> Only weak minded individuals grasp at beliefs for which they have no logical basis.
Emotions have no logical basis, yet I still believe in them. Belief has nothing to do with weak-mindedness (allthough there is a tendancy for them to go hand-in-hand for some reason.)
> At heart, all religions argue most effectively towards the existence of *some* sort of "supernatural" force in the universe,
You mean TRY to prove. You can't PROVE supernatural existance, unfortunately. (Of course you can't disprove it.) Hence the mess religion is in today.
> all religions usually have nothing to support their version over another.
*ahem*
The Golden Rule "Treat others as you would have them treat you" is nothing ? I don't know about you, but ANY religion that guides a person to make the world a better place, by treating others with RESPECT, COMPASSION, and UNDERSTANDING, can't be all that bad. Methinks you need to take another in-depth look at just exactly what religion is preaching. There are SOME that are "worthwhile"
> don't forget that a certian level of liability insurance is required by law to legally drive in the US.
Not true.
We ALREADY have the RIGHT to travel. Why do people keep going to the government (who is supposed to SERVE US) and ask permission for rights they already have?!
> Since the 16th Amendment allows federal income taxes, you gotta pay
ONLY if you are a U.S. citizen
Read this:
Bill of Rights
14th Amendment
Sect. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
And here is the simple solution:
1. Expatriate (revoke your U.S citizen, and become an uSA sovereign aka resident of the state (yes, SMALL 'u'.) If you don't know what an uSA sovereign is, read the Declaration of Independence. As an American you can still enter/leave the uSA.)
2. Revoke your slave identification number. (There is NO law that REQUIRES a person to have a SSN!!) I can plan my retirement planning, FAR better then ANY government can, Thank-you-very- much.
It's that simple and you're legally external to the internal revunue system.
My sovereign teacher has been left alone for over 20 years. He has built himself quite the nest egg with 100% take home pay. Another one of his students hasn't paid any income tax for the past 10 years. It IS possible to regain our freedom and live truely free.
Remember:
"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." Thomas Jefferson
> It would be interesting to see citizens claiming their rights for independence and sovereignty.
Jural societies ARE one form of this already.
Sovereigns TODAY are telling the government(s) to take a hike. Some of us DO take home 100% of our paycheck. (My TIME is MINE, not the government's to leech off.)
Interesting that one of the founding fathers hit the nail right ont the head:
Thomas Jefferson, warned,
"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
--
"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, 1759
> How can we wake up the public to see that our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms are being stolen right from under our nose?
You can't wake everyone up.
Because "people are WILLING to give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety." (Didn't one of the founding fathers WARN about this?!)
The Constitution has, unfortunately, become just another piece of paper.
Everytime we turn around, we need "permission" (aka licenses) to do anything, and we're the ones that let the crooks, er government get away with demanding permission from us, even though WE ORIGINALLY have the right! What ever power we DON'T give, we RETAIN. But somehow congress has twisted that into meaning, people don't have ANY rights, and must ask them for permission! The NERVE! And we let them get away with this crap!
The best we can do, is get people to READ this book to see documented cases of just how tyrannical the U.S. has become. (Yes, it really is called: The Rape of the American Consistution) It starts off with a discussion on the BACKGROUND on "Colonial crisis with Great Britain, the Articles of Confederation, the Constitutional Convention, and the Bill of Rights."
Here's one quote: Alexander Hamilton,
"I affirm that bills of rights are not only unecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain exceptions to powers which are not granted; and on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more then were granted. For why declare the things shall not be done which there is no power to do?... I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power.
Unfortunately, its going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better. One World government is being rammed down people's throats even if they don't want it. e.g. Social Security is already established in most countries, but governments fail to mention that you can legally "opt-out".
Game support is good, as long as you don't have a SB Live on a SMP system. The bastards at Creative won't release working smp drivers until late Oct. (SMP didn't work on NT4 either at first, but they did a quick hack to get it to work, which doesn't work uner NT5.)
Other then that, Win2K is stable. Quake 3 in SMP, mmmmm.
I was running NT4 w/ SP6 on a Cel366 O/C 550, with 128 megs of ram. It was nice and snappy.
Win2K is not any faster. At times it "stalls" for a good 2 second, when you click on menu. My work computer does the same thing. It is just not responsive at times.
I would love to go back to NT4 but stupid M$ won't release DX > 3 support for it.
Win2k is more stable. I was getting about 1 crash a month with NT4 (hardware problem I think), but Win2K has only crashed twice in the last 6 months.
They definately are "easier" to install, allthough after being spoiled by Be OS, I'm rather tempted to ditch both Windows and Linux for desktops.
> use NIV for those who are unfamiliar with many biblical doctrines.
Ok, that makes sense. Just wanted to let you know that you have to be carefull with the NIV, but I see that you are.
> I use NKJV most of the time.
When I'm studying the New Testament, I prefer this great study aid: The Precise Parallel New Testament It has 8 translation all beside one another (4 on the odd page, 4 on the even page), so it is very easy to see the different wording. Highly recommended.
> I see now that you do not fall into that category.
Thank-you;-)
> Tell me, how does the Interlinear Bible differ in its translation methods?
Plural, not singular grammer;-):-) (Even 2 emoticons so you know I'm trying to be helpful.)
An Inter-linear bible is a bible in another language with an English translation. Usually they are inter-twined. i.e. A Greek-English interlinear bible would have the English translated word(s) below each Greek word.
If you're serious about exegeses, a good place to start is to get Strong's Concordance mainly because Strong has numbered every word, so you can see how a word was translated. Most good interlinears will have Strong's number above every word (only for non-English words obviously;-)
As to how the Interlinear bibles differs on their translations, it is really up the individual author. Unfortunately, all KJV (and newer translations) of the New Testament have some pretty bad translations ("ordinances"#2937 in 2 Pet 2:13 comes to mind in), and hence any interlinear is valuable and better then none at all. (I'm still looking into older bibles such as the Geneva Bible, and the Wycliffe bible, because of translation issues.)
P.S. And yes, the "literal" Genesis was a low blow, but I can't stand people who claim something without sufficient proof. i.e. the theory Earth = 6000 years old. No flames meant.:-)
--
"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, 1759
1. Yes, Genesis is to be read allegorically. That is the hard part about exegeses. Learning what to read literally, and allegorically.
Scroll down to "The Bible Refutes Creationism" to see the problems if Genesis is to be read literally. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/def ense_of_evolution.html
2. The re-creation theory has been around for a while. I thought it was pretty strange argument at first, but it fits the data (Namely the earth is a few billion years old, Genesis has NO mention of ANY dinosaurs, the fight between Michael and Satan with Satan being cast down to earth, etc) and language supports that theory (buy a Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible.)
Genesis describes the RECREATION of the earth, and hence the 6,000 years is completely false. (6,000 isn't even mentioned anywhere, so why do Christians ASSUME that number.)
Heck the earth is a few million years old. Geologists actually have a number of different proofs for the age of the earth. You might want to take a course. Very interesting stuff.
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> Only weak minded individuals grasp at beliefs for which they have no logical basis.
Emotions have no logical basis, yet I still believe in them. Belief has nothing to do with weak-mindedness (allthough there is a tendancy for them to go hand-in-hand for some reason.)
> At heart, all religions argue most effectively towards the existence of *some* sort of "supernatural" force in the universe,
You mean TRY to prove. You can't PROVE supernatural existance, unfortunately. (Of course you can't disprove it.) Hence the mess religion is in today.
> all religions usually have nothing to support their version over another.
*ahem*
The Golden Rule "Treat others as you would have them treat you" is nothing ? I don't know about you, but ANY religion that guides a person to make the world a better place, by treating others with RESPECT, COMPASSION, and UNDERSTANDING, can't be all that bad. Methinks you need to take another in-depth look at just exactly what religion is preaching. There are SOME that are "worthwhile"
Cheers
> don't forget that a certian level of liability insurance is required by law to legally drive in the US.
Not true.
We ALREADY have the RIGHT to travel. Why do people keep going to the government (who is supposed to SERVE US) and ask permission for rights they already have?!
Please read before replying:
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
Cheers
> Since the 16th Amendment allows federal income taxes, you gotta pay
ONLY if you are a U.S. citizen
Read this:
Bill of Rights
14th Amendment
Sect. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
And here is the simple solution:
1. Expatriate (revoke your U.S citizen, and become an uSA sovereign aka resident of the state (yes, SMALL 'u'.) If you don't know what an uSA sovereign is, read the Declaration of Independence. As an American you can still enter/leave the uSA.)
2. Revoke your slave identification number. (There is NO law that REQUIRES a person to have a SSN!!) I can plan my retirement planning, FAR better then ANY government can, Thank-you-very- much.
It's that simple and you're legally external to the internal revunue system.
See this book for more info:
It's None of Your Business, A Complete Guide to Protecting Your Privacy, Identity, and Assets by Larry Sontag
My sovereign teacher has been left alone for over 20 years. He has built himself quite the nest egg with 100% take home pay. Another one of his students hasn't paid any income tax for the past 10 years. It IS possible to regain our freedom and live truely free.
Remember:
"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." Thomas Jefferson
> You want to opt out of Social Security, oh I'm sorry your Sovereignness doesn't extend that far.
Actually it does. There is NO LAW that requires a person to have a social security number. You CAN live, work, WITHOUT being numbered.
> Part of the point of the book is that this information will be harder and harder for governments to get.
;-)
No flames, but it sounds like you are re-hashing this info: It's None of Your Business, A Complete Guide to Protecting Your Privacy, Identity, and Assets by Larry Sontag
.
Besides, it is NONE of the governments DAMN business how much money I make (or don't make.)
Jural societies ARE one form of this already.
Sovereigns TODAY are telling the government(s) to take a hike. Some of us DO take home 100% of our paycheck. (My TIME is MINE, not the government's to leech off.)
Interesting that one of the founding fathers hit the nail right ont the head:
Thomas Jefferson, warned,
--
"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, 1759
You can't wake everyone up.
Because "people are WILLING to give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety." (Didn't one of the founding fathers WARN about this?!)
The Constitution has, unfortunately, become just another piece of paper.
Everytime we turn around, we need "permission" (aka licenses) to do anything, and we're the ones that let the crooks, er government get away with demanding permission from us, even though WE ORIGINALLY have the right! What ever power we DON'T give, we RETAIN. But somehow congress has twisted that into meaning, people don't have ANY rights, and must ask them for permission! The NERVE! And we let them get away with this crap!
The best we can do, is get people to READ this book to see documented cases of just how tyrannical the U.S. has become. (Yes, it really is called: The Rape of the American Consistution) It starts off with a discussion on the BACKGROUND on "Colonial crisis with Great Britain, the Articles of Confederation, the Constitutional Convention, and the Bill of Rights."
Here's one quote: Alexander Hamilton,
Unfortunately, its going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better. One World government is being rammed down people's throats even if they don't want it. e.g. Social Security is already established in most countries, but governments fail to mention that you can legally "opt-out".
Another great book is It's None of Your Business, A Complete Guide to Protecting Your Privacy, Identity, and Assets by Larry Sontag.
Once people are aware of the problem, THEN they can start working on a solution. Like maybe a return to Common Law, Lawfull money, and Trial by Jury.
--
"The only people I can't tolerate are the intolerant bastards that try to tell me how to live my life..." - (ZanThrax?)
> No apps.....
:-)
Obvious Be doesn't have near the number of apps that Linux has, but please don't spread FUD and say Be has no apps.
You did check Be Bits,, before posting, right?
> My 2.5 yr old laptop running linux took less time to boot up and log in than the local uni's brand new win 2000 machines took just to log in!
And Be OS boots to the gui in 3 seconds.
Everything else feels "dog slow" compared to it.
> enough to give Quake 3 a 200MB hunk
What setting was that?
> have not checked out the game support yet.
Game support is good, as long as you don't have a SB Live on a SMP system. The bastards at Creative won't release working smp drivers until late Oct. (SMP didn't work on NT4 either at first, but they did a quick hack to get it to work, which doesn't work uner NT5.)
Other then that, Win2K is stable. Quake 3 in SMP, mmmmm.
> Waiting for something better...
Be OS
I was running NT4 w/ SP6 on a Cel366 O/C 550, with 128 megs of ram. It was nice and snappy.
Win2K is not any faster. At times it "stalls" for a good 2 second, when you click on menu. My work computer does the same thing. It is just not responsive at times.
I would love to go back to NT4 but stupid M$ won't release DX > 3 support for it.
Win2k is more stable. I was getting about 1 crash a month with NT4 (hardware problem I think), but Win2K has only crashed twice in the last 6 months.
They definately are "easier" to install, allthough after being spoiled by Be OS, I'm rather tempted to ditch both Windows and Linux for desktops.
> Um, doesn't this just eliminiate all philosophical reasons for Gnome?
.... ;-)
Yeap.
Now, of course the debate over techinical reasons
> Actually, IIRC BeOS's kernel itself isn't written in C++ either.
That is correct. Only the GUI uses C++.
> No GUI currently comes close to the elegance of the Mac GUI in terms of how you can use it.
You haven't tried BeOS yet, have you?
BeOS just blows MacOS completely right out of the water.
> use NIV for those who are unfamiliar with many biblical doctrines.
;-)
;-) :-) (Even 2 emoticons so you know I'm trying to be helpful.)
;-)
:-)
Ok, that makes sense. Just wanted to let you know that you have to be carefull with the NIV, but I see that you are.
> I use NKJV most of the time.
When I'm studying the New Testament, I prefer this great study aid: The Precise Parallel New Testament
It has 8 translation all beside one another (4 on the odd page, 4 on the even page), so it is very easy to see the different wording. Highly recommended.
> I see now that you do not fall into that category.
Thank-you
> Tell me, how does the Interlinear Bible differ in its translation methods?
Plural, not singular grammer
An Inter-linear bible is a bible in another language with an English translation. Usually they are inter-twined. i.e. A Greek-English interlinear bible would have the English translated word(s) below each Greek word.
If you're serious about exegeses, a good place to start is to get Strong's Concordance mainly because Strong has numbered every word, so you can see how a word was translated. Most good interlinears will have Strong's number above every word (only for non-English words obviously
As to how the Interlinear bibles differs on their translations, it is really up the individual author. Unfortunately, all KJV (and newer translations) of the New Testament have some pretty bad translations ("ordinances"#2937 in 2 Pet 2:13 comes to mind in), and hence any interlinear is valuable and better then none at all. (I'm still looking into older bibles such as the Geneva Bible, and the Wycliffe bible, because of translation issues.)
If you can only get one interlinear, you might like this one: The Interlinear Bible (Hebrew-Greek- English by Jay P. Green, Sr due to its full size pages (allthough the font is just a hair too small.)
Hope this helps you to study the word of Christ.
P.S. And yes, the "literal" Genesis was a low blow, but I can't stand people who claim something without sufficient proof. i.e. the theory Earth = 6000 years old. No flames meant.
--
"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, 1759
WHY are you using one of the worst translations?!
Take this test with ONLY the NIV bible, and you'll see what I mean: http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/nivquiz.htm
The NIV omits WHOLE verses !! You can see which ones here: Which bible verses did the NIV delete. And, NIV: Simply a Bad Translation! Also, http://www3.pei.sympat ico.ca/reese.currie/topics/compare.htm
> one should either take a literal interpretation of Genesis
Oh really? What does Gen 2:17 say?
Now since Adam did not literally die in the 24 hours that he ate the forbidden fruit, that means, that one must NOT take a literal interpretation.
Do yourself a favor, buy a Interlinear Bible, and READ IT. You'll be amazed at how many words are just plain translated badly.
The "public" ... since single ownership of ideas is pretty stupid to begin with.
Someone moderate this up.
It's allmost scary just how BIG Time Warner is.
1. Yes, Genesis is to be read allegorically. That is the hard part about exegeses. Learning what to read literally, and allegorically. //www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/def ense_of_evolution.html
. nz/recreation.html
Scroll down to "The Bible Refutes Creationism" to see the problems if Genesis is to be read literally.
http:
2. The re-creation theory has been around for a while. I thought it was pretty strange argument at first, but it fits the data (Namely the earth is a few billion years old, Genesis has NO mention of ANY dinosaurs, the fight between Michael and Satan with Satan being cast down to earth, etc) and language supports that theory (buy a Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible.)
http:// www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.olivebranch.org
Genesis describes the RECREATION of the earth, and hence the 6,000 years is completely false. (6,000 isn't even mentioned anywhere, so why do Christians ASSUME that number.)
Heck the earth is a few million years old. Geologists actually have a number of different proofs for the age of the earth. You might want to take a course. Very interesting stuff.
> The posit: the universe (and all physical actions) are slowing down over time.
:)
Afraid not.
The universe is EXPANDING and ACCELERATING.
Scientists knew about the first for a while, but it was just recently (like a few years) that they found out the 2nd truth.
See, it pays to watch the discovery channel. Useless little bits of trivia
Throw-out my SuperMicro case, yeah right.
Someone moderate this up.
It's nice to see SOMEONE understand contract law around here.