You're conflating "push" and "pull" mentality of advertising.
Friend does a direct "pull":
a) is shopping and sees it b) does a search for reviews, i.e. Consumer Reports, AnandTech / Linus Tech Tips, Motley Fool, etc., and sees brand/model was the best rated, etc.
As opposed to an indirect "push":
c) is watching TV and ads are shoved in his face d) is reading online and ads are shoved in his face e) is playing a mobile game and pop ads block his screen for 10 seconds f) is watching YouTube and is forced to watch 30 second ads
Pull advertising is respectful of the customer. In contradistinction Push advertising is obnoxious.
> Because without advertising, no company is allowed to talk about their product at all.
First, and nothing of value was lost.
Second, sure they are -- on their website. I don't want to see their shit on TV, in Books / Magazines, Games, etc., unless I "pull" it.
Roadworks found eight wire ends protruding from a pipe in London. In Glasgow they discovered the other ends of the eight wires. Two foremen Smith and Campbell met to discuss how to match up the two sets of ends.
Back in London, Smith took a battery and connected pre-arranged numbers of ends to the positive terminal, the negative terminal, and left at least one wire free.
In Glasgow, Campbell labelled his ends A to H, then with a bulb tested each pair of wires that could be formed from the eight, for a circuit. Knowing the pre-arranged numbers Campbell could identify wires in each group.
The idea now was for Smith to disconnect the barrery, and Campbell to join six of his ends into 3 pairs, then tell Smith which ends he'd joined and which wires were in each group. Smith could then test all pairs of his ends using his battery and bulb, and thereby correctly identify his wire ends.
> But saying that ads are somehow inherently immoral just makes you sound crazy.
I was making a point. If one side is going to be stupid enough to try to use the excuse that ad-blocking is immoral, then there is no reason the other side can't be just as dumb and say ads are immoral.
> Without advertising, we'd all still be living in caves.
[[Citation]]
> Can you imagine how long it would take to build any kind of economy if the only way anything could ever be sold was by word of mouth?
And nothing of value was lost.
The *best* kind of advertising is word-of-mouth (assuming people aren't being paid to be shills.) When my friends tell me about X, you can damn well bet I'm going to listen to the pros & cons. When some ad comes on TV I either mute / fast-forward, and make a mental note to never but their crap they are hawking.
Advertising is a leech upon society. It is time we stop putting up with crap that invades our lives every chance it gets.
As is this one: * An Adventurer's Guide to Number Theory [amazon.com]
A mostly dry theoretical book but has a few pics here and there. Depending on how serious & inquisitive he is, it may provide enough material to pique his curiosity / interest in Mathematics for ages. * Where Mathematics Comes From
Hope this gives you some ideas!
-- Addition is a matter of perspective: 1+1=2 (Mathematics) 1+1=1 (Marriage) 1+1+1=1 (Meta-Physics)
> I am sure that morally and ethically ad blocking is wrong. > I am not sure that you are legally free to block ads.
So closing your eyes, turning your head, going to the bathroom (or some other room), pressing the mute button, OR using software that effectively does the same thing -- so you not watching the ads -- is now a moral / ethics issue???
Are you REALLY *that* fucking stupid???
Repeat after me: It is not my problem to support your broken business model.
When are we going to have a sudden outbreak of common sense ???
> and I do not agree with the notion that we are entitled to content without paying them,
So let's discriminate against the poor instead./sarcasm Great strategy for sharing knowledge!
Repeat after me, It is not my problem to support your broken business model.
It is not about entitlement, it is about the right to view, or not view. Are you one of those people that feel unethical when you got to the bathroom / kitchen / fridge / etc. when an ad appears? Using software (or hardware) to control what appears on *my* computer is no different.
The cable company is doing the same type of shenanigans with dynamic ad insertion for video assets.
When is enough enough and we take back the right to view content, on *our* terms, on *our* devices.
Have you even *played* glQuake ?? Because you keep using this word "sucked" -- it doesn't mean what you think it means.
*At the time*, OpenGL was WAY easier to **developers** as Carmack pointed out in his plan how much *Direct3D sucked*. Why do you think Windows NT _supported_ OpenGL in the _first_ place??
I know because I was one of the many game developers who signed the original petition to Microsoft to support OpenGL *at the time* instead of that shit-fest Direct3D. The fact that Microsoft's politics over internal conflicting goals, crappy driver/kernel support such as the ICD (installable client driver), Microsoft being two-faced and hypocritical with the Fahrenheit (API) didn't exactly help.
Was OpenGL perfect? Of course not. But Direct3D with its cap bits, and other stupidity, made OpenGL pure joy to code for.
The rest of DirectX solved a real problem. Direct3D just re-invented, poorly, an existing wheel.
And in typical fashion, MS never gets anything right until the 3rd version.
We already have this shenanigans with early 8-bit software lost to the annuls of time because of some bullshit copyright that we're not allowed to preserve for fear that someday, somewhere, some company will want to try to "leverage" archaic Imaginary Property.
As someone who has both AMD and Intel chips -- AMD Phenon II 965BE @ 3.5 GHz (and soon an FX-8350), and Intel i7 4770K @ 4.0G Hz, couldn't have said it better myself !
Slashdot Mirror
No kidding! WTF is with all the biz-speak ?!
Twitter is freaking gloried half-baked "Instant Messenger" (IM).
Reminds me of Office Space:
WTF is PC Load Letter?
You're conflating "push" and "pull" mentality of advertising.
Friend does a direct "pull":
a) is shopping and sees it
b) does a search for reviews, i.e. Consumer Reports, AnandTech / Linus Tech Tips, Motley Fool, etc., and sees brand/model was the best rated, etc.
As opposed to an indirect "push":
c) is watching TV and ads are shoved in his face
d) is reading online and ads are shoved in his face
e) is playing a mobile game and pop ads block his screen for 10 seconds
f) is watching YouTube and is forced to watch 30 second ads
Pull advertising is respectful of the customer. In contradistinction Push advertising is obnoxious.
> Because without advertising, no company is allowed to talk about their product at all.
First, and nothing of value was lost.
Second, sure they are -- on their website. I don't want to see their shit on TV, in Books / Magazines, Games, etc., unless I "pull" it.
Book: Puzzles for Pleasure
Chapter: "Wire Wizards", page 73
* https://books.google.com/books...
> But saying that ads are somehow inherently immoral just makes you sound crazy.
I was making a point. If one side is going to be stupid enough to try to use the excuse that ad-blocking is immoral, then there is no reason the other side can't be just as dumb and say ads are immoral.
> Without advertising, we'd all still be living in caves.
[[Citation]]
> Can you imagine how long it would take to build any kind of economy if the only way anything could ever be sold was by word of mouth?
And nothing of value was lost.
The *best* kind of advertising is word-of-mouth (assuming people aren't being paid to be shills.) When my friends tell me about X, you can damn well bet I'm going to listen to the pros & cons. When some ad comes on TV I either mute / fast-forward, and make a mental note to never but their crap they are hawking.
Advertising is a leech upon society. It is time we stop putting up with crap that invades our lives every chance it gets.
Agreed, as I posted here ...
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I don't have any recommendations for the 10 year old, but in a few years I'd recommend these around ages ~12-18, give or take a few.
This is a great math/philosophy book disguised as a comic book.
* Logicomix: An epic search for truth
This is a fun computer science, math, philosophy, linguistics book: /. can't even display an umlaut o)
* Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid (stupid
As is this one:
* An Adventurer's Guide to Number Theory [amazon.com]
A mostly dry theoretical book but has a few pics here and there. Depending on how serious & inquisitive he is, it may provide enough material to pique his curiosity / interest in Mathematics for ages.
* Where Mathematics Comes From
Hope this gives you some ideas!
--
Addition is a matter of perspective:
1+1=2 (Mathematics)
1+1=1 (Marriage)
1+1+1=1 (Meta-Physics)
> I am sure that morally and ethically ad blocking is wrong.
> I am not sure that you are legally free to block ads.
So closing your eyes, turning your head, going to the bathroom (or some other room), pressing the mute button, OR using software that effectively does the same thing -- so you not watching the ads -- is now a moral / ethics issue???
Are you REALLY *that* fucking stupid???
Repeat after me: It is not my problem to support your broken business model.
When are we going to have a sudden outbreak of common sense ???
Maybe we could start with:
Ads are immoral. Ban the fuckers.
> So get a restraining order for their salesmen
Interesting idea -- how hard is that to get? It can't be _that_ easy, right? Don't you need to provide a "valid" reason?
Simple answer:
Greed destroys common sense (along with respect and fairness.)
I *never* said let's REwrite ALL our software. *That* would be stupid.
Can any of the C derivates be used for writing software? Sure, any bad language can be.
I was just pointing out the dumb re-designs.
So after "5. Eliminate False Positives", and "7. Examine Witness Documentation" how many **true positives** _still_ remain?
Because the Disclose project calls bullshit:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
--
~2022 Proof that we're not alone
We need to update Murphy's Laws for the new millennium:
* "Those that don't understand C are condemned to re-invent it, poorly."
Almost applies to every C derivative: C++, Rust, Obj-C, etc. /me ducks :-)
With apologies to Henry Spencer's "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly."
Indeed. Why don't we just call it what it really is ...
IoT
Internet of Trash
D.U.M.B.
Devices Unsecured Mostly Broken.
I.D.I.O.T.S.
Insecure Devices Internetworked Offering Trouble
No, famous for designing and implementing JavaShit in 10 days. (How many noob language mistakes can one make??)
1. Find a better teammate then. Tossing the baby out with the bathwater just because it didn't work for you is irrational.
2. When both of you are "in mental sync" it works great ! When not, it is a waste of time, for both of you. :-/
3. Did you forget Brook's Law? There is no silver bullet Why? Because it depends on _context_.
I concur. I can only dream of a world where ads are banned. /oblg. and nothing of value was lost :-)
Instead, we ended up with this crappy state of affairs (Futurama - Internet Ads)
> and I do not agree with the notion that we are entitled to content without paying them,
So let's discriminate against the poor instead. /sarcasm Great strategy for sharing knowledge!
Repeat after me, It is not my problem to support your broken business model.
It is not about entitlement, it is about the right to view, or not view. Are you one of those people that feel unethical when you got to the bathroom / kitchen / fridge / etc. when an ad appears? Using software (or hardware) to control what appears on *my* computer is no different.
The cable company is doing the same type of shenanigans with dynamic ad insertion for video assets.
When is enough enough and we take back the right to view content, on *our* terms, on *our* devices.
Have you even *played* glQuake ?? Because you keep using this word "sucked" -- it doesn't mean what you think it means.
*At the time*, OpenGL was WAY easier to **developers** as Carmack pointed out in his plan how much *Direct3D sucked*. Why do you think Windows NT _supported_ OpenGL in the _first_ place??
I know because I was one of the many game developers who signed the original petition to Microsoft to support OpenGL *at the time* instead of that shit-fest Direct3D. The fact that Microsoft's politics over internal conflicting goals, crappy driver/kernel support such as the ICD (installable client driver), Microsoft being two-faced and hypocritical with the Fahrenheit (API) didn't exactly help.
Was OpenGL perfect? Of course not. But Direct3D with its cap bits, and other stupidity, made OpenGL pure joy to code for.
The rest of DirectX solved a real problem. Direct3D just re-invented, poorly, an existing wheel.
And in typical fashion, MS never gets anything right until the 3rd version.
Eagerly awaiting for your rants about /. on:
* Apple/Microsoft Monday :-)
* BitCoin Tuesday
* Linux Friday
Do you even understand the phrase NIH at all ??
> Not Invented Here (NIH) is the philosophical principle of not using third party solutions to a problem because of their external origins.
The third-party OpenGL *already* existed and they refused to use *that*.
They *invented* DirectX by buying a company and bringing it in house.
> Microsoft bought out a 3D game engine developer, pulled out the lower layers and created DirectX.
That was due to Microsoft's NIH syndrome; they bought RenderMorphics in February 1995 and transformed their shitty Reality Lab API into DirectX.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
> For *every* other drug out there, in the US, we have this thing called "USDA clinical trials" where the drug is rigorously tested
And we did that for alcohol, right?
Oh wait, we didn't.
Gee, what's the LD50 for cannabis again?
... greed destroys history.
We already have this shenanigans with early 8-bit software lost to the annuls of time because of some bullshit copyright that we're not allowed to preserve for fear that someday, somewhere, some company will want to try to "leverage" archaic Imaginary Property.
As someone who has both AMD and Intel chips -- AMD Phenon II 965BE @ 3.5 GHz (and soon an FX-8350), and Intel i7 4770K @ 4.0G Hz, couldn't have said it better myself !
Why isn't there room in the market for both?
Exactly. Fuck you Forbes.
Oh, it's "StartsWithAShit" -- and nothing of value was lost.
> never made it into the 3-minute "news" cycle that most of the news outlets in the US lie about
FTFY, as in lie by facts or omission.
3 minutes? Ha! More like 10 second sound-bite.