general public that is, as opposed to whacky cyborg professors.
When eye contact is detected, the glasses stream this information to appliances to inform these about the wearer's engagement.
I read this as "the contact's engagement."
Scanning...
Married
Bodybuilder boyfriend
Engaged
Single - WE HAVE A WINNER!
What about us overly-self conscious, social-degenerate types who haven't made eye contact in the last 16 years?
I really can't see any use for these personally. Neither can you, admit it.
I gonna go out on a limb and say... they made a funny?
Freedom: "I won't!"
And besides, we all know that the only people who would want this are geeks, and the only people who could use this would not be people with friends. *coughMutualy Exclusive?cough*
Well... you must be looking at me. because we are the only ones here and my glasses are beeping.
Much better to have a "floor recognition system" or for those rare occassions, "boob recognition system" if you want to record conversations.
In fact, how about a sensor that picks up the vibrations of your jawbone when you speak to turn on the camera instead of an "eye contact" camera.
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Get it through your heads, people: Numerals are not syllables and connot be substituted for them. "2" is NOT the same thing as "to". "1" cannot be substituted for the "one" in "someone". "4" is NOT the same thing as "for".
If you are going to use these kinds of sloppy, illegible, ugly, non-standard substitutions, just go whole hog. No point in half measures. Example:
Is that what you want? To sound like an illiterate 14 year old girl on AIM? Then understand it now: Numerals and syllables are not interchangable. When you act like they are, you cheapen the quality of life of everyone who accidentally reads your fetid heap of alphanumeric garbage.
I did NOT learn everything I need to know in kindergarten.
The Context Aware Computing group at the MIT Media Lab produced Eye aRe years ago. These devices detect attention paid to another such unit (yes, everyone needs to be equipped with one, which is a difference from the canadian item), and not just staring in the general direction: There is a demo, for instance, wherein the wearer can look at a computer, which prompts it to unpause movie playback. Looking away--without turning of the head, eyes only--repauses the movie (this is insanely hard to demo without sound; you can't really tell if it has paused or not when you're looking away, so you look back at it. oops.). The Eye-Are units are certainly smaller, at the very least. To be fair, they're using different technologies, but the optical advanced-ness of the canadian unit seems wasted on a supid application. The usefulness of having inanimate objects--say, appliances--know where you're looking, when, and how (the Eye aRe detects blinking, an increase of which can signal any number of things) seems to dwarf that of some hyper-blogging solution. Both devices, of course, offer a sort of unconscious appliance-control possiblilties, but one is much smaller, and cheaper to manufacture (namely, the Eye aRe).
So can this thing also be set to record when one's eyes come in contact with someone else's shoes, or the floor?
now, if they adapt this technology to womens bra's and underware.
then no more free looks?
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This is funny ... somebody obviously didn't get it. Also, it's on topic, which somebody also didn't get.
hey, can you program this thing to record on viewing ~other~ body parts?
Does it have software to filter out small mammals with the uncanny ability to stare down a mirror? Have they tried it the presence of cats?
My first thought, by the way, was for it to detect when people were averting their gaze. "He's lying", the eyePhone whispered into my ear, "he's only making eye contact for 20% of his statements".
Have it measure pupil dilation and a few other things and you'll have a heck of a Date Meter. Things were looking up, until my eyePhone's warning buzzer went off. "Pupil dilation reduces 5% every time he makes eye contact, and increases 30% when he looks over your left shoulder." I glanced back to see who my competition was...
Damn, people say I'm the academic type, that must be why I can't see the video.
The typical socially awkward geek doesn't MAKE eye contact, so how would this work then?
The other half of this project is eyeglasses that make eye contact with other people in the room. So we can go through life staring at the floor in social situations...
Fiat Lux.
For women, how about a Cleavage Eye Contact Sensor. It would look like a necklace and snap a picture of everyone who makes eye contact with it. I guess it would basically snap a picture of every man that walked by.
Thanks for reminding me to avoid that show. Yecch.
I accidentally tuned in once for a minute, and the heroes were chasing someone in a parking garage. She says, "Take the F-150!" They steal this Ford F-150, chase the bad guy through the garage, and he gets away. (Stupid choice for a chase vehicle in an enclosed space.)
Cut to commercial for what? The Ford F-150.
I had to go take a shower. Not only a TERRIBLE show, but on the forefront of all marketing placement, all the time.
Like many of you, I often neglect to make direct eye contact. An interview coach once gave me this tip: look at the bridge of the other person's nose. It looks to them like you are making direct eye contact, but you don't feel like you are staring right into their eyes. Now, how well does this system handle near-eye contact (for lack of a better term)?
So, if the wearer of these has eye contact made by someone else wearing these, neither would work, because if the dark sunglasses?
They actually prevent each other from working?
I find that a lot of people do not maintain eye contact during a conversation - particularly in a situation with many people around. First of all, there are those who will make eye contact as they say hello, but from then on their eyes are scanning the crowd for people they haven't greeted. Secondly, those who are shy or uncomfortable tend to meet eyes rarely and look down more than at the person they are speaking to. Finally, some people just don't seem to be able to hold eye contact -- it is threatening, or some such thing -- and might glance once or twice in your direction while talking. Seems like an awful lot of conversations to lose. (OTOH, great-aunt Josephine is fully willing to maintain eye contact - and physical contact - while she tells you all about her physical ailments. Ack!)
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The thing is, men make eye contact to initiate a conversation, but usually do NOT maintain eye contact throughout the conversation. It's a well known ethological fact that men look away often during conversations, sometime conducting entire face to face conversations without almost no eye contact. It's a primal aggression thing: looking away signals submission, trust, or goodwill, while holding gaze is a challenge. The same does not generally hold true for women, or men talking to women. Eye contact is held much more consistently.
Notice next time you're talking to a male colleague. Feel the discomfort if you try to prolong eye contact. Then compare when talking to a woman.
Oh, wait. This is Slashdot....
and i find what you said to be a good example of the typical 'asshole' post. assholish, rude and completely POINTLESS .
~~par
Both people having a conversation are wearing those goggles? How can they determine eye contact then?
eyeBlog uss ths in4m8ion 2 rec0rd n puhblihs face-2-face convers8ions w/o dvdng teh usrs attntion be2ween teh event bng rec0rded, n teh devIce bng usd 2 rec0rd it.
So *you're* the one that's been filling my inbox with spam.
Who _wouldn't_ look at you while wearing a ridiculous get-up like that on your face?
...will wearers of these glasses, with center-mounted camera, start to contract Optigrab syndrome?
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This is only mildly related, but some years ago I heard about a device which sits in your shoe, generates tiny amounts of electricity via piezo-electrics, and when you shake someone's hand (who is wearing a similar device), the settling of the potential difference between you and that person is used to exchange a few bytes of data - in effect, a business card through a handshake. I haven't heard anything of is since.
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This is gonna suck for us with nystagmus.
Ah well, perhaps in my next life. =)
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Our brainwaves are different while we pay attention. Just google the new Attention Deficit Dissorder (AD[H]D) treatments, where the user can visualize their brain waves and learns to enter into an attentive state.
Make the machine small enough and you can record all the relevant moments in your live without effort.
until i saw the video. Interesting concept in how it works, but I guess any two eyeBloggers can't talk to each other and expect it to work or talk to anybody wearing sunglasses either. Not to mention people talking when they aren't making eye contact. I'm surprised they aren't recording always (a la Steve Mann and his Wearable Computer camera) and associate the eye contact with a pitch of a persons voice to tag potential conversation that occured pre- or post-eye contact; if that's possible of course. I saw the "attentive TV"... I guess its great theoretically, but what about people who are afraid of things on tv and close their eyes to avoid it? I'm sure those who fear snakes would be most displeased to have an image of a snake paused when they close their eyes!
Simpsons episode that was on today was Homer as a juror in the "chowder" incident. I wonder if his glasses with drawn on eyes would fool this computation.
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Heheh, well, the only people I can imagine needing these are drug dealers. They could go through after each day of dealin' and run a check of similarities from a pic database looking for patterns.